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Topic: one can ever say "My Scorpio"?
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blue flame
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posted December 27, 2004 06:16 PM
 
never can or will they ever be yours, mine or anyone elses....
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the one i would like to call mine (after 4 years of a non-rltnshp) has resurfaced again...
yes, i know you've all read about this particular scorp and me a few times too many - always the same story - come here, go away -
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so we finally had a talk and discovered that we're both crazy about one another and agree that there is no one else that compares to either one of us or is anyway like us...after this revelation, i asked, what the problem was...his answer, "i don't know...it'll work itself out in time.."
well time is running out..i gave him a holiday card with this poem i wrote: passed the last honeysuckle miles ago.
tempted to pull the sweet nectar from its core,
i left it there entact and full...
perhaps one day in passing,
i'll return to find it's essence waiting to be pulled by me. *
if that's not a virgo telling a scorpio "i love you and have waited for you", i don't know what is...
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my fear:
he'll read this and run for fear of needing to take action...
all i want is for him to either embrace me or let me go...
i can't let him go until he lets me go...i'm concerned that this will last another lifetime...i'm concerned that this is blocking potential reciprocation from other men that i'm completely blind to...
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oh scorn scorpios and their magnetism that i love so much! <3 virgo on the edge of shamelessness and smiling :-) IP: Logged |
whiterabbit
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posted December 27, 2004 08:43 PM
I think (and you can totally ignore this) that everyone deserves to feel security in a relationship if that is what they want to feel. I think everyone deserves reciprocity for the love they extend to another. I also think that everyone deserves to be told when that will not be so and they can in turn lick their wounds, and attempt to find what they need and want somewhere else. From a totally non-astrological perspective, your situation sounds as if you are being emotionally abused, manipulated, and your immense love is being taken advantage of. Unless you want this kind of fleeting thing- do you? If not it sounds to me like this is a dangerous situation with potential for a lot of wasted years and a lot of pain. And if after so many years of knowing each other you are still apprehensive about telling him your feelings- well that tells me there is far too much instability and lack of trust than there should be after all this time. IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted December 27, 2004 08:52 PM
Wonderful poem, it had this Scorpio thinking deeply.
If he finally comes around, I hope the nectar tastes as sweet.
My advice?
You seem to wonder whether your heart belonging to him has put off any other would-be suitors. How does this make you feel? Is he worth waiting for, will he come around? * You know in your heart of hearts* Or do you want suitors to help you move on?
Either way, you know your worth... show it.  IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted December 27, 2004 09:57 PM
What are his aspects like? Virgos like to have a hold on their partners, and feel they want to be secure in a relationship. But some people have a neurotic fear of certain words. Mine is girlfriend, I hate being called that but I love the way it feels. So possibly he is a complicated guy. Has he said I love you yet?Natasha
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posted December 27, 2004 10:33 PM
virgos are demonstative (as you clearly are) scorpios are not, perhaps that is part of the intrigue here. i have no advice for you, but want to express how much i like your poem. touching! sitting here smelling the honeysuckle (smile). ps. i'm virgo too! IP: Logged |
whiterabbit
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posted December 27, 2004 11:46 PM
Ok I was a little emotional writing my response and I failed to mention how beautiful your poem is..I agree..it's just perfect.IP: Logged |
Lauren Leigh
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posted December 28, 2004 02:09 AM
I don't believe anyone can ever quite say "My Scorpio" but I hope someday I'll be proved wrong...  IP: Logged |
steelrose
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posted December 28, 2004 08:44 AM
I think they are yours, they really are, as anyone else can be... Thatīs if they truly love you.If you were the one probably you wouldnīt have to ask that question... Theyīd focus on you, with their intensity and scrutiny and theyīd expect the same deal of devotion in return. They are passionate about the people they know... Sometimes itīs difficult to understand how they show it... But then you know... They may hurt you with their cruel twists or appear to be frozen in the outside... Itīs just a mask... Look at their eyes. They are the most honest people Iīve ever met. Especially about emotions. I know two Scorpio men especially well. The first of them was a Soul Mate. I saw how the relationship was with his ex girlfriend. He clearly didnīt love her, affection after years together is not love. He wasnīt hers because he was mine and he could never fake it. The second one is my ex-boyfriend. He never loved me enough, that was obvious, not even close. He was still in love with his ex-wife and I believe, he will always be. In love with memories. But he never lied. He never cheated. And I respect him for that, so much that Iīm working hard in keeping him as a friend even when it hurts like hell thinking that he was never mine. He was hers. Of course they can be yours. If they love you... but would you belong to someone you donīt truly love? Iīm a Virgo, like you... And I wouldnīt accept less than 100%. It has to be true love, pure love, my Twin Soul. I know how it hurts when you think you found it, especially if heīs a Scorpio... I knew, even before starting, my ex wasnīt for me... But he appeared so sure, I wanted to give him a chance... And with time, you learn to love them... in a different way... And even knowing he didnīt love me in the way he should, knowing that he wasnīt mine, it hurt like hell leaving him behind. A Scorp can be yours, more than anyone else... Good luck!!! Give him a chance anyway... Your heart will tell you  IP: Logged |
maya-v
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posted December 28, 2004 09:44 AM
That Pluto has got it in for me!OK This might be a little shocking and an eye-opener to a lot fo women but its true so maybe it will help someone ... I am a sun Taurus, moon Pisces, Virgo rising woman. I have been blessed by the merciful venus in more ways than one. I never had aproblem with my relationships, basically because ever since guys started noticing me - all I've attracted are Scorpios! Since I was 15, I have had so many Scorpios pursue me, its unbelieveable. And they are all hot, sexy, ambitious, passionate guys who have really fallen in love and are looking for long-term commitment. I ended up marrying one too, and even today, every man I ever talk to, even on a friendly level, turns out to be a Scorpio! And as is true with everything they do, once they do set their sights on me, its a 100% commitment, long term, passinoate obsessive thing for them. Its so freaky that even when I am in a chat room, annonymously, if any guy Ims me, it is a scorpio! And whats even more scary is the seven guys that I met online, who I thought would make great friends, all ended up propsing to me! Any woman in my shoes would be thrilled to bits, because Scorpio men are the most desirable on the entire arch of sun signs. But the reason I am not leaping for joy is because I've been there, in fact no other woman I knwo knows these men better than me. And once you do enter their circle, its not all fun and games. I have been subjected to unbelieveable controlling natures, intolerable jealousy, staunch overbearing dsicipline and unending mind games. They are passionate, yes, but mostly that passionis directed towards their ideals and goals, their dreams and their realities. It gets stiffling after a point, I feel like I am in a gilded cage, with all the passion and love but no air, no freedom of thought and imagination. Dont get me wrong. I still feel incredibly lucky to have attracted the most amazing people in the world. But trust me, its not fun standing too close to the sun. After a while, it got to a point where I had to break away, break free and find room to breathe. I am now trying to form a life long friendship with a carefree capricious archer and even though he offers no guarantees, I can finally breathe and find room to grow. And even though the uncertainity sometimes kills me, I would never give up my hard earned freedom for the fiery hot Plutonic dungeons of my former love. Hope this posting helps some of you find out what its really like to bond with an unstable, bubbling volcano of intensity. IP: Logged |
ariestiger
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posted December 28, 2004 10:15 AM
What about if you're a fiery, hot, bubbling volcano yourself???"Fine," says Linda Goodman. "...Then it's simply a matter of degree of heat." maya-v, I loved your post. LOL AriesTiger IP: Logged |
maya-v
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posted December 28, 2004 11:12 AM
Ariestiger ... as long as you know what you are doing ... Good Luck! But dont let them curb the fountain of Mars enthusiasm and energy in you! My Venus is in Aries, I had to fight extra hard for my belief in magic and fairies and miracles. My archer is a magician, hypnotist and astrologer, the flow of energy and wisdom never stops! I feel like we believe in the same things and its so magical when we communicate. I am so lucky to have him and I hope things works for you and your Scorpio too! Good luck, sweetie. IP: Logged |
ariestiger
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posted December 28, 2004 11:22 AM
Hi maya-v,The Scorpio I know is totally inspiring, energizing, invigorating and makes me want to be better at everything I do. Okay - maybe a slight competitive element comes into it - we like doing very similar things - but that is good, it excites me. (He's a Scorpio/Horse)
There's no fear of his curbing my Mars enthusiasm. I'm pretty self-confident!!! IP: Logged |
Plutonian
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posted December 28, 2004 01:15 PM
met a scorp 6 months ago, it felt totally like soul mate connection (i'm a scorp, myself). he speaks my mind and i speak his intense passionate likes & dislikes. one fateful night, i told him about my feelings for him. he disappeared. after a week, i kept my ego away and decided to get in touch with him. he responded and i found out that he too enjoyed my presence, jus that he din dare to contact me. i later found that his venus is in saggie, a wander-ling. IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted December 28, 2004 01:37 PM
blue flame -What other Virgo/Mercury/6th House influences do you have, including aspects? My Venus & Pluto Conjunct in Virgo in my 4th has to watch for a tendency to choose "pure love" over relating to those around me. ------------------
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blue flame
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posted December 28, 2004 03:32 PM
thank you all for your honest feedback! i never expected so many responses! but then again, it's a scorpio post...ASTRO JUNKIE - OUR CHARTS ARE BELOW: THANKS~ HIM:
Sun in Scorpio
Moon in Libra
Ascendant in Sagittarius
Jupiter - 2ND HOUSE
Venus = 1ST HOUSE
Saturn = 7TH HOUSE
Moon = 10TH HOUSE
Sun = 11TH HOUSE
Neptune Conjunct Ascendant ME:
Sun in Virgo
Moon in Gemini
Ascendant in Libra
Venus = 10TH HOUSE
Pluto Conjunct Ascendant
Moon = 8TH HOUSE
Venus = 10TH HOUSE
Sun = 11TH HOUSE
Saturn = 12TH HOUSE
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astro junkie
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posted December 28, 2004 05:00 PM
blue flame -Thanks for that info, but it does not say much about any Virgo/Mercury/6th House stuff. Perhaps you are not sure what my question is referring to, or do not understand what I'm trying to get at? Let me know so we can take a look. ------------------
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blue flame
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posted December 28, 2004 05:07 PM
sorry aj, all i have is our birth date and locations~ me - 9/1/80 - birmingham al - 9:15am
him - 10/24/73 - atlanta ga - time unknown ------------------
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sthenri
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posted December 28, 2004 06:27 PM
blueflame, those with Sag ascendants especially with Neptune conj Ascendant are really into chasing dreams, and we need our space. We really like a challenge too, because we are afraid of showing our emotions. So telling him how you felt, in your communicative Gemini Moon manner, probably scared him a bit. But if you stay friends, and don't get pushy, he will come back and want affection. The best way to his heart, is to give gestures of physical affection. Your chart is very similar to my ex's and I have to say he wasn't much in the affection department, not wanting to scare me. But the declarations of love are harder for me to handle than a hug. If you want him, I would hug him often because he really needs that reassurance. He may drive you crazy, I know my ex felt that way. Telling him he is your soulmate will drive him away because this aspect of his says low self esteem loud and clear, he has to learn himself on his own before giving to you. Neptune conjunct Ascendant takes a long time to build confidence and self esteem in a relationship. If he doesn't have the self esteem yet, it will be hard for him stay true, regardless of his aspects. It sounds like he is afraid of letting you down. Don't lower standards or he will be afraid of hurting you. You can't change someone by posessing them, No one is My friend, or My lover, not really. Because we don't change each other. Underneath it's always insecure, love makes people happy, but not more secure. Natasha
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blue flame
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posted December 28, 2004 06:34 PM
thank you for that natasha - i do feel that you are so right on!
i had a dream last night about this situation:he comes up behind me - i'm facing a wall 1/2 heartedly listening to him - he says he got my card and he loves me and wants to be with me - i'm numb - i accept - we go into a house party - my sister (long legged, sexy model chick) is laying on a couch with him spooned up to him - i am numb - i feel betrayed - then all of a sudden everyone at the house party is covered in horror movie style blood - i'm scared,but numb - he turns to me - his face is no longer the beautiful one that i know, rather a strange ugly face of a tired man -
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i think your words just summed up my dream in reality...thank you natasha~
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this is the hardest and most masochistic trist of life so far...constant lingering of emotions...
i guess i feel like it's safe to share how i feel with him b/c i know he can't act on it...self-defeat, aint it grand!
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hereisgone
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posted December 29, 2004 12:24 PM
I think it is possible. I'm a Scorpio who wants someone to "belong to" so to speak. Just as long as they "belong to" me as well. I like to possess but don't like being overly-possessed. Scorpio doesn't normally come out and divulge an emotion if he didn't *REALLY* mean it. If he told you that he loves you, he does. Maybe it's the heavy Sag influence, but I love to go wandering around either by myself or with a friend. I'll come back eventually, but if I don't have an even mixture of freedom and relationship, I feel either lonely or smothered.IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted December 29, 2004 12:47 PM
Well!Blue Flame - See if you can follow this, and whatever you do not understand, feel free to ask. Plus, anyone else here who sees anything pop out at them, please add to this. You have your Sun, Mercury and Jupiter in Virgo in your 11th House. Your Saturn is in Virgo as well, but in the 12th House. Your 6th House Cusp is Ruled by Neptune > Your Neptune is in Sag in your 3rd House. Your 3rd House is currently being Transited by quite a bit - Mercury, Venus & Pluto, which are all hovering over or very near your Neptune. No wonder you are reviewing this relationship with this Scorpio. OK - back up top, all those Planets in Virgo means you ARE very much into serving others, which is not a bad thing as long as you've established your boundaries. Then, since they are in the 11th & 12th House, it furthers the need to "serve" others through friendship. So, just as I suspected! And I DO understand this karmic pull - just remember, sometimes the need to serve will be so strong, that it actually has more to do with YOU and how it makes YOU feel, rather than any indication of how the other person will handle or appreciate it. Just something to keep in mind if you find yourself giving all, yet lacking satisfaction. ------------------
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blue flame
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posted December 29, 2004 03:05 PM
thank you all SO much! this session has truly helped me come to terms with many issues surrounding this moment in my life...
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this is the best site ever!
i feel blessed with knowledge and blessed with communication...
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pax vobiscum
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maya-v
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posted December 29, 2004 03:45 PM
I hate to say this, blueflame but ... I TOLD YOU SO!!
Hope it doesnt hurt too much ... love and hugs!IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted December 29, 2004 04:00 PM
Glad to hear that Blue Flame - you are very welcome.Peace be with you too ... ------------------
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cat71
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posted December 29, 2004 05:01 PM
Aaah! The blessed Scorpio!
I have best friend scorpio(female) who can be very demanding and possessive, and I've recently fallen in love (the old fashioned way) with scorpio man, he came into my life 7 months ago, I have become obsessed with him, and he throws me titbits of interest everyso often, these have become more frequent in recent weeks, but he has also told me he is completely focused on his career  He is 38 and still single! Me, libran single mother. We both work in a theatre, we laugh together frequently and he's told me he trusts me and admires my honesty! I told him I like him because he is a man of principle (so few of them) but he seems to me to be somewhat of a conumdrum! Somedays he is flirting and flattering and other days 'strictly business' - what's it all about??? 
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