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posted March 04, 2009 06:46 PM         

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You dont sound arrogant to me, taurus/gemini.

I believe you've experienced what you say you have.

And I can see you glowing, all the way from here.

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posted March 04, 2009 06:54 PM         

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taurus/gemini cusp

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posted March 04, 2009 06:57 PM         

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katatonic,

Well, I think a person's charisma is generally shown by others' reactions.
We naturally dont tend to evoke the same fascination for ourselves,
because we are more familiar, less exotic, to ourselves than to others.
(Also, because we are not really in a position to look at ourselves.)

I think the outer planets, particularly,
tend to be exotic and charismatic to many people.

Uranus is electric and magnetic,
Neptune is glamorous and enchanting,
Pluto is alluring and hypnotic....
Sounds like Charisma to me.

And whatever Hitler was channeling,
I would sooner call demons than gods.

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posted March 04, 2009 07:04 PM         

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I think a person's charisma is generally shown by others' reactions.

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posted March 04, 2009 07:15 PM         

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...But why are people always attracted to mysterious people then? Like everyone does love a charismatic person because there easy and fun to get along with but everyone always talks about the "mysterious" person, the one that gives you the cold shoulder and won't give you a second of their time..they will not even waste their breath on you and people find that so alluring and attracting.

Why is that?O.o

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posted March 04, 2009 07:23 PM         

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Awwww - thank you Heart Shaped Cross and LEXX!!! You're very kind - I am blushing profusely over here!!!!!

I also do agree that the outer planets (whether unaspected, singleton, in the 1st house or making very strong aspects to personal planets) are the ones that bestow charisma. And also, of course anything important in the sign of Leo. (Leo's have such delusions of grandeur, bless 'em that it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy and they become, well grand)!!!!!

Scorpios are often charismatic, as are Aquarians. I have seven fixed signs in my chart altogether (using up all four of the fixed signs) so maybe that might account for something? Charismatic but also a VERY stubborn git, lol!!!!!

I'd say that there's a lot of charismatic peeps on Lindaland actually. There doesn't seem to be many that just fade into the background - everyone has there own unique ways that really stand out!!!

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posted March 04, 2009 07:29 PM         

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taurus/gemini cusp
My basics are:

Not much Leo there.
Do have Aqua Moon though.

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posted March 04, 2009 07:34 PM         

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(Leo's have such delusions of grandeur, bless 'em that it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy and they become, well grand)!!!!!

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Absolutely.

The first requirement for greatness is the audacity to be great;
one must begin upon the heights, to ascend beyond the clouds.

And I wholeheartedly agree about Scorpio and Aquarius.

Case and point: C'est moi!

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posted March 04, 2009 07:36 PM         

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But why are people always attracted to mysterious people then?

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I think a lot of people are intrigued by mysteries in general. Look at all the crime dramas on television.

Earlier in my life I was enamoured with that showing that kind of identity, the quiet, self-contained, wonder-what-he's-about kind of guy. It's perfect for a Saturn opposite Mercury person like myself. You might also throw in my Moon/Pluto conjunction, and my Venus/Neptune conjunction. All of these can work into that persona.

Nowadays, I'm still quiet, but I tend to garner more attention for stepping outside of that quietness temporarily. Like I'm quiet around the office, but we've had some meetings where I uncharacteristically make jokes that have caught people off guard. I remember going to my supervisor's office to get a cupcake once, and she said I had to dance for it. She was impressed that I did as she wished.

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posted March 04, 2009 07:36 PM         

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I'd say you're absolutely sorted there, charisma wise LEXX!!! You must be bubbling over with magnetism!!!!!

I love the scorp/aqua mix - you must literally have all eyes on you when you entere a room!

Hmmm - maybe we've found a correlation between charisma and the fixed signs? But aries can be charismatic too - I forgot about the rams!!!!!

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posted March 04, 2009 07:39 PM         

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HSC...
I see you have alot more fire than I do.

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posted March 04, 2009 07:45 PM         

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Oh my gosh - Heart Shaped Cross - another fabulous scorp/aquarius mixture!!! Another thing that I forgot about was the gorgeous Sun conjunct Venus in Scorpio aspect that you've got there - I have this too (In late Taurus) and I'm sure it helps!!!

AG - you've definitely got something going on charisma-wise. I always remember you from the site (as well as the wonderful Happy Dragon) probably the most of all!

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posted March 04, 2009 07:46 PM         

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taurus/gemini cusp
I get attention both positive and negative, no matter what age or size I have been/am, or whether my hair is hidden or down.
I just seem to get attention no matter what I do, when I am amongst people....so I have become rather reclusive and go out only when absolutely required (or desired, if it is in a nature setting with few people around)

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posted March 04, 2009 09:00 PM         

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AG- Thanks that clears up several questions. It always drove me fruit loops when I had to go up to the "mysterious" guy because one of my good friends would be attracted to those kinda guys but in the end the never really liked her back but she would like them more after that.>.>;

When it comes to charisma, I think of Obama. Leo Sun and Aquarius Rising..I don't remember his moon sign, if Im not mistaken. His face is plastered everywhere, on t-shirts..hats..pens..all sorts of stuff and people at school were talking about him way before he became president and the way he can sway a crowd. So there's further proof into this fixed sign thing.

Also what about Jupiter, Sags exude charisma when I meet them.

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posted March 05, 2009 01:09 AM         

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LEXX, Yeah, maybe.
But you have Mars conjunct your Moon and Square your Sun,
and the planets can be even more potent than the signs in some ways.

taurus/gemini cusp,
Sun conjunct Venus in Taurus sounds yummy.

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posted March 05, 2009 01:53 AM         

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Oh, she's attractive. Her eyes are brilliant.

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posted March 05, 2009 04:33 PM         

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I am an outer planet person.

Does this mean I am charismatic??

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posted March 05, 2009 06:58 PM         

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Well, i think it depends on a lot of things.
The placements, the aspects.. the type of charisma;
"charisma" can mean many different things to many different people.

Also, there are different levels of manifestation for the same planets, signs, houses, and aspects.
And sometimes you cant tell from looking at the chart alone what level a person is manifesting on.
At least, I don't believe I can tell what level they're manifesting on from just looking at the chart.

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posted March 06, 2009 02:07 AM         

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Leo and charisma? eh, maybe...not to me though. I think of Sagittarius and Aquarius energies when it comes to that, but mainly Sagittarius.

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