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Khaine
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posted October 04, 2007 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Khaine     Edit/Delete Message
im not getting enough help in teen spirit so i post it here to http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum14/HTML/000269.html

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Dervish
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posted October 04, 2007 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
It would help if we had more details. For example, how big is the school where you're at?

I know the advice you already got on saying what a beautiful day it was would work ok at one school I went to once, but would mark you as a geek in most circumstances at a much bigger school I also went to. Though a lot of the advice does sound good, under the right circumstances, and after adapting it to fit your specific school.

Also, do either of you belong to any specific cliques? If so, how do your social circles mix?

Do you share any classes? Are either of you involved in extracurriculars?

And can you explain more about how you've crushed on someone for 3 years and not gotten to know them at all? I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around that.

And one last thing. You say you're in 9th grade but also make it sound like you'll be separated by college soon. Is it that you're in 9th but SHE'S about to graduate high school?

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Khaine
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posted October 05, 2007 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Khaine     Edit/Delete Message
the separaiton thing is about that we might not go to the same college. this is sweden not us

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Dervish
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posted October 06, 2007 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, whatever. But being cryptic isn't helping you to get help.

Can you at least tell us why the advice offered you so far isn't helpful?

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yourfriendinspirit
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posted October 06, 2007 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yourfriendinspirit     Edit/Delete Message
Dervish, He's in 9th Grade.
He graduates in just 4 months.
In Sweden, this means college is Next year!


Swedish School System

I will now try to describe to you how the system works

Pre-school
Before starting school, it is customary for swedish kids to go to what they call "daghem" (dayhome), "förskola" (pre-school) or "dagis" (daycare). This is the equivalent of kindergarten, and usually contains little or no actual education. Some forms of pre-school include basic maths (count to 1000, add and subtract), reading and writing (the alphabet) as well as physical education. Children usually start pre-school once they're old enough to manage without constant parental attention, and stay in it until school starts.

Ages 6-8
It should be noted that not all kids start school at age 6 - some start at age 7. To simplify things, this write-up will work on the basis that school starts at age 6. Anyway, the first three years of school are called "lågstadiet" (the low stage), or the 1st, 2nd and 3rd "årskurserna" (grades) - this roughly represents the british primary school. Days are short, lessons are basic and teachers are nice. There are no grades, but kids who do very poorly or exceptionally well will have their parents notified of this fact. At the end of "lågstadiet", kids are expected to know basic maths (without the use of a calculator), be able to read and write proper Swedish and understand basic English, know a bit about the way things work, the world, space and so on. Computers are often used in the education.

Ages 9-11
This is where students are beginning to actually have their abilites tested beyond the "can do it/can't do it" stage. New subjects, such as "slöjd" (working with wood and cloth, as in carpenting and sewing) are introduced, and days start getting noticeably long. This is also when most kids decide that school is boring, and when the written tests start popping up, it doesn't get any better. These three years - called "mellanstadiet" (the middle stage) or the 4th, 5th and 6th "årskurserna" (grades). Now, students get basic sex ed as well as more science/technology and society-based subjects. Students learn to work in groups and in projects more and more. "Mellanstadiet" is also when students are allowed to customize part of their schedule by choosing from a list of subjects, and start learning one more language - usually French, German or Spanish.

Ages 12-14
The last bit of "grundskolan" (the basic school), these three years are called "högstadiet" (the high stage) and consist of the 7th, 8th and 9th "årskurs" (grade)
. Crafts and music get fewer hours now, and eventually disappear completely. PE however remains a constant presense in the curriculum, and continues like that for a few more years. "Högstadiet" introduces even more specialized subjects: Biology, chemistry, religion and even basic economics appear - although usually, the basics of these subjects have already been done in "mellanstadiet". Also, during the 9th grade, the students get to choose one of the most important decisions of their lives: What school to attend next and what kind of education to get there. Of course, to get the education you want you need to have good grades - these are given from 8th grade and onward, in the form of "IG": "icke godkänd" (not approved), "G": "godkänd" (approved), "VG": "väl godkänd" (well approved), and "MVG": "mycket väl godkänd" (very well approved). In "högstadiet", most of the work the students do is done in the style of projects, to prepare for the next stage, where virtually everything is done in projects and groups.

Ages 15-17 [U.S. Equivelency is College]
This part of school is actually not compulsory (the first 9 years are)
, but since most kids have fairly smart parents, and they are not yet old enough to do things without their parent's consent, like quit school -the vast majority of all children do go to school for three more years after "grundskolan". This bit, which can actually vary in length between two and 5-6 years, is called "gymnasiet" (the gymnasium). Here, students are divided into "linjer" (lines), "program" (programs) or "utbildningsvägar" (roads of education) - depending on what they want to become in the future. There are lines for aspiring cooks and hockey players as well as wider lines which focus on science, maths or economics and can lead to a large number of different jobs in the future. The most common programs are "naturvetenskapliga programmet" (nature/science program), "samhällsvetenskapliga programmet" (society/science program), "estetiska programmet" (esthetical program) and "internationell ekonomi" (international economy). Host schools also offer localized technology/maths add-ons and special lines directly aimed at certain professions. Here, subjects are replaced by courses - there's not just "Matematik" (Maths) on the schedule - there are the courses "Matematik A" (Maths A), B, C, D and onwards. Each individual student is given a great deal of freedom to choose which courses he wants to go and which he doesn't, however some are compulsory (this varies with each program). All programs usually include some advanced Swedish and English, 2nd language, 3rd language (optional; may be Russian, Latin, etc), semi-advanced maths (derivata, more or less complex equations, matrices, etc), physical education, one or more esthetical subjects (music/singing/arts/acting) and some more or less basic chemistry, religion, economics, politics and so on. Students are usually required to read a lot of books during these three years to expand their knowledge of litterature. The grades achieved during "gymnasiet" are vital when looking for a job, or higher education. "Gymnasiet" lasts for three years, called the 1st, 2nd and 3rd "ring" (rings) or "årskurserna" (grades).

Ages 18 and up
Now it's the choice of each teenager what he wants to do next. A lot of people go looking for jobs, but to get one on which one can live a good life (depending on your definition of "good", of course) a higher education is a must. Places of higher education in Sweden are called "högskolor" (high schools) or "Universitet" (universities), and they function pretty much like universities do all over the world; nothing particularly weird here. Some of the main universities and "högskolor" in Sweden are "Kungliga Tekniska Högskolan" (the Royal University of Science and Technology) and "Handelshögskolan" (The high school of commmerce". University lasts for 3-5 years.

It is, however, a fact of life in Sweden that every (male) at age 18-19 is required to undergo between 8 and 15 months of military service - hence, the higher education mentioned above is often put off for a year or two while the students learn to wage war. This is obligatory and those who don't want to are summarily thrown in jail for refusing. Naturally, people with handicaps or strange diseases are the exception. Women don't have to do it, but are allowed to if they want to.

Khaine, feel free to correct me if any of this is not spot on. Most of this information I can credit to a friend named Wilhelm Svenselius.


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Sendin' love your way,
"your friend in spirit"

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Dervish
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posted October 06, 2007 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
I understood that. But it doesn't help us to help him.

He's gotten plenty of help already. Why is it not good enough? What is he looking for?

I asked some questions that I thought might help me think of something that might help him. He only answered one question, perhaps the least important of all.

He wants help, or so he says, but he's working pretty hard to be sure he doesn't get it.

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Mirandee
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posted October 06, 2007 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
Khaine, I posted this at teen spirit too. Hope it is of some help.


It sounds like Khaine has a bit of a shyness problem around girls. Which I think is natural at his age.
Khaine, Just take a shot at it and talk to her. As Yourfriendinspirit told you just about any of those suggestions of talking to her are good.

What have you got to lose? Things that are meant to be will be. If she isn't responsive to you then you just have to accept that it wasn't meant to be.

If you don't talk to her you will always regret that you never tried to approach her and let it slip by. If she isn't responsive to you at least you will know you tried and it just wasn't meant to be.

At your age lots of girls will come and go in your life. Lots of opportunites. Some will work out for you and others won't. It's all a part of life. But you never know what might have happened if you never try.

It's the fear of rejection that we all face in life at all ages. I am quite sure that she faces the same fears. For all you know she may have liked you for all those years too and she was also too afraid to approach you.

My advice is to just give it a shot. Then at least you know you tried if it doesn't work for you. And keep in mind that the right girl will come along one of these days. What's meant to be will be.

Good luck. Maybe you can just tell her that you are bit shy but that you like her and would like to get to know her. Lots of girls like guys who are shy. I always did. Ask her out to a movie or something. The worse that can happen is that she will say no. That's not the end of the world.

Then just keep in mind that there are plenty of other girls that you will find attractive as time goes on who might say yes.

Hope that was helpful in some way. Best of luck to you!!!


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