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lotusheartone
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posted September 25, 2007 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Since Mirandee and Zala, have become moderators, entire topics are being deleted, posts are being deleted, and strings closed..

Has this ever happened in so much abundance here at Lindaland? Freedom of Speech, where is it?

Will I wake up in the morning, to see more things have been deleted, and locked up?

Things happen for a reason, and you two trying to control everything is not helping, the issues will re-surface, so I think a new approach is required, cause this isn't working for me, and perhaps I won't post in Free For ALL anymore, because of censorship.

Just my thoughts!

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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Xodian
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posted September 25, 2007 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
One has to take into mind the productive nature of such posts. Do they actually hellp solving a problem out or just lead topic down a more chaotic road with nothing but mud-slinging and baseless accusitions.

It has been happening quite a lot around here and insted of actually having a discussion on topic, people are flipping their lids and adding in personal rediric that really has no point to be added in a post in the first place.

I say its about time we had a bit of moderator control.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 25, 2007 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sure it's all part of God's plan!

and things will be worked out, one way or another.

Everything happens for a reason!

It's about the big picture, not just this little one at Free For All. ...

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SattvicMoon
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posted September 25, 2007 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Lotus, it is with much grief that I am saying that I am seeing a very different you of late! Either you are confused to no end, or you are fighting with some serious issues!

You say everything happens for a reason, and then you start complaining as well!

Freedom of speech eh? Does that mean anyone is free to speak anything with lack of respect for one another? if that is what freedom of speech for a person, I would seriously doubt their intention!

I guess it in the power of Moderating staff that things needs to be done what they deem right, and if members have any issues, I believe it sould be talked in private, or perhaps with the board administrators whatsoever!

These kind of posts, is merely an act of FLAMING the board.

Of late another funny scenario that is going on is that a people are taking a few words out of some posts and making a mountain out a mole.

Well, just because I voiced my opinion, and just because it doesn;t suit one thought process - I don't mind if I am labeled a rebel or a moron.

But the bottom line is that certain people NEED to re-think on their strategies.

Good luck one and all......

Love and Reverence to only those who deserve!

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Xodian
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posted September 25, 2007 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
The bigger picture means actually having a conversation in coherency with the the topic. God helps those who help themselves but in this case people really don't care about self-moderation. If they did, they would know that subjectivity is just that; Subjectivity. Its one thing to argue another point on the matter; Baselessly accusing someone of some deed that you yourself or anyone else has no idea about isn't productive; Nor is it warrented for.

So if people won't moderate themselves like adults, its time someone did the moderating.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 25, 2007 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Sattvic Moon, you said LOve and Reverence to only those who deserve it, all deserve it, no one is excluded..

You are not me, you don't know my mission and purpose, but I do, and everything I do is with guidance from God.

Sometimes, disruption is needed to bring change, I can't expect you to understand this..cause obviously you don't..

Each person here is doing exactly what they need to be doing for Learning and Growing..it's all for a purpose and the big picture.

Censorship, is not going to help!

Things must be worked through..the hardest road has the most rewards, as long as you keep taking the easy road, you'll never get to where you are going!

I LOve that you all come at me, and put me down, and think you know so much more..but the Truth is..
I am connected, and no one can take that away from me, an inner peace always exists, because I know why, and can see the probabilities...

So, go on and bash me, it just shows you are hypocrites and don't understand why you do what you do..
at least I know what I am doing!

LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...

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Xodian
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posted September 25, 2007 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
There ya go again... Playing the victim.

No one is bashing you; Just trying to tell you what has been aparent to the rest of us all along. Censorship isn't the issue and the bigger picture you speak of can only surfce if the rediric is actually cut off from the real message of the post. Faith is one thing; Using it as a shield to justify unwarrented behavior only points to the bigger problem with the world.

Distruption is needed true but it has to lead to some sort of constructive ending. However from what I have noticed around here, it rarely does leads to that ending; only more mud-slinging and lasting grudges.

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SattvicMoon
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posted September 25, 2007 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
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Censorship, is not going to help!

Weeding keeps the garden neat and attractive, but the weeds never realize!

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Things must be worked through..the hardest road has the most rewards, as long as you keep taking the easy road, you'll never get to where you are going!

??? !!! ??? what road with regards to the discussions and the moderation of the board?

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I LOve that you all come at me, and put me down, and think you know so much more..but the Truth is..

...obvious

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I am connected, and no one can take that away from me, an inner peace always exists, because I know why, and can see the probabilities...

Everyone are connected to something, the only issue is what is positive or negative, what is generative, or degenerative!


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So, go on and bash me, it just shows you are hypocrites and don't understand why you do what you do..

Thank you for enlightening me Lotus

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at least I know what I am doing!

The issue is that only u know - no one else do know what you are doing!

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LOve and Reverence to ALL. ...


...... who deserve!

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lotusheartone
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posted September 25, 2007 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
If you could see clearly, you would see, that everything is unfolding just as it should, that each new day, brings new learning, and that no one, no one can control, the big web, the connection we all have to one another..for each must come to know, SEE and HEAR Truth..then we can all work together, but there is certainly alot of karma that needs to be worked out, before we get to that point!

Let the tapestry weave itSelf..do not try to control it, for if you do, you'll just get a big knot in it!

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lotusheartone
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posted September 25, 2007 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
weeds, sattvic moon, are removed, so we will associate that with banning people, which is not what we are talking about, but we can if you want to!

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lotusheartone
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posted September 25, 2007 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Perhaps this string is for all of you that have a problem with me, no matter what I say and do, you follow me around to make your insulting comments, well, here you can just ask me whatever is on your mind and bothering you, about me...
one question at a time please...

and we may be running out of time, this string might be locked up soon, who knows!? It's a probability, that was shone to me, hehe

LOve to ALL. ...

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SattvicMoon
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posted September 25, 2007 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
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weeds, sattvic moon, are removed, so we will associate that with banning people, which is not what we are talking about, but we can if you want to!

The problem, here, is self-evident! As I mentioned in the first post in this thread, the words are taken out of context mostly and this is a classic example.

With weeds, I refered the discussions and posts that are out of topic or out of context, but you took it as members! Moderators do not ban any members, administrators do that, we were talking about moderating this board.

It is all in our mind, isn't it? With your words, you are even talking about banning members, and now you were the one whining about free speech, funny or ironic?

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Azalaksh
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posted September 25, 2007 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
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So if people won't moderate themselves like adults, its time someone did the moderating.
Amen, Xod

There's a big difference between "freedom of speech" and indulging in personal slurs, lotus.....

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Xodian
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posted September 25, 2007 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
*Sigh* See Lotus THIS is why people say you usually don't have a cinch of clue about the reality of the situation (and again I am not bashing you; Just trying to make you see the logic in it all.)

Constructive critisism should actually be constructive but getting too tied up with bashing up things and getting too emotional on a situation only leads to discord, not tapestries. Treat the tread like an objective oriented question. You ahve been asked a quesiton, answer it without adding in too much subjectivity. Opiions are like butholes; We all have one and they all stink. Weaving tapestries and bashing up another person on baseless accusitions aren't at all the same thing now aren't they. I am all up for the ideas of tough love but we are all adults here and we are responsible for our own actions.

If you come off as a sodding, extremist lunitic, you will get the unwarrented resposes from others. If you ACTUALLY CLEARLY place your stance without too much subjective retiric you might just get the message across quite clear.

Do you understand what I am getting at?

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Dulce Luna
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posted September 25, 2007 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
I definitely agree with Sattvic and Xodian: its about time there is some sort of control here with all the flaming, personal agendas, and such. So kudos to both of them for a job well done.

They do it on another forum I goto and I notice the effects: its good.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 25, 2007 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
twisting and turning things doesn't change anything Sattvic Moon, good try though!

Let people talk, and discuss and argue, you are not God, I am not God, but all together we are God.

The Big Picture..

You still don't understand what I am saying, and that is obvious, take your time, let God guide you..and then perhaps we will have a constructive conversation.

LOve to ALL. ...

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SattvicMoon
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posted September 25, 2007 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
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Perhaps this string is for all of you that have a problem with me, no matter what I say and do, you follow me around to make your insulting comments, well, here you just ask me whatever is on your mind and bothering you about me...
one question at a time please...

The problem is not YOU or I or any PERSON, but the discussions we are having - there is a big difference. If you don't want people to follow you, perhaps you may need to stop posting altogether, so long you make posts on this board or any board, people who are active do make replies, and just because they don't agree with your views, doesn't mean they are following you around. What problem do you think I have against you? Nothing, nothing at all, think about it my friend. But if you are refering to your latest comments and posts, yes, I see a BIG 180 degree turn with yoyr attitude with regards to LindaLand and the posts you make. Nothing wrong with it either, just that people disagree!

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posted September 25, 2007 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
This sounds to me like the same old argument about "What is Truth" (aka, WHOSE Truth).....

May I please remind you lotus (since you have complained that I am always nitpicking you and have never supported you) that YOUR Truth is not MY Truth. Yes we may agree on some Truths, but what you broadcast as *THE* Truth is not always Truth to everyone else.....

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lotusheartone
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posted September 25, 2007 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Sattvic Moon, you do have a problem with me, you have been talking about me in private emails with people from here, God shows me, so don't act so innocent!

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SattvicMoon
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posted September 25, 2007 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Keep cool Lotus, I have said what I have to, and I don't like to go round in circles, neither would I.

When you have issues with the moderating staff, what is the point in making a open thread and whining about it? What can an ordinary member in this board do about it except the Administrator? Either you shoould have contacted the webmaster or how can you blame if one infers that you had an inferior agenda for starting this thread in the first place?

On a side note, in all the concerned threads, many people have linked to ANCIENT (yes I mean it) threads and posts just to make a point - so that means, the issue was not in the thread at hand, but in some outdated, inactive threads - getting carried over to cause trouble for other members too!

Insanity?

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posted September 25, 2007 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
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This sounds to me like the same old argument about "What is Truth" (aka, WHOSE Truth).....
May I please remind you lotus (since you have complained that I am always nitpicking you and have never supported you) that YOUR Truth is not MY Truth. Yes we may agree on some Truths, but what you broadcast as *THE* Truth is not always Truth to everyone else.....

I like to use the analogy of a broken pot. Say I take a pot and I smash it to bits and gave a piece of it to everyone. Now anyone whose holding that piece can definately say that they are holding the pot; Its not a lie... its definately a piece of the pot. But its not the whole pot now is it?

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lotusheartone
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posted September 25, 2007 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
what the pot is made of remains, in each piece, each piece is made of clay,
each of us is made of stardust, it's all our truth, just like the clay piece we are all holding!

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SattvicMoon
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posted September 25, 2007 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
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Sattvic Moon, you do have a problem with me, you have been talking about me in private emails with people from here, God shows me, so don't act so innocent!

Either you are paranoid or you are relating to things that YOU personally do - basic psychology, can't help it! But it takes more than that to unsettle me my friend (sorry to call you one in the current circumstances, I know you don't see me as one).

And if at all I have done it why would it bother you? You started this thread worried about Free Speech, eh? Irony strikes again!

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lotusheartone
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posted September 25, 2007 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
I spoke the truth moonie..and that is all I have to say, I do not lie, for it would come back to me, I am very blunt, speak my mind, I don't play games, and I don't talk about other people behind their backs!

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posted September 25, 2007 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
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what the pot is made of remains, in each piece, each peice is made of clay,
each of us is made of stardust, it's all our truth, just like the clay piece we are all holding!

Yes! Its YOUR truth! Your own personal POV and your own biased view. But it isn't THE truth; It isn't THE pot itself; Just a small distorted piece of it. Can you actually picture the shape of the whole pot from that one piece? Offcourse not. You need others and inorder to get them you need to be willing to listen; NOT bash and add retoric in the mix.

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