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Azalaksh
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posted August 31, 2007 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Respect is fine, lala -- and we could use a lot more of it around here sometimes That's one reason why Mods are here.

But continuously badgering *anyone* for apologies (it's been over a year now in the specific case) seems counterproductive to me, and results in useless drama, and is energy that could be better spent elsewhere, imho.....

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lalalinda
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posted August 31, 2007 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
not just anyone Zala,
an apology is cleansing
it's good for your Karma

By the way now would be good time for a gentle reminder (get into the Christmas spirit, early) to those of you who can and would like to make a donation to Lindaland.
Randall spends a small fortune on this website and all gifts are greatly appreciated.

Zala, you're so organized will you please post the pay pal instructions. Thanks

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Azalaksh
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posted August 31, 2007 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
PayPal is easy, lala -- it has nothing to do with being organized

Just go to: https://www.paypal.com/
If you're not a member already, register and set up your information.
Or, Log In, and click on the "Send Money" tab.
In the "To: Email or Phone Number" field, enter webmaster@linda-goodman.com.
In the "From:" field, enter your own email.
In the "Amount U.S. Dollars:" field, choose your donation amount.

Randall nearly always sends a personal thankyou.....

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lalalinda
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posted August 31, 2007 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
thank you

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AcousticGod
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posted August 31, 2007 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone care to opine on whether I should chime in here?

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Azalaksh
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posted August 31, 2007 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
You can always chime or opine what you think in these here parts, Capt AG

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Johnny
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posted August 31, 2007 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message
You owe no apologies.

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AcousticGod
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posted August 31, 2007 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I think I can keep it simple.

I'm not here to be mothered, and I don't consider anyone who is not nurturing to be a mother-figure. I also reject the notion that Lalalinda is the "first to take responsibility for, apologize, and correct" her mistakes. It took her days to apologize for erasing my post, and even then she wasn't truly apologetic. She could care less, but she was getting so much flack she practically couldn't resist.

I'm both smart and moral, and I act accordingly. I learn from everything, but efforts to teach me will always be met with skepticism. That's what Gemini ascendant is all about: questioning the source. First I judge the person with my 8th house Sun's insight into the human psyche, and then I examine their ideas with my Mercury chart [and Moon] ruler. Lalalinda doesn't have my respect as a person on a moral or an intellectual level, so her attempts at teaching me are futile. There is nothing she can accomplish through engaging me.

I stand by everything I've said and done, and I reject anyone's notion that it impugns my character in any way. If the worst that can be said about me is that I:


    - started a forum to keep in contact with someone who was leaving this one
    - ran it democratically
    - neither censored nor denounced someone's speech despite its vulgarity towards one of my friends here

...that's fine by me. If it were up to me I'd have left the site up for scrutiny for eternity. I have no shame about it, nor will I. I define myself at LindaLand all the time through my words. My communication is consistent, my morals are consistent, and my character is consistent. The changes I've made while here have been in the direction of becoming more conservative rather than more controversial.

The notion that I'd be jealous of Randall is completely ludicrous. If that were the case I'd be shelling out money for my own forum, and I'd be working to promote it. I'm doing neither. Having been a forum webmaster I know it's a pain in the ass, especially if you're not that into it. All the emails from people every time something at the forum doesn't work right aren't "fun" to deal with. The drama you're neither a part of nor concerned with... not "fun" to deal with. Taking responsibility for everyone's forum experience is not "fun" at all. What's the reward?

I think that covers everything.

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Johnny
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posted August 31, 2007 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message
You forgot the cool goatee jealousy. I'd like you to address this too, please, AG.

I think we all would.

And then, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully, that will be the end of it.

But the goatee. We're waiting.

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marsconjunctmercury
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posted September 01, 2007 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for marsconjunctmercury     Edit/Delete Message
...So, a mixed welcome there writesomething.

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4th December 1974 18:00GMT Isle of Wight U.K
marsconjunctmercury@yahoo.co.uk
neutralcruiser@hotmail.co.uk

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lalalinda
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posted September 01, 2007 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
First I judge the person with my 8th house Sun's insight into the human psyche, and then I examine their ideas with my Mercury chart [and Moon] ruler.....acoustic

then do you vote?

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lalalinda
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posted September 02, 2007 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
"bump" for acoustic

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AcousticGod
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posted September 02, 2007 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Is this the bash AG Holiday Weekend? What? Only two people came out? Bummer

I don't know what you want from me Lalalinda. My instinct is to allow you your little hissyfit, and be done with it. Wanting me to respond isn't in your best interest. You never accomplish the goal that you seek. Why don't you understand that?

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lalalinda
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posted September 03, 2007 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
a plain and simple "I made a mistake I'm sorry" will suffice...lalalinda

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silverstone
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posted September 03, 2007 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
I'm both smart and moral, and I act accordingly. I learn from everything, but efforts to teach me will always be met with skepticism. That's what Gemini ascendant is all about: questioning the source.

There's no need to state that you are smart, moral and that you act accordingly. People get that through action, not words.
That reminds me of those people who constantly brag about their IQ scores and so forth... Insecurity that's what it truly means.

It reminds me of a speech we had to learn in middle school:

I am a decent human being capable of thinking, speaking and acting with intelligence and dignity. Each and every day I create experiences that makes me healthier and happier in body, mind and spirit

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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AcousticGod
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posted September 03, 2007 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I didn't make a mistake.

I did create a forum:
Yes, I did. As has been mentioned previously this site was spawned from a different forum. There's nothing inherently wrong with creating a forum. There isn't even anything inherently wrong with inviting people from one forum to another. People are free to do as they please.

I did run it democratically.
Yes, I did.

You remember everyone commenting on how I passed out Moderatorship to everyone. I did that for a reason, and the reason is that I didn't care to do it myself.

You also remember that people voted on membership, and whether or not we'd invite people to join us. You see that as a terrible thing, and as people talking behind other people's backs. The reality is that it was voted that it would be private. You know me well enough to know that I'm not particularly concerned about my own privacy. I live the way I live, and people can scrutinize as they please. I even created a site with all kinds of information about me for TINK back in the day. Only a good person can withstand the amount of scrutiny I open myself up to, and you've seen over and over again how people stand up for me. Do you think these people are under some sort of magical spell? Don't you think that if I could cast such a spell I'd be using it for much greater purposes than just defending myself from Lalalinda attacks? I'm truly not that compelling.

I didn't censor someone.
This is true as well. Way back when Randall was looking for a Moderator for GU my name came up, or maybe I volunteered, I don't remember. In the course of that thread, though, I foreshadowed that I probably wouldn't be inclined to censor anyone. When I had the power, it turned out that I didn't censor someone. Petron compared me to a KKK member for that. Not exactly what I would consider an apt comparison.

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Now, back when this initially came up, many of the members who were at the forum I created did give their thoughts. Those thoughts were almost universally dismissed by those who enjoyed the witch trial, but if you were listening you'd know that the things that dominated that conversation here at LL were not the same things that dominated the forum itself. Virtually NOTHING of what was enjoyed at the other forum has ever been considered by you, or any of the other people who only chose to look at it in a negative light.

Now, there's a reason people come to me to ask if there are other forums out there. There's a reason why people email me privately when they're dealing with Capricorn males. There's a reason people are interested in my astrological and psychological opinions.

You can choose to think what you like, but I have nothing to be ashamed of, and nothing to apologize to you for. I wasn't wrong. I didn't say anything about anyone that I wouldn't (or haven't) said to their face.

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AcousticGod
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posted September 03, 2007 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
There's no need to state that you are smart, moral and that you act accordingly. People get that through action, not words.

If they did, Silverstone, then why would I be asked to have this conversation? What's obvious to all the people who have defended me over my time here doesn't appear to be obvious to a few. I don't know why it isn't obvious, but for whatever reason that's the way it is. What would you have me say?

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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2007 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
AG...
you wrote that the members got to
vote who else could be members..
that means excluding people, and
different opinions, do you think
that was a good thing..
or more like a cult???

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Motherkonfessor
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posted September 03, 2007 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Motherkonfessor     Edit/Delete Message
I am fascinated by the fact that i have spent the past 6 months NOT knowing why LaLaLinda keeps haranguing AG....and even though I wasn't present for it, it still lingers like the smell of sh!t on a summer day.

I am going to say these things, even though I have NOTHING to do with it...

1. Did anyone die?
2. Did it start a transgalactic war in which we were all assimilated and forced to obey the Collective?
3. Did anyone contract a potentially life threatening STD?
4. Was anyone robbed of millions of dollars?


If the answer is "NO" then honestly, WTF IS THE BIG DEAL??????

This is the INTERNET- not the United Nations.

Good grief.

MK

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AcousticGod
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posted September 03, 2007 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Lotus,

I wouldn't even dream of considering it terms of being like a "cult." You know and have had interactions with I think everyone who was over there. Do you think they're cultists?

Here's the definition of the word: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cult
Please read it, and consider what you think.

It seems a little ridiculous to even say the following, but I guess I'll do it for your sake:

Response to definition 1:
There was no system of religious worship at my forum.

Response to definition 2:
I think the people at the forum like me generally, but I am completely unaware of it if they worship me. If they did, then I never saw any threads dedicated to my worship.

Response to definition 3:
I don't know what the object of our cult would be if were to be said to have had one.

Response to definition 4:
Bound together by our devotion to the same person, thing, or ideal? Not that I'm aware of.

Response to definition 5:
No. No sacred rites or ideology.

Response to definition 6:
Well, no one was living under me, and I clearly wasn't Moderating them, so I would think not. I certainly don't see the people that were there as extremists, and I don't think anyone here does either.
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I'm gonna skip the rest. It absolutely had no resemblance to a cult in any way. Definition 10 would have to be the closest way you could use that term in reference to KS.

Just like you've been a part of a circle of friends or family that has decided to exclude certain people, the people of KS decided to exclude certain people. Literally everyone has been a part of a group of friends who've excluded people they don't like. Why should a group arbitrarily accept a person that 90% of the group doesn't like?

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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2007 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Because God excludes none of his/
her
children, and why should we...??

You have mastered the art of
Manipulation AG...

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Motherkonfessor
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posted September 03, 2007 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Motherkonfessor     Edit/Delete Message
edited for double post...
and...

my fascination is with the fact it keeps coming up- over and over and over.

That's all.

MK

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lotusheartone
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posted September 03, 2007 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
MK, I believe it's about karma,
and things need to be worked
through..to bring balance,
cosmic balancing of the books
Life=File

Everything happens for a reason!

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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silverstone
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posted September 03, 2007 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
I am fascinated by the fact that i have spent the past 6 months NOT knowing why LaLaLinda keeps haranguing AG....and even though I wasn't present for it, it still lingers like the smell of sh!t on a summer day.

If the answer is "NO" then honestly, WTF IS THE BIG DEAL??????


If you are fascinated that you have spent the past 6 months NOT knowing why LaLaLinda keeps haranguing AG, then you say: WTF IS THE BIG DEAL?????? I am sure if you've been fascinated for 6 months then it is a BIG DEAL TO YOU. So, is it or not? MotherKonfessor, it looks to me like you just confessed yourself... lol...

But I think you are right, lets no bring in Kindred Spirits thread again, we all had enough of that... and lets not make this a big deal..

Good night

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Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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AcousticGod
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posted September 03, 2007 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Number one, Lotus, don't deny that you've never been a part of a group that has excluded someone. You and I both know that it would be a lie to say that You just accept everyone and always have.

As far as manipulating people, why is it that you believe I have this magical power? Why is it that you believe that people meet me over the internet and just hand over their Free Will to me?

You know, if you're on to something, then I should go ahead and run for President of the United States. Surely I can manipulate the masses after all my practice on the internet. ...oh, except that people like you exist to expose me.

*starts sending out brain waves to control my massive internet following*

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