posted November 08, 2008 11:16 PM         

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23, LOL, you should learn some basics..
((Don't take the following personal, use your Aqua Sun and Libra Moon with some objective logic, get rid of your Aries ASC for a moment, put your Aqua arrogance on hold for a moment, don't get impulsive to conclude something about me or 'astroscorp' too fast.. I am trying to help astroscorp))

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Oh how clever, a pre-emptive strike in order to make me look bad as if I will charge on the basis of listing my astro stats. I have always made a very conscious decision never to describe you and Scorpios on this website except this case because it was specifically related to the example provided and conversations I have had in relation to what I have observed in my mother's behaviour on another thread. I apologise if I have though. Of course you feel it's ok to pass ridiculous assertions on others.

Examples: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015929.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/019857.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/019855.html
(I admit there are interesting points in these second threads even if it is a two person study).

What you did above was a ploy to manipulate my public image and pre-determine my reaction to the situation. This is what my own mother does. I can see right through you. Manipulate the image before anything is done. You did this the first time you talked to me and you saw what reaction it created in me and deliberately did it to push my buttons to try and paint me in a false light. You try the same character assassination trick again on me. So there's my judgment on you.

Whilst your attacks are thinly veiled, you should realise that people can be compatible across the masculine-feminine polarity, which is what essentially people on the post have agreed with. You don't have a go at the them for their opinions do you? In fact, you've simply got it in for me. You simply want to raise a fight because I raised your name in order to make a point that everyone was different and that indeed astroscorp was different to you. You also picked a fight because I called your chart "extreme", you knew what I meant by it and you know that my chart is extreme too. Indeed, you're saying that I should be punished because in effect I told him to think out of the square and keep his mind open.

I am so tired of your insults, hypocritical and patronising behaviour. I know full well what is causing this but it is completely unrectifiable.

posted November 08, 2008 11:48 PM         

I'm not taking sides here, simply because it's not my place to get involved in this. I just don't want to see any newer forum members or astro novices get the wrong idea of 23 just because of disagreements.

23 and I have disagreed with each other, and I consider it part of the fun of learning. But I view her astro knowledge as being incredibly extensive, and I'll readily admit here that her knowledge very likely surpasses my own.

posted November 09, 2008 04:28 PM         

My problem is not with the arguing or the debating. As you say, it's fun and we do learn a lot from arguing. Also there are different ways to attack astrological problems and everyone has their own theory as to how to do it. I argue with people on here all the time. I argue with Lara a lot for example but I still think she's great.

My problem is how mblover does it. When there is a debate or argument, you keep what you say relevant to the argument and you argue directly on the point.

I feel every time I go near him, his purpose is to character assassinate or manipulate the argument. This not only is irrelevant to an argument, it's not fair. In fact it's rather dirty and shows a lack of respect to the opponent and to the argument itself. Comments like the above absolutely rile me (and he knows it's button pusher with me) because it's an indirect attempt to dissolve the argument and dismiss what I have to say before I've said it. It pre-supposes as to how I will react or what I feel/think about a situation. It's not relevant. So I'm in agreement with AG here.

I try to keep personal attacks outside of arguing with people on here but I do understand it can be very frustrating and it can come out sometimes. With the greatest of respect to him, he just doesn't know how to argue within the rules of the game. Anyway, this is an astrological forum, it's not the US congress.

AG - as always