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Topic: Labels limit us!!!
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fayte.m
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
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posted September 19, 2007 12:59 PM
 
I love rainbows and sunflowers and the Wizard of Oz too!   But what have they to do with labels?  ------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
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artlovesdawn
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posted September 19, 2007 01:08 PM
Salone Star, I think that is a smart observation: that labels limit us. One of the things I like to notice is how people often grow into their names or their stereotypes. A woman with the last name Angel struck me as beautiful, gentle and peaceful.
A man with the last name Sweat has always been a very hard worker, salt-of-the-earth, and rugged. I honestly think a lot has to do with their name, they are so concious of the word that it has altered the way they see self and the way they allow self to act. - - - - - - - - - - Fayte, I really like the way you think so much about things, you dig into them, which shows you are paying so much attention, that is great! You stated some things in this post that you've said on another post, the one in health and healing about a Louise Hay book. I do believe our circumstances affect us and we in turn affect the world. That is my basic premise for understanding the thoughts on these two threads. -- So I'm wondering why you think our bodies, words, thoughts and circumstances, etc do NOT have an influence on the way we experience the world and vice versa? -- Or what am I misunderstanding/not getting about the point you are making? Thank you! IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted September 19, 2007 01:11 PM
I have known a prostitute named Angel and read of a murderer named Jesus.
Names and labels only have influence and power if we let them.
Don't recollect anyone personally by the name of Sweat. Known others though who were not anything like their names!
Lawless
Brown
Black
White
Early
Dullard
French
English
Merry
Happy
etcetera.
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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Mirandee
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posted September 19, 2007 01:17 PM
In the whole story of the Wizard of Oz nobody actually knew that the things that they wished OZ to grant to them were things they had inwardly in theirselves all along but were unaware of. Even while all through the trip to Oz the scarecrow was exhibiting his wisdom out of love, the lion was exhibiting his courage out of love and tin man his heart they did not recognize that they had that inward power and it was part of their souls. Dorothy did not realize that she had the power within herself all along to go home by only wishing it to be so. None of the characters in the Wizard of Oz knew the true definition of themselves but were defining themselves based on what they were outwardly. They labeled themselves of being made of straw, made of tin and lacking the courage lions were supposed to possess. So I think for that reason the Wizard of Oz is very fitting for a thread on labels.  It's the "bigger picture." IP: Logged |
artlovesdawn
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posted September 19, 2007 01:21 PM
Fayte,Good point! I agree that obviously Angel or Sweat or whatever name does not HAVE TO have a strong effect on a person. My point is merely that it can be one of the factors that does affect them. That the frequent bringing to conciousness of a word/idea can influence a person. Mirandee,
Thank you that is a great explanation of what I was thinking but hadn't put into words. IP: Logged |
Solane Star
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posted September 19, 2007 01:21 PM
Thats right and its all in ones own REFLECTION of what we precieve it to BE, that I GET IT " I AM " !!!!It's ALL in how You See it or precieve it to BE and thats what is REFLECTED back at you from others!!! IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted September 19, 2007 01:22 PM
Mirandee said:
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None of the characters in the Wizard of Oz knew the true definition of themselves but were defining themselves based on what they were outwardly. They labeled themselves of being made of straw, made of tin and lacking the courage lions were supposed to possess.
Ok..that made logical rational sense.
That you for pointing out the correlation to labels.artlovesdawn
I understood!
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A woman with the last name Angel struck me as beautiful, gentle and peaceful.
A man with the last name Sweat has always been a very hard worker, salt-of-the-earth, and rugged.
However now I pose a question.....were those YOUR perceptions of them, or was that how THEY saw themselves too? 
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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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Solane Star
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posted September 19, 2007 01:24 PM
YA, you said it Beautifully Mirandee!!!THANKS!!! Take Heart Straw MAN!!!!
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Solane Star
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posted September 19, 2007 01:31 PM
Even the opposites of a reflection can be seen as the same thing.PARADOX!!!!! IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted September 19, 2007 01:32 PM
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Fayte,I really like the way you think so much about things, you dig into them, which shows you are paying so much attention, that is great!
I have been accused of over analyzing things, so thank you for the compliment!
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You stated some things in this post that you've said on another post, the one in health and healing about a Louise Hay book.I do believe our circumstances affect us and we in turn affect the world. That is my basic premise for understanding the thoughts on these two threads. -- So I'm wondering why you think our bodies, words, thoughts and circumstances, etc do NOT have an influence on the way we experience the world and vice versa? -- Or what am I misunderstanding/not getting about the point you are making? Thank you!
Just saw the above...was it there before or did I miss it? I will reply after I clean up lunch mess, and attend to some other household matters.
But please clarify what I said here on this label thread that relates to what I said... quote:
You stated some things in this post that you've said on another post,the one in health and healing about a Louise Hay book.
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-- So I'm wondering why you think our bodies, words, thoughts and circumstances, etc do NOT have an influence on the way we experience the world and vice versa?-- Or what am I misunderstanding/not getting about the point you are making?
Yes...I think perhaps there is a misunderstanding.
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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artlovesdawn
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posted September 19, 2007 01:36 PM
Hi Fayte,Answer to question if Angel and Sweat was the way I saw them or the way they saw themselves. I can only answer for the way I perceived them which was based on clues from the way they presented/maintained themselves through their looks, words, ways and actions. And yes I do realize that the way I perceived them might also have been influenced/shaped by hearing their names. Answer to question if I added more questions to previous post? Yes I added that (sorry), you had NOT missed it. I was trying to be more clear because I am afraid you might think I was picking on you, when I just wanted to understand your point better. You have a good astute eye. Thread found here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001867.html IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted September 19, 2007 01:48 PM
artlovesdawn
Thank you! Nice explanation about the names!
And thank you, no apologies required for adding more to your previous post. I do that at times too.
Just wanted to make sure I was not having a brain fart! 
Whew! What a relief! quote:
Yes I added that (sorry), you had NOT missed it. I was trying to be more clear because I am afraid you might think I was picking on you, when I just wanted to understand your point better. You have a good astute eye.
Thank you again for asking! Not feeling picked on at all! How can we be understood if asking questions is seen as picking on someone? Oh sometimes it is...but you did not come across that way at all to me!
OK..seriously...must go! The cat is licking the dirty dishes and I have a few important calls to make and return before 4pm. today!
So bear with me! Later!
Sincerely
Fayte
PS. re-read what all I wrote and you will see I do believe in the mind body connection. If you have any more questions please ask! I simply do not believe the mind and perceptions cause all such troubles. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001867.html
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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fayte.m
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posted September 19, 2007 01:54 PM
Is anyone else having posting problems today?  ------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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Unmoved
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posted September 19, 2007 02:22 PM
Excellent topic SS.Very true. Good points shared too. Great read. IP: Logged |
Mirandee
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posted September 19, 2007 03:22 PM
I tend to think that it is a two way thing regarding how we perceive others and how they perceive themselves. How we perceive ourselves is what we reflect to others. If we have low self-esteem others pick up on that. If we feel we are worthless we project that image of ourselves to others and they may, depending on the person, even see us that way because it is what we are projecting to them. Even what we feel about our appearance or looks on any given day is reflected back to us in the mirror. While others may not see us that way at all but think we look nice. Or really don't even care how we look but look at us as the person they think we are. I also believe that there is a very strong mind/body connection. We project outwardly the way we think or feel inwardly. We also project that image to ourselves. I think all of us are the characters in the Wizard of OZ because like them we have not yet fully tapped into the wisdom of the soul we possess, the full measure of love we possess, the indominable courage all humans have to overcome anything in life and grow from it, and like Dorothy we do not yet fully realize that we have the power within ourselves to acheive what our heart longs for. Like those characters in the Wizard of Oz we are also on a journey to get the things we long for. IP: Logged |
Solane Star
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posted September 19, 2007 03:58 PM
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate,
Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It's our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us.
We ask ourselves: who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented and fabulous^
Actually, who are you not to be?
You are a child of the universe.
Your playing small doesn't serve the world.
There is nothing enlightening about shrinking,
so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
We are born to make manifest the glory of the universe
that is within us. It's not just in some of us: it is in everyone.
And as we let our own light shine,
we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.
And as we are liberated from our own fear,
our presence automatically liberates others."
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fayte.m
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
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posted September 19, 2007 08:36 PM
Mirandee said:
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People who may have known us for a very, very long time could not accurately define who we really are because they base their knowledge of us on their own judgments and perceptions of who we are.
I agree; however it does partially depend on how we treat others as to what their perceptions and judgments are of us. It also depends on where their heads and emotions are at. Do they measure us in how they would act or feel under certain conditions, or do they recognize that we may not think or feel the same as they do? quote:
They do not see our souls. Mostly others miss the glimpses of our soul in our words and actions.
We are not mind readers. If one throws a brick at my head and then claims they are sorry...what am I to believe? If someone tells me they are sad for me if my pet snake died, but then I learn they hate snakes and think folks who own them are freaks....what am I to think of them then? quote:
I think that is because so many people are too busy judging for themselves our intentions which is futile because they can never know that.
One can guess but unless the other tells the other honestly openly and in absolute truth, yes indeed one must assume. and can only guess at the other's motive and or intentions. However if the other is not into complete honesty(no matter what their rationale for telling lies is) and tells even white lies, to spare feelings, then even when they tell us their motives and intentions....can we really believe them then? quote:
Mainly because most of us don't actually know our true selves and many, many people never honestly go inwardly and question their own intentions so they don't know their true intentions on the most part anymore than others do.
And there is the rub. Some do go within, some do not, some more or less. I recently consulted with some folks who are also completely honest and have known me a long time. I said...I want a reality check. I am going to tell you all my faults I can think of.
Let me know if I miss any ok? Well once done there were chuckles and "Nope, didn't miss any! And you told me a couple I did not know about"
I have been told many times that I am an aberration of the common mindset(or chuckle, some kind of weird masochist!) because I do go within and do want to know myself and even ask outsiders who will not lie to me to lay it out before me in all nakedness anything I have missed. How many folks would even dare even consider such a brutal self analysis? How many would feel greatly blessed to have a few folks who are totally honest with them at all times no matter what? Oh I am quite aware of myself. What I take issue with is folks assuming I am like them in how I think feel and react. I am different. Even psychiatrists have said so. Some of them think it abnormal(but in a positive way) for one to desire to, and then hunt down and confront themselves on all levels. I find it interesting and clearing and soul freeing! Oh naked self unfettered! Its easy to grow when one finds the seed of self within the shell and packaging!
I find it personally illogical as to why on Earth would one want to hide from self. I am trying to understand. I can see the psychological reasons by way of textbook reactions/reasoning/ justifications of it all, but I still find that fear of knowing self to be illogical. How awful it must be to sleep each night with all that fear of what cannot be escaped even with rose colored glasses and denial mechanisms in place. Maybe that is why dreams of falling and being chased and drowning are so common? 
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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fayte.m
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posted September 19, 2007 08:37 PM
artlovesdawn said:
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You stated some things in this post that you've said on another post, the one in health and healing about a Louise Hay book.
I must be daft today. I'm still not sure of the correlation to this thread on labels. However I shall attempt a reply nonetheless.
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I do believe our circumstances affect us and we in turn affect the world. That is my basic premise for understanding the thoughts on these two threads.
Personally for me, I know others feel and behave otherwise.....however, yes I agree...our circumstances do affect us indeed. But why would I want my unpleasant circumstances to flavor or affect the world? quote:
I do believe our circumstances affect us and we in turn affect the world.
Perhaps I am misunderstanding the point you are trying to make. I however do not take my woes and project them onto others. I have witnessed folks implying that when I disagree with them it is because I am disabled or having other problems. Like my recent stroke. Seriously I find that utterly ridiculous! Why would that have anything to do with my disagreeing with them on some issue or voicing my viewpoint?
Those are totally unrelated things. That mindset totally bewilders me! quote:
-- So I'm wondering why you think our bodies, words, thoughts and circumstances, etc do NOT have an influence on the way we experience the world and vice versa?-- Or what am I misunderstanding/not getting about the point you are making?
Yes you have misunderstood me. Sorry that I was not clear enough it seems.I said..here in excepts from that page: quote:
Yes a person can imagine they have something and it will mimic the real thing but it will not be it, only in their mind, All tests will show they do not have anything.I get quite angry over these new age one size fits all cure alls and causes. Yeah, for the truly psychosomatic ailments, NOT having any type of physical basis, such advice may be somewhat useful. However in the psychiatric sense, those physical woes can also be caused by physical chemical imbalances in the brain. In the case of unfounded phobias or non physically explained hypochondria, those could be perhaps past life memories. Then there is Münchausen syndrome by proxy.
A child can in essence become brainwashed into believing they are gravely ill because of a parent with this. However some parents will actually poison the child or abuse them to bring on real symptoms.
Some things can have a non physical cause.
For example:
Stuttering Insecurity, lack of self- expression. Not being allowed to cry.
However even that can be due to stroke or injury etcetera. Can mind affect real disease and illness? Of course it can, but DOES NOT CAUSE IT AND
nicey nice affirmations WILL NOT automatically CURE IT. I do believe in the mind body connection and that is one reason why I am not worse off. I can handle poison ivy with no ill effects too.
When cut or burned I heal within hours. Even when I almost got my thumb severed off, I had it sewn back on and set without pain killers. Within 4 days you could barely tell anything had happened.
I hope that helps make things clearer.continued next post... ------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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fayte.m
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posted September 19, 2007 08:38 PM
Mirandee said: quote:
How we perceive ourselves is what we reflect to others.
Not true to me. I know some very pretty ladies and handsome gentlemen who think they are ugly. I know some real conceited folks who strut about thinking they are the end all to be all. And I think...man you wish! quote:
If we have low self-esteem others pick up on that. If we feel we are worthless we project that image of ourselves to others and they may, depending on the person, even see us that way because it is what we are projecting to them.
That is terrible. How hard is it to see it is a case of low self esteem? Only another with low self esteem of the type who needs to tear others down to build them selves up would think thusly of another. quote:
I also believe that there is a very strong mind/body connection. We project outwardly the way we think or feel inwardly. We also project that image to ourselves.
Are you referring to the physical being affected by the mind or being rude when one is ill and taking it out unprovoked on unsuspecting others?continued next post... ------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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fayte.m
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posted September 19, 2007 08:39 PM
Solane Star quoted: quote:
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate,
Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It's our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us.
We ask ourselves: who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented and fabulous^
Actually, who are you not to be.
Is that really how most folks feel and what they fear?
But if so...why????????????
quote:
You are a child of the universe.
Your playing small doesn't serve the world.
There is nothing enlightening about shrinking,
so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
Indeed! That is lying and faking.
quote:
We are born to make manifest the glory of the universethat is within us.
It's not just in some of us: it is in everyone.
And as we let our own light shine,
we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.
And as we are liberated from our own fear,
our presence automatically liberates others."- MARIANNE WILLIAMSON
But does it automatically liberate others or bring out more fear of change in them?------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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MoonWitch
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posted September 20, 2007 08:07 PM
***Without labels and numbers how can we know which Bob Smith? Is it Bob the guy in a wheelchair needing his disability check? Or Bob
the thief in prison? Or is he the Bob needing his retirement and SS check? Is he blind Bob, poor Bob, which Bob Smith? Is he little Bob with special needs?
We need labels.***Agreed. Otherwise, communication would get very difficult as most of us cannot yet communicate telepatically. We have the choice to not limit ourselves with descriptive labels by picking as many of them that apply. I'm a mom, a lover, a friend, a girlfriend, a confidant, a rival, an employee, an artist, a dreamer, a walker, a hiker, a nature lover, a toe-wiggler. I'm also more or fewer labels than that on any given day or hour but that gives people an idea if I want to communicate with them on a decent level (especially on the internet). If I asked someone to tell me about themselves and they just said "I am" then I'd assume they didn't really want to communicate with me. The point is not to limit YOURSELF with whatever label you choose to ascribe to yourself at a particular time because you can be more or less than that if you choose to be. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted September 20, 2007 09:20 PM
MoonWitch 
You expressed the way I feel about this far more eloquently and succinctly than I!
I salute thee!  ------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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posted September 20, 2007 11:36 PM
Quote:The point is not to limit YOURSELF with whatever label you choose to ascribe to yourself at a particular time because you can be more or less than that if you choose to be. This works great only when others are recieving and seeing these same points of view (LABELS), but when other's are still using old tic tacs, old labels, patterns and programs from ones past, to keep drilling ones point of view, I think one is being Pigion holed and left no room to expand or grow, to learn different ways of thinking and living ones life. Sh!t, when one is Happy, Joyful, Excited, living life, enjoying it, having fun, sharing all these things with other's, they are called a FAKE, LIAR, PAINTED ON, told that they haven't done any of there inner work, are still hiding behind the positve things, ways of thinking and happy go lucky people, then getting accused of only grabbing onto the good things in life, the things that lift another's spirit is wrong??? That one must be miss leading others with there way of sharing happiness and joy and that it's this kind of thinking and behaviour's that will only end up killing you or other's. Sorry can't agree or buy into that. So if others would like to deem this as something bad, fake, painted on, wearing rose coloured glasses, not going inside and doing ones inner work, so then " BE IT " see it as it maybe to you. I have already spend 42yrs of living in the downward slide of others always trying to hold on to their aches and pains and sad past stories in life and thinking these still have to be heard felt, feed and bought up as a means of learning and healing ones-ELF to still grow. Now thats funny!!! I've lived that all my life, so I Am lead to believe now that I've got enough of that way of thinking and dealings stored up, to last one a life time. Don't need to worry so much about my Happiness, I can still see the forest, for the SH!T and I think thats what p!ss others off sometimes. Add it up, 42yrs of feeling sad for every ones misfortunes in life, to choosing and having a little more happiness in ones life!!! I Am 43 now!!! What you think I need all these past labels of who you think I Am, these reminders, a dose of all my past pain, and hurts of others just to make me feel and think better about mys-Elf and Other's. No, I don't believe this way of thinking to be good. Don't worry I haven't forget about were I've come from or what I lived or learned in 42yrs. The experience of it all doesn't allow me to present mys-elf this way. It has made me a better and given me mys-elf worth today because of it!!! It has giving me back my spirit in life and much needed balance!!! Also one does'nt have to worry about me being so happy all the time here, because lord knows I'm not like that all the time, but why should I come here and dump my past hurts and pains and aches out on the board and think thats what others want to hear from me and allow my-sELF to beieve that this way of thinking will make others and Mys-Elf feel better or happier. That way only breeds more sorrow and hurts. This Promotes S-elf petty parties!!! I Am a Happy Go Lucky Person most of the time now, because of the painful past lessons, but my past lessons are not who I Am and its not who I'm trying to grow up and be, to just be me and if that presents a problem for other's that I've get this much about mys-Elf and others, will then to me they are still living in their past and mine!!! IP: Logged |
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