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pidaua
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posted November 27, 2006 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My brother is a Venus in Aqua / Zero Earth Saggie with Merc in Sag and Moon in Scorp.

He has been married for 7 years with two boys. Before that he had two long term relationships.

My sis-in-law has an Earth singleton and had long term relationships.

I have Venus in Sag with plenty of Earth / water in my chart. I had a few long term relationships but was never much into looking for one or having to date. There was always too much to enjoy in life and things (education) to pursue. My brother did as well (education and travel) but he never liked being without someone whereas I loved being single and would only give that up for someone special.

I did- and he is a Leo that loves many of the same things that I love. Travel, communication, movies, music... That is what is important- QUALITY not QUANTITY. Lonliness is better than ending up with a complete turd- trust me on that one LOL...


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posted November 27, 2006 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a 33 year old Cap with a chart that I've heard interpretted a few times as one not necessarily good for relationships, and I've grown to be ok with that. I'm very independent, and being in a relationship can cramp my style a bit.

I agree that there's A LOT to be said for loving and embracing yourself. Since I've done more of that the relationships have just started coming one after the other. Ultimately what I think I'm finding is that I fit well with other people with similar quirks that might kill normal relationships. It may just be that independence factor. When you find someone else who's also highly independent, then you can mutually respect that aspect in one another. It does take a bit of maturity in a lot of cases, though, so it does kind of make for a late-blooming feel.

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posted November 27, 2006 05:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rebekka, you sound like me...Anti-Social Is that an Aquarian trait??

InLoveWithLife, Im turning 28 in jan, and baaaah, Ive tried those sites before...ive joined a few personally, my sister made one profile for me once before and my friend made one for me this summer. But I just dont seem to have any luck with them, and havent had the patience to last more than a month on each site. I should give it another try...Im still signed up to a number of them. But dang I gotta move to Britain...seems like most of the decent and cute s.asian guys are from there.

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posted November 27, 2006 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
May I add, its just a facet of the Aqu personality that we are aloof and probably don't get as intimate with people as others do. I think thats just a thing us Aqu have to accept. I know its tough, I wish I had tonnes of friends but I've just learnt to accept that I am not Ms Popularity. I've also always disliked parties too, must be the aqu in me.

Rebekka, I'm still fighting with my parents at the age of 30 and living some 4000km away! Its a part of life.

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posted November 27, 2006 05:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DayDreamer,

so u also an indian? or r u talking abt match.com etc?
Well, all the guys i find cute apparently don't think the same way abt me regardless of whr they live i hv registered on 3 such websites till now. my patience is kinda running out. if it wasn't for friends who keep pushing me to 'try', i wud hv given up like i did twice before.

guess wht, i was studying my chart yday, for periods good for entering into relationships . (one of those times whn i'm like 'isn't thr a single guy who i can like and who wud like me back!') i was using the method outlined on cafeastrology for tht. apparently, all my sensitive points are in cardinal signs. (my chart is also strongly cardinal) so whn jup moves into capricorn, i might have some luck. BUT, saturn moves into libra whn i turn 29 (tht's my saturn return for you). And today i discovered that Pluto, Uranus and Jup ALL move into cardinal signs around the same time. Gives me the feeling tht its gonna be real bad, or atleast very significant, as far as relationships (and everything else!) is concerned. scared the **** out of me!!

ILWL

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posted November 27, 2006 05:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im Pakistani- so same thing. You know what match.com I havent been on...hows that one? Maybe I'll give that one a try.

Well jupiter wont be in cap for another year and a half I think...what house cusp is capricorn on? Ive actually got Jupiter conjunct my DC right now...How exciting!! Im just waiting for a guy to fall out of the sky or to be disappointed because of all the optimism. I dont think I'll be married for another 2 years at least...not until my saturn return.

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posted November 27, 2006 06:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi DayDreamer,

I feel for you !! We r in the same boat...
as far as i know, match.com is for dating. mostly americans use tht, i'm not sure abt indians/pakistanis.

The way my chart is set up, I am pretty sure I am going to have a late marriage. In fact, to tell u the truth, i always knew in my heart tht it wud be so. my mother also married late, my parents had an unhappy marriage. which has left me with a phobia of marriage, esp the arranged kind.

A psychic told me once that i can marry now if i want, but then i'll meet my 'soulmate' whn i am around 29-30. i didnt believe her. but whn i looked at my chart, it seems quite possible. even if i do marry now, all those saturn, uranus, pluto transits r sure to break it up unless it is very strong in the 1st place

But i hope you have better luck than me. sometimes the right guy can be right under your nose, and u don't know.

ILWL

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posted November 27, 2006 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
29-30 yrs old

That's Saturn Return

Transits don't break up a marriage. There can be breakup that is in synchronicity with the transits. The transits don't necessarily mean a breakup. It can indicate that you have relationship challenges which can make or break your relationship. It indicates needing to put more effort into you relationship. The challenges could indicate your relationship being tested too....especially when it involves Saturn.


challenging = more effort to maximize potential.

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posted November 27, 2006 06:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ya tht's right Glaucus

but my saturn return unfortunately also signals transits to my venus, DC, sun/moon midpoint, ruler of 7th (Saturn), ruler of 5th(pluto). these r all in cardinal signs. So it indicates tht i might actually meet someone significant during my Saturn return. And i just discovered that pluto wud be in cap around the same time, with uranus in aries. i'm gonna have a GRAND saturn return

Of course, if i meet my mr. right today, i am going to marry him anyways, and take things as they come

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posted November 27, 2006 06:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heh, PS man, if a guy noticed me I would know. Guys won't even talk to me. Just wanted to throw that out there.

~Rebekka

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posted November 27, 2006 06:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hah, ok ok! *shrugs* All in due time, I guess, eh?

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posted November 27, 2006 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
still young, boys will starting talking to you soon

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pidaua
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posted November 27, 2006 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Heh, PS man, if a guy noticed me I would know. Guys won't even talk to me. Just wanted to throw that out there."


Are you sure you aren't putting out a vibe? I've had women friends that didn't even realize they were putting out the "I'm angry / desparate" vibe and guys would stay away like they were mosquitos and she was a fogger.

Same with men - when I was single, if I noticed a good looking guy that had a total sulk on his face or had a "go away" attitude, bleh.. I wouldn't even make an effort to say hello.

See, when people get down on themselves and think they are unappealing, others will pick up on that and treat them as such. When someone is enjoying life, that is when they are putting out the happy vibes.

I love astrology, but I DO NOT think it is indicative of WHEN you will find someone. I met my ex husband when my 7th house was full, married him during my Saturn return and divorced him before it was over.

Sitting back with open arms saying "Thank you ASTRO Transit.... I am waiting for the person of my dreams to plop into my arms" will only make your arms fatigued.


When I met my husband the transiting Sun was in both of our 5th houses - we are both Pluto risings. Saturn was in our 11th house (coincidently, we met at an organized event).


I guess what I am trying to say is to be open, be YOU- like AG said, he found that when we embraced himself he met others- others that had his same independence and quirks.

Let Astrology work FOR you- but don't let it WORK you... People like that end up being afraid to get out of bed because Neptune is in their 7th house..

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posted November 27, 2006 07:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think I put off that sort of vibe. I actually think I'm really friendly when people finally approach me. And if you saw me with the people who do talk to me, I'm always laughing. Even if there's nothing funny. Cracking jokes and stuff like that. I dunno, I thought I seem like a fun person to at least attempt to hold a conversation with.
Oh and I forgot to mention, I don't think other people are boring at all. I just don't enjoy doing the things everyone else does. Like going out and clubbing? Bar hopping? Partying? Yeah. Not my thing. And I think people are put off by that because it seems like I'm boring. [shrug] No idea.

~Rebekka

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posted November 27, 2006 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In all seriousness, can you see yourself with anyone? That little step in your own perception can make a huge difference. If you don't see yourself as being with someone, then you probably won't attract that to yourself.

Also, I notice you listed off the things you're NOT in to doing. What are you into doing, and how can you make it a social event? You're still young, so you probably haven't reached this stage yet, but a lot of people seem to just accept wherever they're at socially as if there's nothing they can do to expand their circle of friends and contacts. That's not really true (as any Leo could likely tell you). You can take fun classes (photography, cooking, massage, dance), join a gym, join a club, look into community activities, join a church, etc. There's all kinds of non-alcoholic fun to be had out there.

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Lol, illusion_fool, if you got nothing to lose, try changing your outlook in the whole dating scene. Don't resolve to the "no one notices me" mentality - otherwise it could turn out into a self-fulfilling prophecy. And like teaologist said, just let it come natural. Stuff like this just happens - which makes it more the sweet. Like who knows, maybe a close guy friend who you've never considered as possible love interest could be the love of your life.

I'm thinking that mayble its your Aquarius influences that lead you to resist conforming to 'supposed' social norms for people around your age. Other than seeing it as an inconvenience, see it as one of your strengths.

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posted November 27, 2006 09:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
InLoveWithLife it's at least good to know Im not the only one here like this...sighh...

I thought match.com was a dating site...thats why i never joined it. I thought there might have been a desi feature I wasnt aware of when you mentioned it. Ive only frequented the desi and religion ones.

To be honest with you I dont know how I could go for an arranged marriage either...plus my parents arent really social and involved in the desi community and havent really brought a guy to my attention (maybe a few but it didnt go far...ie dont know how they even looked) and never brought a prospect to the house...so the task of finding a guy is left almost entirely up to me...which is a relief in a way, but a little disappointing because it limits my chances.

Im soo weary of psychics now...ive had readings from a few and they've been so open ended with me that Ive jumped to the wrong conclusion a couple of times. Where did you find this psychic? Its pretty interesting that what she says does coincide with what your chart is actually like. Not sure what your Saturn return will predict, but with all those aspects it will make, it sure will be a major life changing event. Thank you for the luck...I wish you the same and that you find mr. right soon

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posted November 27, 2006 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, the right things are being said here.

Just let it happen, it happens when you don't look for it. Thats when it has happened for me.

Aaah to be young and single. I'd go out there again and cause some real strife

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posted November 27, 2006 10:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think anybody quite understands the situation. I'm not "single," I'm alone. I have two close friends who're always busy, too busy for me. I used to be able to see myself with someone, as you put it, but I don't see how it would ever actually happen. I don't have guy friends and it's not that I don't want to "conform to society." Just because what everyone else is doing for enjoyment doesn't mean I find it enjoying. Why would I want to be around a bunch of people when their drunk off their a$$? Why would I want to be in an overcrowded club where the lights are flashing so much you barely see who it is that's bumping into your a$$? I'm not being stubborn and nonconformist, I JUST DON'T LIKE THAT STUFF. I wouldn't doubt that if I found something that actually interested me like a cooking class or a dance class that I'd go for it, but there's nothing like that around. I've looked and nothing interests me. And it wasn't until recently that I really got fed up with the whole idea because it's stupid. I'm so f-ing p*ssed, I can't even count how many outbursts and f-bombs I've dropped at people. STUFF DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN. You have to make it happen and if you can't well you're screwed to dwell in your personalized and isolated limbo. That's the way life works.

~Rebekka

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posted November 27, 2006 11:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Illusions_fool...are you in school (like on a college campus) right now?...Where do you live? Thats too bad you dont have activities like cooking or dances classes around your area...Could you travel? Work, even part time, is a good place to meet new people.

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posted November 28, 2006 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At your age, I kept in contact with 2 people. I never ever went out and I still don't. I clubbed for a year with a few people and the "friendship" never lasted and I hated clubbing and socialising like that. I hated parties and still do. I didn't have any social activities. I was at university and didnt have time to interact with anyone or socialise. I deliberately took on more than I can chew to fill the void of lonliness, as a disguise of what I thought was my social dysfunction. I know very well what it feels like to be lonely, to sit your room and cry everyday for 2.5 years because I felt no one even liked me to be my friend, yet alone a lover. I never thought that anyone would love me because of minor physical issues that I had. I would say that I would have been diagnosed with clinical depression because it got so bad that I refused to talk to everyone except my parents when I needed to. The one friend that I had, I refused to keep in touch with because she found someone and it hurt me so much that I felt abandoned. I've been there. Then one day, I said "this is enough" and decided to feel good about myself. I started chatting to people on the internet and that is how I met my partner, another student. So I suggest you do the same, if you are at something like university, connect with other students.

I used to think no one noticed me. There was so many other students at uni and they all had partners and I used to think, "why not me?" Well guess what Rebekka, there were a few guys that I bumped into the workplace after I graduated and told me that they saw me around (said with an interest in me, why they didn't approach me, God knows why?) including one guy who I was took notice of from a distance, which shows you can be noticed but that you don't see it yourself. By the stage I was approached, I was in a relationship, so in the end, I ended up having the power and I got to choose who I wanted and was brushing the rest off.

You are too similar to me. I know your story. You are young and trust me, you are noticed but us aquas are a bit vague sometimes and don't notice others. You just don't know who is watching. Also, in order to get attention from someone you want, you need to show that you have interest in them and are "available" to them. Being Aqua Ice Queen and admiring from a distance isn't going to help but connecting from a distance might.

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I'd also like to add this as some hope to you. In my tradition of Duran Duran fixation, this is what Simon Le Bon from Duran Duran said about himself and about the hottest man on earth, John Taylor:

From http://www.lizardkingduran.com/qsimon98.htm

"“True, true, but then it was almost out of our control,” he says. “What were we to do? I’d spent my entire teenage years suffering one unrequited love affair after the other. I was so shy I couldn’t even talk to girls. If I fancied them, I’d follow them home, but I didn’t have the guts to approach them. I was a teenage stalker. The same went for John. The first time I saw him he was this speccy geek with nicotine-stained fingers, trembling with fear at the prospect of having to meet people. And his name wasn’t even John. It was Nigel. He was a Nigel with glasses, poor sod. I remember staring at his face and slowly realising that he was rather beautiful, exquisite in fact. I mean, this was the best looking guy I’d seen in years, maybe my whole life. Losing his glasses and changing his name to John was the best thing he ever did. He was a man transformed. To see him in action was incredible. He could charm the knickers off anyone.”

Quite.

“You know what it was?” he asks. “It was just front. All front. Easy, really. Look what you do.” He stands up, and affects the pose of a “love god”. “You grab your balls, close your eyes, and swagger up to the woman of your choice and just go, Hi baby. That’s it. It either works or it doesn’t. We were worthy of all these women simply because we had the balls to approach them. There will always be better looking men with bigger dicks and better technique and more money, but they probably never had our front. We did.”

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posted November 28, 2006 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rebekka

What I have come to know in my 44 years is I am my own best company and I am happy with myself. I am comfortable with me. I too, have very few, if any close friends, my two teenage daughters mainly and I get all the social interaction I need at work.

When interacting with people it is all about the energy. I do not think you are putting out funky vibes, perse' but I do think you might consider relaxing a bit on the relationship thing and concentrate on loving yourself.

I do not think anybody has mentioned elements yet. It seems to me that alot of people who are into astrology get so wrapped up into transits, aspects, this body, that "rock" and forget the basics of astrology. I have been quite enamoured with the elements from the beginning. If I remember correctly, you have quite a bit of air and water in your chart, as do I. Airy/watery people are at the least intense and quite out there--this I know from personal expereince. I do love the air/water natives, I am one, but I also know how hard it can be to be one, and to relate to people who are not. People have told me I can be impossbile to understand, especially earth signs and when dealing with the earth people, I really have to stop and make myself talk slow and in plain english--just as an example. Of course you can not go through life with this approach in meeting strangers, but just remember your inherant makeup makes your energy a bit out there.

I have kissed quite a few toads in my life and have come to know that if I am ever in a "relationship" again, it will be my own brand of one---I probably need someone just like me, but in a man's body. I have had to embrace being single cause I am all I have. Sure I would love a deep connection with a man, someone to snuggle up with by the fireside, watch a movie with, etc. I get "hit" on all of the time, but I can smell a toad from a mile away and that is what has driven me deep inside myself over and over again.

You are so young, give it time. It has been said for many eons that you can not truely love another and another can not truely love you until you love yourslef first...

BTW I lost alot of myspace friends a while back--do you still have one? What is your url?

Blessings

Terri

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posted November 28, 2006 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Illusions_fool,

without sounding harsh, I think you may need to speak with a professional about your feeling "alone" it also seems that you feel "abandoned" by your friends.

Friends come and go -it is a part of life. They are busy and have other interests. You have said repeatedly that you hate bars and clubs. You have YET to say what YOU LIKE. Several people have given you GREAT advice about getting out there and doing what you love and guess what... the ONE will show up at some point.

Have you thought about becoming a part of an organization that does things for your community? Since you don't like the party scene, going would make NO sense because you would end up with a party animal and you would have nothing in common.

Only you can change that feeling of being "alone". It seems that you are not happy with yourself and I think AG was right on about how things will change when you change that perception.

I also would like to ask- you said you are not "single" you are "alone". Does that mean you DO have a bf but you still feel alone? I was just confused on that point.

~Pidaua

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Daydreamer,
I'm in school yes, attending a private University, smaller than a lot of other schools too. But the area the school is in, it's in Cincinnati, isn't really very safe. You can't go down the road to the local Kroger because people get shot there if that gives you an idea. I lived on campus for maybe 2 months, but my roommate was a b*tch, so I moved back home 45 minutes away.
I'm going to get a part-time job over the Christmas holiday, as soon as my inner ear irritation goes away [it's been messing with my sense of equilibrium and I can't do a lot of moving without getting dizzy].

23,
if you know what it's like to be alone for 2.5 years, imagine how it is to be alone for your entire life. I talk to people in the only class I have left [I had to drop a total of 5 classes this semester because I was going to end up failing all of them].
There was a guy I was interested in, I mentioned him on this forum actually. He seemed so perfect, and I did tell him I liked him a lot. But he already has a girlfriend. I don't really talk to him anymore because it hurts too much. The less I have to think about it, the better.

Terri,
yeah I have a stellium of Aquarius [Sun, Moon and Mercury] in the 12th House [which puts a damp spin on it] with Pisces Rising sextile Neptune square Venus in the 1st House. But I also have double Aries in Venus and Jupiter and Mars in Sagittarius--none of which ever seemed very much like me to be honest.
I have come to terms with myself. Which confuses me even more because I don't have a problem with myself. I figure, if someone doesn't like me, they can f-off.
As far as guys hitting on me, however, I don't think I recall an instance of a guy ever hitting on me. Like I've said, guys don't approach me or talk to me, period. And about the MySpace thing, I got rid of mine because having one was pointless because I didn't have any friends on my list. And the point of MySpace is to stay in touch with friends, right?

pidua,
I had been seeing a counsellor for well over a year, but stopped when I started college until I could figure out a way to work it into my school schedule. Well, college got crazy and I ended up dropping all but one class. No, I'm not seeing her anymore, and I really have absolutely no desire to either. I don't want somebody to just listen to me and pretend to understand just because I'm paying them to.
I've really wanted to do community service, but there doesn't seem to be any organization that I can find and join to do that with. I've looked at all the clubs at the University and none of them hold my interest at all.
I don't know why everyone thinks I don't like myself. Yeah, I know I'm not just like every other girl. Yeah, I know there are a lot of things that are different about me. And yeah, I know that there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. But I don't know why everyone thinks I don't like myself.
And no, I don't have a boyfriend. Never have, in fact. What I meant was, being single really isn't the biggest of my problems. Yeah, I wouldn't be alone if I wasn't single. But, my friends are way too busy for me, so that makes me more alone than just single. If that made any sense.

I'm ready to just call it quits and say bye now, cause, going over this and still nobody really understanding what it is I'm saying is just making it worse. And for the record, I've made more of an effort to reach out to people than is measureable. So I don't want to be told to try harder, because I've tried my d*mnedest and came out with nothing.

~Rebekka

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posted November 29, 2006 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are suffering from depression. You will never feel that anyone understands you or can reach you. How can they, even the most blatant attempt at trying to talk to you results in a flat "nope, you don't understand me".

I know that being "single" means being alone in the literal sense- I also know that one can also feel alone even when living in commune, with 25 boyfriends.

You have alienated yourself from your peers and you are about to do it again on this website. What will you benefit?

You need a different counselor because what you are doing is classic alienation..

It goes like this;

I build a moat around my land to keep the others out. I build a wall around my castle so no one can come in. Behind my wall I have a door that is locked securely to keep them out. I have a room within a room that I keep locked at all times. Within the room there is a ocked door that leads down into the depths of my basement, that is where I reside - so no one can come in.

It is a classic story of alienation. Building up so many walls and booby-traps that no one will even reach you.

It is a defense mechanism because it allows you to never get close to them. It also allows you to rationalize how they have failed you by being to busy, not understanding you or disappointing you.

Have you noticed there is nothing that you like? You live in a college town, surrounded by people but you have not one real interest?

No one can help you or understand you until you are straight with yourself.

I wish you luck on your journey.

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