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plutogoddess
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posted January 13, 2007 09:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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IamLove
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posted January 14, 2007 12:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Iam love, i appreciate ur post..
It sasy thsi union will be distructive, eiteh rof us not happy in relationship and at the sam etime says sexual needs wil be staisfied, excellent aspects to get togetehr..
has anybody been through, or happen to know such cases please tell post and help me in my case............


Don't worry every relationship has it's good and its bad spects.... plus this is only a sample reading.... a full reading will probably have more benefactors...... also please go to www.astro.com for a FREE composite report... the report I posted for you was a synastry... the composite chart is very beneficial to a relationship also... not just the synastry.... and later when I get a chance I'm going to try to post another synastry report for you two.... (this one will include the birth time)

Katie

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Iqhunk
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posted January 14, 2007 02:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ascendants clash, and Jani's Ascendant is opposed to his Pluto. Pluto squares his Ascendant too. This is a difficult T-Square and astrologically, the root of the problem.

Suns are exacty quincunx (150 degrees) which means there is a need for adjustment.

Moons are harmonious, Jupiters are ok, Saturns do not clash. Mars and Venus are ok too.

Still, the worst aspects imaginable do not allow for a 11 month abstinence from intercourse. He may have normal drive but still be suffering from male er. dysfunction.

Have you ever seen him get a normal er. ? Pls make sure of this else this problem wont be solved. The first step for a solution is to acknowledge the problem frankly.


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jani_jean
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posted January 14, 2007 04:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After reading few sites he sd thou he cud relate with a PE , ED is not a prob..
Well iam sorry to ask this, but i am unable to make out how errect is good enough

I am asking ppl's thoughts out here as i feel teh forum is mroe of this generation as parents generation feel its no use continuing this relation..I dont understand what a girl in my position wud do and if its right

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Iqhunk
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posted January 14, 2007 12:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Jani,
PE is a mild form of ED. It can be cured.
50% of the problem is mental, 50% is physical from excessive mastur. during adolescence and early twenties.

How much er. is normal?
Any Er. over 5 inches length is normal and adequate.

Deep breathing is very very useful.

Give this relationship atleast 2 more months, if you both cooperate he will make it and life will get 10 times better.

Take this complex herbal medication with plenty of water after consulting with a physician so that there be no chances of side effects.
These are all safe medicines and in the market for years, far safer than Viagra.

1. Himalaya Brand Tentex Forte 2 tablets in the morning and 2 in the evening. This stimulates the sex centres in the brain.

2. Himalaya Brand Tentex Royale once in the night. Gives a boost to 1.

3. Dabur Shilajit twice in the morning or evening with a glass of milk that has saffron and badam additionally.

4. One Dabur Shilajit Gold in the night.

5. 2 Vitamin B Complex capsules. ZEVIT is the exact brand because of the zinc.

6. 1 Exergex Vitamin Capsule in the night. (This has trace elements which the Shilajit will make sure the body absorbs correctly)

7. 2 Vitamin C tablets and 1 Vitamin E in the morning and repeat in the night.

8. Use plenty of Himalaya's Himcolin Gel on his P before bednight.

9. He must visualize Ego boosting scenes in his head after deep breathing. It is ok to imagine outlandishly that he is making love to 100s or 1000s of women in one night. Anything that boosts sexual confidence will help cure the PE.

10. Some amount of Beef is compulsory in the diet. Plenty of red coloured fruit and vegetables plus apple juice will help.

11. He must visualize a bright red colour band around his genitals before going to sleep.

12. He must visualize in bright red colour this symbol in his genitals.

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(it must be like an arrow tip and the lines must connect)

This visualization must be 10-15 times a day.

The above are the 12 best practices for a permanent herbal cure for mild ED.

Serious ED needs surgery or prosthetic implant.

Every form of ED is curable. Nothing to fear.
If you start trying out this cure, tell me here, I will later post some affirmations to bolster the treatment.

Best of luck, I have full faith that he will be cured.


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jani_jean
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posted January 14, 2007 05:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow IQ hunk , now i get why ur username is so
It wud be shattering to let him know that he is being discussed in forums here ...
I leave it to him as i beleive one is old enuf to understand after being told

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InLoveWithLife
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posted January 14, 2007 05:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I leave it to him as i beleive one is old enuf to understand after being told

pardon me Jani_jean, but i feel that this is exactly the attitude that has landed u both in the situation you are in. sorry for being blunt with you. but don't u think that the present situation is pretty embarrassing for him in itself?

i m not suggesting tht u tell him tht u discussed this here on this forum, but u both DO need to discuss, and not leave it to the other person as he is 'old enuf'. if he had been capable of dealing with it on his own, he wud hv done so by now, dont u think?

separation wud of course be a way out. but i think u shud atleast try to work things out. esp since yours had been a love marriage...so i am assuming tht u do love him. wudn't u want to help him with this prob?? if u opt out, imagine wht effect it will have on him. he wud feel like a failure. don't u want to feel that intimacy with HIM, the guy u love? i think he needs your help and honest support in this. make him feel loved, then gently but surely lead him in the right direction. and educate yourself! and if u need help with tht, let me knw (my email id is quicksilver.alchemy@gmail.com )

i was shocked to know tht it has been after all this while tht u guys hv actually acknowledged tht there even is a problem. (and i am an indian too...and it still shocked me no end...i wud be after my guy within a week to tell me wht the problem is, if i were u). this in itself shows very poor communication between u two. and now once again u/him/both r shying of discussing it and DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

all this astrological advice may help to know the problem....but its not going to SOLVE it. but u both shud seek some professional counsel. if he is feeling shy, may be he cud discuss it with some close male friend who can advise him wht to do. i know its a very difficult situation, but old roundabout ways of doing things just wont help, i am sorry. it is important that u seek help from someone professionally experienced and closer at hand.

i guess thts my cardinal nature showing up. but i really feel u need to DO something!

ILWL

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jani_jean
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posted January 14, 2007 05:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I take ur advsie in good stride .
What ****** me off is that why does somebody have to be told remidned to do something as basic as this?
Or is it this acse with all married couples i dont know..
Its not that i havent told him teh importance of phy union in a relationship .We have discussed thsi already 2 in a big level .

His answer is its not too late and we can start eevn now
i dont knwo if we plan to wait to compelte 3rd annievrsary befroe it gets goin

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InLoveWithLife
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posted January 14, 2007 05:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok some questions for you....

1. did u ever see him turned on in your presence? before marriage? after marriage?

2. did u ever try to 'seduce' him? give him indirect hints? tried kissing and cuddling?

heck, i am hving difficulty understanding how u went to bed with him night after night without being turned on yourself AND doing sth!!

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InLoveWithLife
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posted January 14, 2007 05:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i know dear!! it is pretty amazing to me too!

i just saw your chart...and u hv venus in scorp...mars in cappy!!! how did u ever put up with tht girl! 3rd anniversary, r u kidding me ?!!

did u try getting yourself some victoria's secret type stuff and see if it works? try creating a romantic atmosphere...he has venus in leo and i am guessing he wud be a sucker for candlelight dinners and stuff....take the lead....with mars in virgo, i think he'd like tht too. and with all those strong placements of yours, i think u can do it...ie, initiate the act

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jani_jean
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posted January 14, 2007 06:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi i am back again..
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did u ever see him turned on in your presence? before marriage? after marriage?
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Its both ways ..sometiems feel teh attraction simply isnt tehre as i think i was thinking its impossible for a man to resist
Or Maybe he has soo much of self control
(If tahst the case dont udnerstand why that self control when i am a legagly wedded wife ...)
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2. did u ever try to 'seduce' him? give him indirect hints? tried kissing and cuddling?
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My orevious attempts have been put off by i am feeling sleepy, too damn tired, feeling so cold etc etc...

Tell me soemthing girl, what horrifies me is this in initial years if this be teh acse , how difficut it is for a venus in scorp ,8th hosue sun girl like me going to manage?????????????


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InLoveWithLife
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posted January 14, 2007 07:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i cant understand it either.

i am thinking, may be he doesnt even want to accept tht there is a problem. hv u tried telling him how imp it is for u tht u have sex?

being a cancer, may be he is too shy to admit tht he has those problems. may be he wud agree to go to a marriage counselor, rather than doing to a doctor first. the problem cud be at an emotional level, u know. cancers r notoriously difficult to approach recede into their shells.

certainly u cant put up with this forever. gosh so frustrating!! and i am just a cappy and cant imagine it! if he refuses to see a counselor/doctor, i think u wud hv to give him am ultimatum. tht u wud leave him if he refuses to participate in this very imp part of a marriage, or at the very least try to go about fixing the prob.

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InLoveWithLife
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posted January 14, 2007 07:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i just noticed something dear...which might be at the roots of this behaviour....hang on i will look for some stuff related to it.

so u r up all night worrying abt this thing, huh?

*edit* check out this link...it carries a description of saturn in the 8th which might fit your guy
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/011715-3.html

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posted January 14, 2007 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Jani jean, sorry to hear that. I think it may be the case of his cancerianess being difficult in admitting there is a problem. Ughhhh, it sounds frustrating! Where's his moon, mars, and venus? Are they in fixed signs? It sounds like he may have some in leo (pride thing).

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jani_jean
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posted January 14, 2007 08:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi dulce duna,
Here are his details...
Sun Cancer 8°24'17 in house 6 direct
Moon Taurus 14°43'16 in house 4 direct
Mercury Cancer 25°51'28 in house 7 direct
Venus Leo 16°44'04 in house 8 direct
Mars Virgo 9°13'37 in house 8 direct

Actually after i cofronted him he admitted that thsi was not normal and maybe vene if he has a problem he wud even udnergo surgery!! the thing is soemtimes he is too good saying thinsg which melts me ...

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InLoveWithLife
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posted January 14, 2007 08:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi jani, it seems to me tht saturn in 8th house might be the culprit whr your hubby is concerned. actually i am feeling rather sorry for him now

he is a cancerian...sometimes for cancerian men it is difficult to come to terms with their emotional natures. plus he has saturn in 8th. tht wud indicate problems with intimacy. and having mars in virgo doesnt help.

i will quote some stuff from that link here which i think might be relevant to his case. u can read just this part if u find tht description too long and confusing.

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As a watery house, the eighth deals primarily with emotional exchange. As opposite from the second house, that which has physical value and meaning and which constitutes stability and self-sustenance becomes that which has emotional value and which constitutes stability of feeling. It is in the eighth sign, Scorpio, that we may find a clue to the significance of this house in matters of sex, emotional crises, and the death and rebirth of the instincts as purified desire.

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The three watery houses and signs represent three aspects of the feeling nature of man. The fourth house symbolises the nurturing forces which shape his early life. The eighth symbolises the creative and procreative forces which he wields and through which he contacts others. The twelfth symbolises the dissipating forces which eventually break down his sense of separateness and release him into group life.

The eighth house is a battleground, the primary purpose of which is self-understanding and self-mastery through constant crises. There is no greater battleground or stimulus to crisis than the energies which are released through the apparently wholly physical act of sex. The union which occurs on the level of the feeling nature produces a flow of energy which takes a man, for a brief moment, "out of himself” – it is virtually the only time that he can feel himself to be at one with another human being. It is this intimate emotional oneness to which the sexual aspect of the eighth house refers; there is a death of the individual awareness and the birth of a mutual awareness for which reason the Elizabethans called the sexual act "the little death" [le petit mort]. Unfortunately there are many people who are as frightened of the apparent emotional vulnerability inherent in this as they are of death itself. What they do not recognise is that the union takes place whether it is recognised or not, and on the feeling level it is not possible to totally shut out the partner; it is only possible to believe that he has been shut out.


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In a great many cases with Saturn in Scorpio or in the eighth house, the individual's fears or feelings of inadequacy are in the area of sexual expression. This is undoubtedly a symbol for an even deeper fear; but here the symbol is powerful enough in its own right to create great pain in the person's life. The average man who has to deal with this situation will not, however, take kindly to being told this fact bluntly by an astrological consultant. People are as prickly about sex now, when it comes to overt discussion, as they were during Victoria's time. Moreover the man's inadequacy is not a physical one but rather an emotional one; this is a watery, not an earthy, house. Saturn in the eighth is often linked with impotence or frigidity, but these are also not physical problems, and the physician who attempts to cure these problems through hormones alone is committing a grave error. The difficulty here lies in the fear of submission, of violation, of the control of the partner, and of emotional rejection, for it is the psychic rather than the physical exchange which contains the threat.

It is fairly common to find an individual with Saturn in the eighth who may be affectionate and loving but who, when the last outpost of separateness is passed in the bedroom, shies like a frightened horse and cannot perform. Or he may overcompensate for his inner fears by becoming the "perfect lover" on a purely physical level, and he may try to block the flow of energy and emotion to his partner so that he is, somehow, not really there. However subtle this mechanism is, it can be deeply frustrating and disturbing to the partner although it may not be recognised on a conscious level by either person. The individual may not be aware that anything is wrong except that somehow it is always faintly disappointing, and he is never able to achieve the satisfaction his fantasies tell him is possible. It takes an unusual degree of honesty to look directly at the subtle patterns which surround an eighth house Saturn for there is, at the same time as fear, the overcompensation of great value placed on performace in our present era. No wonder that these people have such trouble with money during and after marriage; they may easily find themselves under financial obligations concurrent with the amount of frustration they have unconsciously inflicted on their partners.

As with all Saturn positions, two extremes of behaviour are possible. The effects of overcompensation can help to produce the overtly promiscuous person who is not truly motivated by physical pleasure but who is trying particularly hard to be "sexy" because he or she is dimly aware of a fundamental problem in relating emotionally to another person. Here Saturn again tries to make an emotional value into a physical one with little success. This kind of behaviour is prevalent now because there is great emphasis on sexual freedom as the reaction to too much restriction in the past. Both are extremes which are part of the natural process of evolution but which are unpleasant in themselves for fear permeates them both.

On the other hand the person with Saturn in the eighth may cloak his fears with the garment of strong religious or moral convictions of a particularly intolerant sort, thereby declaring as sinful that of which he is essentially afraid. In these cases Saturn is a prompter toward celibacy but for all the wrong reasons. The devil, unfortunately, is not vanquished by being told to go away; it is the light of consciousness that he cannot endure.

We may also find that rare individual who is honest enough with himself to understand that there is something within himself that needs development—as there is in everyone—and who makes the effort not only to discipline but to comprehend his sexual nature as well so that he can express it in the most positive way. In all cases, however, the fascination with death and with sex is very great although there may be fear or disgust at the same time.

It seems that a characteristic pattern of the person with an eighth house Saturn is to be let down emotionally by others and often in the most intimate and painful way; and it is in this pattern that a clue to the larger purpose of the placement may be found. There is frequently a denial of deep emotional contact in childhood, and as Saturn has some connection with the father, this placement often occurs where the father dies or is emotionally cold. Often the individual grows up in an environment where very little physical expression occurs or where the sexual problems existent between the parents have filled the atmosphere with hostility and fear. There is some link between the father and the sexual energies although this may be very subtle. Often it is not subtle, and beatings or assault occur. The effect, whatever the actual circumstance, is a feeling of isolation and loneliness and the awareness that no one can share or alleviate the scars. For Saturn in the eighth house carries deeper emotional scars than any other Saturian placement, and the wounds are slower to heal.

The emotional isolation with an eighth house Saturn is even more acute than with a fourth house Saturn for the emotional needs are far more intense and directed toward individuals. It is union rather than security which is sought and union of a particularly intense and transforming kind. The individual often feels that through another he can be reborn and can achieve awareness of his spiritual nature. The lesson with Saturn, of course, is that one must do it himself; the transformation and resurrection into higher consciousness, the deep knowledge and mastery of the unconscious, must come from within the man himself. There is often a fascination with all things occult or, at the very least, an interest in the depths of the mind, and it is in utilising this interest and in learning the real nature of the energies of creation that the individual becomes a magician. The secrets of the powers of the unconscious are his, and these are literally life-giving powers for the healing of himself and others.


hope this helps u to understand your hubby better and help him with his problem

ILWL

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jani_jean
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posted January 14, 2007 09:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Inlovewithlife thankyou forur time

I can definately tell that his parents are so harmonious (leo-sag), and his relation is too attached iwth them as well.He recalls his childhood aslo with nostalgia.

Its emphasised so much here that its freewill ultimatley and astro just gives us the clues /personality /attitude .I agree.
However i want to know if u see any future for me with him..
Had a look soemtime back where they predict the future and cofnirm the past as well just with the left hand thumb impression /tiem of birth etc ) Supposed to eb very genuine /aunthetic ...It so came out for me that there is no remarriage for me ..
I am reconciling to teh fact that maybe after soem time i will get adjusted to this style where sexlife is a backseat

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IamLove
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posted January 14, 2007 09:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I know the reason why all of this is going on....

Currently....

His progresses saturn in virgo is conjunct his natal mars in virgo

Saturn= Restrictions, delays... etc.
Mars= action, pasion, sexuality... etc....
Virgo= The sign of "the virgin"

So it's all making sense....

And this is probably the reason why he is experiencing some delay in the love making area.....

I think (don't quote me on this but I think) when jupiter transits in the sign of capricorn.... he will be more inspired to want to loose his virginity....

I'm sure everything will be ok.... everything can be worked out! And the people who posted advice above me left you some EXCELLENT ideas to pursuade him into taking the next step!

And another thing! He has a moon in taurus... so he is stubborn.... he is not going to want anybody telling him when or where he should loose his virginity.....

He's going to do it when he is ready.... reguardless of who tells him.... so my advice is gentle persuasion

Gently tell him... in a soft tone of voice... while carressing his face gently..... say... "Baby I love you.... your the only man I want to be with.... that's why I married you"
Also tell him....
"It would make me so happy if we could make love to each other, I'm not trying to pressure you, I know your trying to wait, and I respect you so much for waiting this long to loose your virginity, but I really want you, I need you, your the love of my life, your my husband and I'm so greatful that God has blessed me with you, baby I need to know, what I can do, as your wife, to better please you, and reassure you that I care for you and love you dearly, please tell me"

Then wait for him to respond, while you look into his eyes lovingly

Let him talk to you.... try to stay calm... don't yell.... if he starts to yell let him.... and just comfort him... kiss him lovingly with love in your heart.... let him feel how much you really love him... hold him tightly... kissing his neck gently(taurus moon)... softly....
hold him in your arms....

then have him sit down(you sit next to him)... rub his back (leo venus) gently as you tell him "I love you ________" in a sweet tone of voice "I really love you and I need you"

Then bring him close to you and hold him gently in your arms..... and caress him...

just be yourself....

let him know how much he is loved and respected.... he needs to know how much you want and need him.... tell him that "I never loved a man more than I love you.... except for God.... and I thank God for blessing me with such a strong, intelligent man like you... you are my best friend.... your a king to me"

Him being a leo venus would be blown away if you tell him nice things about himself (true things)... leo venus men have a strong ego.... and they need to know that their partners admire them... please always be sensitive of the leo ego... lol

I wish you the VERY VERY BEST with this! And I pray that I was of some help to you in this matter!!!


Katie


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posted January 15, 2007 12:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Katie....

I know its natural to try and get info from any sources possible when u r confused. but i see a 'giving up' kind of note in your last post.... hey u r a sagg, remember? sagg- the eternal optimist!!

some things tht i'd add to wht katie has said above-

1. he is a leo venus- it usually indicates someone very romantic. and who sees sex too as love.

2. with a cancer sun and taurus moon, he has to be very emotional. please appeal to his emotions. make him feel very loved and appreciated. and it has to be genuine becoz they r able to sense any pretense. i am sure tht wall will crumble one day and he will come out with the real reason why he is afraid of making love to you. i seriously hv the feeling tht the problem is emotional rather than physical. i know of one person with this placement (saturn in 8th), and she is not able to be aroused when making love. she has never experienced orgasm. she is a cancerian too. and acc to her she needs that complete blending of the heart and soul before she can feel it. she had very 'supportive' parents, is very attached to them. but she was molested whn she was just 7-8. tht cud hv sth to do it. just my guess. so it is not necessary tht u wud know wht it is tht is causing this behaviour.

please dont lose hope....and show your love to your man as often as possible

ILWL

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posted January 15, 2007 07:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm ok i have been and will be sober , gentle with him which is queit an effort for me as i am a fre sign quite loud impulsieve etc..i have tone sdown a lot for him actually..
he is very faithful , loyal in love, tender partner, loves children , shy and conservative ,pleasant attitude, needs affcetion/petting etc ...

Question to all gals-
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Can one oversee his passivity sex for all the otehr good qualities he possesses?
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IamLove
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posted January 15, 2007 08:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I'm sure you can!!!!!

Also please give us an update on his reactions after you try the methods we suggested to you!!!


Katie

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IamLove
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posted January 15, 2007 08:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also do you two work together?

Katie

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jani_jean
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yes katie , we work togetehr in the same office...we did our apprentcie ship togeter as well..

Iamlove /inlovewithlife -one and teh same ??

i have tries cuddlingkissing before katie, he then does kissback, but gets spent in a jiffy ..i hardly know it even staretd (

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posted January 15, 2007 08:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As promised here is your synastry report!

Jani's Mercury trine Jani's Husband's Mercury:

It is easy to understand each other, as your minds work in similar styles. Making decisions together
is supported, and when communication difficulties do arise, they are readily resolved when there is
the intention to do so.

Jani's Jupiter square Jani's Husband's Jupiter:

Since what each of you finds rewarding is at odds, you need to create enough space in your
relationship for both of you to take part in the separate activities that you each find rewarding.
There could be disagreements over each other's political, religious, or philosophical beliefs.

Jani's Saturn trine Jani's Husband's Saturn:

You solve life's difficult situations in a supportive manner, allowing you to appreciate each other's
help and assistance. You are able to learn from life together, and thus can avoid making the same
mistakes over and over again.

Jani's Ascendant square Jani's Husband's Ascendant:

Your attitudes about approaching most everything conflict with each other. To have a healthy
relationship, you both are forced to stretch your acceptance of these differences to offset the
tendency to get irritated with each other.

Jani's North Node opposition Jani's Husband's North Node:

Where you have both been in previous lives and where you are going in this life are exactly
opposite. You stand face to face, each of you having been where the other person is going, and
because of this you are a valuable resource for each other. But you both are encouraged to remain
face to face and not try to change each other to your life direction.

Jani's Sun conjunct Jani's Husband's Neptune:

There is something mystical and spiritual about your tie, although it can be equally mystifying as
mystical. It is best for couples involved with spiritual or artistic activities together, where the
imagination does some good. There can be a telepathic, psychic rapport if you allow it. You must
watch out for soap-bubble dreams and all types of illusions with imaginative Neptune activated in
the relationship.

Jani's Husband's Sun trine Jani's Mars:

You are able to work and play well together, because the way you do things doesn't get in each
other's way. You rarely have a conflict of wills and readily resolve issues when they arise. You
naturally empower each other's courage and your passions flow well together.

Jani's Husband's Sun trine Jani's Pluto:

The relationship feels safe, as feelings of threat drop away when you are together. You are there
for each other when destiny calls to lend strength. You help each other stay on track with your
higher purpose in life.

Jani's Husband's Sun opposition Jani's Venus:

Your tastes and values can clash, and yet this is not entirely bad. It creates a strong sexual
attraction, though not the comfortable type; this type of fascination comes from that which is
different. The strong sexual attraction is favorable for getting the relationship going, but difficulties
can arise over differences in basic life values, making it difficult to live with each other on a
day-to-day basis.

Jani's Husband's Sun opposition Jani's Neptune:

It is not likely that you see each other clearly. Neptune is the blind spot, and when challenging the
Sun, you can lead each other into illusions. Jani sees qualities that may, or may not, be in Jani's
Husband. Jani's Husband can look at Jani as being totally ungrounded in reality.

Jani's Sun square Jani's Husband's Mars:

This tie is extremely intense and often confrontational. It is passionate, without a doubt, and very
favorable in some arenas, but arguments and battles of wills can be passionate as well. If you can't
take the heat, get out of the kitchen, with this one. You can inflame each other, and without
restraint or healthy outlets, things could turn bad.

Jani's Husband's Sun square Jani's Ascendant:

Tension exists in the way you each approach situations, and there can be a conflict of will unless
you allow for your differences. This combination is very favorable for natural magnetic attraction
between the two of you.

Jani's Moon trine Jani's Husband's Mercury:

Communication over personal issues is favored. You can always depend on each other for
understanding when needed, and this brings clarity into your lives.

Jani's Husband's Moon opposition Jani's Mercury:

Communication over emotional issues is difficult. Jani's Husband reads meaning into Jani's words
that wasn't intended. Jani has difficulty understanding Jani's Husband's emotional needs. Rational
arguments over emotional issues are likely. Words often don't help in clearing up
misunderstandings; try silence . . . look into each other's eyes, silently communicate your intent to
get through the issue, hold each other . . . it works.

Jani's Husband's Moon opposition Jani's Pluto:

Jani's Husband can feel threatened, unsafe, and powerless to withstand Jani's will. A healthy
relationship can develop only if Jani can remain conscious of the potential misuse of this power of
intimidation. Otherwise, the potential for unhealthy psychological patterns to develop between the
two of you is strong.

Jani's Moon opposition Jani's Husband's North Node:

This points to the likelihood of strong family karma from past lives impacting your relationship.
Something akin to deja vu starts the relationship off on a strong note, but it is difficult to pull out of
the past and keep growing in your relationship. Jani can feel drained by Jani's Husband's needs
unless you both stay vigilant to a path of growth and overcoming past behavior patterns.

Jani's Moon square Jani's Husband's Neptune:

It is not likely that you see each other clearly. You can imagine qualities in each other that don't
exist, or pull each other into escapist behavior, or feed each other's fears. Absolute honesty,
including avoiding "dishonesty by omission," is required for a healthy relationship.

Jani's Husband's Mercury trine Jani's North Node:

Your conversations and mental pursuits together naturally lead to each other's soul growth. You
can draw on each other for support and understanding in spiritual issues.

Jani's Mercury square Jani's Husband's Venus:

Jani communicates in a way that offends Jani's Husband's sensibilities. Jani feels Jani's Husband is
pretentious. Jani's Husband gets hurt feelings over the way Jani communicates. You would be
advised to educate each other as to these sensitivities to avoid them in the future.

Jani's Mercury square Jani's Husband's Saturn:

This aspect creates a challenge in maintaining easy, flowing communication with each other,
because Jani feels intimidated by Jani's Husband's judgments. This fear of disapproval restricts the
natural flow of conversation. There is a tendency to bring out each other's pessimistic and negative
attitudes. This can be compensated for, but there would have to be a rule: No criticizing each
other. Otherwise, this combination is a tough one.

Jani's Husband's Mercury square Jani's Jupiter:

Your learning styles are different enough that it makes it difficult to carry out intellectual projects
together without getting exasperated with each other. Jani is interested in growth that doesn't
interest Jani's Husband. Jani's Husband can seem narrow-minded and picky to Jani. Give space for
your different learning styles and interests to avoid conflict.

Jani's Venus trine Jani's Husband's Saturn:

This aspect adds stability to your relationship because you have the patience and commitment it
takes to work through the rough spots. You complement each other's lives, as Jani brings out Jani's
Husband's personal side, and Jani's Husband helps Jani keeps it together in the world.

Jani's Husband's Venus trine Jani's Jupiter:

The friendship between the two of you flows naturally and you encourage movement toward
refinement in each other's life. The arts, culture, philosophy, and socializing together are all favored.

Jani's Husband's Venus trine Jani's Ascendant:

This is a highly magnetic and sweet combination. Jani's Husband is very attracted to Jani's looks
and style. It is easy to love one another, and interests in the arts, entertainment, and culture are
favored.

Jani's Husband's Venus square Jani's Pluto:

Karmic patterns of manipulating each other in love, either through guilt or intimidation, must be
dealt with in your relationship. Strong passion can exist between the two of you, but intimacy will
elude you until you are both able to let go of control and surrender to the relationship.

Jani's Venus square Jani's Husband's North Node:

Your tastes, both in terms of pleasure and soul-growth activities, are not in synch with each other.
Since neither of you values the other person's taste in clothes, style, art, beauty, and social
activities, this aspect has a diminishing effect on the magnetism between you.

Jani's Husband's Mars trine Jani's Neptune:

This combination is excellent for romance as it brings the best of imagination into your passion. You
can inspire each other creatively in all types of ways, and the danger of the blind spot with Neptune
is minimized.

Jani's Husband's Mars sextile Jani's Pluto:

You draw hidden strength from each other and thus are great allies for one another. You inspire
each other to the right use of will and power in ways that benefit everyone. You feel safe with each
other, from the physical activities of Mars, to the deep mysteries of Pluto's interests.

Jani's Mars opposition Jani's Husband's Chiron:

Jani's Husband feels threatened by Jani's insensitivity, and feels unsafe in revealing vulnerabilities.
Jani feels Jani's Husband to be too sensitive, as if Jani has to walk on eggshells not to arouse
sensitivities. And that is exactly the path that works best--treat the sensitivities of Jani's Husband
with sensitivity.

Jani's Jupiter trine Jani's Husband's Saturn:

You work well together on career and professional matters, as well as all issues of handling
responsibility together. You are especially effective at planning together and follow a step-by-step
approach to getting to your shared goals.

Jani's Jupiter trine Jani's Husband's Neptune:

Mysticism and philosophical exchanges are favored with this combination, and your discussions
help you both rise above the petty issues in life to gain a more inspired view.

Jani's Husband's Jupiter trine Jani's Pluto:

You can support and take part in mutual interests in travel, education, philosophy, and mysticism.
You encourage each other to reach for goals that benefit society as well as yourselves.

Jani's Jupiter opposition Jani's Husband's Pluto:

There is an unconscious pattern of competition between the two of you, and you can goad each
other into grander and grander displays of one-upmanship. There can be a natural mistrust of each
other's moral and ethical values in how you approach goals.

Jani's Jupiter square Jani's Husband's Ascendant:

Many disagreements can erupt because your basic beliefs about so many life issues are at odds
with each other. These arguments aren't so hot as to be threatening, with Jupiter involved, but Jani's
Husband can experience Jani 's beliefs about education, religion, and politics to be way off base.

Jani's Saturn conjunct Jani's Husband's Neptune:

The best of this combination is when Jani grounds Jani's Husband's imagination and helps find ways
of manifesting this in the world. It is also favorable when Jani's Husband inspires Jani to open to a
reality beyond worldly responsibilities. The low road is when Jani doubts and disapproves of Jani's
Husband's imagination, or when Jani's Husband erodes Jani's strength to carry out responsibilities
through guilt or fear.

Jani's Husband's Saturn trine Jani's Uranus:

This combination is favorable for working together to fulfill responsibilities of any kind. Jani
encourages Jani's Husband to be innovative in career considerations, while Jani's Husband helps
ground Jani's ideas.

Jani's Husband's Saturn sextile Jani's Chiron:

There can be mutual interest in serious, scholarly studies and pursuits related to health and healing.
You have a steadying influence on each other's path of moving forward in the healing process, and
you are there for each other in times of need.

Jani's Husband's Uranus conjunct Jani's Pluto:

You are catalysts for each other to pursue interests beyond the ego. You could fuel each other's
interest in social/cultural change, or animate each other's spiritual interests. Your relationship may
take on a greater purpose and get pulled into some type of movement together, as in the
consciousness movement, the peace movement, or other important social causes.

Jani's Uranus square Jani's Husband's North Node:

This aspect presents the challenge of accepting each other's decidedly different views on what
constitutes a growth-oriented path. Jani's Husband views Jani as being totally unpredictable and
unreliable, while Jani thinks it important to shock Jani's Husband into awakening from not seeing
the big picture.

Jani's Neptune conjunct Jani's Husband's Ascendant:

A highly intuitive, mystical, and psychic connection exists between the two of you. Relationships
that include artistic and spiritual pursuits are highly favored. If neither person is skilled in a healthy
use of the imagination, this aspect can create illusions about the relationship that are not grounded
in reality. Make sure you consider the whole picture, best- and worst-case scenarios, before acting
on your inspirations together to avoid the dangers of Neptune's blind spot.

Jani's Husband's Neptune trine Jani's Ascendant:

This is a favorable aspect that allows Jani's Husband to help Jani rise above petty issues, and Jani
to help Jani's Husband follow spiritual and creative vision. Involvements in the arts and spiritual
activity together are highly favored.

Jani's Neptune trine Jani's Husband's Chiron:

You two have an intuitive awareness of the role of imagination in healing. You can work with each
other in the subtlest realms of spiritual and vibrational healing. You intuitively understand the power
of prayer in healing work with each other.

Jani's Neptune square Jani's Husband's North Node:

You are working through karmic patterns of deception and the tendency to lead each other down
paths that ultimately lead to disillusionment. It is important for both of you to compensate for this
potential blind spot in your relationship by checking within your own heart of hearts for clarity
before following each other's lead.

Jani's Pluto sextile Jani's Husband's Ascendant:

You support the deepest type of spiritual transformation in each other and can be a source of
hidden strength for each other.

Jani's Husband's Pluto opposition Jani's Ascendant:

Jani can feel intimidated by Jani's Husband because of something that neither of you is conscious
of. This makes it difficult to have a relationship until trust is established. You see each other's
idiosyncrasies and subconscious behavior patterns. It takes great sensitivity of delivery to discuss
such issues without arousing your partner's defenses.

Jani's Pluto opposition Jani's Husband's Chiron:

With this aspect, it is as if you know secrets about each other that could be quite wounding if
publicly revealed. You are being tested with the right use of this power to wound each other. Will
you hold each other hostage with these secrets? Or will you pass the test and be able to be trusted
with each other's vulnerable secrets?

Jani's Husband's North Node square Jani's Chiron:

Jani's Husband's path toward healing is at odds with Jani's path of soul growth. You are being
tested with the ability to accept that what is growth-oriented for you is not a healthy path for your
partner.



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yes katie , we work togetehr in the same office...we did our apprentcie ship togeter as well..
Iamlove /inlovewithlife -one and teh same ??

i have tries cuddlingkissing before katie, he then does kissback, but gets spent in a jiffy ..i hardly know it even staretd (


LOL I knew it!

The reason why I asked you this is because your mercury and venus is in his 10th house!

Astrology is so amaizing sometimes... but free will is also very amaizing!

And don't give up... continue to kiss him and talk sweet to him... tell him all the nice things you said about him above.... tell him that you appreciate how loyal and loving he is... and the fact that he loves children.... etc.

Boost his ego a little

And don't give up.....
Keep being sweet to him and he'll loosen up...

And please continue to talk nicely to him... in a nice, sweet (loving) tone of voice.... that always helps!!!!!

Katie

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