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Randall
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posted July 08, 2012 09:43 AM
  
Belief in the inevitability of something (poverty or bad health, for instance) ensures it.------------------
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T
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posted July 08, 2012 08:16 PM
Mak & emitres, good points.Personally, I just don't think that is what life is about. Now...that being said...maybe for you both, that IS what life is about - or what some of your life is about, an important part of it anyway. And that's great. What do I know? Who am i to say youre wrong? I wouldnt. For you, it's what makes sense. I thought similarly for awhile, but have long since changed my mind. But that is my path and my beliefs are what feels right to me.  I just don't want to be chained to this bag of bones longer than I have to. Earth school, has been a school of hard knocks this time around and I do feel I will need a break from it at some point in the not so distant future. lol I think we can "learn HARD" here, but our faculties are limited and with the stresses of just surviving.....there's only so much we can do to accelerate our growth in one lifetime. It's very dense here....and learning....lessons....are slow. quote:
mastery over the physical so that we are able to choose, of our volition, where we go next...
Yes, indeed.  I'm trying to do my best so that I won't have to come back. Or at least find myself in a better position next time around. Thanks guys. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 09, 2012 10:35 AM
It's the hard lessons learned that prompt me not to want to depart so soon. ------------------
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Randall
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posted July 10, 2012 10:48 AM
I love the physical life--even with its pain and heartaches.------------------
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emitres
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posted July 11, 2012 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by T:
It's very dense here....and learning....lessons....are slow.
i agree completely with this... it does sometimes feel like one's feet are stuck in mud doesn't it? at other times one can't take in the lessons fast enough, they seem to bullet fire at you...
for me, the hard lessons make it worthwhile...i'm with Randall on this one... as "sucky" as it can be at times, it's the flaws of this world which inspires some of my more "profound" sentiments... but i do respect your choice to want to move on T - be it here or elsewhere... thank you for your insights - always appreciated... ------------------
" Some define good as that which preserves, and evil as that which destroys; but destruction can be cleansing and purifying, for there is such a thing in both men and races as spiritual constipation, which comes from too much preservation of the status quo." ( Dion Fortune ) IP: Logged |
MAKLHOUF
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posted July 12, 2012 12:36 AM
I would say you have to look again at the concept of "here". What if "Here" is a place you can move in and out of, according to your will?------------------
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Randall
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posted July 13, 2012 10:30 AM
Interesting.------------------
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Randall
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posted July 14, 2012 01:16 PM
Can you elaborate?------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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posted July 15, 2012 05:16 AM
There comes a point when all that is necessary is to ask the right questions, although that may be frustrating to those who are looking for right answers.------------------
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Randall
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posted July 16, 2012 11:19 AM
You speak in riddles.------------------
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emitres
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posted July 17, 2012 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by MAKLHOUF:
I would say you have to look again at the concept of "here". What if "Here" is a place you can move in and out of, according to your will?
while i understand the point you make i think it's over complicating things... in this case, "here" isn't a concept - it's a physical reality called Earth... which is where i assume T is writing from ------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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posted July 17, 2012 02:39 PM
Earth to base, do you read me?
Seriously, everything in your last sentence is debatable.------------------
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Randall
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posted July 18, 2012 10:20 AM
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Randall
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posted July 19, 2012 12:20 PM
Everything in life can be debatable.------------------
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emitres
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posted July 20, 2012 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by MAKLHOUF:
Earth to base, do you read me?
Seriously, everything in your last sentence is debatable.
can you be more specific? ------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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posted July 21, 2012 12:35 AM
Well, to begin with, am I over complicating things, or am I making things simpler?------------------
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emitres
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posted July 24, 2012 10:57 AM
answering a question with a question... try again maklhouf ------------------
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MAKLHOUF
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posted July 24, 2012 02:14 PM
Perhaps you missed the answer I gave earlier. Here it is again.
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Originally posted by MAKLHOUF:
There comes a point when all that is necessary is to ask the right questions, although that may be frustrating to those who are looking for right answers.
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emitres
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posted July 25, 2012 12:50 PM
i did read that response... my question to you was can you be more specific as to what was debatable in my last sentence... quote:
...in this case, "here" isn't a concept - it's a physical reality called Earth...
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MAKLHOUF
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posted July 25, 2012 03:26 PM
There may or may not be a physical reality called earth, but I would say the word "here" is always a debatable concept. Where is here?------------------
And I will give you the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places
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emitres
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posted July 26, 2012 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by MAKLHOUF:
There may or may not be a physical reality called earth, but I would say the word "here" is always a debatable concept. Where is here?
i do agree with your point overall - although i will say that, at this point, i believe in the physicality of this planet - whether or not that belief is a rigid or fluid concept is a different matter... my point of "here" was in direct reference to T's statement... that's why i said that i thought you were over-complicating the matter just a bit... you are right - where is "here"? and that's something that can and should be discussed - but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar "here" is a valid point of reference to a physical location, even if that location is of our own mental creation... so, depending on the context, i don't necessarily agree that here is always debatable...
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MAKLHOUF
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posted July 26, 2012 01:54 PM
This link is for T, http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000266.html ------------------
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Randall
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posted August 30, 2012 01:56 AM
We assume that reality exists, and that is our starting point fo all other deductions.------------------
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