posted November 27, 2004 09:47 AM            

I get repeatedly teased/questioned last night at work by an Aries sun Scorpio moon guy coworker about whether I "like" the Libra/Gemini...he says he thinks the Libra/Gemini likes me alot, and asks if we've gone to a movie yet... I ask him how he knows about that? He responds that he hangs out with everyone and just knows things...

Wow, and I'll see the Libra/Gemini at work today. Who knows what'll happen.

posted November 30, 2004 12:42 PM            

It takes a little of the pressure off, I hope.

posted November 30, 2004 02:02 PM              

Guys are more shy and vulnerable than ladies. Just my opinion though, because society expects them to pursue goals, but doesn't provide supportive ground for when they are rejected. So, when you think about it . . . they are at the plate for lots of rejection.

They strategize and assess their odds of whether the woman will say "Yes, I'd love to hang out with you!" or give the silent pause . . .

Then again, there are some men who believe that ignoring a woman will derive more attention. These are the ones you want to stay away from. If they are like this before serious dating, then it is likely that they won't know HOW TO LOVE a woman in relationship.

It's really up to you what you want to do about the note. Body language does wonders. If you give body language that says you're warm, charming and attractive, he'll feel more invited to take a chance in communicating with you.

posted November 30, 2004 03:30 PM            

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They strategize and assess their odds of whether the woman will say "Yes, I'd love to hang out with you!" or give the silent pause . . .

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I've definitely met the other guys you mentioned, the ones who play mind games about giving, then withholding attention, they're too much energy-drain. So you don't think this applies to him, given what I've said so far, right?

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It's really up to you what you want to do about the note. Body language does wonders. If you give body language that says you're warm, charming and attractive, he'll feel more invited to take a chance in communicating with you.

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I gave him some inviting body language on Sunday. I do have issues with giving the impression of warmth, so a greater degree than strangers get, because I'm very touchy, literally, I like reassuring pats on the shoulder, back, arm, etc. and love the thrill I feel from giving the same.

What is important about post 60? Do you mean that it reduces to number 6, the number of Venus and love?

posted November 30, 2004 06:05 PM              

It would be hard to answer the above questions posed because I don't have subjective observations that friends in person would.

I could totally relate with you about not being clear with what are the boundaries between dating and friends when I was your age (Late teens to early twenties). I used to imagine a lot about what guys would do to clearly indicate they were romantically interested in me. I mean, some of us don't know these things and all we have is imagination until the real thing comes along.

Back then, sometimes I thought the guy and I were only hanging out as friends and he thought it was a date, or I was interested in dating and the guy was only on the friendship train of thought.

This is a confusing time for you, and I empathize It's awkward when we are shy, while at the same time developing the courage to try out new hats.

What do you think? I know you've written letters and poems to guys before, but don't remember if you actually sent them . . . ?

posted December 03, 2004 01:57 PM            

Yes, you're right, Amy, I have written leters/poems to guys before, but only sent to one guy, the Taurus/Pisces/Gemini ("R" the jerk). All of my Gemmy's poems have not been read or mentioned to him, only the heartfelt letters.

So...
You think I should go ahead with that giving him a note thing?
Cause I'm hesitant to write anything more personal, given that we are relative stangers and I don't know him well enough outside of work.

posted December 06, 2004 09:51 AM            

Maybe I'll give him my number, I mean, this weekend, I asked him if he still wanted to hang out sometime, and he didn't exact give a definite response, if I remember a nod/shrug.

Have fun with your Aqua, and I'd love to keep discussing this with you, expecially since we're going through similar situations. What questions are on your mind today about Aqua boy?

Gloria, thanks for your response. Why would there be "guilt" associated with 'hurting a woman' if they never get clsoe enough to have any impact either way?
Is your advice that they are worth the effort generally, or no?

posted December 06, 2004 10:58 AM            

Saturday-We talked a little after 15 minutes of silence and I basically, instead of giving him the note, as planned, asked about when he was off school, and then simply asked him straight out of he still wanted to hang out sometime? I was so nervous saying that, I don't clearly remember the response, but it wasn't negative...I fumbled around so much in general, what can I say? He then stayed up in the break room until my lunch break was over (which meant he was late punching back in, not unusual for him, but?). Then, on the way back to us both punching in, he asked me a sorta random weird question: "Could I ever write a 10 paragraph poem about a person I loved, in like an hour...", then he added, "...for an class assignment?" I was like, "of course!" (you know that Virgo Merc loves to write, poetry of all things ), and I went on, "..in maybe like a half-hour, cause words come easy to me", then added, "I even wrote a 2 page poem about a guy and sent it to him one time..."
???Wasn't that a strange conversation???
He then came over to my register, and started talking for a while, and since it was slow and I was cleaning the register area and belt, piped up and offered to help. So nice. Then he made some statement like " oh, I have something so say, that'll make you slap me, but I can't say it in front of the customers...". by the time the customer flow slowed down, his shift had ended.

Sunday-We talked again, briefly during my combination lunch/break, and as he was leaving, I asked him what he whad been about to say yesterday, and he first said he'd say it, but he had to get a running start first...then said, no, on second thought, it was just a rude comment and he was a nice guy...

posted December 06, 2004 11:53 AM              

I think it depends if you are the type who does not mind taking control and responsibility all the time.

Me personally, my Venus & Pluto Conjunct in Virgo in the 4th, my Moon in Cancer, plus my somewhat androgynous Libra Sun is better suited for a more "even partnership" type relationship.

posted December 06, 2004 02:59 PM            

I LOVE men..I LOVE men friends. All my life I have hung out with males. They just seemed to offer a friendship without strings. I could hike, play sports or just shoot the breeze and NEVER have to worry about this icky emotional catty crud that I experienced with my close women friends.

BUT..at some time they would end up crushing on me and I would have to nip that in the bud. Nipping in the bud meant either 1) They were relegated to the "oh you're like a bro" category 2) Ummm, your hot but I wouldn't date you - but I might kiss you once in a while 3) Maybe this can grow into a major relationship - which did happen a few times.

I also hug my guy friends, but in a manner that is more playful and not a full on hug. Like when I approach them, I do it from the side and will put an arm around them. If I feel they are starting to get the wrong impression I will flat out state "Hey, I don't want you to get the wrong idea about all this okay?"

The men that seem to have the hardest time being just a friend - Virgo's, followed by Aquarians and sometimes Leo's. Taurus men seem to be okay with it- maybe because they seem to enjoy having female friends. My Taurus does have platonic female friends that he keeps in touch with- it's not a problem..I mean I can't he a hypocrit since I do have male friends.

posted December 06, 2004 03:43 PM              

Good for you for asking him in person!

How are you feeling about that?

posted December 07, 2004 11:26 AM            

I've been claiming that I wanted an "even partnership", but until I find myself in one by chance, I'm not sure that's what I truly want...totally even can result in neutral/boring/obligatory fairness/excessive balance, which to me, equals= NO action.

Who knows, really? I'm still figuring all this relationship fine details thing out.

posted December 07, 2004 06:13 PM              

And the "equal" thing by no means sitting at the round table every time a decision needs to be made. With the right chemistry, I would hope it just works out that way without too much fanfare.