posted November 12, 2008 07:16 PM         

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Btw, cheating in animals or primates is related to testes size as well.

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So basically when we meet a potential mate we should ask them to immediately drop their undies so that we can have a better idea as to their faithfullness.

posted November 12, 2008 07:19 PM         

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Selection of a mate is essential because they want fertile and viable offspring. Women cheat in order gain a better father for their offspring. If the other man is better than the partner, then the woman will cheat to gain the benefit of better genes and use the parter to raise the child. Win-win situation for the child. This is what cuckoos do with their eggs, lay it in other birds' nests.

Men cheat because their sperm is cheap and numerous. Their goal is to produce viable and fertile offspring and the way they do this is by trying fertilise as many females as possible that allow them to compete against each other and other successful males.

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23, where did you get that from?

Cant comment on the womens bit too much, you would know better, but spot on with the find better offspring and get the other guy to pay for it malarky. It is clever and obviously thinking of the child, but just wrong.

Mens (Their) goal is to produce viable and fertile offspring

No, our goal is the hole, whichever one. Pleasure. Some may have that fathering instinct and spread the seed type stuff, but many dont want children and the expense that normally comes with paying for someone elses kid.

posted November 12, 2008 07:30 PM         

If the woman cheats, she is at fault, not the pawn she used to get it done.

Self control is the issue, and no one should receive blame for another's actions. So even as ineffective of a husband, lover, friend a woman may have, at least in this regard he isn't such an extreme of moral corruption.

If he is worth cheating on, then he is worth leaving, so just dump the guy first for the sake of respect.

posted November 12, 2008 07:36 PM         

Completely agree with you on everything you've said. I feel the same way.

It's always interesting to get the view from the opposite sex. Even more interesting when we agree. However, for every one like us out there there's someone who will disagree - or as Kick's stats show - are cheating.

posted November 12, 2008 07:46 PM         

Lots of different versions.

Men like sex. Many Men do not like using condoms. Some women (oops) forget to take the pill. Combination of factors.

If that is really what Dawkins thinks, you have persuaded me not to buy his book. Thanks

I agree with whoever that the cheating person should get the blame, not the woman/man who took him/her away.
Its silly to blame them because the person you are with should have the self-control to remain there, or do the decent thing.

posted November 12, 2008 07:55 PM         

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Umm, I think you mean Astrologists.

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Astrologers are sometimes known as astrologists.

posted November 12, 2008 07:58 PM         

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Well it was good for me. Im off to sleep ladies!

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Makes me think of the line "are you in yet?".

posted November 12, 2008 08:15 PM         

Obviously I've shown my stance to be a general rule that I follow. I responded to this thread because of the core issue of "misdirected vengeance", and I don't follow the nonsense in Hollywood.

posted November 12, 2008 08:16 PM         

I am one of those Men who looks beyond appearances. Be a Man for a while and you will work out why

posted November 12, 2008 08:30 PM         

I think that people are swayed by looks. It's easy for society to taken Angelina's side on many issues because she's beautiful to the masses. How many other less prolific and less physically beautiful women have taken up the same causes before Ange and not received anywhere as much focus (or praise). It seems to me that the prettier you are considered the more voice you are given. Or, the more people are inclined to stop and hear what you've got to say - regardless of the value.

posted November 12, 2008 08:52 PM         

This is somewhat off topic, but as a woman I'm always curious as to what/who men find attractive. Given other choices would Jen still be your preference?

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posted November 12, 2008 08:58 PM         

Brad Pitt is technically a good actor I think but yes, it's his little piece in Thelma and Louise that got him where he is, ie exposure of his chest with that cowboy hat. Duran wouldn't have been as successful as they were if they weren't as attractive. They were both pretty and struck at the right time. Already discussed the Duran v Japan thing.