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Topic: Another Survey: Would you marry or stay married for security?
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miss_muffet unregistered
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posted December 11, 2006 05:17 PM
Given the choice: 1. Would you consider marrying (or stay married to) someone you don't love but provides you with an excellent life; i.e., you don't have to work, just stay at home and take care of the kids, monetary security, etc. - or - 2. Take a chance, say no to marrying (or leave the marriage) and hope that you will eventually find love? Take into consideration that: 1. Your parents absolutely loves the guy or If you are married (you have kids) 2. You are in your late 30's early 40's and have not found love. Would you marry because you feel that this is your last chance of ever having a family of your own (or staying for the sake of children)? What are your placements? Sun/Moon/Asc Venus/Mars/Mercury My answer: 1 - I would marry if I am not married, and I would stay put if I am already married especially if there are kids involved. No reason to hurt another human being just for me, as long as hubby isn't abusive and loves me anyway... could be worse. Aries Sun / Taurus Moon / Scorpio Asc Pisces Venus / Taurus Mars / Pisces Mercury Thanks, MM IP: Logged |
kindjali Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Sep 2009
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posted December 11, 2006 05:23 PM
Better alone whole life in search for some deep, that can fill your heart, than to be with someone because I am alone. I can't lie myself and other person. Better to life this life like a human being than to succumb to "realism". Realism is all around us, but in matters of something deep and love, I follow my heart, even if that means a hard way...we all come to something, sooner or later. But it is me, idealistic Cap.K. IP: Logged |
taurus/gemini cusp Newflake Posts: From: Registered:
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posted December 11, 2006 05:29 PM
I would think about number 1! But only if there were children involved and we had a great friendship between us as well, (basically the same circumstances as you MM!)Sun: Taurus Moon: Aquarius Merc: Taurus Venus: Taurus Mars: Scorpio ASC: Leo IP: Logged |
neptune5 unregistered
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posted December 11, 2006 05:34 PM
I would take 2, but I actually in my heart believe that any smart, intelligent person can find ways that best suit them to provide for themselves, and truly, they would be happier that way.Sun: Sagittarius Moon: Pisces Merc: Sagittarius Venus: Sagittarius Mars: Gemini ASC: Virgo ------------------ Virgo Rising, Sagittarius Sun, Pisces Moon IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 250 From: The Strand Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 11, 2006 05:37 PM
I'd do no. 1 provided you liked the person and there is a friendship there. Being a slightly older person, life is about provision and partnerships, helping each other out and getting by; "the big romance", "the one", sex and passion are minimal at times. Aqu sun Lib moon Sag ven Mars gem Jup aries AC aries IP: Logged |
kindjali Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Sep 2009
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posted December 11, 2006 05:38 PM
My reply was connected with answer 2. I couldnt look myself in the eyes if I am with somebody for security and without love, passionate sex and real friendship.Cappy Sun Sagg AC Piscies Moon Sagg Mars Aqua Venus Cappy Mercury IP: Logged |
miss_muffet unregistered
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posted December 11, 2006 05:41 PM
There is no right or wrong answer in this... Before I met this older woman who went through hell to stay with her husband who cheated on her once, my answer would be undoubtedly be "No way in hell. Would rather be alone than married to someone who had cheated on me, kids or no kids." This woman I met, whose husband cheated on her once... the husband was very repentive and had worked hard for her forgiveness. They stayed together for what would be 14 years now since "the incident". They stayed together mainly for the kids. They have 2. Both are teenagers now and had no idea that the incident ever happened to their parents. The woman never really forgave her husband. I asked her why she would stay where she is and she simply said, that apart from that incident, her husband was a great provider and a great father for the kids... he's very devoted. She has a good life, better than anyone I know. She doesn't work... just shops all day. She's only 40+ but has been retired for over 10 years now. It made me wonder if I could do what she's done and sacrificed love for material comfort and kids... MM
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virgotaurustaurus unregistered
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posted December 11, 2006 05:41 PM
I would choose #2, but that's because the excellent life described in #1 sounds like horror to me! And I just cannot imagine staying with someone I don't love, relationships are not the most important thing to me, I can go without them. My parents would have no effect on what I do, and if I'm in my 30's or 40's and single, that's perfectly fine! I'd make a happy cat lady in older age hahaha. I also do not desire children at all. The things I want in a partner are unconventional and most of them can be found in people in all ages I think (someone adventurous, travel partner, animal lover, artistic). My placements are: Sun Virgo Moon Taurus ASC Taurus Venus Virgo Mars Scorpio Mercury Libra (You left out Uranus, which in my chart is extremely important regarding this type of relationship - it is in my 7th house and making some important aspects.) IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 250 From: The Strand Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 11, 2006 05:43 PM
I too have ura in the 7th and squ my sun and widely/dissociately squ my sat and I think I still would stay. I know what it means to have a good life and I kind of know what it means to struggle. I'd take the good life. Passions come and go. Why do I sound sedate with all that air/fire in my chart??!IP: Logged |
kindjali Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Sep 2009
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posted December 11, 2006 05:44 PM
I think It is easy to answer now, but let we think in the future...5-6 years ahead. Can you imagine to spend all that time without love? Passionate sex and real carrying for partner? You can only feel frustrated and empty inside, like some worm that is eating you day by day, month by month, year by year...."all jewels start to lose brightness after some time"K. P.S. "Security" is a just a word. You can die in car accident next day. IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 250 From: The Strand Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 11, 2006 05:59 PM
I don't think I'm as sexually passionate as others so I can give or take it. Not a guy either. IP: Logged |
xrâräx unregistered
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posted December 11, 2006 05:59 PM
I definitely take number 2. Oohh!, Virgotaurustaurus, I can relate TOTALLY to what u wrote!- Quoting: "number 1 sounds like a horror to me. And I cannot imagine staying with someone I don't love" I don't want children either. Sun in Cancer Moon in Taurus Ascendant in Aquarius Mercury in Leo Venus in Leo Mars in Scorpio
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virgotaurustaurus unregistered
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posted December 11, 2006 06:00 PM
That's so interesting xrarax! Hmm...and we share the Moon and Mars placements! IP: Logged |
miss_muffet unregistered
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posted December 11, 2006 06:03 PM
Turning this same scenario... Would you rather take the risk that you would someday be old and gray, when all your immediate family are dead (will happen someday), not find love and not marry (no family), celebrating Xmas, Birthdays, etc alone with your cats, longing for someone to talk to than have a family with a good provider, and perhaps spend the holidays with your children and your grandchildren, or at the very minimum, your spouse? Love is sometimes so grandiose... some of us are lucky to find it; some aren't. In the end, I think friendship is better than waiting for something that may or may not happen? I don't know... it is all a matter of perspective. Sex and passion do come and go. When you're in your 70's, you won't be thinking about when the next time you will have sex but rather who you can talk to. So friendship will survive sex. I have had the opportunity to see first hand how mature people live the last days of their lives and without family around them, they are very sad. I am not sure if I can do it... My answer when I was in my 20's is way different than mine today. Perhaps as we mature and have had a look at the sadder side of life, our outlook changes? MM
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posted December 11, 2006 06:06 PM
Spot on Miss Muffet - friendship in a relationship is the ultimate, that is why I say no.1; provided you are friends, its way better. Thats what makes a marriage. IP: Logged |
xrâräx unregistered
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posted December 11, 2006 06:07 PM
VirgoTaurusTaurus!ohh yes! and guess what- my venus is in the 6th house (ruled by virgo, right?), and my mercury is in the 7th (libra??) hmm- interesting! IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus unregistered
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posted December 11, 2006 06:12 PM
miss_muffet, I guess I'm not looking at old age the same way you are. I plan on being active long into my life so I'll most likely be in good health. I also plan on being active in other ways so I am thinking I'll probably have friends associated with those activities. I personally do not have a good background with my family and won't really miss them when they go, so any family I would miss is what I create myself. I personally don't want a family and I already tend to celebrate the holidays alone, and I plan on having a good career (I've been working on that non-stop lately) so I will be able to provide for myself. I guess what I'm saying is I'm a really solitary person who doesn't miss people when they aren't around, I'm sure that might sound cruel to some but I'm just comfortable and find others to be an awesome extra but not totally necessary. My outlook may change of course, I'm only 24. IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus unregistered
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posted December 11, 2006 06:14 PM
Yup xrarax you have the house cusp rulers correct! That's so neat how similar we are in both astrology and desires/lack thereof. IP: Logged |
kindjali Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Sep 2009
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posted December 11, 2006 06:16 PM
I took Number 2., and I stay behind what I say, but I agree that after while it is friendship that keeps us together. The more that you are older it is hard to find partner, but living without love? Living with that person and longing for some feeling of love I last felt? No way...Friendship is important, without it nothing makes sense, but there must be feeling of love, not as in days you met, but in some amount there must be. K. P.S. Everything must be in balance, emotions, dreams and reality, they all must make some "picture". IP: Logged |
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posted December 11, 2006 06:18 PM
Yes but friendship is one of the highest forms of love - mind you I am an Aqu IP: Logged |
SagSun unregistered
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posted December 11, 2006 06:19 PM
I would NEVER stay married to someone I don't love!!! Life is too precious to waste your time away on a fake marriage. I want to be able to say when I'm 80, "I have searched for perfect love. And the search was worth it." I know a couple (they have been together for a very long time, they are not married though), where both partners stay in the relationship just because it is more comfortable that way. The man is cheating on his girlfriend and actually loves another woman, but still stays in the "stable" relationship. And his girlfriend accepts that he cheats on her. Of course she is hurt everytime he confesses his infidelities to her, but she just wouldn't give him the boot, because she's too afraid of facing life on her own. I always found it very hard (if not impossible) to grasp why anyone would stay in a relationship with someone out of responsibility or guilt or simply because it is more comfortable that way. Love is not about making everyone else happy (be it your parents or friends) or meeting any outdated expectations from society. Love is about making yourself and the one you TRULY love happy. My placements: Sun: Sagittarius Moon: Leo Ascendant: Pisces Mercury: Sagittarius Venus: Libra Mars: Libra IP: Logged |
kindjali Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Sep 2009
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posted December 11, 2006 06:22 PM
Agree Sag Sun...Life is to precious, and our "job" on this world is to give and feel love. "You must feel what is sorrow and when you lost something, so you could really know what is love. For others it is a just a word that they can describe. You can't describe it, you must feel it".K. IP: Logged |
miss_muffet unregistered
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posted December 11, 2006 06:23 PM
Excellent perspective, VTT. I guess I am just coming to terms that I found 3 gray hairs on my head this week... lol.It's scary feeling like life had just seem passed me by. I have lived the past 17 years of my life only with my immediate family - hubby and kids. I have no extended family here whatsoever so I am apprehensive to say that I will give up what I have to go find something that may or may not exits. I don't have to of course because hubby and I do love each other. But just thinking I that someone out there probably have to make that choice makes me cringe. I think I will always want to find that one special friend that I can share absolutely everything with. Maybe if I have a friend like that, I won't mind so much being alone. MM
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InLoveWithLife unregistered
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posted December 11, 2006 06:23 PM
I really dont know how to answer the question. But if i am already married, and there r no major hiccups, and we have a solid friendship, i wud tend tp stay. this is because i feel that no one can know what 'true love' is. and even with true love, it is possible for passion to come and go. tht's my feeling.ILWL IP: Logged |
kindjali Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Sep 2009
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posted December 11, 2006 06:26 PM
I know that you are Aqua, 23 , friendship and mental stimulation is highest form of love, and I like that also. But maybe in your life, I hope, somebody will show you "true" love. K. IP: Logged |