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sue g
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posted November 10, 2005 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
but after reading certain things on this board I will say it anyway....."respect your olders".....there I said it.

As I was growing up hundreds of years ago LOL, we as children were always told to respect our olders and to be polite and courteous. God, what happened? I really dont see much evidence of this these days.....having said that in Ireland it still stands that the older generation are treated very well.....but in some other parts of the world....its not so prevalent is it?

Dont get me wrong, the older generation dont know everything, sure they dont, but they have lived and experienced a great deal more than someone say in their 20s.

So young ones, mind yer manners will you in the future and have some consideration for the older generation, whatever we say, they do deserve some respect.

Love to all


Sue xxx

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Iqhunk
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posted November 10, 2005 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
On one hand it is great to respect older people for the extra travails they have undergone and their extra experience but from a higher spiritual perspective, it would also be better if older people stopped thinking they were old and help rid the planet of this mind controlled illness named old age, which just should not happen. From the absolute soul perspecive, nobody is old!

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Svetlana
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posted November 10, 2005 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Svetlana     Edit/Delete Message
sueg
Wise as always. I also grew up in society where children were taught to respect their elders. And I don't remember people been as scared to grow old as it is here. It was seen as just a season of life not a curse.

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 10, 2005 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
i very much agree, most people with capricorn in their chart will have a natural respect for their elders, unfortunatley our ages arne't posted by our names and we don't always know someone we're talking to is our elder!

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Philbird
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posted November 10, 2005 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Isn't that elders? I can say that because I'm up there in years as well!

Oh, and a grammar God!

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BlueRoamer
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posted November 10, 2005 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Kids these days! Actually if you guys have a spare minute I could really use your sage advice on the "roommate problems" thread, I would REALLY appreciate it!

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angel_of_hope
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posted November 10, 2005 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
Sue- i couldn't agree more. (coming from a 25yr old cappie) I've always respected my elders. More and more, in society you don't see the respect and appreciation for one another like one used to. And I'm not sure why. Surely you can blame the parents, but that's not fair when a person makes their own decisions its 'their' fault. But on the other hand, like Blue Roamer said, we don't always know when we are talking with someone older than ourselves. That's where, once again, the internet is deceiving. i don't think i know anyones ages ... although at times i can feel it thru their words and stories... but there are young wise ones as well .. so i could think someone who's in their 20's is advanced in their 30's ... again ... the internet is tricky. Either way ,whether one is older or younger - each should be treated with the utmost respect. How are we to advance spiritually, if we don't give what we ourselves want to receive.

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juniperb
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posted November 10, 2005 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Excellent idea. I have a couple questions tho;how does one propose who or what sets the criteria for an Elder?

Would it be based on chronological earth years,wisdom, both or another factor?

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SunChild
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posted November 10, 2005 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
I do my very best to respect everyone equally.
And in real life I do always respect my elders, so I do here too, I am exactly the same here as in real life, and I guess some others might not be due to the anonymity.
I don't really know anyone's ages on this board, unless it's mentioned of course. Even then I tend to forget.
So I just try be courteous and respectful to EVERYONE! The critea for joining stated this very clearly.
And as a Mod I try to uphold the integrity of the board as much as possible.

Anyway, good on you Sue for letting it be known, I hear ya.

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Johnny
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posted November 10, 2005 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Lqhunk. Sure, it's good to respect your elders ( and everyone else ), but I rather think that we have *all* been old, and then young, and then old again, at least a few times.

I would respect my elders more if they stopped being old and became young again. Without dying, first, I mean.

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lotusheartone
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posted November 10, 2005 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
LOL


yes always respect your elders
no matter what

Love and Light to ALL

I'm 39, does that mean anyone younger, should respect me???

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Yin
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posted November 10, 2005 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
I think it should be the ratio of age and grey hairs, Juni

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sue g
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posted November 10, 2005 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Respect your elders.......take it as you will guys.......my father who is 78 got called a grey haired old bas***d by some jumped up kid......because he got in his way when he was trying to ride his cycle on the pavement.

If I'd have been there I probably would have knocked him of his fecking bike, the arrogant little sh**........that is what I am talking about......but take it as you will........

Of course, we should be raised to respect all, but sometimes people who reach a certain age become vulnerable and frightened........this could be any of us one day........

Thats what I am referring to !

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SunChild
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posted November 10, 2005 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message

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Bluemoon
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posted November 10, 2005 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluemoon     Edit/Delete Message
Amen, Soogie!

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lioneye68
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posted November 10, 2005 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
I agree, Sue - and while we're at it, let's respect each other in general. Elders, respect the youngers - youngers, respect each other - elders, respect each other too.

Let's just all bone up on our respect-abilities. This is especially necessary in the big cities, where it seems like strangers are just enemies you haven't met yet.

All the uni-verse wants from us, is to be good to each other, and to ourselves. Is that too much to ask? I think not.

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sue g
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posted November 11, 2005 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks ladies.......

I agree......even here, there are one or two that maybe could do with learning some respect, as well as social skills....I just try these days, to avoid those kinds of people.....and put my energy into helping the ones who are more willing to act with humility......

xxx

Love to all


Sue xxx

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lovely*
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posted November 11, 2005 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
sue i totally agree with you. and what a lil fugger for saying something like that to a sweet old fella. i would ran after him with a bull whip and then of course get charged with assult and battery, lol

i do see it quite with hte kids around and sometimes in my own house. I can't help but feel like my mother, but the other day this neighbor-child knocked on my door to play with my precious, my daughter. I opened the door and said oh hello Summner, good to see U hon, katrins in her playroom. her response to me was.."hey whazz up" like she was tone loc, to me, the mommy, the elder. i told her she had to leave because we dont'talk to our friends like this (not in my house)..5 minutes later her dad came pounding on the door with his kid. not to appogize, but to cover up the fact that she is a disrespecting little biitch. children are not welcome in this house unless they respect elders. my daughter says mr. & mrs. even if its thier first name.

i try to keep the poisonous kids to a minimum but there are lots of em running around.

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sue g
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posted November 11, 2005 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Wow.....respect to you girl!!! Your child, I am sure, will grow up to be a considerate and popular human being!

I am amazed at times the way people speak to each other....name calling...totally peurile and mindless isnt it? When I witness that here, it always takes me by surprise!! I suppose it shows a lack of intellect, but evenso there are other ways to get yer point across in a more dignified way.

My father had a walking stick with him at the time, but of course like you say lovely, had he have used it, the law would have been on him like a ton of bricks......ridiculous isnt it.....that boy had probably been dragged up...oh dear, how many others are like this?

As far as LL goes, I know Ive raised this before, and I still feel strongly, that anyone who continually name calls on a forum, or shows disrespect to others, should be banned, either that or they should be ignored.....I dont want to be amongst this mentality, TBH.

Love to all


Sue xxx

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Lauren
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posted November 11, 2005 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lauren     Edit/Delete Message
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If I'd have been there I probably would have knocked him of his fecking bike, the arrogant little sh**........that is what I am talking about......but take it as you will

grrrrr so would I, totally. I can't stand those things, towards anyone..but even more so kids and old people, because they can't defend themselves. Nothing makes me angrier. Really brings out the Aries in me.

Sue, I think the only problem with it online is, people sometimes forget about the age thing. It's harder to keep that in mind when you don't see the person.

I do agree that constant rudeness shouldn't be allowed, towards anyone, any age.

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posted November 11, 2005 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message
My mouth is left hanging open any more when it comes to manners... which are learned... yes mam, no mam, no thank you, excuse me, please and the like... were and still are a big part of my vocabulary..it is respect.. plain and simple. It is sad that this is now neglected..at home ... the less important it becomes.. the less it will be... i say, you have to lead by example and accept nothing short of the same from your children....they are a product of their environment.
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fayte.m
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posted November 11, 2005 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
As a general rule...YES..respect for elders and even any age is a trait to be nutured and fostered. But beware when it gives the elder or any age one(s) the idea they have a license to USE and ABUSE! Family especially can overstep those bounds and the control freaks try to run your life.
I think most know what I mean.

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sue g
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posted November 11, 2005 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Oh I know what yer mean girl, I have heard horror stories about peoples' families......

The opposite with my family thankfully. My Dad and I now share a very equal relationship, and he doesnt burden me at all!! I can even swear without getting told off these days. He tells me tody that he got nicked for speeding...doing 6 miles over the limit. For fecks sake, really petty or what. Anyway I said to him oh Dad, I wanna call that cop a bad name but I wont....so he says " he is a right Ba****d " and I add "and a dickhead"....hahahahaha....he laughed loudly at me. I find as he ages he gets more appreciative of his family....and he is becoming cooler....and more relaxed...YAY........rock on Daddio.......

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cancerrg
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posted November 11, 2005 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cancerrg     Edit/Delete Message
i just read a news article , a man and her woman both in thier eighties have been left to fend for themselves . they have five sons and three daughters .

i salute the guts and the respect that they hold for themselves , they haven't asked for help from thier children .though we have a law that can compel the children to take care of thier parents or pay for thier maintainence .
parents normally dont use this facility though.

just wanted to share !

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future_uncertain
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posted November 11, 2005 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Sue, for this.

I almost feel bad for them... that no one taught them to be respectful... think of what they're missing.

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