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I'm sorry if you're offended that people like and respect me. I'm sorry that you can't perceive the truth about me. I'm sorry that you can't perceive the truth about your own position, and how you present yourself to others. That's just the way it is.

If you need to bring this up every few months in order to satisfy some need for justice, go ahead. Just realize that when I hold back from posting it's because I'm trying to spare you from your own undoing.

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You very much do the same to Lalalinda in other forums... so, please don't act as if you are Mr. innocent here. You like to start sh!t. I am an observer... I believe you help many here, but don't pretend you are not guilty of what you've done yourself:

http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=display private&number=12&topic=000482

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Oh...what a tempting set up.
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acoustic
I have no idea what you meant by that comment.
It has nothing to do with copy and paste a piece that applies to you.
We have never had a problem in this forum and we're not going to start now. OK?
Why are you here?
You have trashed this forum and publicly stated there is nothing for you to learn here. Have some respect for the people here trying to learn. PLEASE

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*****"No one can top a double Aries." ******
I wonder if she meant Moon or ASC?

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No one writes like Linda Goodman.
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Very accurate for just Sun Sign astrology. Amazing!
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i find that there are many capricorns in the low and/or middle classes although they will make it appear as though they are upper class or upper middle class.
but my lack of open aggressiveness and bragging or running my mouth has made me victorious in situations even when no one saw it coming.

everything else is basically on point.

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Yes i'm a capricorn with an aries moon and gemini rising. oh yea...

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Just from appearance, no one would guess I'm a Capricorn. I have strong Aquarian influences that make me less inclined to conform.
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You are also always bringing up what Linda Goodman wrote to Lalalinda:

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Before I left, he gave me a charming, gentle smile, and in a fascinating Hungarian accent, he said a funny thing. He said, "Capricorn will always triumph over Aries. The goat will win over the ram." It was spoken lightly, but he was quite serious. Outside the bookstore, I laughed to myself. "Imagine such conceit," I thought. "No one can top a double Aries." Know what? When I can't find certain books I need that have been out of print since Noah built the ark, the Capricorn comes up with them. Gradually, I've been forced to pay respectful tribute to his superiority. Now here I am crediting his Sun sign with qualities I envy, but don't possess. You see? Capricorn won.

Another confession. As an Aries, I hate to take direction. No Aries writer can stand to have anyone edit his work. Recently, it was suggested that a Capricorn woman go over some material I had written. I was infuriated. Outwardly I agreed, but secretly I decided that she wasn't going to change a single word of the product of my genius. I would only pretend to go along. She made her suggestions quietly, almost timidly, and against my will I saw only too clearly how intelligent they were. Why hadn't I thought of cutting that phrase and changing that word myself? After I had grudgingly followed her instructions to the letter, the improvement in the material was painfully obvious. Capricorn won again....Linda Goodman Sun Signs

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I think you take this out of context... As much as many people with the sign of Aries hate to take direction, many Capricorns are stubborn as hell and ambitious to the point where they lose as they are not very good at hiding it. Being in business, I've seen it many times with them, and they always lose ; they can also be very paranoid! This may not be true of all Capricorns, but the same can be said with Linda's statement. Two of my good friends are Capricorns so please don't turn this around and assume I dislike them.
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Happy Birthday Jwhop!
I still like you despite yourself.

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posted August 20, 2007 01:36 PM Happy Birthday Jwhop!
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That's not very nice, "I still like you despite yourself" Might as well not even say Happy Birthday to Jwhop... that's a f***cked up thing to say!

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The darkest evening of the year....
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But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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I'm sorry you see it that way Silverstone. I see it the same way I'd see a family member who has ideas I don't particularly agree with. I can still say Happy Birthday, and mean it despite not agreeing with his politics or personality. It would be more messed up to be so petty as to avoid his birthday altogether.
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I'm sorry you see it that way Silverstone. I see it the same way I'd see a family member who has ideas I don't particularly agree with. I can still say Happy Birthday, and mean it despite not agreeing with his politics or personality. It would be more messed up to be so petty as to avoid his birthday altogether.

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Just because Jwhop has a complete different view than you doesn't mean you have to come at him that way! Quote: "I see it the same way I'd see a family member who has ideas I don't particularly agree with..." You are entitled to your opinions. If a family member had a different opinion than me I wouldn't say to them, "Happy Birthday, Brother, I still like you, despite yourself"

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It would be more messed up to be hypocritical about it.

I have nothing against you only that I found your reply to him appalling and arrogant.
That would be like a knowflake coming to your birthday thread and saying:

"Happy Birthday, Acoustic God, despite Randall not wanting you here, I am sorry if you see it for what it is, but at least that's what it looks like, but I could be wrong: " http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013068.html

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You think it's wise to listen to the people? First, there's many many MANY Knowflakes here, not just the few who are riding the AG train. Second, this is not a democracy. I'm fair to everyone, but strong-arm tactics tend to make me resist. Once again, if anyone is unhappy with my way of running Linda's site or with my fairness in general, they can always find greener pastures. Heck, AG will make all of you a Moderator, I'm sure.
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What riot? A few out of a whole city is not a riot. And AJ is still here. If you will pay attention, her name is still on the Mod list for this Forum. I'm not certain where she went, but I'm waiting to hear from her. It has nothing to do with AG. It has to do with me supporting my Mods. If anyone can't look past this and move forward to creating a Forum Linda would be proud of, then I will gladly give them a refund. Oh, wait...no one has paid anything! I spend a small fortune keeping this site up and running and number one on the search engines so that Linda's fans can find us, and I am fair to everyone, including people who make a mistake...even AG.
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I'm sure it was more than just a couple, but the Knowflakes trust my decisions. I am always looking out for what is best for Linda's site. AG is hoping for an upheaval, but he will not get it today. He will have to steal his Members the old-fashioned way...by hard work and search engine optimization.
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What AG train, you ask? Open your eyes. He's playing all of you like a fiddle. But once again, I've asked lalalinda to not be so quick with the delete button. It's in the past. It won't happen again. Let it go.
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I'm certainly no AG fan. But this is about supporting my Mods. They are my family, and I don't disown my family over a mistake or error in judgment.
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The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
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But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost

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Silverstone,
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What is hypocritical in there? If you understood my relationship with Jwhop you'd understand that it's not a relationship of mincing words. We both speak our minds with frankness and honesty. If you don't like that, it's ok.

As far as the thread you linked to and Randall's words, that thread was initiated in response to something Lalalinda did wrong, and, as you see, there were some who were both offended by Lalalinda as well as Randall. The only things I can tell you beyond that are obvious, so I'll let you imagine my response in order to avoid writing what's obvious.

You say: Silverstone,
I don't even know what you mean by this:

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It would be more messed up to be hypocritical about it.

I'm sorry you see it that way Silverstone. I see it the same way I'd see a family member who has ideas I don't particularly agree with. I can still say Happy Birthday, and mean it despite not agreeing with his politics or personality.

Passive Aggressive: that is what it is called when people act like you...

*FEELING VICTIMIZED - The p/a man protests that others unfairly accuse him rather than owning up to his own misdeeds. To remain above reporach, he sets himself up as the apparently hapless, innocent victim of your excessive demands and tirades.

PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE PERSONALITY DISORDER

People with PAPD are characterized by covert obstructionism, procrastination, stubbornness, and inefficiency. Such behavior is a manifestation of passively expressed underlying aggression. In the DSM-IV the disorder is also called negativistic PD.

Someone who is passive-aggressive will typically not confront others directly about problems, but instead will attempt to undermine their confidence or their success through comments and actions which, if challenged, can be explained away innocently so as not to place blame on the passive-aggressive person.

Often passive-aggressive behavior manifests itself in individuals who view themselves as "peaceful." These individuals feel that expressing their anger through passive-aggressive behavior is morally favorable to direct confrontation.

posted September 03, 2007 08:57 PM         

What bothers me is that you put all the blame on Lalalinda.

posted September 03, 2007 09:05 PM         

I do act from my own sense of justice as much as anyone; yes, I agree with that. I have two planets in Libra, and three planets in Libra's house, the 7th. You want to sit here and claim that because I'm right in this instance I haven't been right in previous instances? I'll gladly volunteer to debate you on any of my behavior if you like. Regarding what I said about Linda Goodman's writing, it's in the pages of Sun Signs: an Aries admitting that when she deals with Capricorns she inevitably has to concede that Capricorn point of view is more often correct or desirable. I admit to having been harsh with some Aries while here, but I've also dated an Aries while being a member here, and reconciled with another Aries member here. I actively evolve. Also, the last several encounters with Lalalinda have been initiated by Lalalinda, not me.

Regarding Passive-Aggressive behavior, it seems like that's the most common catch-all way of calling me a pain in the rear. Have you studied passive-aggressive behavior yourself? Are you certain that you could diagnose me as such? Isn't that merely a high-minded put down?

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Dear Cecil:

What exactly does it mean to say that someone is "passive-aggressive"? I hear this term used frequently, usually with reference to a coworker, child, parent, etc, who is being a pain in the ass. Surely there's a more rigorous clinical definition than that. --Frank Caplice, Chicago

Cecil replies:

You might get some argument there, Frank. It's true that if you look under "passive-aggressive personality disorder" (PAPD) in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (the older editions--more about that below), you find the syndrome solemnly described as a "pervasive pattern of passive resistance to demands for adequate social and occupational performance." But once you delve into the history of the term, you realize that--at least in the eyes of its critics--it's mostly useful as a high-flown way to call someone a pain in the ass.

The term "passive-aggressive" was introduced in a 1945 U.S. War Department technical bulletin, describing soldiers who weren't openly insubordinate but shirked duty through procrastination, willful incompetence, and so on. If you've ever served in the military during wartime, though, or for that matter read Catch-22, you realize that what the brass calls a personality disorder a grunt might call a rational strategy to avoid getting killed.

After the war the term found its way into civilian psychiatric practice and for many years was listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, the bible of the mental health trade. According to the revised third edition (DSM-III-R, 1987), someone had PAPD if he displayed five or more of the following behaviors: (1) procrastinates, (2) sulks or argues when asked to do something he doesn't want to do, (3) works inefficiently on unwanted tasks, (4) complains without justification of unreasonable demands, (5) "forgets" obligations, (6) believes he is doing a much better job than others think, (7) resents useful suggestions, (8) fails to do his share, or (9) unreasonably criticizes authority figures.

You may say: I know a lot of people like that. Or even: I'm that way myself sometimes. Exactly the problem. From the outset skeptics argued that passive-aggressive behavior is an ordinary defensive maneuver and shouldn't be considered symptomatic of a mental disorder. Reacting to such criticism, the authors of previous versions of the DSM had defined PAPD narrowly: in DSM-III (1980), they'd said PAPD shouldn't be diagnosed in the presence of any other disorder (you can see how depression might contribute to procrastination or sulkiness, for example). The idea apparently was to curb careless use of the term--though shrinks weren't likely to say somebody was mentally ill if he was just a PITA, if he had some other psychiatric problem, they'd throw in PAPD too. Sure enough, after DSM-III diagnoses of PAPD declined sharply, to the point that some researchers felt the category should be abolished. Others, however, thought the exclusivity criterion was unnecessarily limiting and persuaded the editors of DSM-III-R to drop it. PAPD diagnoses shot back up. Conclusion: If we define PAPD rigorously, almost nobody has it; if we define it loosely, just about everybody does.

Recognizing that the definition as then formulated wasn't working but uncertain how to fix it, the compilers of DSM-IV (1994) dumped PAPD from the list of official disorders and relegated it to an appendix. The most telling complaint, in my opinion, was that merely being passive-aggressive isn't a disorder but a behavior--sometimes a perfectly rational behavior, which lets you dodge unpleasant chores while avoiding confrontation. It's only pathological if it's a habitual, crippling response reflecting a pervasively pessimistic attitude--people who suffer from PAPD expect disappointment, and gain a sense of control over their lives by bringing it about. Some psychiatrists have suggested that PAPD be merged into a broader category, called negativistic personality disorder. Diagnostic criteria: passive-aggressive plus (a) mad at the world, (b) envious and resentful, (c) feels cheated by life, and (d) alternately hostile and clingy.

We'll let the specialists work out the details. For now, though, we lay folk should strive to use the term "passive-aggressive" more precisely in everyday life. Say for instance that a coworker cheerfully agrees to refrain from a specified uncool act, then does it anyway. Is this passive-aggressive behavior? No, this is being an ******* . Comforting as it can be to pigeonhole our tormentors with off-the-shelf psychiatric diagnoses, sometimes it's best just to call a jerk a jerk.

--CECIL ADAMS http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030530.html

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Do we need to get into this passive-aggressive debate now, or can we agree that "passive-aggressive" is just name-calling from someone on a high horse?

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I have two planets in Libra, and three planets in Libra's house, the 7th. You want to sit here and claim that because I'm right in this instance I haven't been right in previous instances? I'll gladly volunteer to debate you on any of my behavior if you like.

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Just for some clarification I feel the need to assert that I'm not at all a melancholic, negativistic person. My stellium in the 7th is also in Sagittarius.

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Passive-aggressive behavior refers to passive, sometimes obstructionist resistance to following authoritative instructions in interpersonal or occupational situations. It can manifest itself as resentment, stubbornness, procrastination, sullenness, or repeated failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is assumed, often explicitly, to be responsible. It is a defensive mechanism and, more often than not, only partly conscious. For example, people who are passive-aggressive might take so long to get ready for a party they do not wish to attend, that the party is nearly over by the time they arrive.

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1 Passive-aggression as a personality disorder
2 History
3 Common signs of passive-aggressive personality disorder
4 See also
5 References
6 External links

Passive-aggression as a personality disorder
Passive-aggressive personality disorder (also called negativistic personality disorder) is a controversial personality disorder said to be marked by a pervasive pattern of negative attitudes and passive, usually disavowed resistance in interpersonal or occupational situations.

It was listed as an Axis II personality disorder in the DSM-III-R, but was moved in the DSM-IV to Appendix B ("Criteria Sets and Axes Provided for Further Study") because of controversy and the need for further research on how to categorize the behaviors in a future edition. On that point, Cecil Adams writes:

Merely being passive-aggressive isn't a disorder but a behavior — sometimes a perfectly rational behavior, which lets you dodge unpleasant chores while avoiding confrontation. It's only pathological if it's a habitual, crippling response reflecting a pervasively pessimistic attitude.[1]
When the behaviors are part of a person's disorder or personality style, repercussions are usually not immediate, but instead accumulate over time as the individuals affected by the person come to recognize the disavowed aggression coming from that person. People with this personality style are often quite unconscious of their impact on others, and thus may be genuinely dismayed when held to account for the inconvenience or discomfort caused by their passive-aggressive behaviors. In that context, there is a failure to see how they might have provoked a negative response, so they feel misunderstood, held to unreasonable standards, and/or put upon.

OMG... I like this one:
Treatment of this disorder can be difficult: efforts to convince the patient that their unconscious feelings are being expressed passively, and that those feelings inspire other people's anger or disappointment with the patient, are often met with resistance. Individuals with the disorder will frequently leave treatment claiming that it did no good. Since the effectiveness of various therapies have yet to be proven, these individuals may be correct.

In the psychoanalytic theory of transactional analysis, many types of passive-aggressive behavior are interpreted as "games" with a hidden psychological payoff, and are classified with names like "Why Don't You...? Yes, But...", "See What You Made Me Do" and "Look How Hard I've Tried" into stereotypical scenarios. Similarly, other types of passive-aggressive behaviors can be described by names like "You Forgot To Do That On Purpose, Didn't You" or "I Don't Want To Be Treated Like This; Do You?"

Passive aggressive disorder is said to stem from a specific childhood stimulus (e.g. overbearing parental figures, or alcohol/drug addicted parents).

History
The term "passive-aggressive" was first used by the U.S. military during World War II, when military psychiatrists noted the behavior of soldiers who displayed passive resistance and reluctant compliance to orders. [2]

Common signs of passive-aggressive personality disorder
There are certain behaviors that help identify passive-aggressive behavior. [3]

Ambiguity
Avoiding responsibility by claiming forgetfulness
Blaming others
Chronic lateness and forgetfulness
Complaining
Does not express hostility or anger openly
Fear of authority
Fear of competition
Fear of dependency
Fear of intimacy
Fosters chaos
Intentional inefficiency
Making Excuses
Lying
Obstructionism
Procrastination
Resentment
Resists suggestions from others
Sarcasm
Stubborness
Sullenness
A passive-aggressive may not have all of these behaviours, and may have other non-passive-aggressive traits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive

posted September 03, 2007 09:49 PM         

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That's right, AG, you are never wrong...LMAO. I've met people like you before!

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Passive Aggressive Personality Disorder, if you read, is something concocted by the military, and over time first embraced and then abandoned by the psychiatric community.

I guess you're saying that we need to deal with this imaginary problem?

Resentment
What do you think I'm resentful of?

Stubbornness
Since when is stubbornness a necessarily bad thing?

Sullenness
Care to illuminate us on my sullenness?

Failure to complete requested tasks for which one is assumed to be responsible for
I don't have any tasks here.

Negative Attitudes
Am I the one promoting negativity going around asking for apologies I don't deserve?

Rational Behavior to Dodge Unpleasant Chores
I don't have any chores here.

Disavowed Aggression
When have I ever disavowed my aggression?

Why Don't You?; Yes, but...; See What You Made Me Do; Look How Hard I've Tried
This is probably one that you agree with, because I have the ability to communicate. However, these --when attached to the meaning of passive-aggressiveness-- are examples of people making excuses to get out of doing things. What am I trying to get out doing? Apologizing to someone who doesn't warrant apology in the slightest?

Ambiguity
If there's one thing I excel at, it's being clear and concise

Avoiding Responsibility by Claiming Forgetfulness
What responsibility do I have here?

Blaming Others
When Lalalinda keeps instigating on an issue, how exactly would you put the blame on me?

Complaining
See above. Who is instigating?

Does Not Express Hostility or Anger Openly
Is there any doubt amongst anyone here whom I am hostile toward? Is there any way I could express my hostility any more emphatically?

Fear of Authority
Not the Capricorn way. I'm not afraid to challenge the "authority" if the authority isn't an authority at all.

Fear of Competition
What would you like to compete in? 8th house Capricorn Sun with Mars in Scorpio is always up for a challenge.

Fear of Dependency
I would prefer for people not to be dependent on me, that's true. I like for people to be self-sufficient as much as they are able.

Fear of Intimacy
Would be hard to gauge something like that over the internet, wouldn't it? ...but it would be hard to make the claim that I'm overly quiet or that I run from people examining me when I've done stuff like create this: http://www.freewebs.com/acousticgod/

Fosters Chaos
If it were changed to 'drama' then I think that might be a fair charge. My Virgo Moon doesn't abide chaos.

Intentional Inefficiency
Like what?

Making Excuses
Here, once again, when taken in context with the disorder the excuses are to get out of something, and can be completely rational. I am extremely rational myself. What some here may perceive as excuses, the rest perceive as logical reasoning. Usually those that find me practical and logical outnumber those who don't.

Lying
I don't see the need to lie about anything.

Obstructionism
Yes, I'll obstruct Lalalinda from trying to extract an apology from writesomething.

Procrastination
We already know I have no duties here, so there can be no procrastination.

Resentment
Who do I resent and why? Lalalinda thinks I'm jealous of Randall, but where's the rationale?

Resists Suggestions From Others
Only if the suggestions are unreasonable. Once again, if we go to my chart we find that my chart's focus is on others. My Mercury is in the 7th house. Look up that interp. (Seriously, do it.)

Sarcasm
Lots of people would be passive-aggressive if this is a defining trait.

posted September 03, 2007 10:33 PM         

Actually that Zala was a member of KS gives her more insight than it does me. She was privy to what actually took place at KS. Others who are joining in this conversation are basing their judgments solely on hearsay. And there is way too much judgment going on in this thread. That will get us nowhere. No one is going to respond positively to being judged so harshly.

Here's the thing: if it must be discussed in public on the forums it does not belong on this thread. This KS stuff has totally trashed what should have been strictly a welcome back thread for writesomething. Speaking of apologies, everyone owes writesomething one.

I spoke with Zala who also feels the KS discussion does not belong on this thread. We do not wish to close or delete writesomething's welcome back thread so we have decided together to start a new thread, move everything regarding the KS discussion to the new thread and leave this thread solely for the purpose of a welcoming thread for writesomething.

If it must be discussed on the public forums then it can be discussed on the new thread. Truthfully I will say that I am so not looking forward to traveling down that road again.

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We're tired of the AG/KS/lala stuff infiltrating other topics. We think it should have its own sorry home so people can either avoid it, or chuck in their two cents.

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I agree. To those that do want to, but why bother??

posted September 03, 2007 10:51 PM         

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A passive-aggressive may not have all of these behaviours, and may have other non-passive-aggressive traits.

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posted September 03, 2007 10:51 PM         

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We think it should have its own sorry home so people can either avoid it, or chuck in their two cents.

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posted September 03, 2007 10:52 PM         

please stop giving us even more posts to move.....

posted September 03, 2007 10:58 PM         

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AG, I didn't say you have "all" the traits of a PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE.

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That's the hard part about using such a label, isn't it? It isn't exactly accurate. Also, it just amounts to simple, unsubstantiated name-calling.

posted September 04, 2007 01:27 AM         

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"AG vs Lalalinda Round 261"

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my personal favorite is

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Hey Mr. Potato Head, You Owe Me an Apology

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silverstone All I want to do with you is smile
I haven't seen smarts like this since acoustic discussed Jwhops Mars on a thread he wasn't present on. (and Jwhop had to put him in his place)

no need to start a new thread
untill round 262 then

Out

posted September 04, 2007 10:23 AM         

Therefore, *if* there are further AG/KS/lalalinda "discussions" in threads other than the designated "Conjure the KS Ghost Here" thread ( http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/008717.html ), we've decided to reply with a notice that Mirandee or Zala will delete the post if the poster doesn't edit/move it to the Designated Bashing Ground.

posted September 04, 2007 01:27 PM         

So I can now TRULY WELCOME " writesomething "!!!!

posted September 04, 2007 05:57 PM         

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Ya, lets delete this forum!!! Just start a fresh!!!

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this forum?, you're kidding right?