Lindaland
  Astrology
  I hate begging but please!! I need some answers... :-( (Page 3)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone!
This topic is 4 pages long:   1  2  3  4 
next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   I hate begging but please!! I need some answers... :-(
Mama Mia
Knowflake

Posts: 117
From:
Registered: Feb 2010

posted October 29, 2007 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vanny: Sweetie life is full of lessons and this is just one of many as you may already know..Closure is what you were mainly looking for and now you have it..The best is yet to come, wait until you feel this connection again but even more wait until that person feels it back too and stays there with you..Never mind the ppl that could not offer a word of encouragement instead they felt the need to tear you down when your already feeling bad enough..What they should have been doing is encouraging you to move on and there will be others instead of making you feel like you did something wrong for caring..I know that your new but I hope that you stick around to see what nice things this board has to offer, we are not all jack azzez...

IP: Logged

tifavirgo85
unregistered
posted October 30, 2007 05:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is because you wouldnt do him again... pisces men are hurt easily from even the slightest rebuff they question themselves from this....he doesnt think you like him anymore cus you didnt wanna do it with him again.. cus that translates into a man's brain"im not a goodlover and i didnt please her"

IP: Logged

CoralFrequency
Newflake

Posts: 0
From:
Registered: Aug 2009

posted October 30, 2007 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
instead of making you feel like you did something wrong for caring..

If you are referring to me, in this statement.. the only thing I was trying to make her do (feel).. is *not* ask herself the question "why" for the next 3 months.. and keep calling him, instead of moving on. Because asking for a synastry reading and wondering 'why' - which was her initial post - seriously did not sound like her moving on. If her post sounded like she was about to move on, I wouldn't have said anything at all.

The only thing I *did* make her feel, it seems.. is nothing at all, which is pretty much what I expected would happen.

In her post she recognized that her title was dramatic and she didn't get affected by my posts.. which is great.. because that's exactly the sort of person who *should* be posting personal things online.. as opposed to overly sensitive people who shouldn't be.

You can't see that? That's cool.

But please don't put words in my mouth or her mouth and relate what I was or was not "making someone feel"

By the way, she didn't say she was leaving

quote:
we are not all jack azzez.

I think it's ironic how, I haven't called anyone names like heartless, sadistic or jack azz.. yet the people who think I am these things, feel perfectly comfortable name-calling, when something doesn't suit them.

StillatLarge,

quote:
Relationships and men are the number one reason women turn to astrology in the first place.

That's kind of silly though. There is so much more to astrology. If the only person these women want to understand in the world (through astro) is the guy they are doing at the time, that's pretty sad..

Not all astrology boards are exactly like this one and not all women fall in that category. Anyway, I do still like a lot of people here, which is why I haven't left.

IP: Logged

jane
Knowflake

Posts: 1277
From:
Registered: Jul 2009

posted October 30, 2007 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CoralFrequency - The bad reaction you're getting in this thread is probably more due to the way you insulted the 3 posters before you while praising yourself, than it is to the actual "advice" you gave the OP.

quote:
What cloud do you people live on? I might move there one day, when I want to be completely oblivious to life as it is. Ignorance may well be bliss.

What cloud do you live on that their responses demonstrated a "complete obliviousness to life"? Maybe they've since edited their posts and had originally said, "Start picking out china patterns, because this guy is the one!" If not, they all told her to move on. The only thing you did that they didn't do was explicitly mock her for her excessive phone calls, but Geo did allude to that when she said she'd been acting manic lately.

That quote of yours, plus where you said something about people looking at their charts and telling them they'd live happily ever after were both so far removed from the reality of what was actually going on in this thread, that it seemed like you were just using this thread as a place for you to dump your frustrations about other relationship threads here. Like you'd finally gotten to the point where you couldn't take the lovefool insanity anymore and snapped.

People melodramatically moaning "why??" may bother you more than it does others b/c of your Cap influence. I know a lot of Cappies and have a strong Cap influence myself. I love the energy, but Caps are usually emotionally self-contained. They don't ask for advice when they're emotionally hurting, they wait until they've figured out how they think about an emotional problem before they share their views on it with others. But many other people like some guidance to help them get from Point A: sloppy, vulnerable, irrational emotion to Point B: acceptance and detachment. Mocking someone who's still at Point A is what bullies do. To you it may seem that people asking for help are only seeking endorsement, but many people actually do want guidance on the journey to closure.

And what's up with the "fake love problems" link? Fake because what's causing them pain doesn't match your standard for what's meaningful. And yes, life could always be crueler, and yes, the adored object often isn't worthy of the lovesick person's attention...but everyone goes on the journey of emotional reaction to acceptance and detachment. Even Cappy Moons. But you likely go on that journey in private.

You actually remind me a little bit of my sister, but I think she's even more extreme than you. She's a Cap with a Gemini Asc. Relationships aren't a big focus for her and she absolutely doesn't spend time analyzing them. Reality is what it is; move on and don't ask why. Her version of the film torture scene in "A Clockwork Orange" would be being forced to read threads like these.

IP: Logged

Lucia23
Knowflake

Posts: 1840
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted October 30, 2007 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When someone posts on an astrology forum in search of help and insight interpreting a natal or synastry chart, it seems reasonable enough to offer that person ASTROLOGICAL help and analysis. Or, if you have some moral or personal objection to how they're using astrology, perhaps moving on and responding to other posts, that you feel are more worthy, with ASTROLOGICAL analysis.

I've drifted to forums other than Lindaland, because far too often, people here respond with moral analysis or opinion without actually just looking at the chart. As someone learning astrology, it's helpful to me to read good chart interpretations with explanations. The automatically-generated blurbs on websites are not as rich as the analyses of real astrologers, who can better look at the chart as a whole, and can describe how it connects to life situations.

Analyzing the charts (or your synastry with) people you feel passionate about and have complicated or confusing relationships with can be a great way to learn astrology, and to become more accomplished at viewing a whole chart.

IP: Logged

heart cakes
unregistered
posted October 30, 2007 02:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm.. this is definately interesting.

as i said before, my mom is a cappy moon and she did not talk about her feelings either. but man was she bitter about love. she hated my dad with a passion and with each failed relationship thereafter she became increasingly hostile toward me.

maybe, coral frequency, you can relate to feeling.. let down in love as well? maybe you have some wisdom to share about being realistic, but also maybe you could learn something about letting your guard down a bit? sorry, that sounds patronizing. don't mean it to. objectivity is my goal here.

IP: Logged

CoralFrequency
Newflake

Posts: 0
From:
Registered: Aug 2009

posted October 30, 2007 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane, the things I said in my first post were partially said from annoyance at those other posts, as you mentioned. I thought that was obvious because I even posted a link to another thread, I made a while ago, where I was making a joke about it.
I said about those posters that I believe they live on a cloud.. which I continue to believe.. and it isn't confined to those three posters by any means. They can take that as an insult or my flawed opinion, or however they like to take it.

What I was saying earlier is that I didn't call anyone names. Did you think I was insinuating that I didn't insult anyone?

All the Capricorn things you said I agree with.. The last bit cracked me up lol

quote:
but everyone goes on the journey of emotional reaction to acceptance and detachment. Even Cappy Moons. But you likely go on that journey in private.

I think the low threshold is what gets me, because it worries me and makes me think: how will they deal with something more serious? I mean, if my Sag died in a surfing accident (which happened to someone I know of), then obviously I would get very hurt and cry my heart out.. or if I had two kids and was in the middle of a horrible divorce.. I could see myself feeling very bad about that and crying myself to sleep every night. But with something like this, I don't see it..

Heart cakes, I'm not bitter about love at all. What I am bitter about, is people (on here, but in real life as well) constantly talking about negative experiences and very rarely mentioning anything positive - often making mountains of negativity out of molehills. It brings the mood down overall imo There are always going to be problems in your life, some much worse than others. You should enjoy the times when you don't have any serious probs.

I have been very let down in love once (in the post I deleted before I wrote about the childhood friend/my first love who became drug addicted and his personality changed 180 deg).. but it has balanced out a lot.. because most of the guys in my life have been very positive. I can't complain. It isn't bitterness. It's a feeling of sadness and maybe anger as well.. that these girls would waste so much time over things that are leading nowhere, instead of being with the right guy.
When you are open to a positive experience it will definitely come into your life, because you have positive energy and you draw that to you.. But when you are sad and depressed or angry (I'm not one to preach on anger lol).. or focusing on *one* person who doesn't deserve it.. on a vibe level, it's almost like you shut down from everyone else.. and you are not open to someone who is actually good for you, coming into your life.

IP: Logged

NAM
unregistered
posted October 30, 2007 04:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I think the low threshold is what gets me, because it worries me and makes me think: how will they deal with something more serious? I mean, if my Sag died in a surfing accident (which happened to someone I know of), then obviously I would get very hurt and cry my heart out.. or if I had two kids and was in the middle of a horrible divorce.. I could see myself feeling very bad about that and crying myself to sleep every night. But with something like this, I don't see it..

But you don't get to that point in life without learning and having little heartbrakes along the line.To her this feels extremely painful until she moves on and finds another bad situation more involved like the ones you are mentioning, and then you will move on again, but not without feeling at a very low and truely hurt.In fact I am willing to say that if you would not pay attention to this pain and understand it and then move on then you will never really let go of it and it will create a trauma eventually.


quote:
Heart cakes, I'm not bitter about love at all. What I am bitter about, is people (on here, but in real life as well) constantly talking about negative experiences and very rarely mentioning anything positive - often making mountains of negativity out of molehills. It brings the mood down overall imo There are always going to be problems in your life, some much worse than others. You should enjoy the times when you don't have any serious probs.

I have been very let down in love once (in the post I deleted before I wrote about the childhood friend/my first love who became drug addicted and his personality changed 180 deg).. but it has balanced out a lot.. because most of the guys in my life have been very positive. I can't complain. It isn't bitterness.


As far as peoiple talking about negative stuff all the time , yes I feel the same way, but if you are going to say that you are getting your information about people being unhappy by coming to an astrology forum where people are asking for answers, then yes, it will have that effect.
I mean let's face it , what is the most important thing to most people in the end?
(a partner).


quote:
It's a feeling of sadness and maybe anger as well.. that these girls would waste so much time over things that are leading nowhere, instead of being with the right guy.

If you think is that easy to find the right guy then please share that with me,because I am 36 now and still haven't found him!
I want to know

no, really? how do you find the right partner? I am not kidding about this question, I love to have an answer!

IP: Logged

Mama Mia
Knowflake

Posts: 117
From:
Registered: Feb 2010

posted October 30, 2007 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Expereince is the best teacher thats it thats all...No one can tell no one what they should or should not be going through what what they should and should not be feeling..And most of all how they should be handling adverstiy in their life.
Encouragement to do better is always a plus but anything else is negative to me..If a person is lucky enough not to have had much heartbreak or very lil good for them but some people have to go through certain things to get to where they need to be. and if you are one of the lucky one's does not mean that you have the right to say or feel like how another person handle their affair is wrong. This is a public forum and if ppl don't want to hear about others mistakes and how they decide to handle their adversity then they are granted free will to do something else like not read the post or go somewhere else and do something else. Anytime some one comes on this board and expresses heartbreak and I read their post rather they are 21 or 91 I am going to spread some positive energy thier way, especially if I have been through what they are going through..We need to support one another more and if you can't thats fine I just rather not say anything to me if I post about something that bothering me if it will not come across to me as uplifting..

Each one teach one..

IP: Logged

Dulce Luna
Newflake

Posts: 7
From: The Asylum, NC
Registered: Apr 2009

posted October 30, 2007 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
No one can tell no one what they should or should not be going through what what they should and should not be feeling..And most of all how they should be handling adverstiy in their life.


Maybe this is what has been really been p1ssing me of about certain people in this thread. Two petpeeves of mine are people who tell others how they should feel and when they should feel it. And I'm a Capricorn rising too so how do you like them apples? Anyways, I completely agree.

quote:
The only people making this thread about me are the ones who continue to talk *about* me. I was talking about the thread topic, not about myself,

And I will say once again that even if you did not intend to make this thread about yourself, how could you have not expected the focus to be on you considering you basically just flamed this thread with that first post?

Afterall, if a thread bothers you THAT much, wouldn't it be reasonable that you just move on to another topic like most people do?

IP: Logged

CoralFrequency
Newflake

Posts: 0
From:
Registered: Aug 2009

posted October 30, 2007 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nam, you are not actually her and she isn't actually on this thread anymore.. She said what she had to say in her last post and didn't sound nearly as fatalistic about it, as you or others.

About the astro comment I typed "real life" as well, in that paragraph.

About the right guy thing.. if you are happy with who you are, you'll draw tens of right people to you. Usually I become friends first and get to know the person. I guess that's how I make sure they are right.
I disagree though. A partner isn't the most important thing to everyone. Different people have different priorities.

Mamamia, when something bothers a person, they have the choice to ignore it, or do something about it . Choosing to reply, as opposed to ignore is my prerogative. Sometimes I ignore.. Sometimes I reply.

Dulce, "how could you have not expected that" - Why wouldn't I expect that? Are you suggesting that whenever you perceive someone as rude, you make them the focus of your attention and continue to talk about them for the next three days, whilst completely ignoring the thread poster? I don't see how I could "expect" that.

quote:
if a thread bothers you THAT much, wouldn't it be reasonable that you just move on to another topic like most people do?

No. It wouldn't be reasonable in my view. I would actually feel guilty if I did that, because in my opinion no one here was spelling things out for her, and your posts imo were endorsing more "whys" and lalaland ideas about their relationship.

:edit:Also, Dulce you seem to be putting words in my mouth as well.. "telling people how they should feel".. I'm not sure where you got that from. If you necessarily want to continue this thread, please post back-up to the things you say.. and quote me where you feel I was doing this.

I am leaving this thread, because it's getting a bit ridiculous - and I feel like people (including me) are typing for the sake of typing. We're not really talking about anything anymore and it is becoming very repetitive. The person who posted this isn't here, as far as I gather, and she has already received the advice she wanted - like she said. This conversation seems completely pointless.

Have a nice day, all

IP: Logged

Dulce Luna
Newflake

Posts: 7
From: The Asylum, NC
Registered: Apr 2009

posted October 30, 2007 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Dulce, "how could you have not expected that" - Why wouldn't I expect that? Are you suggesting that whenever you perceive someone as rude, you make them the focus of your attention and continue to talk about them for the next three days, whilst completely ignoring the thread poster? I don't see how I could "expect" that.

Trust me, you haven't been on my mind during the past 3-4 days. But, You could've just apologized for your rudeness earlier in this thread and maybe this would've been over before it started. But no, you kept holding on to this and excusing yourself because for some reason it seems that you're *always* right and your way is the best way.......even when it clearly is not.


quote:
edit:Also, Dulce you seem to be putting words in my mouth as well.. "telling people how they should feel".. I'm not sure where you got that from. If you necessarily want to continue this thread, please post back-up to the things you say.. and quote me where you feel I was doing this.

You see, I'd do that but that would mean that I would have to recite every single thing you posted under this thread which is just a waste of time and energy on my part. Point is that I've been getting the "suck it up and be a man about it" vibe from all your posts under this thread. This particular quote is a perfect example....

quote:
I think the low threshold is what gets me, because it worries me and makes me think: how will they deal with something more serious? I mean, if my Sag died in a surfing accident (which happened to someone I know of), then obviously I would get very hurt and cry my heart out.. or if I had two kids and was in the middle of a horrible divorce.. I could see myself feeling very bad about that and crying myself to sleep every night. But with something like this, I don't see it.

You think that just because people go through worse, she should be happy and fortunate which I agree with you.....to a point. The similarity ends at the "suck it up" part. Don't get me wrong, I do agree that she should try to move on which is EXACTLY what everyone else has been saying......in a more sensible way. But Just because her experience is not as bad as say.....'someone who lost a loved one', doesn't mean that her emotional pain is any less valid then the person in the latter situation and I feel trying to push the opposite in her face.


quote:
I am leaving this thread, because it's getting a bit ridiculous - and I feel like people (including me) are typing for the sake of typing. We're not really talking about anything anymore and it is becoming very repetitive. The person who posted this isn't here, as far as I gather, and she has already received the advice she wanted - like she said. This conversation seems completely pointless.

Then next time don't be the sh#t-stirrer, ok?


IP: Logged

NAM
unregistered
posted October 30, 2007 08:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nevermind I read that wrong LOL

IP: Logged

Xodian
Moderator

Posts: 275
From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2009

posted October 30, 2007 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I think I have said the same thing before onthis forum and well, just for the sake of "getting the point" across, I'll say it again:

Coral or any individual with a like mindset is allowed to say whatever he/she wants as long as it doesn't violates a forum's T&C (Terms and Conditions.) As far as I can see, she did gave an assesment that clearly isn't violating the T&C in anyway and thus she is allowed to say it in her own view (doesn't matter if one deems it sensible or not; Its not breaking the rules.)

People are allowed to disagree with the content of her post but they can't reasonably say that "Coral can't say it that way!" Offcourse she can say it that way; Its not violating forum rules.

However at the same time, the contents of her posts can be questioned and obviously her comparision of Vanny's plight to other more "serious" matters of the world is a deluded comparision. Obviously Coral, you are not Vanny and thus you can't say what she can or cannot do. Ironically, its what you are defending for yourself.

IP: Logged

CoralFrequency
Newflake

Posts: 0
From:
Registered: Aug 2009

posted October 30, 2007 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol ok so now it's heartless, sadistic, jack azz and sh*it stirrer.

When I was harsh in this thread .. and in other threads in the past (about the same issue), it had a purpose.. and the purpose was *not* to ask anyone to be a man or to hurt their feelings. This is your personal interpretation. My purpose was that they don't spend months asking questions they will not receive answers to, thus becoming more and more hurt.

What exactly is your purpose in continuing your beef with me?

That isn't rhetorical. I'm actually wondering what you are hoping to achieve by carrying on. You know my opinions and they are not changing on this issue. I don't believe I'm right or wrong as I said previously. I don't know. I'm not God so I have no clue if there is such thing as objective truth or what this truth would be… but these are the opinions I hold and I have my reasons (reasons that I have stated).

I have never said to anyone here including you - that you are *wrong*.. I don't believe you are wrong. We simply disagree on several points and principles.

Both you and Nam, on the other hand, have phrased things as "wrong" and "right".. You also think I should apologize since what I said was "wrong".. which suggests that you believe you are right and I am wrong. I have not said anything along those lines.

I am not saying you should apologize because it's wrong to call me a shi*t stirrer or heartless (Nam), simply because my actions disagree to your principle of if you have nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all. .. Even though that is slightly contradictory, considering you have both said not so nice things towards me.

I would never say it is wrong, because *that* is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

Have a nice day, again lol

IP: Logged

CoralFrequency
Newflake

Posts: 0
From:
Registered: Aug 2009

posted October 30, 2007 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Xodian, thanks for posting the first part.

When it comes to - "what she can or cannot do".. I don't understand why I'm coming across this way. What I'm trying to say is more along the lines of what will cause her happiness and what will cause her harm in my opinion.. I can't tell someone what they can or can't do. I was telling her what I think she should do, since the opposite would be self-harming.

I guess I'm also saying, that people should take the good with the bad and enjoy their lives, because negative experiences will always be a part of life - unfortunately - in some way..
My words are expressed as should not can or can not..
Maybe I just sound didactic. I'm not trying to be though. The should is in my opinion only. I'm aware of that. I'm not saying it's a universal truth.

IP: Logged

NAM
unregistered
posted October 30, 2007 10:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Even though that is slightly contradictory, considering you have both said not so nice things towards me.

Can you please back this up with a quote from any of my posts towards you, maybe I don't even realize it and I said "not so nice" things towards you.

IP: Logged

CoralFrequency
Newflake

Posts: 0
From:
Registered: Aug 2009

posted October 30, 2007 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I pointed those things out in my reply to your first post.

IP: Logged

NAM
unregistered
posted October 30, 2007 10:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok child you win, you are giving me a heartache now, (I really don't see any of that not being nice).
But I am done, I will love to pick up this conversation in 10 yrs though.
Maybe we won't go round and round.

IP: Logged

CoralFrequency
Newflake

Posts: 0
From:
Registered: Aug 2009

posted October 30, 2007 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
win what?

I can't believe you're serious.

I thought you did actually want to talk for a second, and now it turns out you were still annoyed with me.. Never mind.

I'm not winning anything. What am I winning?
Chocolate Fudge?

*sigh*

IP: Logged

NAM
unregistered
posted October 30, 2007 11:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmmm chocolate fudge sounds good!

yes, of course I would talk but it doesn't seem we are talking and I am pretty drained right now to argue.

IP: Logged

Dulce Luna
Newflake

Posts: 7
From: The Asylum, NC
Registered: Apr 2009

posted October 31, 2007 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Both you and Nam, on the other hand, have phrased things as "wrong" and "right".. You also think I should apologize since what I said was "wrong".. which suggests that you believe you are right and I am wrong. I have not said anything along those lines.

No, I never said you should apologize for being *wrong*, I said you should've apologized for being rude.

I don't even know why I have decided to continue this either, as I don't really have any problem with you besides what's gone on in this thread. Perhaps I shall back away again as the OP is not even here anymore anyways.

IP: Logged

CoralFrequency
Newflake

Posts: 0
From:
Registered: Aug 2009

posted October 31, 2007 05:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have a problem with you either.

IP: Logged

jane
Knowflake

Posts: 1277
From:
Registered: Jul 2009

posted November 02, 2007 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Coral - Since this thread was buried a bit, I debated whether to respond. I decided to go ahead and do so, but if you've moved on, don't feel pressured to respond as well. (Not that I have to remind an Aries to do what she wants to do, but just in case... )

"What I was saying earlier is that I didn't call anyone names. Did you think I was insinuating that I didn't insult anyone?"

A part of what I was saying is that it shouldn't be at all surprising that if you insult people while praising yourself, that people will share with you their opinion on a person who treats people in that way. The distinction between name-calling and the disrespectful way you spoke to the posters before you is so small, why even bother harping on it? Doing so looks silly. You give up the civility and reasoned discourse card when you talk down to people like that. It's not like your post simply shared a differing view; you said that the people who didn't hold yours were ignorant and oblivious. But that wasn't my main point with that quote of yours.

You said that those posters were oblivious to reality and ignorant. What about their responses made you characterize them in that way? Like I said, no need to answer this question here if you're finished with this thread, but it's something worth thinking about. Maybe you'll then see what your post revealed to others about who you are. (It came across like, "Give this question the type of response I think it deserves, or else you're out of touch with reality.") Your response to the OP also came across as intolerant: "Your relationship doesn't meet xyz, so it's 'fake', and therefore not worthy of the type of discussion you requested. Others who dare think it is are out of touch with reality. Muahahahaha." How do you like them words in your mouth?

"I think the low threshold is what gets me, because it worries me and makes me think: how will they deal with something more serious?"
Often, dealing with and getting closure on life's relatively minor heartbreaks keeps a person emotionally healthy and gives them greater self-awareness, which will aid them when dealing with "more serious" events.
Moreover, the "seriousness" of an event doesn't dictate the level of pain it causes. Emotional reactions are subjective and individual, while the labeling of an event's seriousness is objective and communal. I experienced something as a kid that from an objective, societal point of view is much more "serious" than something else I had experienced; yet it's the "less serious" one that I found more painful and damaging. Other things that will hurt me, won't hurt you, and vice versa. What matters for emotional health is the subjective experience and dealing with that experience honestly.

And if people want to use astrology as a tool to deal with their experiences, then good for them. There was nothing so unreasonable about the OP wanting an astrological interpretation that giving her one made Geo out of touch with reality. It's not like the OP is Miss Havisham sitting around in a yellowed wedding dress, wondering when her Pisces love will return. If that were the case, yeah, skip astrology and go straight to a mental health expert. But in her case, she was strongly attracted, felt a connection, unsuccessfully and somewhat obsessively pursued a relationship, and now wanted some help in understanding what happened. Geo gave her that astrologically and the other two gave her their non-astrological opinions. Opinions that seemed reasonable to me and also in line with what you said. Since their answers were so similar to yours, in substance if not style, what made them different from you? What made them blissfully ignorant?

IP: Logged

heart cakes
unregistered
posted November 02, 2007 05:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi!

so i'm not on anyone's "side" on this.. i think both sides are valid, and both have some biases to them.. but i just want to respond to the last poster briefly and say that i find it a tiny bit ironic that everyone is kinda jumping down coral's throat for this when the thread about the old dude is fair game for everyone to throw away the respectful tone that seems to be implied as being necessary here, of everyone, while on that other thread everyone's decided this girl and her predicament is fair game for generalizations, and even a few (arguably) mean spirited jokes.

i'm not passing judgement on any of it cuz i find it interesting to think about. just thought i'd point out the irony, though.

seems like coral took the same approach here (pointing out what she believes to be the obvious in a cutting-through-the-crap-way with some dry humour thrown in for effect) as most others did on that other thread. may be just a case of mob mentality? a tad? not sure, just that's what it kinda seems like.

and again, i do think coral was harsh and i was all like WOAH lady when i first read it, but then again, she did have some great points too. and of course the girl is gonna defend herself.

now i feel like a sh!t stirrer. maybe i am.

IP: Logged


This topic is 4 pages long:   1  2  3  4 

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright © 2011

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a