posted July 15, 2006 07:54 PM              

We all have a shadow...

Just because you are not aware of having ulterior motives,
does not mean that you do not possess them.
Indeed, you are entirely powerless against them,
as long as you remain unconscious of their existence,
and in denial of even the possibility of their existence.

posted July 15, 2006 08:20 PM              

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HSC: Just because you are not aware of having ulterior motives, does not mean that you do not possess them.

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Spoken like a true Scorpio! See? It's just like told you guys.

Aqua is too far in outer space for Scorpio to get clear read on their motives; so they assume the worst.

Why is it they assume the unconscious (Read: non-existant) ulterior motive involves them? Is the very possibility that it might involve them enough to set them on edge?

Did you ever consider that maybe we're not like you?

It's really not fair. When you assume it makes an ass out of u and me.

Aquarius_Lover -

posted July 15, 2006 11:17 PM              

I know 2 Aquarians. Both are best friends. One a guy and the other a girl.

She is very possessive, clingy, and jealous with her cancer. They are going to have a baby.

I remember doing her chart for her. She had alot of pisces.

The guy I'm not sure never done his chart but he is very clingy and cries everytime his arian girlfriend breaks up with him.

He calls the girl Aquarius cyring to her about it.

Unless they have strong scorpio or taurus or water signs in their chart...then they are boring and very detached. Ewwwww.

Skakira the singer is an Aqua sun, Cancer rising, Scorpio rising.

She is a very intense and sensitive person.

Thank the lord she has water influences.

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Gemini sun, Cancer ascendant, Taurus moon *29, Taurus venus, Libra mars
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Things base and vile, holding no quantity,
Love can transpose to form and dignity.
Love looks not with the eye, but with the mind,
And therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.

posted July 16, 2006 12:37 AM              

They have conjunct Leo moons too, so that probably lended alot to the longevity of the relationship.

posted July 16, 2006 12:56 AM            

Thanks for speaking up!

posted July 16, 2006 01:15 AM            

Perhaps you'd like to check your natal chart and compare with those of the Scorps in your life and figure out what the matter is.

posted July 16, 2006 03:15 AM            

Dating one I found to be difficult, but the difficulties went both ways. He thought I was too intense and I thought he was too flippant and lacked emotional depth. But he certainly didn't lack depth period. And we had some of the greatest, most exciting adventures traveling together that I've ever had.

I've found them to be one of the most spontaneous, open-minded, try anything once sign. They don't at all intimidate me or creep me out or even bother me.

They are fixed however and so what I do sometimes find is that we might butt heads a bit because we both firmly believe what we believe and make no bones about saying so. Maybe some Scorps don't want a confrontation and so that's why they avoid the Aqua - however, I rarely see or hear about that going the other way.

I also think that you can get what I would categorize as a not uncommon Earth/Air interaction, where Earth views Air as "flaky" or "unreliable" and Air views Earth as an overly serious stick in the mud (Scorp being the earth in this case).

Fearing Aquarius? LOL Scorpio's have their fears, regardless of their usually effective front trying to display otherwise, but I dunno if I could honestly count Aquas as one of those. I could see Aquas being discomfiting for the Scorp if the Scorp's one of those super-intense, quiet type Scorps, but I don't know about fear.

posted July 16, 2006 03:42 AM            

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Fearing Aquarius? LOL Scorpio's have their fears, regardless of their usually effecive front trying to diplay otherwise, but I dunno if I could honestly count Aquas as one of those. I could see Aquas being discomfiting for the Scorp if the Scorp's one of those super-intense, quiet type Scorps, but I don't know about fear.

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Perfectly-put, Isis!

I don't think Scorps are afraid of Aquas, not the ones I know anyway. Somehow, by scanning some more posts here, I have sensed certain prejudiced hostility here I perceive it as disrespect to label Scorps as "paranoid" or having that much "nervous twitch". You've apparently underestimated Scorpios. Besides, as far as I'm concerned, Aquarians DO have AGENDAS! Who doesn't? I am appalled by hostility toward either Scorpio or Aquarius which breeds from misunderstanding and ignorance. NO such hostility please

posted July 16, 2006 03:55 AM            

I must say that what you conveyed in the beautifully written verse makes perfect sense! I cannot agree more! Most of Scorps here have demonstrated amazing, empathic understanding toward Aquarians, and yet I find myself in dibelief, even to the extent of astonishment that there are Aquarians who possess such biased views on Scorps and on themselves!

Anyone who considers him/herS-elf having issues with Scorps should carefully examine what the matter is with him/herS-elf first, then the Scorps- with absolute fairness. Perhaps it's the non-Scorp person who's having an agenda, or the Scorps he/she has encountered happen to have some common problems which can be found in people of ALL zodiac signs. Otherwise, I suspect that it's the non-Scorp individual who's having a VERY hidden agenda!

posted July 16, 2006 11:36 AM              

Scorpios do always believe they are being judged and slighted, or secretly ignored. They are not great on communication and I find this exhausting-to always be the one to speak first. They are afraid to be the fool, but it happens.

And though I love my Aqua brother he drives me crazy most of the time and acts out of it-he breaks things of value around me and agitates people especially my Sag/Taurus Moon sister. She gets very irritated with his self centered-ness.

It's relative, because with my brother his Venus and Mercury and stable Mars in Capricorn make him ultra serious and caring around animals, childrens, and people in need. he wants to be a lawyer or a vet and has his career goals mapped out-very different from the usual Aquarius. My sixth house sun values this trait.

The usual Aquarius "flake" is really a very dysfunctional person who needs therapy.

Maybe people find that out after knowing someone for a while but we live in a superficial society; actions speak louder than words.

My sole Aqua friend showed up to help me move...when everyone else flaked out..he also coordinated the entire move and bought pizza afterwards...with no whining at all.
(The pisces and aries both flaked out)

he is very serious about his girlfriend and loves her, she's an Aries.

Sag and Aquarius do NOT seem to get along but again this could be the Pluto influence, my sister has Sun in the 8th with Taurus/1st house and Taurus Moon-she does not like flaky people or shy people and is not patience in the least.

My brother stuttered for a long time and had problems expressing himself, which made my sister very angry at him-that just made it worse. Now he has grown out of it but he is better with music-he's never stopped loving my sister even though she doesn't want him around.

Aquas love to talk about taking trips, traveling, water slides, events, games, they are active and want to try everything. Money is kind of a problem because my Aqua friend is fanatical about splitting every bill absolutely equally.

There is a sweetness and loyalty to Aqua suns, but I can't say the same for other Aqua placements right now!

At this moment I am not happy with a venus in Aqua, and this placement especially finds me.

posted July 16, 2006 11:52 AM              

you said: "It is ironic, that all the other signs are scared of Scorpio"

Just to clear up one important point, VIRGOS are NOT scared of Scorpios. In my opinion that is an astrological fact!

Virgos can clearly see through the mask Scorpio puts up. And they'll wait until Scorpio is ready to show the soft, fearful, vulnerable underside of their shell. In time, Scorpio understands that Virgo will never intentionally set out to harm them, so they open up little by little revealing more personal (secret) information. It's a long slow process, but I've seen it happen many times in my experience. Virgo can 'relax' Scorpio. And Scorpio can 'protect' Virgo. I've even seen a female scorp verbally, yup, outloud and in full view of everyone, in a public place, 'destroy' the character of her husband's work mates because they critised her husband's work. So they are mutual beneficiaries to each other.

The same can not be said for Scorpio and Aquarius. Your Sun signs are SQUARE. It doesn't matter how much you powder over this fact, it will always be there. Only pure undiluted LOVE can over come a square aspect. And even then you feel like you are sacrificing alot to let the other person do what they want to do, especially, if the Suns are involved. There is no common ground with a square. Only LOVE can conquer here. So if you find a Scorp and an Aqua together as ONE, then their must be something special going on. I would suggest that you should look at their synastry and see what is making it work so well. There maybe alot of Neptune in their chart hiding their real S-elf.

I know a female Aqua who always has Scorp men running around her. She has Scorpio rising so their sun is in her first house. That gives her a personal boost, makes her feel good. They make her feel sexy, wanted and desired. But they are clearly just after her 'body', as she is a very sexy woman. The relationships NEVER work out because as soon as she 'reveals' her true self, that's when the problems begin. And she wonders WHY! So I tell her... "they're just after your sex babe; they're not interested in YOU or your personal growth!"

posted July 17, 2006 02:24 AM            

neither are Cancers

posted July 17, 2006 03:09 AM              

LOL every scorpio mooner I've dated (3- which is all the guys i HAVE ever dated) ran away from me...I got the whole "I feel like I couldn't have a real relationship with you- you keep this on such a friendly level! You never call me back at the time you say you will, you talk to other guys the same way you talk to me, and god knows, where the h*ll do you go after school every day?? I try to find you and you're never around!!" talk from two of them, and the other was a Saggi sun so he was just as detached as I was!

(reminds me of the time when i was dating the psycho scorpio, and he had found out that i was talking- ONLY TALKING- to this cancer guy friend of mine, and the scorp came up to him the next day and told him to "stay the hell away from his girlfriend" and the cancer didn't even say anything, and the scorp PUNCHED him in the face and said "remember that the next time you talk to her you little b*tch"!! Yeah the cancer still won't talk to me, lol)

I'm an aqua and I'm scared of scorpios. I never ever wanna be with a scorpio again. They ALWAYS hurt me. Plus, After having a moody-as-h*ll scorp mom and a strict-as-h*ll scorp dad? you can forget that junk. I've had my share of karmic dues.

posted July 17, 2006 04:27 AM            

Hopefully I'll come by and have a look at some of your threads- whether it's total agreement or otherwise, I still find your words quite pearls of wisdom the beginning of next month perhaps, as big academic events are coming up and I have to spend more time studying

posted July 17, 2006 05:10 AM              

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Isis: Maybe even it's a case of avoiding something you can't understand or penetrate, being that Scorps pride themselves on being able to understand and penetrate people's conscious and unconscious motivations.

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Wow. Very deep. That makes a lot of sense.

It might go both ways, too. Scorpio could be threatened Aqua may figure out their hidden agenda. Aqua is quite good at pulling information out of thin air. Near-psychic.

Maybe this is the whole reason these two signs square.

posted July 17, 2006 06:27 AM            

You're the guy who started the threads regarding sex drive and astrology...well, I must say that NOT ALL men come to me just because of my sex! Perhaps it's because I'm not that good-looking? On the contrary. Thank God I haven't had such awful experiences as men approaching me merely for my face or my body.

And it is certainly unfair, biased, judgmental and not scientific, unrealistic to say who and who get along or not solely by looking at their sun signs.I find it a lot easier to get along with Scorp women.

By the way, I think it's just the stereotypical impressions people have for Scorps, hence some individuals' excessive, unnecessary fear for them. As time progresses, I become less and less "afraid" of Scorps. You don't have to fear them out of nothing, but you mustn't underestimate them, either. Don't we all have to beware of people of ALL sun signs who actually have vicious intents?