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PeaceAngel
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posted November 12, 2008 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Ah, the plot thickens. Really! So what's her agenda?

See it's full circle. The female competition thing. The battle is won and they are still duelling over him.

I don't do the competition thing. I think to myself that every woman in the room is going to look better than me so I don't engage. I know that I look non-threatening to other women. And that works for me. I have other qualities that people/men appreciate. And I'm certainly not going to compete for a man.

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posted November 12, 2008 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
I really don't know what the agenda is. Does Ange feel threatened in any way? As you said, the battle is won so why does Ange need to raise it?

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Scorpionic Web
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posted November 12, 2008 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
PeaceAngel, in response-

My placements are:
Scorpio Sun @ 20 degrees
Libra Moon @ 21 degrees
Scorpio Mercury @ 16 degrees
Scorpio Venus @ 22 degrees
Capricorn Mars @ 09 degrees
Cancer North Node @ 05 degrees
Leo Asc @ 10 degrees

My chart can be found here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum23/HTML/000049.html

If I had my choice of celebrities, of course I would take Kelly Clarkson over any other. Hands down.

Her songs are "chick songs" and too pop-ish for me, but I love her voice as much as I find her adorable.

Kelly Clarkson is April 24th, 1982, whole lotta Venus:
Taurus Sun
Taurus Moon
Taurus Mercury
Pisces Venus
Libra Mars

Random Kelly clip: http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi2278424601/

At the end of the clip, she says she wants 10 kids. I generally don't want kids, but I would give her 20.

PeaceAngel, since you ask, these are other celebs that I'm more physically attracted to than Jennifer Aniston, what I've deemed cute faces, but most are WAY TOO SKINNY for me:
-Jennifer Connelly (Sagittarius, my first celeb crush after seeing The Rocketeer. When I saw that film at age 9, I found her completely gorgeous and wanted to marry her)
-Elisha Cuthbert (Sagittarius)
-Marisa Tomei (Sagittarius)
-Linda Cardellini (Cancer)
-Angelique Boyer (Cancer)
-Marguerite Moreau (Taurus)
-Lauren Graham (Pisces)
-Yvonne Strahovski (Leo)
-Audrey Hepburn (Taurus)
(no particular order)

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writesomething
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posted November 12, 2008 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
i love kelly clarkson. shes just adorable.

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Scorpionic Web
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posted November 12, 2008 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
PeaceAngel-

But I mean, d@mn, aside from Kelly Clarkson, who for some reason stands out to me... how could I possibly categorize a world full of beautiful women?!?!?

I KNOW I've already met my greatest attraction (obsession), and kissing her has become a contender for the happiest moment of my life:

She was actually born a few days after Kelly Clarkson:

Taurus Sun
Gemini Moon
Taurus Mercury
Pisces Venus
Libra Mars
Virgo Asc

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Scorpionic Web
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posted November 13, 2008 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
She is a thick and voluptuous Taurus girl, with complete mastery of her body. She ranked #1 in Philadelphia Girls Tennis for at least 2 years. She crushed the competition, but gave up sports entirely when she went to college.

(Tennis is regarded as the pinnacle of Mercurial sports, she has Virgo Asc in Applying Square to Gemini Moon Conj MC).

God, to me she is just way too sexy.

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CoralFrequency
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posted November 13, 2008 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
cheating in animals or primates is related to testes size as well.

lol do the poor animals even know that they're meant to be 'cheating'?

About the thread - I haven't noticed the trend myself, writesomething.


ScorpWeb, she is very pretty!

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posted November 13, 2008 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Well I think you know what I mean by "cheating", not having marriage-like relationships or if so, then having a bit on the side.

Gorillas (small testes/faithful) --> Humans --> Chimps (large testes/promiscuous)

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Atlenta
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posted November 13, 2008 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Atlenta     Edit/Delete Message
Because Brad was hush hush about it. There's really merit in being quiet, especially when you've done wrong. In this case, Pitt is the ultimate Sagittarian archetype - no guilt, does what he pleases! Who can blame him on that? its what attracted them in the first place. And, I read that Jolie is very hard to handle, and way more independent. Aniston was prolly clingy.

And, it goes to show that action not words bring much less strife..

If you look at it another way, from the male POV, Jolie's ex, Thornton also took a dig on Brad Pitt, by saying he's just a passing fad, so..

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blue moon
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posted November 13, 2008 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
According to some more mature women I worked with one time, sometimes when men get their balls done is when they start messing around. Not sure how that fits into the chimp theory, and I wouldn't like to say, it's the Scorpio Full Moon today, trouble is brewing.

Jen and Brad, who knows, maybe they wanted different things. It seems from that interview she is saying 'I'll have children one day' at the age of 39, maybe he wasn't prepared to wait until the 12th of never. But of course, I don't know, who can trust these type of articles to be even representative of what she said to the journalist.

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AcousticGod
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posted November 13, 2008 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Regarding which between Jen and Ange I prefer, I have to say that I sort of think of both of them as crazy. That said, I've seen more of Angelina outside of the theater, so I can see that motherhood has tamed her. Meanwhile I don't know a thing about Anniston personally. So if I like Angelina better it has nothing to do with looks, and a great deal more to do with the fact I have greater knowledge of her personality outside of her career than I do with Anniston.

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Scorpionic Web
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posted November 13, 2008 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
AG-

How can you say you know anything about their personalities? These are actors in the magical fantasy world of Hollywood, and we only see what they and the tabloids show us, which amounts to a mix of periphery and spin.

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lechien
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posted November 14, 2008 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
i just found this thread and didn't bother to read all the 3 pages, but yea, "Why do women always blame the other woman and NOT the man?"

but do many women really do that? once my ex cheated on me and i dumped him because he'd already done that a couple of times. and with both the women who was involved, i felt bad for THEM because it was HIM who was an idiot.

but what baffled me the most was that because this "women blame women" thing is supposedly so common, he completely believed that i was blaming THEM, although i never acted nor said anything like that! it was so nasty because i think it was his way of justifying his own doing!

in any case when things like this happen its mostly the guy who cheats to be blamed. don't know what happened with Brad Pitt and the girls, but i always had the impression if someone had to be blamed, it would be the guy in this case too...

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sunshine_lion
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posted November 14, 2008 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
I would blame the man. She isn't the one who owes you any fidelity. He did. And besides that, isn't it always pretty much the mans fault anyway? uh, yea. I think the thing she was mad about Angie for was running her big fat mouth. That was the uncool thing. I think, at least thats how I took it. Brad only really like Angie when she is pregnant anyway, look at thier body language when she is preggers and when she is not. Sooner or later she will quit having babies.

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AcousticGod
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posted November 14, 2008 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
SW,

I agree that I can't know much, but even so I've at least seen interviews with AJ, whilst I haven't with JA. My view does lack perspective, but it is shaped by what I do see.

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katatonic
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posted November 14, 2008 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
of course it is dumb to blame the "other" woman! blame both of them! crikey! or how about don't blame either one. to my mind the only thing wrong with cheating is we have it set up that 1+1= happily ever after. loving someone doesn't mean you can't be attracted to someone else. if no one knows who's hurt?? of course the tabloids make the last question almost redundant!

HOWEVER if you have kids, then the consequences of convincing yourself you are cheating because you're in love or your partner just isn't the right one impacts innocent people who have the right to count on your support. this is not okay to me.

on the other hand, both brad and angelina are serial-leading-partner-monogamists as far as i can see. its a pretty wellworn hollywood tradition that actors cast in romantic duets fall for each other. can't figure out myself why they always think "this one's the one" - or do they? perhaps, they are just getting over involved in roles of their own creation and when their homemade movie is over they fall for someone else. if i were either of those two i would watch my back given that they don't seem to be able to cheat in perspective, ie have a fling and get on with life instead of rationalizing it by playing "the most perfect, most inlove couple" not to mention the most high-profile, self deluding ones!

paul newman used to say "why eat hamburger out when you have steak at home?" and while i applaud him for having such a great marriage and relationship with his wife, THAT is why women blame the other woman...because she makes #1 look (or feel) inadequate. one day we will learn to look to ourselves for our misfortune's causes.

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lechien
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posted November 14, 2008 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
i think it's natural to be attracted to others while in relationship, and it's a matter of trust and the sense of fidelity. that's why one should avoid "cheating", and that's why it's the guy who is to be blamed because his sense of fidelity is none of the other girl's business. it's a problem within the couple's relationship and the girl should be counted out as the one who holds responsibility, unless she really too a big role in coaxing him into cheating? anyway, i have no clue what the situation was with Brat and the girls...

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Kick It
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posted November 14, 2008 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kick It     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, its natural to be attracted to others and even look. No matter what someone does (within reason) it is no reason to cheat. If it was something so bad, you just dump them.

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blue moon
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posted November 15, 2008 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with blue moon, oh wait that's me. I agree with what Sunshine-Lion said about running off her big fat mouth.

The only thing I don't know about Angelina Jolie is the tampon brand she uses, and that is bound to hit front-page news before too long.

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PeaceAngel
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posted November 15, 2008 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
SW

Your girl is certainly very beautiful looking. Always good to find that a man likes a full bodied woman and appreciates those soft feminine bodily qualities of a woman.

I like your taste in famous women too. Kelly Clarkson and Jennifer Connolly.

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PeaceAngel
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posted November 15, 2008 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
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I agree with blue moon, oh wait that's me.

ROFL bm

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