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Topic: ok, OMG Jay I get it, I will kill my snake
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OMG Jay Knowflake Posts: 360 From: Registered: Sep 2007
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posted September 27, 2007 07:57 PM
There is no such thing as God.No real LOVING GOD would make this crap worl what it is now. Stop following false Gods.
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NAM Knowflake Posts: 1995 From: Sunny place. Registered: Jan 2007
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posted September 27, 2007 08:05 PM
now we are getting to the root of the problem quote: There is no such thing as God. No real LOVING GOD would make this crap worl what it is now. Stop following false Gods
I am not going to preach to you and tell you who God is but there is obviously something out there. Sounds like you have a lot of issues in your life and need something to beleive in. It's ok... I think this is why most of us we are here.
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Happy Dragon Knowflake Posts: 2886 From: Registered: Apr 2005
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posted September 27, 2007 08:07 PM
for snake lovers ..~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Stevens ~ .. seen many of his snake docu.s' on the tele .. but .. .. i would have never guessed this guy's a taurean .. :-) .. ( 19th may 1950 ) .. ~ http://www.animalplanetasia.com/austin_stevens/interview/index.shtml ~ ~ http://animal.discovery.com/fansites/austinstevens/videogallery/videogallery.html ~ IP: Logged |
goatgirl Knowflake Posts: 954 From: Anywhere Registered: Jul 2002
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posted September 27, 2007 08:15 PM
quote: No real LOVING GOD would make this crap worl what it is now.
I would have to agree with you there OMG. I think it's the result of human beings who forget WHO they really are, and are sometimes self-absorbed, selfish, greedy. Though there are human beings who are gentle, kind, and loving. What kind of energy do you want to send out into the world? "Be the change you want to see in the world." "Vision is perhaps our greatest strength ...it has kept us alive to the power and continuity of thought through the centuries, it makes us peer into the future and lends shape to the unknown." --Li Ka Shing "You can never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." --Buckminister Fuller Peace. GG ------------------ The good life, as I conceive it, is a happy life. I do not mean that if you are good you will be happy - I mean that if you are happy you will be good. ~ Bertrand Russell IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri Knowflake Posts: 2560 From: Never Never Land Registered: Oct 2006
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posted September 27, 2007 08:40 PM
LMAOOO NAM!!P.S. ur snake is still beautiful and i still love it Hey guys lets all stop following our religions and give up our false Gods and follow the great prophetess OJ instead... IP: Logged |
OMG Jay Knowflake Posts: 360 From: Registered: Sep 2007
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posted September 27, 2007 08:45 PM
Yes something out there. So don't say God. You haven't seen it!Zionists suck. IP: Logged |
bleakbeauty Knowflake Posts: 495 From: Australia Registered: Jun 2005
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posted September 27, 2007 09:03 PM
What a riot!  OMG Jay said: Be very careful what you say without doing your research. _____________________________________________ And then OMG Jay says:
There is no such thing as God. _____________________________________________ I guess you have researched this?
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MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 3521 From: Registered: Dec 2005
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posted September 27, 2007 09:09 PM
quote: Stop following false Gods.
Like Walt Disney? IP: Logged |
NAM Knowflake Posts: 1995 From: Sunny place. Registered: Jan 2007
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posted September 27, 2007 09:28 PM
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OMG Jay wrote: Yes something out there. So don't say God. You haven't seen it!
I like your attitude, you love to get into people's faces and take no BS, that is good but before you do that you must know who you are talking to and how you relate and communicate with that person and the rest, because instead of people listening to you and giving you the time of teh day they will just turn you off if you are not a bit more delicate with your words. Perhaps you should know that we share same principals,I love animals as you do,I am puzzled about what to do with my snake when providing him with food but I don't have a choice, and I don't beleive in God, but I do beleive in something out there, something that YOU have not seen and I have not seen. You can call it either:Universe,Energy,a divine creature or perhaps a group of them , maybe me and you are part of this creation and are co-creators... we just don't know, but I hope for your own sake that you do or eventually will beleive in something because I have been that route where nothing made sense and I lost faith in everything and it is not pretty. So, why don't you just sit back , relax and enjoy the journey, make your own decisions for yourself be happy and share happiness. Isn't this a little better than trying to pick fights with other people that are also here in search of a better life? ok, rant over and I am done. IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri Knowflake Posts: 2560 From: Never Never Land Registered: Oct 2006
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posted September 27, 2007 10:02 PM
Nam - i was wondering what your snake is like? I was very surprised to find out that my friend's lizard had an amazing personality. She would cuddle on my friends stomach when she slept and would always come near and kinda touch her. Unless she was mad then she would avoid her and walk away. Like one time she accidently stepped on its tail, she was mad at her for a bit. So in the pic it looks like ur snake is reaching to you. Thats cool. Id love to hear more IP: Logged |
aqua inferno Knowflake Posts: 1106 From: hopping about Europe Registered: Oct 2006
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posted September 28, 2007 12:55 AM
ffs haven't we f'ed up the lives of animals enough?Fayte!! IP: Logged |
aqua inferno Knowflake Posts: 1106 From: hopping about Europe Registered: Oct 2006
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posted September 28, 2007 12:57 AM
"Gods and follow the great prophetess OJ instead..."orange juice? **you mean omg jay  Even when I was going through my atheist phase, I never put down anyone's God  btw what's the word for believing in God but not following any religions? Can't quite remember what it is. For some reason agnostic keeps popping into mind :/ IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 3844 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 28, 2007 05:16 AM
quote: Nam - i was wondering what your snake is like? I was very surprised to find out that my friend's lizard had an amazing personality. She would cuddle on my friends stomach when she slept and would always come near and kinda touch her. Unless she was mad then she would avoid her and walk away. Like one time she accidently stepped on its tail, she was mad at her for a bit. So in the pic it looks like ur snake is reaching to you. Thats cool. Id love to hear more
 Snakes are beautiful, despite their eating habits.  I love cats, but cats hunt and can be cruel. But I know it's not their fault. When they are caught up in these actions, they are not thinking to themselves how they are a part of these creatures or imagining what these creatures could be going through. No. They have no perception of this. "Only when the doors of perception are cleansed..... will we see things as they truly are- infinite".
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Swerve Knowflake Posts: 1249 From: London Registered: Nov 2002
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posted September 28, 2007 05:28 AM
I also, like OMG Jay, find it hard to reconcile the laws of nature and an all-loving God. Perhaps the point wasn't put across gently, but why should it be?You're all big enough to handle that. I've seen far worse on here before, and much more specific attacks on beliefs. I was a vegetarian for 9 years and now am eating meat again. I just realised that you are fighting a tide that is too strong, plus it wasn't doing me any good, I felt weaker than before. Even my own body was telling me to eat meat I believe. So, nature IS set up that way OMG Jay, its a shame but it is. If you step back far enough from humanity and take an objective look, you'll see clear as day that dog-eat-dog (animal - eat - animal) game being played out in a much more complicated way. Survival of the fittest. Its a powerful but ulitmately cold route that nature took. You cannot fight it. If you follow your logic through it would mean creating an entire food supply, maintaining species numbers and environments, changing their natures so that they became domesticated to a degree. Is this desirable? Could it be done? We really would accept the mantle of God then as a species, and lets face it we've done a terrible job of controlling our own species so far. You may have to let this go to a degree and just be responsible for yourself. I understand the pain of feeling powerless to change what is perceived as extreme cruelty, but you as one person can change nothing, and unlike a human political or spirtual movement where a pebble can cause a ripple across an entire ocean, this is fighting the entire set-up of the planet, nature and whatever lies beyond. Beliefs spring from this to give people a foothold, handhold, anything that can give them a way to make sense of how it is. The problem is, we are still a very primitive species and know NOTHING beyond our own planet, absolutely nothing. It's 100% guesswork, myth and speculation. Only when we have a real understanding of the universe from more than just the human angle will we be better equipped to evaluate the way things are. If we are around to see it. Swerve IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 3844 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 28, 2007 05:53 AM
You are thinking in 3-D.Science has already made remarkable discoveries, how it is all linked, but it still isn't out there in the 'mainstream' enough. Is this really all there is? Or are we just being narrow-minded? Are we caught in prisons of our own device? I'll just go and 'grab' something. IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 3844 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 28, 2007 05:54 AM
Proof DNA Can Repair Itself Via 'Emotions' DNA REPORT by Greg Braden 3 Astonishing Experiments and Choosing a Different Timeline Below are three astonishing experiments with DNA which proves that DNA can heal itself according to the "feelings" of the individual as reported recently by Gregg Braden. In his recent program entitled Healing Hearts/Healing Nations: The Science of Peace and the Power of Prayer, Gregg Braden discussed how in the past we lost huge amounts of information from ancient spiritual traditions (when the library at Alexandria burned we lost at least 532,000 documents), and that there may be information in those traditions which could help us understand some of the mysteries of science. To this end he reported on three very interesting experiments. Gregg Braden started off as a scientist and engineer, before he began pursuing these larger questions. EXPERIMENT Number 1 The first experiment reported was done by Dr.Vladimir Poponin, a quantum biologist. In this experiment, first a container was emptied (i.e. a vacuum was created within it), and then the only thing left photons (particles of light) they measured the distribution (ie the location) of the photons and found they were completely random inside the container. This was the expected result. Then some DNA was placed inside the container and the distribution (location) of the photons was remeasured. This time the photons were LINED UP in an ORDERED way and aligned with the DNA. In other words the physical DNA had an effect on the non- physical photons. After that, the DNA was removed from the container, and the distribution of the photons was measured again. The photons REMAINED ORDERED and lined up where the DNA had been. What are the light particles connected to? Gregg Braden says we are forced to accept the possibility that some NEW field of energy, a web of energy, is there and the DNA is communicating with the photons through this energy. EXPERIMENT Number 2 These were experiments done by the military. Leukocytes (white blood cells) were collected for DNA from donors and placed into chambers so they could measure electrical changes. In this experiment, the donor was placed in one room and subjected to "emotional stimulation" consisting of video clips, which generated different emotions in the donor. The DNA was placed in a different room in the same building. Both the donor and his DNA were monitored and as the donor exhibited emotional peaks or valleys (measured by electrical responses), the DNAexhibited the IDENTICAL RESPONSES AT THE EXACT SAME TIME. There was no lag time, no transmission time. The DNA peaks and valleys EXACTLY MATCHED the peaks and valleys of the donor in time. The military wanted to see how far away they could separate the donor from his DNA and still get this effect. They stopped testing after they separated the DNA and the donor by 50 miles and STILL had the SAME result. No lag time; no transmission time. The DNA and the donor had the same identical responses in time. What can this mean? Gregg Braden says it means that living cells communicate through a previously unrecognized form of energy. This energy is not affected by time and distance. This is a non-local form of energy, an energy that already exists everywhere, all the time. EXPERIMENT Number 3 The third experiment was done by the Institute of Heart Math and the paper that was written about this was titled: Local and Non local Effects of Coherent Heart Frequencies on Conformational Changes of DNA. (Disregard the title! The info is incredible.) This is the experiment that relates directly to the anthrax situation. In this experiment, some human placenta DNA (the most pristine form of DNA) was placed in a container from which they could measure changes in the DNA. Twenty-eight vials of DNA were given (one each) to 28 trained researchers. Each researcher had been trained how to generate and FEEL feelings, and they each had strong emotions. What was discovered was that the DNA CHANGED ITS SHAPE according to the feelings of the researchers: 1. When the researchers FELT gratitude, love and appreciation, the DNA responded by RELAXING and the strands unwound. The length of the DNA became longer. 2. When the researchers FELT anger, fear, frustration, or stress, the DNA responded by TIGHTENING UP. It became shorter and SWITCHED OFF many of our DNA codes! If you've ever felt "shut down" by negative emotions, now you know why your body was equally shut down too. The shut down of the DNA codes was reversed and the codes were switched back on again when feelings of love, joy, gratitude and appreciation were felt by the researchers. This experiment was later followed up by testing HIV positive patients. They discovered that feelings of love, gratitude and appreciation created 300,000 TIMES the RESISTANCE they had without those feelings. So here's the answer to what can help you stay well, no matter what dreadful virus or bacteria may be floating around. Stay in feelings of joy, love, gratitude and appreciation! These emotional changes went beyond the effects of electro-magnetics. Individuals trained in deep love were able to change the shape of their DNA. Gregg Braden says this illustrates a new recognized form of energy that connects all of creation. This energy appears to be a TIGHTLY WOVEN WEB that connects all matter. Essentially we're able to influence this web of creation through our VIBRATION. SUMMARY: What do the results of these experiments have to do with our present situation? This is the science behind how we can choose a timeline to stay safe, no matter what else is happening. As Gregg explains in The Isaiah Effect, basically time is not just linear (past, present and future), but it also has depth. The depth of time consists of all the possible prayers and timelines that could ever be prayed or exist. Essentially, all our prayers have already been answered. We just activate the one we're living through our FEELINGS. THIS is how we create our reality - by choosing it with our feelings. Our feelings are activating the timeline via the web of creation, which connects all of the energy and matter of the Universe. Remember that the law of the Universe is that we attract what we focus on. If you are focused on fearing whatever may come, you are sending a strong message to the Universe to send you whatever you fear. Instead if you can get yourself into feelings of joy, love, appreciation or gratitude, and focus on bringing more of that into your life, you are going to avoid the negative stuff automatically. You will be choosing a different TIMELINE with your feelings. You can prevent getting anthrax or any other flu, virus, etc, by staying in these positive feelings, which maintains an incredibly strong immune system. So here's your protection for whatever comes: Find something to be happy about every day, and every hour if possible,moment-to-moment, even if only for a few minutes. This is the easiest and Best Protection You Can Have. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6UTGkC73GE IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 3844 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 28, 2007 05:58 AM
Another good link. http://www.livingthefield.com/ Some inspiring films:
 Don't give up hope yet. This is just the beginning. IP: Logged |
Swerve Knowflake Posts: 1249 From: London Registered: Nov 2002
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posted September 28, 2007 06:19 AM
LTT - these are suggestions of more science, more understanding of the world and how it works.This proves how much we do not know, and may never know. We are bound by our own evolution because we are isolated. We cannot take this info and come to a real conclusion about God or anything outside of this ever-increasing but ultimately limited knowledge. For instance, the Greeks and the Romans created a pantheon of Gods based on the laws of nature so that they intertwined beautifully with the world around them giving them more resonance and making it much easier to believe. Do you know anyone who takes those Gods seriously anymore (besides Hollywood directors)? That goes for all the other Gods there have ever been, including the current and most popular ones. You cannot personalise the unknown. You can however peel away at the universe and investigate what is really going on slowly over time as you have shown above. Swerve IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 3844 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 28, 2007 06:26 AM
 "Come ride with me, Through the veins of history, I'll show you how god, Falls asleep on the job.And how can we win, When fools can be kings, Don't waste your time, Or time will waste you"-Muse "The world is like a ride in an amusement park and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and around and around and it has thrills and chills and it's very brightly coloured and it's very loud. And it's fun - for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question; is this real? Or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, and they say, "Hey, don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because... this is just a ride."- Bill Hicks IP: Logged |
Swerve Knowflake Posts: 1249 From: London Registered: Nov 2002
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posted September 28, 2007 06:32 AM
I'm not so sure about this either LTT, because there are times in life saying something like life is a ride to people would be just about the cruelest thing possible.Parents that have lost children, victims of abuse and torture, honest people that have lost everything to dishonest people. Many many times where that would almost be insulting however well intentioned. If you examine reality with that kind of outlook you have to bring Heaven, Hell and normal life into the mix to analyse completely (figuratively speaking obviously ) Swerve IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 3844 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 28, 2007 06:36 AM
They haven't lost anything, companionship, yes, but the person hasn't "died" because our body is not who we really are.But yes, life is very painful at times. But who is in control.....of the nature of our reality, that is? Perhaps we just assume we are powerless?
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Swerve Knowflake Posts: 1249 From: London Registered: Nov 2002
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posted September 28, 2007 06:50 AM
See I've gone down those roads before, and its a comforting way to think.But ultimately its all assumption, how could it be anything else. A child of 3 that is abused is very much powerless in that moment. To think its part of a beautiful larger picture that would make the child understand if only it remembered in infinity is for me wishful thinking at best. Humans are too pre-occupied with creating these imaginary versions of life (though some experiences may well be true, but still ultimately not enough to have a clear and full understanding) and the hereafter that they often are not putting all their efforts into making the reality they occupy at that moment the best it can be, or the best they can be. Religion is the very best example of this. Obviously doing both in a balanced way is the best option, you don't want to compeletly neglect what is outside of immediate understanding, but we hardly have the right balance do we? God for me is mostly an excuse, or sometimes a guideline based on already existing understanding dressed up as something mystical. edit to add: hope I'm not sounding like a meanie LTT, I appreciate your outlook.  Swerve
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fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9809 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted September 28, 2007 07:10 AM
Swerve & aqua inferno  ------------------ "Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!" ~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~ ~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~ ~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~ ~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~ Everything changes. Fear not the changes. "My body is physically disabled, but I am not my body nor am I its disabilities!" }><}}}(*> <*){{{><{ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 6485 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted September 28, 2007 07:30 AM
Swerve!!!! Glad to see you back  Your "voice" has certainly been missed.....Z IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 3844 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 28, 2007 07:31 AM
Swerve, I don't disagree.I feel it is all about balance too. I think this world is out of balance. We need "homeostastis" in the macrocosm as well as the microcosm. 
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