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Topic: Seek the inner cause of problems!!!!
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ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 3844
From: Infinity
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 25, 2007 06:57 AM
 
Sorry for not offering anything positive at the moment. I must be disconnected from our 'true source' right now.In the Celestine Prophecy, it talks about how people rely on energy from each other, so when one of us feels hurt, their energy feels zapped in which they react to defend themselves- to protect their energy. It goes on to say that the way we rise above this is to reconnect with our true, infinite source (God) for energy, no longer relying on others for energy or feeling drained when others try to take ours. And it says the more we give, the more we will feel charged- like giving helps this energy flow through us.
But I would like to know is how exactly this is done- staying connected with God.
Perhaps when the kids are in bed later tonight, I will try to meditate on this, rather than jumping straight down to use this computer.  IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted September 25, 2007 08:39 AM
Mirandee said: quote:
You don't know both sides of the story.
He knows why you are so cranked at him, me, and Lotus. You really need to keep your family's personal problems from affecting how you treat folks.
I am not the only one who has wondered at your personality change of late. quote:
What you presented here is not true. I did not attack Fayte on that thread. I was directly honest her and told her that she has a behavior pattern
You did indeed attack me. Selective memory at work again? That is not an insult, you have indeed stated that you practice that, and even called it your nasty habit.
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I felt that we could work out whatever problems we had in private. I tried.
No you did not try...You told me you never wanted to speak to me again after I told you I needed time after what you did. I also told you I was recovering from a stroke and did not need the stress. You wanted not to talk it over but to push it under the rug. You attacked me out of the blue and yes the thread was deleted but not for the reasons you want folks to think.
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Now it is in the past and is mute because I made my decision based on what I felt was best for my well being.
Yes, you indicated that many times...the selective memory to avoid talking it over or apologizing for what you did. quote:
It is worked out between Fayte and myself because I made my choice.
Because you...not me..made a choice to not deal with it. I never had a say, you did not want to actually talk. Your concept of dealing with it was to
not discuss it and why you attacked me out of the blue. Why you gave me no respect but chose of all the strange times to attack me, during my recovering from a stroke I find odd. Why you badgered me to reply on your EVP thread when I told you I was not up to posting much due to the stroke, and then attacked me on that thread looks like it was a set up in retrospect to start a fight with me.
You delete Silverstone's post but let Solane attack as she sees fit over and over.
Not once have I seen you reprimand her directly. You have slandered and threatened Silverstone, Lotus and me on this thread and see nothing wrong with that?You changed Mirandee, something besides me is bothering you. Your nice e-mails suddenly ended and your attack begain. There is more but that is behind the scenes stuff, but suffice it to say who I make friends with or not is really not your business. ------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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SattvicMoon
Knowflake Posts: 2282
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Registered: May 2007
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posted September 25, 2007 08:41 AM
I guess all said and done - time to lock this thread! Keep cool everyone!------------------
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ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 3844
From: Infinity
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 25, 2007 08:55 AM
Indeed......I'm sorry I haven't had the time to go through everyone's posts here and there. I don't really know what is going on. All I can say, to everybody,
is this: Please try not to be down on yourselves or let others bring you down. If it seems impossible for certain people to see eye to eye with each other right now, I think it would be a very good idea to give each other some space and leave it at that. It is important to hold onto our own sense of self-esteem. That way, it doesn't matter what others think.
However, it must surely hurt when people who have been friends for a while can't get on any more. So please, give each other some space. Take a break. Try and see things differently. And forgive. 
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It would be nice to evolve some sort of telethapy of the heart; empathy. A feeling, knowing inside how we are all interconnected. Empathy/ love would be a a law in itself IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted September 25, 2007 09:36 AM
LTT  You are nice.{{{hugs}}}
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it must surely hurt when people who have been friends for a while can't get on any more.
Yes it does hurt. Especially when I am not sure why I was attacked out of the blue and denied a chance to get to the bottom of it and find out why she did it. An apology from the attacking party and being told to forget it because they have and they forgive me...
HUH?Forgive me? Forget what they did? And then tell me when I ask for time to get past my stroke and the hurt they unjustly out of the blue inflicted....that they never want to speak to me again? But then continue to speak to me unkindly.
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So please, give each other some space. Take a break.
I asked for a break..for time to get past the hurt, to recover from my stroke, to wait under her daughter got moved out, to wait until she is ready to really talk, not sweep what she did and why under the rug. She refused not me. quote:
Try and see things differently.
That is impossible when the other refuses to give a time out and talk not deny it all, at a later time. quote:
And forgive.
I did, but still want to know why she suddenly flipped out on me after over a year of being friends.
Yeah it hurts but she does not want to see that and talk, not deny. I was the one attacked, not her...yet I was the one who wanted to talk, "after a time out".....and she refused. She was the one who publicly said out of the blue the friendship is over, she is the one who said she never wanted to speak to me again and said she choses to forget it all. Not exactly her giving any room for further negotiations now is it? Nor needed time for her to calm down, and let me recover from the shock and the stroke, and get her daughter moved out and so forth and then talk. I think it is too far gone now to salvage. But would appreciate her not showing favoritism to Solane and allowing her to repeatedly attack, and would appreciate her backing off me...she stated she has terminated the friendship and does not want to talk. So be it. ------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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bleakbeauty
Knowflake Posts: 495
From: Australia
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted September 25, 2007 09:58 AM
A POEM 4 fayte...I see your smile
I know your mind
No words need be said
I understand.
Focused on each other
We listen and we care
Laughter ripples like water
Together, we are.
Others are here, yes,
And we value them, yes,
But a special bond remains,
A line between us two.
Each friendship is special
Each is unique
And so is ours
We know.
And then time begins to roll
and rear it’s ugly head
Change begins
Now a little less than before.
Slowly, surely,
Not knowing why
Faster, stronger, without care
Our world shifts and shimmers and splits.
Shattered shards cascade down
Spurred by angry, lashing words
Contorted faces, stone deaf ears
Outside the whirlwind,
We die inside.
The scars run deep
Jagged clefts in our souls
We have suceeded in hurting
And hurt ourselves.
So you move on
And I remain
We keep on living
Turn our faces apart.
Now I glance across
At you from outside
Shaded eyes dry with tears
New friends, new life.
Laughter, smiling (clenched teeth)
The flippant toss of the head
The enclosure surrounds you
I cannot come near.
From behind my glass window
I know more than those within
I see the hurt in your eyes
I know the pain in your smile
I have been there before - I love you
Why do you pretend?
I hate to see your pain
And I cry inside
Tears deep within my soul
I cannot help you anymore.
What we had once
We can never have again.
The scars run deep,
But I still care.
You were my friend.
http://www.friendship.com.au/poetry/broken/broken3.html#lost
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fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted September 25, 2007 10:03 AM
Additionally....she never bothered to tell me privately she was upset with me. Her nice e-mails suddenly stopped and I came into LL to find her attacking me. That was the first notice I had from her...nothing private first.
I never saw it coming....no warning at all...just a sudden public trashing from her and judging and ridiculing. The only commonality to prior troubles I could see was Solane was again sticking her nose into other folk's private matters as she has done before to stir up trouble and drama. It is very hard to try talk things out when a hornet is in the middle stinging everyone into a frenzy.
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"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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naiad
Knowflake Posts: 1645
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Registered: Sep 2006
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posted September 25, 2007 10:03 AM
Listens ~  sending love and light to you sister.... the entire universe is your support system. let yourself feel her enveloping arms aorund. you always have good spirits watching over and guiding you. trust, open, and listen to your heart. blessings. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted September 25, 2007 10:10 AM
bleakbeauty 
I am crying my heart out at that poem you posted.
Oh how eloquently and oh so very very very perfectly your poem has put into words EXACTLY WHAT I AM FEELING AND THINKING! 
So poignant, so bitter sweet, so very very very true.
God Bless you for posting that, God bless you for understanding.
I need to go have a good cleansing cry now.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart and soul. ------------------
"Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!"
~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
Everything changes.
Fear not the changes.
"My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!"
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SattvicMoon
Knowflake Posts: 2282
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Registered: May 2007
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posted September 25, 2007 10:13 AM
Forget and Forgive - easy said than done!
I believe this crisis whatsoever would give a chance to whoever involved to learn and ascertain. Perhaps the problems what is outside is not what it seems to be - as is the case in almost all problems in life.
and Fayte, the tears are great soothing tool
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silverstone
Moderator Posts: 2620
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Registered: Mar 2006
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posted September 25, 2007 11:44 AM
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When I volunteered to be moderator at FFA I stated that I would attempt to stop the name calling and personal attacks on people here and I meant it. I still mean it.
Practice what you preach. You should be the role-model in this matter; instead, you are guilty of this yourself, so, indeed, it's somewhat ironic and stupid for you to say that. But then again, you are older and wiser, right?  IP: Logged | |
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