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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
My mom has the square with Pluto in Virgo. She is Sag Sun.I think it gives raw guts or one who is forced to develop courage through learning to stand up for the self.
Sometimes it may manifest as a life threatening physical illness or an act of violence that threatens life. Even a life characterized by struggle, strife and survival.
Men with this aspect can be very controlling and secretive about their agenda. Women with this aspect can easily project their inner power to a mate and attract abusive/manipulative partners.
When opposed, these people can be fierce. Especially when they believe themselves right. They can be fanatical. Some seek external power over others to ascertain their own power i.e "I want to rule the world so that all will know how great I am".
The undeveloped ones can be power hungry and greedy for titles and prestige. They can be downright forceful and domineering in their attempt to get it. Pushing everyone out of the way.
The father figure may have been tyrannical or fearful. Also possible that the father figure passed on -leaving the native to depend on other authority figures who disappoint them (square).
Most may be very distrusting of others. But expect to be given leeway to keep their own secrets.
There are likely some secrets/obscure things about the identity or things the individual does not desire to come to light about where they come from.
Betrayal hits them deeply and frequently. And there is often pain associated with life.
This aspect IMO is typical of Scorpio energy. The opp and conjunction too.
The opp has to deal with difficult relationships or tumultuous partnerships. Even betrayal from a close somebody because they align themselves with people so closely.
The conjunction has to deal with issues of image. Either they must learn to modify their approach. They can scare people off or incite hatred in others. Even be completely misunderstood when their intentions are noble.
The sextile and trine are less intense. These ones are more interested in self knowledge and self empowerment. They often "expect" power and are given. Whilst the opposition and square expect it too, but are met with a lot of resistance (barring Venus/Saturn aspects in the chart).
My Leo Sun (in 8th house, double Scorpio dose for me here!) squares tightly (1°) my Pluto Scorpio. I was forced to develop courage. I have raw guts, as you said.
But I prefer to keep this side of me hidden, whilst when I was younger I did all I could to put it on display.
But I am not secretive. I am talkative and often talk freely about my life experiences, even to people I don't know very well. Maybe it's my Saggy rising.
I've definitely experienced pain in my life (up to now), and a great deal of this pain was caused by my father. I need to be wary of emotional vampires though, since I seem to encounter them with a certain frequency. Luckily I do recognize them in a minute and shield myself accordingly.