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Topic: interracial compatibiliy
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Xodian
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 09, 2007 04:08 PM
  
Oh Dulce... Must be the Cancer in you  . She loved him and cared for him and remained by his side even when the other gods ridiculed him, but she didn't deny her own inner desires. She didn't repress them, She didn't lie to herself. You really can't tell me that you don't have a crush on a celebrity even though you have a boyfriend . Now just imagine that celebrity saying yes to being with you in a relationship. It may not be love but it is your inner desire is it not?I am not condoning the act of cheating but I do understand as to why most people do it and its far from reasons related to the pleasures of the flesh. That is why I believe in the open relationship model so firmly. IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri
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posted June 09, 2007 04:08 PM
Dulce i know i know. I never claimed APhy to be perfect. Ha far from it! But she wasn't the way current society portrays her or the view she got in Medieval Times. And she certainly wasn't stupid which is what im complaining about in Xena.
Selfish and vain definately...as for slutty we have to reaaaaally redefine slutty here. My opinion of a **** is a woman who freely gives herself for the pleasure of men and in seeking their approval thus sells her body. I do not think someone who freely expresses their sexuality for their being is a **** . Aphrodite could be argued for both and against. So its certainly up to enterpretation for who she did it all. I don't wanna portray her as an angel at all. And i don't think Xodian does either being he used words like "venomous and femme fatale". She was the goddess of romantic love though. Think Pygmalion and Galatea. She wasn't the goddess of marriage though that was Hera. But either way love in all forms was her specialty. Erotic more so but it could be romantic. Could be the love of a seductress. Any of these. quote:
We aren't arguing if she was perfect or not; Just that her character was way too inaccurately portrayed in Xena.
Exactly because Xena kinda emphasized her "dumb blonde valley girl" thing and thats just rediculous. She certainly wasn't trailer trash....or Pam Anderson for that matter (sorry i dislike her a ton)....or Paris Hilton...none of these and thats wat Xena made her seem as. quote:
True that she cheated on her husband but notice that she did remain loyal to him and stayed by his side even when other gods labled him ugly.
Actually she had no choice here...
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Xodian
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From: Canada
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posted June 09, 2007 04:31 PM
Yeah there that whole delimma of how she was married off to Hephestus since Zeus had to keep the peace between her and the goddesses Lol! For those who don't know, Zeus married Aphroditie off to Hephestus since her beauty magnitized even the gods themselves and well... the goddesses were jealous of her because of that. Sooo... inorder to prevent the biggest divine Cat-fight, she was paired off with the ugliest god to keep the peace. IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri
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posted June 09, 2007 04:49 PM
Hmmm devine cat fights sound like fun fun fun! meeeowIP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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From: The Asylum, NC
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 09, 2007 04:57 PM
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She loved him and cared for him and remained by his side even when the other gods ridiculed him, but she didn't deny her own inner desires. She didn't repress them, She didn't lie to herself. You really can't tell me that you don't have a crush on a celebrity even though you have a boyfriend
Well you both may see it as her being true to herself, but I see it as irresponsible, selfish, and an obvious lack of self control; something that quickly makes me lose respect for people (Sorry, its a Plutonian thing). And LOL, the celebrity crush is not even comparibile because the difference is we're not going around and screwing the celebrities we crush on, now are we? To me, Its almost the same as someone crushing on a gay man/woman: its safe because you know that its HIGHLY UNLIKELY that anything would ever happen. And even if the celebrity did come up to me one day I would decline because I happen to love the person I'm with and not the celebrity.  IP: Logged |
babeefoxx
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posted June 10, 2007 01:01 AM
...about Aqua ascendants.
My mother (aqua ascendant) is Mexican and my father is white.My Aries sun/aqua ascendant friend is Portuguese and recently got into a
relationship with an Aqua sun Filipino guy. TRUE! IP: Logged |
Xodian
Moderator Posts: 275
From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 10, 2007 09:08 AM
Dulce:Keep in mind that she was forced into a marriage with Hephestus; She didn't choose him. Yet even when she was forced into that union, she cared for the lame god. That required a big heart IMO; A big capacity to love. IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
Newflake Posts: 7
From: The Asylum, NC
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 10, 2007 10:04 AM
Even though she was forced into a union with him you still say that she loved him. So wouldn't it make sense that if she really loved him she would honor her vows? It sounds more she was unhappy to me. I know in today's world people could just divorce and back then she really had no choice and that's probably stuck with him (it had little to do with love). But even in that circumstance, 1 lover I would understand but when it gets to #5, 6, 7,and 8 IMO that equals promiscuity and therefore someone who has zero self control. I mean, people sometimes have little crushes even in marriages (that's out of our control), but the difference is that most people don't act on them. And that's what seperates those who have self control from those who clearly lack it. Which brings me back to why I think the portrayal of her on Xena was a realistic one with a touch of comedy thrown in (the dumb blonde thing).
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Xodian
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posted June 10, 2007 01:29 PM
Its not a matter of self control in such a dilemma; Its a matter of self-worth. I don't think anyone likes to be offered up as a bargening chip just to please to oh so self-image concious goddess of mount olympus and restricted to from being one's self. Aphrodite should have had every right to just discard Hepestus and move on living the way she should but she still chose to care for the man even when she doesn't really has to.There are no vows to honour; How can there be vows to honour if the union was forced? She could have just easily blown him off but there was too much at stake to just simply end the union. She just stayed in the union to keep the peace and care for Hephestus who was ridiculed for his deformations. Instead... she went for a sneaky compromise instead and I don't blame her for it one bit. Loyalty is only strong as the mutual connection between two people. Forced unions do not forge bonds nor does a person has to honour them. However it requires a great deal of character to care for someone that you were forced upon on. So no... Xena portrayal of Aphy didn't even come close. IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
Newflake Posts: 7
From: The Asylum, NC
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 10, 2007 08:03 PM
Ummm, you forget that she neither discarded dear hubby nor blew him off. And now that you mention that she could've easily done any of the above, I think she had an obligation to honor the vows if she were to stay with him.
*edit* Oh wait, you never said that it would've been easy for her to do any of the above, my mistake. However, because of the sheer number of partners she had, my opinion of her still stands (promiscious w/ an obvious lack of self control) and consequently does my opinion of her portrayal on Xena (that it was a realistic one).
Of course, you entitled to your opinion of the above, but you still haven't convinced me to your side and I haven't conviced you to my side so I'm afraid we're gonna have to just agree to disagree.  IP: Logged |
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