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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 03, 2005 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I borrowed that from the movie "Shawn of the Dead". It just means he looks yummy, too good to be true.

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maya-v
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posted February 03, 2005 05:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh ... forgive my ignorance and thanks .. he is adorable

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 03, 2005 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no problem
thats what im here for

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GeminiAries
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posted February 03, 2005 06:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Either get back on the topic of my broken heart or get your own web page. You two should get a room.

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maya-v
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posted February 03, 2005 06:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geez - these arians and their attention issues!

No, Im just kidding, Gem, sweetie ... tell me how you're doing. Have you made up your midn yet? Are you gonna keep trying to break down the stone-iron wall or climb up your own high tower and wait for him to knock? I would take the second, more dignified approach even though people like stingy here think its better to pine away than to rise!

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posted February 03, 2005 06:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...I don't mind repeating my comment...that Scorpio/Horses certainly have that "wow" factor.

Maya-v, what IS it about you? You are a magnet for Scorpios!!!
But you also seem quite genuinely sweet, and I think Scorpios warm to that.

LOL

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GeminiAries
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posted February 03, 2005 10:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im gonna do both keep trying to break down the stone-iron wall and climb up my own high tower and wait for him to knock. Cant help it, I love him.

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posted February 04, 2005 07:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do what you feel is right, GeminiAries. Just don't stress out too much, and show him you like him. You're getting there, don't worry.

LOL
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maya-v
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posted February 04, 2005 09:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But, sweet Gem, feel very free to vent and cry on our rather large shoulders - we are always there for you!

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GeminiAries
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posted February 04, 2005 11:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He called last night at 11:29 pm. he told me that he had a tough week and that he was thinking of me. I asked him to come over to talk and he said that at 11:30pm he didnt want to talk and that he wanted to be in bed with me and to let our body do the talking. Whatever, I told him that I just wanted to see him and reminded him we had plenty of nights of talking without sex. ................... Then I told him goodnight and hung up. He is off to the super bowl with "friends".
I get so nervous when he talks about the sex over the phone. In person its great!
I know its to find out where iam but cant he tell that i want a commiment first. Then sex....
Sex causes conflict

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maya-v
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posted February 04, 2005 01:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL Gem - that was close. No, I agree you cannot fall into that routine again. Its so easy for guys to say that sex can solve a lot of problems but in the morning, its us girls who are left with a fistful of stardust ... the moment you open your fist, its all gone!

But Im so glad you guys are finally talking again ... although dont you just hate the hold some men have on us ... we fall so easily into the pattern of sane and reasonable when they are around and the moment they leave - we're back to the simpering boiling neurotic mess with a million unanswered questions!

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GeminiAries
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posted February 04, 2005 01:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amen

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maya-v
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posted February 04, 2005 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK I am abt to freak out - for real. Right after I read this post, my Sag turns up, all romantic and lovey and in full mood to cuddle and everything that comes with it. It might have somethign to do with the fact that I have been unavailable to him recently and avoiding the issue of 'US' and where we are relationship while ... a taste of his own medicine too bitter for him

Id like to ask more knowing souls here to tell me if there is something going on with the stars that is making all men go crazy that way!

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Isis
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posted February 04, 2005 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I must admit first of all that I haven't read all five pages of this thread, so please forgive me if I repeat anything that's already been said.

I'm a Scorp - Five planets in Scorp (Venus incl, Moon in Libra tho).

And yes, one CAN say, "my Scopio"

If a Scorpio is interested in someone, that someone would have no doubt. We're too intense for someone to miss that.

It's also been my experience that Virgos are one of the few signs that can intimidate us, because they are one of the few signs who have the same level of integrity that we consider ourselves to have. Even if the Scorp isn't into astrology, they can sense that this person is honorable, honest, and judgemental (just like us). And we HATE being judged, ironically enough, being that we can do quite a bit of judging ourselves. The other thing that is intimidating is that Virgos can come across so..virginous, we would hate to put our kinky weird selves out there and be judged for being weird or bad by the Virgin (cause while we revel in it, we don't want to be judged for it lol)...

We hold back at first, some of us maybe, because the feelings are so intense and we fear getting hurt, or we fear that our emotions don't make us see clearly (or is that just my Libra moon? heh), or we fear that our intensity will freak the person out and drive them away. But once we decide to go for it...

Well, this analogy says it best IMO.

Some people wade into a pool slowly...and others just jump in, deal with the intial shock of the cold, cause they know as soon as their body gets over the initial shock they'll be fine. Scorpios take a running leap into the pool. Or we don't get in at all. There are, I'm sure exceptions, this is just based on my personally, and the few Scorps, men and women, that I know.

But you can say, "My Scorpio". Just because we hold part of ourselves back doesn't mean we're not "yours", if we love you.

And if a Scorp is interested, you will know it. We are more known for freaking people out with the forwardness and intensity of our love, than being aloof holding back emotionally.

Anyway, that's just my take one it.

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GeminiAries
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posted February 04, 2005 05:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maya_v
How wonderful im happpy for you. You said that you were unavailable to him? should I try that, or will that backfire in my case.

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posted February 04, 2005 05:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sweet Gem, I had to work very hard to understand my emotions for my archer. I had to go through hell to come to terms with my insane need for him. He was sub-consciously picking on my need and when we had the fight where he broke up with me, it was a blessing. I went on for ten days without any real contact with him. But in that period, I fell in love with someone else - myself. I realised how wonderful it was to be me and how blessed I was to have all that I did in my life. I discovered I didnt need him or any man to complete me. And now, when he is back, I am so glad, but no, I am not going to depend on him for my happiness. I am not sure I want to be his woman or his wife, if I want to share physical intimacy with him or if I want to go along on his adventures and fly his numerous kites with him. All I am sure of is I am not ready to be the pursuant again and if he needs me that bad, he will have to pursue me!

Its kinda disenchanting to discover the feet of clay on your idol and kinda disheartening to see the statue crumble. But it also brings you closer to your personal truth and liberates you from all the illusionary hold they had on you. Now Im a free bird, true life is not always sweet but I have come to love all its bittersweet pleasures and thank God for my awakening.

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sthenri
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posted February 04, 2005 06:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I agree, GeminiAries, that you did the right thing by waiting for him to call, it sounds like you are on the right track now!

Good Luck with him and keep up the commitment talk, tell him a very lucky man will receive all your attention someday, if he wants to be that man, he has to let you know, because that man will commit to you, every night and every day. And if he can't drop everything to do that right now, then he has no business leaving you alone.

It feels more like he dropped you emotionally that week he didn't call, he has some issues with "being good enough" probably,
there are things he could do,
make your coffee in the morning for one thing, help out around the house, in your job, the challenge with Gemini/Aries women, and I am one too, is that they do EVERYTHING for the guy, so he doesn't feel he has anything to do.

Make sure you give him somethings to do for you, so he feels powerful, he could drive you to an apt. for example, or help you make dinner. Be sure to share and open up with your vulnerabilities, but not physically.

I have Gemini/Mercury/3rd house, and Mercury is the ruler of my midheaven, plus I have Venus in Aries, and Mars rules my Ascendant, so I really, really relate to coming on strong.

Be patient with yourself, remember you are a fabulous woman and you have to keep it together for yourself, with any man. He's trying to be a "real man", but he's not assertive like you. Let him become assertive, don't fill the gap.

Take Care,
Natasha

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GeminiAries
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posted February 04, 2005 09:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natasha
Great advise but you really think that "he has some issues with "being good enough"? I would of never thought of that.The thing is that when he comes on strong and wants to spend time with me, its the scariest thing. In the back of my mind im thinking that its a joke. but to tell you the turth, I do tend to take over and take care of everything. I love taking care of him I want too also.
I agree with you when you said "It feels more like he dropped you emotionally that week he didn't call," That was painful, because when he needed me, he found me and now his all better the hell with me?
My mind is racing, do you think that he avoided me all that week because he was upset with my decline to join him for dinner? Or else he was embarrassed that he cried and opened up.
Anyway Scorp live for revenge!

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ariestiger
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posted February 05, 2005 06:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I think Scorpios can be remarkably straightforward if one allows for it. I think if mutual respect, honesty and support is agreed on early on, the outcome can be very good indeed. They definetely aren't afraid of confronting emotional issues.

GeminiAries, DO show him that you like him, but also DO be prepared for the intensity, and (since you are both single) I think you both need to accept the fact that in theory that does not prevent you from seeing or dating others. Unless, of course, you both REALLY want to make a go of it. I think you should date each other, experience talking to each other, more before becoming intimate.
If he phones and you can't manage to see him one night, suggest another night. Don't avoid him if you really are interested, he does need to know you are not playing games with him. Actually, as I've discovered, playing games doesn't do anybody any favours.
I can understand Linda Goodman's comment that "remaining detached in the face of a Scorpionic romantic assault requires an objectivity most Rams don't possess". I also have a feeling that Scorpios like to set the pace of a relationship. Whether fast or slow. So I think the best advice is - to BE THERE for the time being, show him you care, let the relationship proceed naturally, and try not to freak out!!
Ideally, sex shouldn't be causing conflict, rather enhancing your relationship. Don't be scared of him. Just tell him that you don't want sex too soon, if that is how you feel. Be straightforward, explain the situation to him. On the other hand - if you feel confident enough and you have seen quite a bit more of each other - if he wants you, go with it, and see what happens. I don't know how sound this advice is, but if you want him and he wants you, neither of you can hang around for ever. What are you waiting for?
Maybe pay him a visit, and if he's not in that day, don't be disappointed, try another day.

LOL!!!

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posted February 05, 2005 12:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isis,

I've got a question abut Scorpio intensity, and their hang-ups about whether they're good enough for the other person.

What about a situation in which they can sense that the other person is equally intense, and feels just the same regarding them??!

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GeminiAries
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posted February 05, 2005 12:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great advise.
"remaining detached in the face of a Scorpionic romantic assault requires an objectivity most Rams don't possess". I read Linda's book also.
But do you think that he has hang ups about not "being good enough for me?
I show him that I like him, I just dont want to get hurt, sex would be great I fantasize about him every night. I went out with another guy for three month this past summer and hated it. All I thought about was my scorp. you know that song,"IF I cant have you I rather be by myself" right now my heart is with him. Im in no rush to date. Funny enough an Aries called me last night for a date I said NO

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themeanreds
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posted February 06, 2005 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for themeanreds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh gosh, Im about to lose it. Ive read through this entire post and forgive me for being blunt ...

but this all sounds like a bunch of bullsh*t!!!

(and this is just my opinion based on what I've read so take it with a grain of salt)

Geminiaries you sound like a wonderful, sweet, dedicated person who is willing to go to the ends of the earth for someone you care about. My only problem is that this guy doesn't seem worth going to the corner for. I think he is a selfish, erratic, game player who has you wrapped around his little finger.

I think he comes to you when he pleases and how he pleases with no concern about your feelings or wishes or what's going on in your life. When he wants you then you should come, when he says jump you should ask, "how high" He seems like a master manipulator.

You say you love him, but how can you love someone who seems to treat you so poorly? It almost seems as if you love the idea of him. It seems like you are placing too high of expectations on him and you are building him up to more then what he is. This sounds like lust and obsession, not love.

If he really was into this relationship as you are then I think he would be at your front door step right now, no! he would have been there weeks ago and ended all this "what if, what about, what should I do" drama. This just sounds like he wants you to be the shoulder he cries on when no one else around and the person lying in his bed when the sheets get cold.

I think, if he was that committed to the "relationship" (or the possibility of there being one) then he would have made his move. This all sounds like he is jerking you around and stringing you along. It really seems like YOU are the ONLY one in this relationship doing anything. Making the effort and shouldering all the pain.

No relationship is perfect but this doesn't even sound like a relationship, it sounds like you're the whipping boy.

and once again I apologize for being so blunt and ... well downright rude but it pains my heart to watch/read about a genuinely nice person being treating so poorly.

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posted February 06, 2005 05:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think all guys worry a bit about whether girls are going to like them. They can also feel insecure about approaching. There is no hard and fast rule that you can apply to all men and women. Maybe indicate to him that he has nothing to worry about!

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posted February 06, 2005 07:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is selfish to love someone today and not care about what happens tomorow, but GeminAries, is thinking about her future, not the Scorps. She's not paying his Credit card bill, she is worrying about her level of commitment. She is worrying about her future, who is he to be perfect?

She has to get her needs in order, it doesn't matter for who, mentally and emotionally she has come a long way.

Sometimes, it's good to care about today, if you feel someone is down, and I would talk to the Scorp to ask how he is, and if he sounds down, then ask him to let you make him dinner Somtime when he feels like it. That way you open the door. Then it's okay to care just for today, it's not selfish, but sex goes with the FUTURE, for a woman who is emotional, there is no other way.

It's hard but every relationship is about adjusting, and making small compromises to be part of someone's life, making a connection.

I am still of the opinion that if your lives are together enough, you could live together, with minimal compromise, that is you don't have to have sex at all. You could invite him over for dinner, cook, then another night he could stay late, and then another night spend the night without sex, and then another time two nights, and then a week, with one night of sex, and then a month, and gradually see how it goes.

That's how you take your time, and become part of someone's life, getting him to get to know YOU.

Then if it's not working, he can move out, and talk about what went wrong, it takes some faith and getting used to, and you have to have your life and emotions together to handle ANY man.

So I am more concerned with GeminiAries's needs and wants, and how she has defined and communicated them to the Scorpio.

Take Care, Natasha

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posted February 07, 2005 09:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im nobodys' whipping boy!

You are right, I dont have a relationship with him.I want one. Indeed, he called me when he was down and out. Thanks for your response. Also Natasha I am aware of my feelings and know how far I can take them and I am aware of emotions. This site helps me in dealing with the biggest love ache i've been through thanks for your honesty.

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