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Heart--Shaped Cross
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From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
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posted June 28, 2007 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
You still have not edited out the slanderous comments made about my personal life, as I requested. If you do not delete them, I will contact Randall. This is a CLEAR violation of one of the most meticulously observed rules here at LL, and I'm sure he will agree.
If you value your Mod status, or your integrity, I suggest you do the right thing.


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lalalinda
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posted June 28, 2007 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
HSC, if the part you want edited,
is in a closed thread
it's too late, you can't get back in to edit anything.

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Mirandee
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posted June 28, 2007 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
HSC

You and I both know this is not an issue with you at all. I requested that both you and Pid edit your own posts. If you wanted her to delete all of her post you would have mentioned it at the time. You did not. If you wanted the matter dropped you would not have kept discussing it with Pidaua using the womans screen name.

Wasn't it you who stated when you revealed private matters concerning Zala, Fayte and Lialei on the "Ah, The Woman" thread and they objected to the invasion of their privacy that nothing is private as far as you are concerned? Or does that just apply to your revealing private matters concerning other people but not when it comes to your privacy?

As lalalinda just told you. It's too late now. The thread is closed. If it was this important to you then you should have requested it at the time.

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pidaua
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posted June 28, 2007 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Can it be deleted?


****edited to add*** I do not feel anything I posted was slanderous. I do however, feel that if it can be deleted and we all agree.. that would be fine.

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Mirandee
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posted June 28, 2007 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
I will wait until Randall gets a chance to check it out as I have emailed him about all of this and asked him do that.

If he wants to delete the whole thread he can do that if it can be done or I will if everyone is in agreement.

I didn't delete the thread because it took time to put all those pictures in and others were keeping to the topic. I hate to erase their efforts and opinions.

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Mirandee
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posted June 28, 2007 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
I have given some thought to this and really, I am not in favor of deleting the Political Pictures thread. It's closed and will slip into the archives.

I tend to agree with Lotus in that a person should take responsibility for their words and actions. Their words should stand. I have never deleted anything I ever said even though later I have regretted saying them. I just attempt to learn from the lesson and let it help me grow spiritually.

Besides that, if the Political Pictures thread should be deleted then so should cancerrg's " Ah The Woman" thread because on that thread HSC posted an email that Zala sent him without her permission, accused Lialei of having divulged something private about Fayte to him but could offer any proof that it was she who told him that, and cast doubt and suspicion on Fayte in the process by calling it her "secret" which he knew would make everyone at LL wonder what it could possibly be that was so bad. ( wow long sentence I am out of breath lol )

There is also a thread at UC where HSC revealed another thing that Lialei said to him in private and used it as a weapon against me. Lia later told me it was just a bit of complaining about me to a trusted friend on a bad day. Really, what any daughter would do concerning a parent on a bad day. She told me what she said. Yet he made it appear on the thread something really bad about me as a mother.

If we delete one closed thread or one thread where there are arguments and personal attacks or personal info revealed we would have to delete them all. Would sure clean out the archives around here. LOL

I think that HSC should consider the revealing of private matters concerning him after he did it to others as instant karma and learn from the experience.

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posted June 28, 2007 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
All of this just indicates to me a need to take our lives off-line.

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Mirandee
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posted June 28, 2007 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
As long as we can take the dear friends we have made online with us.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted June 28, 2007 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Mirandee,

I just want you to edit her post on page 3,
where she slandered me.

I edited my last post to you on that thread,
before it was closed, and asked you to do this,
the very instant I saw what she had written on page 3.

The reason I did not ask for her other comments to be deleted right away is, first of all, I didnt think of it, and second of all, I felt the damage was done, and I should at least defend myself.

Whether she knows those are untruths or not,
I know for a fact that they are.

I know the situation and it was a VERY unique one.
If Pid knew half of what I know, she would not judge me.

No one is to blame in the matter pid spoke of -
it was Life - the school of hard knocks,
and it was hard for me, too.

There's so much i cannot speak of here,
so much that would prove my innocence in this.

Please,
Let's not compare this to what I did,
when I posted something positive from 'Zala,
and something else that was TRUE,
and alluded to in an impulsive moment
after days of being ganged up on;
something which I said about someone,
which I believe was not a big deal,
and which i said that person should be forgiven for.

This is very different.
In that instance,
everyone defended the person i spoke of,
and everyone attacked the hell out of me for speaking of it.

In this instance,
my character is being assassinated,
no one is saying sh-t to Pidaua,
and 'Zala is saying Pid might know something I don't.
No one is even saying it is private!!!!
Well, I am saying it is private!
It is MY business, and if she is going to lie about it,
or else, unwittingly spread slander,
I'm going to make sure it is kept private.
Thats MY perrogative,
not something we all need to agree on.

This is so unfair. Bottom line.

I am just asking for it to be deleted.

And i also want all my other stuff considered private from now on,
all the stuff about the drugs and the suicidal depression,
all the times i reached out for help -
I never thought it would be received with such insensitivity and disdain,
or I would not have shared it.
Yes, I posted it in the past,
and I'll probably post about it in the future,
but it is still off limits to people who can't respect it.
These are my personal struggles which i share.
If you can't help me, dont make it worse.
If you dont have a degree in psychology or any understanding of people like me,
then keep your judgements and insults to yourselves.
And dont act like you are trying to help me by being so severe -
I assure you, that doesnt work with me,
never has and never will, -
it only ***** with me more.
If you have no sympathy, and no advice that can be offerred
without insulting me and judging me,
then dont f*cking talk about my personal issues!
If you have a problem with my posts,
take it up with my posts -
dont pull in something i told you innocently
to justify your nonarguments against me -
if my drugs and depression are affecting my posts,
you can debate me by debating my posts.
I am not perfect and i never claimed to be.
If others cry out for help,
I dont shame and judge them,
i offer my understanding, empathy, compassion, and advice.
I have never in my life attacked someone for asking for help,
or for saying they are sad.

Please, everyone leave me alone,
you have no idea what I stuggle with,
and how hard I try.
Dont f*cking tell me I am pitying myself!!!
Have a f*cking HEART instead.
Or keep your big mouths shut.

I'm not threatening anything,
I'm just honestly informing you
that, if you push me like this,
something VERY F*CKING BAD might happen,
and, yes, you WILL be sorry.
Not a threat, just a reality.
Something that threatens me far more than it threatens you.


Pid,

You know nothing about her situation.
If you did, and if you have any idea what I am alluding to,
you could not think the things you say,
and you would only say them if you were consciously lying.

Thats a fact. I know what happened.
I can't talk about it here,
or get that person here to tell her side of the story,
but, if I could, you would eat those words, Pid,
hook, line, and sinker.

I suggest you leave me the f*ck alone.

I'm not playing your reindeer games anymore.

Stay the f*ck away from me,
and I will do the same for you.
That means keeping my name,
and any derrogatory allusions to me,
out of your posts, from now on.
I will do the same for you.

You are wrong wrong wrong.

Have a shadow of a doubt about me,
and leave me the f*ck alone.

I have a good heart and I loved that girl,
and i was, and probably will always be remembered by her as,
the only person who ever did.
You don't know.
Let it go.
Never talk about it again.
I'm not going to threaten you,
I'm just going to plead with you
to look in your heart,
and leave me alone.
If you are so convinced you are right,
so be it, - you have had your say.

Leave me alone.

Mirandee, as a Mod, you can edit her post,
without deleting the whole thread, cant you?

Please do, and i will delete this post,
which is, at least, full of TRUTH,
and condemns no one.


peeacce


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lotusheartone
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posted June 28, 2007 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
justing posting your post Heart--Shaped Cross, enough is enough!
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posted June 28, 2007 10:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross Edit/Delete Message Mirandee,

I just want you to edit her post on page 3,
where she slandered me.

I edited my last post to you on that thread,
before it was closed, and asked you to do this,
the very instant I saw what she had written on page 3.

The reason I did not ask for her other comments to be deleted right away is, first of all, I didnt think of it, and second of all, I felt the damage was done, and I should at least defend myself.

Whether she knows those are untruths or not,
I know for a fact that they are.

I know the situation and it was a VERY unique one.
If Pid knew half of what I know, she would not judge me.

No one is to blame in the matter pid spoke of -
it was Life - the school of hard knocks,
and it was hard for me, too.

There's so much i cannot speak of here,
so much that would prove my innocence in this.

Please,
Let's not compare this to what I did,
when I posted something positive from 'Zala,
and something else that was TRUE,
and alluded to in an impulsive moment
after days of being ganged up on;
something which I said about someone,
which I believe was not a big deal,
and which i said that person should be forgiven for.

This is very different.
In that instance,
everyone defended the person i spoke of,
and everyone attacked the hell out of me for speaking of it.

In this instance,
my character is being assassinated,
no one is saying sh-t to Pidaua,
and 'Zala is saying Pid might know something I don't.
No one is even saying it is private!!!!
Well, I am saying it is private!
It is MY business, and if she is going to lie about it,
or else, unwittingly spread slander,
I'm going to make sure it is kept private.
Thats MY perrogative,
not something we all need to agree on.

This is so unfair. Bottom line.

I am just asking for it to be deleted.

And i also want all my other stuff considered private from now on,
all the stuff about the drugs and the suicidal depression,
all the times i reached out for help -
I never thought it would be received with such insensitivity and disdain,
or I would not have shared it.
Yes, I posted it in the past,
and I'll probably post about it in the future,
but it is still off limits to people who can't respect it.
These are my personal struggles which i share.
If you can't help me, dont make it worse.
And dont act like you are trying to help me by being so severe -
I assure you, that doesnt work with me,
never has and never will, -
it only ***** with me more.
If you have no sympathy, and no advice that can be offerred
without insulting me and judging me,
then dont f*cking talk about my personal issues!
If you have a problem with my posts,
take it up with my posts -
dont pull in something i told you innocently
to justify your nonarguments against me -
if my drugs and depression are affecting my posts,
you can debate me by debating my posts.
I am not perfect and i never claimed to be.
If others cry out for help,
I dont shame and judge them,
i offer my understanding, empathy, compassion, and advice.
I have never in my life attacked someone for asking for help,
or for saying they are sad.

Please, everyone leave me alone,
you have no idea what I stuggle with,
and how hard I try.
Dont f*cking tell me I am pitying myself!!!
Have a f*cking HEART instead.
Or keep your big mouths shut.

I'm not threatening anything,
I'm just honestly informing you
that, if you push me like this,
something VERY F*CKING BAD might happen,
and, yes, you WILL be sorry.
Not a threat, just a reality.
Something that threatens me far more than it threatens you.


Pid,

You know nothing about her situation.
If you did, and if you have any idea what I am alluding to,
you could not think the things you say,
and you would only say them if you were consciously lying.

Thats a fact. I know what happened.
I can't talk about it here,
or get that person here to tell her side of the story,
but, if I could, you would eat those words, Pid,
hook, line, and sinker.

I suggest you leave me the f*ck alone.

I'm not playing your reindeer games anymore.

Stay the f*ck away from me,
and I will do the same for you.
That means keeping my name,
and any derrogatory allusions to me,
out of your posts, from now on.
I will do the same for you.

You are wrong wrong wrong.

Have a shadow of a doubt about me,
and leave me the f*ck alone.

I have a good heart and I loved that girl,
and i was, and probably will always be remembered by her as,
the only person who ever did.
You don't know.
Let it go.
Never talk about it again.
I'm not going to threaten you,
I'm just going to plead with you
to look in your heart,
and leave me alone.
If you are so convinced you are right,
so be it, - you have had your say.

Leave me alone.

Mirandee, as a Mod, you can edit her post,
without deleting the whole thread, cant you?

Please do, and i will delete this post,
which is, at least, full of TRUTH,
and condemns no one.


peeacce
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you are threatening people,
how dare you..


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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted June 28, 2007 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
How Dare YOU!!!

I'm not threatening anything,
I'm just honestly informing you
that, if you push me like this,
something VERY F*CKING BAD might happen,
and, yes, you WILL be sorry.
Not a threat, just a reality.
Something that threatens me far more than it threatens you.

I'm suicidal.
It's a FACT.
Its something i deal with,
and my family, friends, and therapist deal with too.
I'm just letting you know you are playing with fire.
You can decide for yourself if you want that to happen.

PLEASE, leave me the f*ck alone you stupid crazy woman!!!

I am tired of you judging people all in the name of love, lotus. Your self-righteous and dictatorial tone is more negative than you realize. Your constantly repeated threats of karmic retribution are not helping or persuading anyone. They are only perpetuating an atmosphere of anxiety and repression. The only thing you have to support your claims is the ubiquitous "Go Within." We've all heard this a million times, from you and from a million other places, the difference being that others give us the reasons, methods, and means to go within, while you just say "go within", offering only fear as a means of motivation, and, meanwhile, continuing to direct all of your own energies outward, at the rest of us. Going deeply within means penetrating into the reasons, methods, and means, and the result is a self-realized person, who exudes an atmosphere of calm, reasonability, and warmth. Your tone is neither peaceful nor sympathetic, and it does more to convince us of your ignorance and delusion than your claimed self-realization, which not a single person on these boards has seconded. I suggest you go within, Lotus, and take a long look at your teaching methods. Are they working? Is anyone listening to you, or is practically everyone tuning out your broken-record of judgements, threats, and "go withins". If you think things come back to you, then welcome this message as your karmic due, and you'll show us all, by example, that you possess the courage of your convictions, and that your convictions really do possess the power to modify your behavior and fill you with a spirit capable of returning love for all things. If you can't do that, GO WITHIN.


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naiad
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posted June 28, 2007 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for naiad     Edit/Delete Message
Stephen ~ you are a good man with a good heart. of course you are not perfect, none of us is. you open your heart as few others do. please don't let it be trampled on....be a passerby, ok?

you have much love and admiration dear one, but you are in pain now, so please let your heart be soothed and do some deep breathing. all is well, you know this.

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lotusheartone
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posted June 28, 2007 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
okay, so what you are saying is, that if you kill yourself, it will be our fault?

this is a public forum, I had two members threatten my life, private emails exposed,
I was torn to shreds..
I am still here, and I have always stood
alone, and stood up for mySelf..

I know men like you, you manipulate, you
play mind games, and then you pull, the
"I'm gonna kill mySelf, and it's going to
be your fault"...

Enough is Enough. ...

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Mirandee
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posted June 29, 2007 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
No, I will not delete anything on that thread. The words stand.

If I delete Pidaua's words to you I would have to delete your words to her which weren't so nice either. I would also have to delete Mystic Melody's words on her thread. You know, the words in her attack on me that you condoned, supported, justified, spoke for her and excused? Those words? Remember? You didn't seem to feel that MM's vicious attack on me needed deleting, HSC. In fact you both would have screamed to high heaven if I had deleted them and that thread. But words to you are different eh? Your feelings matter.

If you want anything deleted you can email Randall about it. Because what you would be asking of both Randall and myself is censorship. I will not censor Pidaua. I will not censor you. I will not censor Mystic Melody. Everyone is responsible for their words. Besides that, censorship is against Randalls policies here at LL.

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Solane Star
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posted June 29, 2007 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message

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Mirandee
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posted June 29, 2007 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
I dunno. This sounds like a threat to me

quote:
If you value your Mod status, or your integrity, I suggest you do the right thing.

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BlueRoamer
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posted June 29, 2007 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
This site has really evolved into quite the stage for high drama.

Lately we're seeing the same cast of characters live out their dramas time and time again. We all know who the major players are. I don't know if I find it fascinating or depressing.

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Mirandee
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posted June 29, 2007 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
I'm suicidal.
It's a FACT.
Its something i deal with,
and my family, friends, and therapist deal with too.
I'm just letting you know you are playing with fire.
You can decide for yourself if you want that to happen.

I feel sorry for your problems, HSC. I sincerely do. None of us here would want your death at your own hands to happen.

The decision to take one's life is a decision only the person can make. No one else can cause that. Only you can cause that. No one could stop you if you wanted to take your life either. No words we say, nothing that we could do would stop you. It is not a choice we have to make, HSC. It would be your choice alone.

However for you to ask us if we want that to happen because we won't give in to your wants is emotional blackmail. It's an attempt on your part to let you have your way or your death is on our hands. You are attempting to emotionally blackmail us to get your way, HSC. That is so very wrong to do to other people. It amounts to a childish tantrum. It's manipulation to the extreme.

It's taking the responsibility for your life and putting it in our hands. No one is responsible for your life but you, HSC. Whether you want to live your life or end it is not something we can possibly be responsible for. We are all responsible for our own lives. We are only responsible for each other as children of God to the degree that we possibly can be. We cannot possibly be responsible for your choice to live or die. That is entirely in your hands, HSC and God's hands. We have no control over that.

I for one refuse to be emotionally blackmailed and manipulated that way. I also refuse to be a codependent and an enabler to you or anyone else by coddling to your whims, always agreeing with you because you take any disagreement as a personal attack, and telling you constantly how wonderful you are.

I don't know what your mental problems are, HSC. I don't know anything about it except that it has been worked out on the people here at LL waaaaay too many times and I think many people are tired of your problems being taken out on them. We have our rights too.

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AcousticGod
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posted June 29, 2007 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Lately we're seeing the same cast of characters live out their dramas time and time again. We all know who the major players are. I don't know if I find it fascinating or depressing.

Good question for this multiple retrograde.

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InLoveWithLife
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posted June 29, 2007 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for InLoveWithLife     Edit/Delete Message
may be its time to unplug your computer HSC.

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Petron
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posted June 29, 2007 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
it was clear to me that it was pidaua who came into that thread with the same insults as usual.....'pathetic',....'childish'.......

then she went completely off topic bringing up some personal episode from the past, since that was her only way to attack the topic of 'political pics'??

the thread should have been deleted immediately......but now its too late because its been edited to pieces and people cant see what actually went on.......

i dont think mirandee makes a good moderator and certainly wouldnt make a good counseler either......

just my opinion......i wanted to make clear the way i see things here....

dont sweat it hsc.....theyre not worth it.....


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26taurus
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posted June 29, 2007 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
i'm **** *ng sickened right now...shaking.

i want to puke everywhere.

it's gross. disgusting, GROSS.

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26taurus
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posted June 29, 2007 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
I don't know if I find it fascinating or depressing.

it's SICK.

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pidaua
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posted June 29, 2007 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Always nice to see you petron.

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Welcome back from the Sandbox Bear...I love you...Forever and a Day....

www.IMWITHFRED.com

Fred Thompson 2008 :D

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Lialei
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posted June 29, 2007 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message

No one is the enemy ghost.

It all comes from hurt and keeps going round and round.


Innocence is never lost.
It's never too late to turn around.


Stephen loved her sincerely with all his heart.
That much, I know.


I care too much for everyone to remain detatched. My heart gets pulled in too many directions. I don't want to cause more harm or confusion.

I only wish that for just a moment everyone could live inside of another's heart.

The lines wouldn't be as clearly defined
and we'd understand.


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