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Topic: Love and Light to Kashmir , Pak, India
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SecretGardenAgain unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 01:54 AM
Hi everyone Wanted to send love and prayers and light to Kashmir, Pak and India... for all the victims of the earthquake. My own family belonging to Kashmir, is fine, although several people we knew are still missing and probably dead. Wherever they are, dead or alive, we hope they are at peace and at rest, and that survivors can get food soon. The death toll is at 18000 and the town of Muzaffarabad, about 2 hrs drive from my valley (Skardu) is 70 % destroyed. Severe rain and hail has stopped relief efforts also, so Im hoping whoever else is suffering will get out fine. What I really dont understand is why Prez Bush only vowed 177,000 dollars to the effort....which is less than 10 people that I know here sent....because Pakistani government sent 500,000 dollars in aid to America for Hurricane Katrina...and Pakistan is a third world country...Bush could have at LEAST sent that much back. Gosh its making me angry thinking about it Love SG Love SG IP: Logged |
Lauren unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 02:57 AM
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww SG I'm soooo sorry to hear this Sending lots of love and hugs your way IP: Logged |
cancerrg unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 03:27 AM
the devastation is much bigger in pak . there have been reports of large no. of deaths in kashmir . infact this the first time that i have heard of anything beside snowfalls bringing such death tolls in kashmir. lets hope , this tragedy helps in bringing the neighbours togetther to fight calamities rather than themselves .i pray.
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aqua Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted October 09, 2005 04:36 AM
i heard about it too , ofcourse that the country i belong to(india) IP: Logged |
cancerrg unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 04:41 AM
i too heard it only , didn't feel it (i was in the metro ) . just when i reached office , i heard someone talking about it , i thought they were talking of some other day but then a gem friend of mine phoned me.IP: Logged |
DayDreamer unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 06:27 AM
Oh My...Guess how I found out about the Earthquake...nope not from CNN, not from the news here...I got a call from my uncle in Pakistan letting us know that the family there is fine. Thank God! Ive seen minimal coverage on this earthquake. So far at least 18,000 deaths, and at least 44,000 injured. But gosh, Pakistan, India, Kashmir, Afghanistan...they're third world countries, and their people are third rate too, so it makes sense Bush only sends that amount. Well what did we live in...rubble anyways, right? My prayers for everyone affected by this devastating earthquake. And Ramadan Mubarak to all my Muslim friends.
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hot_ice unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 08:10 AM
Saw the pictures on tv...really bad,lets pray for all of them...Nature is being a b*tch ......atleast for the last two years,tsunami,hurricane,fires,now earthquakes,what is happening to this planet? Notice the number 8 figures in all these: 8th(yesterday),26th dec(tsunami),26 jan (bhuj,gujarat),26 dec(iran earthquake,2003),jan 17th(kobe earthquake)....weird... IP: Logged |
sue g unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 09:39 AM
prayers from Ireland for all those who are suffering God bless xxxx IP: Logged |
WaterNymph unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 09:48 AM
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Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 982 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 09, 2005 10:50 AM
News this morning says more than 20,000 have perished (so far).....Here are some donations links -- American Red Cross: https://give.redcross.org/ Medecins Sans Frontieres (Doctors Without Borders): http://www.msf.org/msfinternational /invoke.cfm?objectid=1301D8E5-E018-0C72-092CCF4748FD0E35&component=toolkit.indexArticle&method=full_html 'Zala IP: Logged |
iAmThat unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 11:31 AM
Sending love and light...and saying a little prayer.IP: Logged |
GemStar unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 12:04 PM
Much Peace to those who have lost loved ones...and may everyone continue giving to others as we do not know when our own personal time of need will appear.IP: Logged |
noreenz unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 12:27 PM
Reports of 20,000 dead. Light, thought, prayers... for all those souls crossed over and also for the millions that this devastion has touched. I may be naive, but I would think that the $177,000 is only the start of the help that the States will give...please have faith. IP: Logged |
SecretGardenAgain unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 04:48 PM
hi everyone thanks for all your consideration... noreenz: i would hope so. reminiscent of last yr when prez bush said he would donate something like 500 K to the tsunami then when he got pounced on for that, he increased it dramatically. in the end the US did indeed donate quite a bit. its not about donating quite a bit, but at least political reciprocity would dictate that you equal the 500 K initially. its not a matter of charity, but just really bad PR and no common sense in my opinion. Lauren: thanks and back to you sweetie Hey cancerrg: yes agree with that coming together. man us kashmiris seen enough drama, a lot being self created by those militant kashmiri groups, others by pak and india govts, it needs to stop you know? aqua: hope everyone you know is fine? DD: ramadan mubarak to you too my friend didnt know you were muslim, kol senna we enti tayyaba hot_ice: interesting! thanks for that bit of info. going off to check out that eight-weirdness. sueg, WN, iamThat: thanks a billion Zala: hey girl, thanks so much for the links, you always complete my nonsensical posts. of course donation would help, forgot to include that Gemstar: thanks, so beautifully put Love SG IP: Logged |
proxieme unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 05:27 PM
Where'd you get your info re: the relief packages? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4324014.stm The 177,000 figure is actually what the UK is donating (plus medical professionals, etc)...the US has only made an intial pledge of $100,000... ...though the article does say that that's just initial and that more supplies, etc. will come as needed. They sure as hell better. I understand that we have our own rebuilding effort underway right now with many people displaced, but even the highest estimates of Gulf Coast casualties aren't more than a few thousand, and those that have survived have a good chance of receiving substantial aide - they at least won't starve to death or die of gangrene. The Treasury Department spends more than $100,000 on toilet paper per annum, ferchrissakes; it costs more than that for the Federal Gov't to send a bucketful of staffers to a conference. Lobbyists in DC and New York pay more than that for tickets to fundraising dinners IP: Logged |
SecretGardenAgain unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 05:55 PM
yes prox that is where i got it at , and thanks for correcting. i believe i read it as they pledged 100 K but are now sending 177 K? anyhow we are cynical enough to know that even at the worst times, we are not going to get help, even the help that we SENT not even a few months ago. Love SG IP: Logged |
GemStar unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 06:03 PM
NEWS: The U.S. Agency for International Development has contributed $500,000 to the American Red Cross for Pakistan relief. Surely more information will be reported come Monday in the upcoming work week. More recovery assistance is sure to arrive as well!!This is in addition to the intial $100,000 pledged from the US...$177,000 from the UK. Obviously this is just the beginning of American aid which will be sent to the affected areas. Lots of folks here at home and around the world will need aid. Who knew that so many devastating tragedies would happen this close together in 2005. (Late 2004 as well)...such sadness.
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proxieme unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 06:22 PM
SGA - I was thinking about this while making dinner, and I believe that the Bush Admin's probably reluctant to send blanket cash donations because of their fear that the cash might then get funneled to al Qaeda, et al. One can argue the rationality of that line of thought, but that's probably their reasoning. I'd bet money that no incredibly large-scale cash gets sent. I hope that at least gifts-in-aide (actual personnel, equipment, etc) get to ya'll.... I have little to no knowledge of that part of the world aside from textbooks and talks with a few cooworkers and fellow students from Pakistan and Afghanistan - another hope of mine is that there are American-Based NGOs and volunteers there (or that there will be soon) so that the people of the affected areas know that it is not the people of America who do not wish to see them. Well, at least those of us who take the time to look. ... Now besides being incredibly sad at the tragedy, I'm depressed at the state of some of my countrymen. IP: Logged |
SecretGardenAgain unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 07:13 PM
quote: NEWS: The U.S. Agency for International Development has contributed $500,000 to the American Red Cross for Pakistan relief. Surely more information will be reported come Monday in the upcoming work week. More recovery assistance is sure to arrive as well!!
thanks Gemstar. I am glad, and thankful and grateful. Many thanks Prox, im sure that could be used as an excuse but it doesnt make a good one in my opinion, because Pakistan didn't support the war on Iraq either and still sent money, and honestly speaking people in the rest of the world dont really trust the American government with money the way Americans do. Besides, Pakistan is supposed to be America's ally, Musharraf, our president, literally sold out the entire nation just to build an alliance with America so that the government wouldnt start an attack on Pakistan as well. One would think that after such a foreign 'alliance', there would at least be a little bit more appreciation on the US side. Pakistani government is catching people every week, guilty or innocent only god knows, and persecuting them like crazy, its a friggin Salem witch trial going on, to save the natino from attacks and frantically prove that we are also doing our job on countering terrorism. Does anyone really think that anyone, Bush or Musharraf is going to catch Osama? anyways thats a side issue. Love SG IP: Logged |
26taurus unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 07:45 PM
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proxieme unregistered
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posted October 09, 2005 08:03 PM
Oh, I'm not saying that it's a good excuse at all - just the one that may be used.IP: Logged |
aqua Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted October 10, 2005 12:20 AM
~SecretGardenAgain~ thanks alot for asking ! yes everyone i know is fine.but just so depressed by seeing people crying in t.v. in newspapers and every where.some thing or the other keeps happening all over the world. IP: Logged |
Loopy24 unregistered
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posted October 10, 2005 05:45 AM
God bless them all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxIP: Logged |
LeoStrength unregistered
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posted October 10, 2005 08:54 AM
My thoughts and prayers are with those who have suffered in this tragedy.God Bless. LeoStrengh xxxx
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MoonDuchess88 unregistered
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posted October 10, 2005 09:12 AM
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