posted May 24, 2007 05:50 AM            

Acoustic,

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God puts gold and pearls in mostly nondescript rocks (If you're not finding good relationships, you might want to change where you're looking for them. Step away from your preconceived notions.)

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posted May 24, 2007 08:24 AM              

1. It's important to have a woman who helps at home, cooks, cleans and has a good job.

2. It's important to have a woman who can make you laugh.

3. It's important to have a woman who you can trust and doesn't lie.

4. It's important to have a woman who is good in bed and likes being with you.

And...

5. Its very, very important that these four women don't ever find out about each other

posted May 24, 2007 09:42 AM            

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Strength of character cannot be obtained by lack of sensitivity. Simply because without the sensitivity to truly feel the pain one cannot work through it in order to come out more strong in character.
Sometimes what appears as strength is only a mask worn to cover the inseurities inside the person.

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Oh I not saying sensitivity in general is a weak attribute; Far from it actually. What I am saying is excessiveness of sensitivity (or overzealous anger for that matter) is by every means a weak attribute. Where you say people may mask their weak charecteristics with what is precieved to be strength, total sensitivity IMO is a blatent show of those insecurities right out. Now, if one wants to work on that little problem and improve on it, that's a different senerio all togather and people are usually attracted to those who stand up and fight regradless of their drawbacks. I really recommed you watch the movie GATTACA . Brilliant movie.

posted May 24, 2007 10:14 AM              

Xodian:

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We tend to isloate and try to pass down attributes which we think will lead to an ample chance at success in life. Well... Total sensitivity ain't one of them ppl. As much as I hate to say it... Its in our insticts to look for someone with strong charactersitics.

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I noticed you said "Total sensitivity".
Do you think that's possible?
Do you think a person can be Totally anything?

People have different views of people, strengths, weakness.
They are so much more complex than you seem to view them or give them credit for, or freedom to be.
Probably what you see as admirable,
I would see at impressionability, weakness and vice.
Maybe we should both look at why we get so annoyed...you by sensitivity, me by vanity.
I'm sure I have things to learn about myself.

You seem to look to what the world defines as successful or the current status quo.
And tell us "it is this way--a fact."
If you're recipee is successful for you, I can understand why you wouldn't look too far beyond it.
But there are other people who are different than you, with different desires.
Whatever makes anyone happy, is cool.
But don't assume your happiness is everyones.
The only thing I have difficulty with, is narrow perception that can't see the possibility of anything beyond, and tells me
"this is how it is."
No, it's not how it is.
It's how you see it. It's what you value.
Probably your way of thinking is more prominent.
Which is why is takes so much strength to walk
a different way.

posted May 24, 2007 11:04 AM              

In fact, I think you just proved that to Xodian. No one could mistake your sensitivity for having no backbone. LOL

AG I completely agree with your words.

Dew, Funny but it's also is very true because there is no such thing as a perfect man or woman.

posted May 24, 2007 12:19 PM            

Anyways, I also agree with AG's quote too!(just forgot to mention so)

AG

posted May 24, 2007 12:35 PM            

Trust me... I wouldn't have brought up the point if I didn't see the problem myself.

Have a read:
http://psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-3584.html

As you can see, even the experts are starting to notice a few kinks in uber-nurthing Lol!

Dulce:

posted May 24, 2007 03:09 PM            

There is a lingering problem here on this forum; People here in general seem to get wayyy too overly sensitive without even a hint of objectivity in their arguments and views (sorry guys but you do it a lot.)

posted May 24, 2007 03:49 PM            

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The male should be slightly more aggressive and emotionally controlled but not without any humility and vulnerability, and the female should be slightly more receptive, and sensitive without being completely needy and co-dependent.

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posted May 24, 2007 04:03 PM            

As long as the couple in question has no problem with it whatsoever, then yeah... kudos for them.

In major cases however, this doesn't work. An more agressive female will continue to yern for someone with a bit more... "aggresive compulsions" Lol! Since she would see him as a more compatible match with her personality.

posted May 24, 2007 04:21 PM            

The truth is that in a lot of cases people are attracted to what they are not. Take Capricorn and Cancer. Capricorn is drawn to Cancer because Cancer is so in touch with his/her feelings, which is something that is foreign to the Capricorn. Likewise, Cancer is attracted to Capricorn, because Capricorn has that ability to detach so easily from things like Cancer would love to be able to do. They get to experience those things they lack by being with the person that has those qualities.

posted May 24, 2007 04:31 PM              

humans are complex. that is why i don't like to engage in discussions that are of a 'general', or worse, 'objective' nature.

posted May 24, 2007 04:35 PM            

Acoustic:

Hmmm... see now we are going in a compelety new direction Lol! We are throwing in physical sex appeal in the mix as well . A man doesn't has to be alpha to show his wonderous traits of masulanity. That is not the point I am trying to make. When you look at the world in general, men do most of the tasks that have become synonymous with women and feminity better (e.g. cooks, fashion designers, etc.)

However, these guys are perfectly aware of who and what they are and have the guts to stand up and defend their position and their careers.

Those who lack such traits only end up being in a relationship due to the fact that their partner wants to be with them for materialistic security reasons (may it be financial, etc.)

This is why sensitivity is usually looked down upon in general. If a man can be a stay at home dad and have no trouble with it what so ever and even takes great pride in the task without any second thoughts about it whatsoever, then kudos; He'll be appreciated greatly for what he does.

I guess we can go back to the argument Dulce pointed out; There is a difference between sensitvity and spinelessness. However, sensitivity is usually associated with spinelessness because the man/woman usually lacks the aggressive traits to stand up and fight for his/her position.

posted May 24, 2007 04:57 PM            

In the micro level however, it rarely works; especially in relationships (and this is where I tend to not believe in astrological couple compatibility Lol!) If by ying and yang, you mean a person's own internal balance then yes, it works very well.

posted May 24, 2007 05:02 PM              

what i find more exasperating is that when the roles are reversed, the woman especially likes to put on a show of being coy. i find tht very annoying. she rules with an iron hand, yet feels the need to use kid gloves. and no, the couple that i am talking about, the woman does NOT want a male to dominate her. it would be like having hitler and mussolini under the same roof.

posted May 24, 2007 05:06 PM              

How much water/earth do you have in your chart?

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With an aggresive person, the teacher needs to have some level of passive/aggresiveness or the pupil in question will not take their POVs seriously. Hence it leads to discord and nothing is learned. Hence I go back to my point on how one cannot be too sensitive

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