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StarCrossed
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posted February 21, 2011 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarCrossed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this aspect and I can't help but think the current transiting Jupiter square pluto is enhancing its effects.

For something that some claim is not a planet, Pluto sure does have a pretty big effect on me, as all the things in the previous posts seem to be heightened of late.

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posted February 22, 2011 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome! I concur--Pluto packs a powerful punch; they don't call it transformative for nothing. Astronomers can demote it all they want, but as it relates to astrology, Pluto will always be prominent.

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posted April 05, 2012 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jacque     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you handle a love relationship with a Sun square Pluto person?

I currently have a Sun square Pluto person pursuing me. I feel scared for some reason .. Im not sure why .. I never ever expected this person to fall in love with me. But all the signs are there, the intentions r becoming increasingly clear. This is someone I really value as a friend and don't want to ruin anything so .. if they make a move on me .. I'm not sure what to do.

What do you when a Sun sq Pluto person falls in love with you?

What's it like?

What can I expect?

what are the dos and donts?

Please let me know asap. thank you.

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scropiojunkie85
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posted September 25, 2014 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scropiojunkie85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhhh I have this aspect and I never paid it any mind and it is totally true. I just gave up on competing all together because my temper was so bad. I cannot handle authority on any level. I am getting so much better. But I am deeply introspective. People always accuse me of putting them under the microscope and become very guarded. I see so much in people. I thought I was a bad person because I found it so easy to influence people. (That Jupiter/Mercury conjunction in my chart liked kicking my butt because of it). How does one use these energies productively. THIS IS FOR SURE MY PROBLEM. I've become a total daydreamer because I can't handle this energy. Anyone have any ideas?

My Sun is in the 10th house conjunct my MC and square Pluto in the 6th house.

HELP!

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scropiojunkie85
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posted September 25, 2014 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scropiojunkie85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhhh I have this aspect and I never paid it any mind and it is totally true. I just gave up on competing all together because my temper was so bad. I cannot handle authority on any level. I am getting so much better. But I am deeply introspective. People always accuse me of putting them under the microscope and become very guarded. I see so much in people. I thought I was a bad person because I found it so easy to influence people. (That Jupiter/Mercury conjunction in my chart liked kicking my butt because of it). How does one use these energies productively. THIS IS FOR SURE MY PROBLEM. I've become a total daydreamer because I can't handle this energy. Anyone have any ideas?

My Sun is in the 10th house conjunct my MC and square Pluto in the 6th house.

HELP!

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posted September 25, 2014 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have met so many people with this aspect this year that is not even funny.

I have Sun sextile Pluto so I don't feel any pressure to control/manipulate anybody.

I find that I can influence people rather easily not for their detriment but for the betterment of their lives.


What I have experience with Sun square Pluto people. They have had a life where their Will have been thwarted from a dictatorial father who thought his will was the gospel.

These people do not tolerate the slightest disrespect. So they feel like the must control you or you will destroy them.

I have exposed the deepest must vulnerable memories of these people and they rather go in self denial than admitted but you know what, deep down they are happy that there is someone that knows about it.

I find they fear people that can see through them because the feel exposed and vulnerable and that's the beauty of being a Virgo or having the soft aspect. You don't feel the need to take advantage of such things.

Just my 2 cents.

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posted December 05, 2017 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 06, 2017 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One word: Rage!

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Kannon McAfee
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posted December 06, 2017 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Juno:
I'm interested in this aspect in a natal chart, what is the usual manifestation? For instance someone with an Aquarian sun square a scorpio pluto

It really isn't about manifestation, because that is defined by how you channel these energies and how well.

Sun = conscious will, strength, life force;
Pluto = power drawn from the unconscious well;
Square = challenging aspect to bring both energies into fullest expression.

So the person born with Sun square Pluto in their birth charts is born with the innate challenge of expressing their will power strongly from within themselves without resorting to dominance over others or extreme responses, revenge, etc.

This is colored by Sun in Aquarius to the extent that Sun there displaces life force/ego into group / outside-in awareness, therefore a rebellious or iconoclastic tendency within society, insistence on being different or pushing against. The challenge is to actually know what you are pushing against by first having clearer awareness of what you are and what truth is rather than just reaction to what you/they are not. This is a challenge for many Aquarius types, particularly those where the Sun, Uranus, or planets in Aquarius have challenging aspects like squares and oppositions.

In general, ego-based power struggles in which one is constantly drawn to see the environment and differences as a basis for personally acting with stronger will than those around.

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posted December 08, 2017 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They're self-destructive, and destructive in general, sometimes cruel, obsessive. But I don't know much about this aspect. I think this is really hard. I think also that they don't like being dominate, and possessed by others, if they feel that they can get paranoid... They can have some serious incidents or some psychological issues during they life and try sometimes to commit suicide...

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posted December 23, 2017 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun Square Pluto in 4th House
Pisces Sun

I'm not very domineering or cruel but self destructive tendencies and deep introspective feelings are something I'm no stranger to.

It's easy for me to see through bullcrap and others can sense this. There's a quality about me that makes people admire me but from a distance. I can read body language and unconscious responses like a charm. I have no time for insular, vain, selfish or cruel individuals and sometimes I feel it's my mission to take them down. The authorities and I have definitely had are share of wild rides. Pluto ingrained with the Sun makes you radiate a dangerous, alpha and VERY cathartic/sexual presence that keeps a lot of people at arms length and you can turn a lot of people off and on at the same time.

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posted December 24, 2017 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Radium:
Sun Square Pluto in 4th House
Pisces Sun

I'm not very domineering or cruel but self destructive tendencies and deep introspective feelings are something I'm no stranger to.

It's easy for me to see through bullcrap and others can sense this. There's a quality about me that makes people admire me but from a distance. I can read body language and unconscious responses like a charm. I have no time for insular, vain, selfish or cruel individuals and sometimes I feel it's my mission to take them down. The authorities and I have definitely had are share of wild rides. Pluto ingrained with the Sun makes you radiate a dangerous, alpha and VERY cathartic/sexual presence that keeps a lot of people at arms length and you can turn a lot of people off and on at the same time.


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posted December 25, 2017 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very specific.

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diamondbaby
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posted February 18, 2018 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's quite similar to a badly aspected Sun in Scorpio or Sun in the 8th house.

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posted February 19, 2018 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by diamondbaby:
It's quite similar to a badly aspected Sun in Scorpio or Sun in the 8th house.

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posted May 16, 2018 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom has the square with Pluto in Virgo. She is Sag Sun.

I think it gives raw guts or one who is forced to develop courage through learning to stand up for the self.

Sometimes it may manifest as a life threatening physical illness or an act of violence that threatens life. Even a life characterized by struggle, strife and survival.

Men with this aspect can be very controlling and secretive about their agenda. Women with this aspect can easily project their inner power to a mate and attract abusive/manipulative partners.

When opposed, these people can be fierce. Especially when they believe themselves right. They can be fanatical. Some seek external power over others to ascertain their own power i.e "I want to rule the world so that all will know how great I am".

The undeveloped ones can be power hungry and greedy for titles and prestige. They can be downright forceful and domineering in their attempt to get it. Pushing everyone out of the way.

The father figure may have been tyrannical or fearful. Also possible that the father figure passed on -leaving the native to depend on other authority figures who disappoint them (square).

Most may be very distrusting of others. But expect to be given leeway to keep their own secrets.

There are likely some secrets/obscure things about the identity or things the individual does not desire to come to light about where they come from.

Betrayal hits them deeply and frequently. And there is often pain associated with life.

This aspect IMO is typical of Scorpio energy. The opp and conjunction too.

The opp has to deal with difficult relationships or tumultuous partnerships. Even betrayal from a close somebody because they align themselves with people so closely.

The conjunction has to deal with issues of image. Either they must learn to modify their approach. They can scare people off or incite hatred in others. Even be completely misunderstood when their intentions are noble.

The sextile and trine are less intense. These ones are more interested in self knowledge and self empowerment. They often "expect" power and are given. Whilst the opposition and square expect it too, but are met with a lot of resistance (barring Venus/Saturn aspects in the chart).

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posted May 17, 2018 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Aries.

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posted May 18, 2018 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
My mom has the square with Pluto in Virgo. She is Sag Sun.

I think it gives raw guts or one who is forced to develop courage through learning to stand up for the self.

Sometimes it may manifest as a life threatening physical illness or an act of violence that threatens life. Even a life characterized by struggle, strife and survival.

Men with this aspect can be very controlling and secretive about their agenda. Women with this aspect can easily project their inner power to a mate and attract abusive/manipulative partners.

When opposed, these people can be fierce. Especially when they believe themselves right. They can be fanatical. Some seek external power over others to ascertain their own power i.e "I want to rule the world so that all will know how great I am".

The undeveloped ones can be power hungry and greedy for titles and prestige. They can be downright forceful and domineering in their attempt to get it. Pushing everyone out of the way.

The father figure may have been tyrannical or fearful. Also possible that the father figure passed on -leaving the native to depend on other authority figures who disappoint them (square).

Most may be very distrusting of others. But expect to be given leeway to keep their own secrets.

There are likely some secrets/obscure things about the identity or things the individual does not desire to come to light about where they come from.

Betrayal hits them deeply and frequently. And there is often pain associated with life.

This aspect IMO is typical of Scorpio energy. The opp and conjunction too.

The opp has to deal with difficult relationships or tumultuous partnerships. Even betrayal from a close somebody because they align themselves with people so closely.

The conjunction has to deal with issues of image. Either they must learn to modify their approach. They can scare people off or incite hatred in others. Even be completely misunderstood when their intentions are noble.

The sextile and trine are less intense. These ones are more interested in self knowledge and self empowerment. They often "expect" power and are given. Whilst the opposition and square expect it too, but are met with a lot of resistance (barring Venus/Saturn aspects in the chart).


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posted May 22, 2018 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sacrifice everything for nothing.
I have Sun Square Pluto.
Sun in Cancer 3rd house and Pluto in Libra 6th house.

http://imgur.com/Tgw6POI

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posted May 22, 2018 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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posted June 02, 2018 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do you say you sacrificed everything for nothing?

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posted June 02, 2018 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one ask be me do things for them.
I always assume in my mind that they need my help.
So I just do.
But when I'm in trouble and looking for return no one give return.
I always create scene in my and never try to realize or see the reality.

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posted June 03, 2018 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for sharing.

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posted June 04, 2018 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we all experience that.

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posted August 20, 2018 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any takers on this?

Are there any Pluto square Sun people out there that would offer a venting of their deep and intense experiences?

Specifically describe who this aspect makes you and what are you feeling? Let it all out

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