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Topic: Finally....Obamas real birth time
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 699 From: Bay Area, California, USA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted June 18, 2008 01:03 PM
Glaucus said: "As for the Leo remark, Just because he has a Sun in Leo doesn't mean that he can't be selfless. His Sun is modified by not only the square to Neptune but also the conjunction to the North Neptune Node. Those can be indicators of his idealism,inspiration as well as the issues of his father who wasn't around as well as his past confusion about his identity as bi-ethnic Black,White person. 9th house involved can also indicate cultural,ethnic issues. His Sun is trine and contraparallel Eris,and so can indicate a divergent identity and strongly related to diversity."Not only that, but his sun is in his 6th house, the house of service, so that should tell you something. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 699 From: Bay Area, California, USA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted June 18, 2008 01:13 PM
I think this election is bringing out all the darkness in people's psyche, all their prejudices and fears. There has got to be some interesting astrological configuration going on in the US chart. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 2761 From: Sacramento,California,USA Registered: Jul 2006
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posted June 18, 2008 01:16 PM
Exactly My Pisces Moon and Mars in Aquarius are in 6th house. I was in US Navy for 7 years. I also have a certificate from 720 massage therapy certificate course. I enjoy helping others as Astrologer
so I am very service-oriented with my strong 6th house influence. my 6th house ruler Uranus trines Midheaven. Traditional 6th house ruler,Saturn conjuncts Midheaven and squares Moon in 6th. so strong emphasis for service. Obama has Mars in Virgo and that adds to his emphasis on service. ------------------ Stop The Misdiagnosing Of Neurodivergents http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/stop-the-misdiagnosing-of-neurodivergents IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 11376 From: Madeira Beach, Florida Registered: Aug 2001
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posted June 18, 2008 01:29 PM
Oh, I don't think anyone is suggesting Obama was hatched...as opposed to being born in the usual human fashion However, carefully blacking out the birth certificate number before posting it for inspection was a deliberate act. Some would ask why...and I do. IP: Logged |
Purple_Chick_71 Knowflake Posts: 372 From: Upstate NY Registered: Oct 2007
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posted June 18, 2008 02:26 PM
jwhop - why don't you put YOUR un-redacted birth certificate on the internet? See how quickly "you" have a different social security number, new photo ID and 48 maxed out credit cards. I'm guessing it's an attempt to avoid identity theft, while still providing the basic information. EDIT: Just a side note here. This is a birth certificate NOT a hospital record of birth, and there is a difference. All my life I have used the hospital record of my birth as my birth certificate, thinking that it was an official document. Not so, which I learned when I applied for a passport. I had to get the official birth certificate from the County Records, and THAT birth certificate has NO information about the hospital, either of my parents (not even their names), or the time of birth. Different jurisdictions will have different information, so it is not really an indication of its authenticity. Also, my birth certificate has a bar code with the certificate number, probably a way to determine if the document is legitimate...and enough of a reason to block it out if you don't want people making forgeries, imho. ------------------ Sun - Capricorn (10th House) Moon - Gemini (2nd House) Mercury - Sagittarius (9th House) Venus - Aquarius (11th House) Mars - Aries (12th House) ASC - Aries
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 501 From: ca, usa Registered: Jan 2008
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posted June 18, 2008 04:41 PM
supposing it IS real - and why not? weren't leos BORN TO RULE which means that they are good at running things!? the 6th house sun says it all, service, service, service...and yes, there is the possibility that his ego will run away with him - napoleon was also a leo OX like obama - but he is also STILL the most revered frenchman ever (in france). a lot of good stuff came through him before he got carried away with himself...and the 12th house jupiter - guardian angel/ last minute rescue - is very cool too...personally don't like gemini moons (too twofaced and intellectual) but a sharp mind is also a good thing and will make a welcome change... IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 2761 From: Sacramento,California,USA Registered: Jul 2006
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posted June 18, 2008 05:03 PM
His Gemini Moon in 4th fits with his bi-ethnic heritage...being in 2 different worlds so to speak.. Gemini and Sagittarius are signs said to associated with inter-ethnic. Aquarius too. It also fits with having 2 mother figures...his mother and his maternal grandmother. It also fits with his attraction to highly intelligent women like his wife,Michelle. His mother was highly intelligent too. Pluto square his Moon is affinity with Moon in Scorpio.....emotions,feelings connected to intensity,transformation,depth. That modifies the superficial,light nature of Gemini. It also fits with the untimely death of his mother too. ------------------ Stop The Misdiagnosing Of Neurodivergents http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/stop-the-misdiagnosing-of-neurodivergents
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heart cakes Knowflake Posts: 1561 From: canada Registered: Sep 2007
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posted June 18, 2008 05:06 PM
okay TOTALLY being facetious here, buuuut.. i know in the fundy christian view satan comes back as this guy everyone loves and he's here to save us all!! he's a man of the people! and then all of a sudden he turns and his evil becomes apparent.. IP: Logged |
amowls Knowflake Posts: 866 From: Richmond, VA USA Registered: Dec 2007
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posted June 18, 2008 05:09 PM
Oh, I totally think Obama's the antichrist.Still going to vote for him, though. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 13873 From: CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted June 18, 2008 05:49 PM
quote: but a sharp mind is also a good thing and will make a welcome change...
Love it! IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 11376 From: Madeira Beach, Florida Registered: Aug 2001
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posted June 18, 2008 06:17 PM
Hey Purple_Chick_71, my birth certificate number is 39192. The certificate also states the name of the hospital, legal residence of my mother and father, my mother's maiden name, the time of birth and a certification by the attending physician and his signature..as well as the time of birth.Now that you have my birth certificate number, knock yourself out and go try to get credit cards, a mortgage or drivers license from information you could get or find from the birth certificate number. Now, why the deliberate effort to conceal information coming off the Obama campaign? I know Obama, his supporters and the lap dog press would like Obama appointed President by acclamation but it's not going to happen that way and it might not happen at all. Lots of questions are going to be answered before the election.
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Kick It Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Leeds Registered: May 2008
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posted June 18, 2008 07:54 PM
quote: Oh, I totally think Obama's the antichrist.Still going to vote for him, though.
Hmmmm. You must be American!!! Hey why would Obama produce a really fake BC? This is a future American president, you would think that he might do a good job of it with all the resources. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 699 From: Bay Area, California, USA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted June 18, 2008 07:58 PM
Yeah, lots of VERY important questions like why is the certificate number blanked out?? LOL!!!!!!IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 699 From: Bay Area, California, USA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted June 18, 2008 08:17 PM
"Hey why would Obama produce a really fake BC?"Kick it, don't expect a logical answer to that question. Just don't. IP: Logged |
Kick It Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Leeds Registered: May 2008
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posted June 18, 2008 09:14 PM
Yeah, these Americans eh? Or rather these Africans, or Americans? Or aliens or antichrists, whatever he is.IP: Logged |
Purple_Chick_71 Knowflake Posts: 372 From: Upstate NY Registered: Oct 2007
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posted June 18, 2008 10:41 PM
Jwhop - Thanks for your birth certificate number, but I see that you didn't post a copy of the actual certificate, nor did you include all of the other information. SCARED????? :P Btw, I take umbrage, yes UMBRAGE, with Katatonic saying gemini moons are shallow and unemotional. I'M a gemini moon and your comment is making me frown. Great! Now I'm gonna need more botox! EDIT: Sorry...that was "twofaced and intellectual". Well, basically the same thing, right? Btw, will you be my best friend? I would really like the opportunity to betray you. Let me also add: e=mc2 and "supercalifragilisticexpealidotious". P.S. I admit I've been editing this for typos, dammit! Maybe I should just go to bed... IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 11376 From: Madeira Beach, Florida Registered: Aug 2001
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posted June 18, 2008 11:49 PM
Oh yeah Purple_Chick, I scare easily. But that birth certificate number would track to me. It wouldn't give you a social security number or my location but it would give you my name. Point is that someone took the time to black out Obama's birth certificate number. That missing number should track to Barack Obama's name and a cross reference using Barack Obama's name should track to that missing number. I can think of a reason to create possible controversy over that birth certificate. That would be to later...after someone in McCain's campaign challenged it, go ballistic and give out the number proving everything was OK all along. On the other hand, what if some of the information is wrong..like the date of birth. What if Obama was born before August 21, 1959? There are rules for citizenship for those born to a US citizen but outside the United States. Hawaii didn't become a state until August 21, 1959...hey, August 21st, my birthday and birthday of the state of Hawaii. I digress but in the scenario I laid out, those claiming US citizenship for their children born outside the United States must have lived for at least 10 years IN the United States...as an adult. Obama's mother doesn't meet that requirement. So, being a cynical Leo and suspicious Scorpio rising I can see the possibility that Barack Obama is not really a US citizen and would therefore not be eligible to ever be President of the United States BTW, someone questioned McCain's citizenship status. He was born in the Panama Canal Zone but he was vetted and his citizenship confirmed. So...no one is picking on poor little Barack Obama. God, first Bill Clinton and now Barack Obama. They both should be kicked out of the Leo Club. IP: Logged |
Seeing Stars 7.21 Knowflake Posts: 1301 From: New York Registered: Dec 2006
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posted June 19, 2008 12:22 AM
I could see someone lying about their birthtime just so people wouldnt be able to try to tell if he wins or not.. I think I saw hillary's name somewhere.. she is a psycho. I have no problem with a woman president.. just not a scorp woman.. I dont see her winning.. Im sorry its just not going to happen.. Barack is much more pleasant and serene.. Focused but Calm and steady.. much more promising.IP: Logged |
Kick It Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Leeds Registered: May 2008
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posted June 19, 2008 12:44 AM
I will say it anyway, but you don't need astrology to see Obama will win. The strangest things can happen, yet if all goes to plan, he will be next president.IP: Logged |
writesomething Knowflake Posts: 2376 From: meet me in montauk Registered: May 2006
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posted June 19, 2008 01:08 AM
If anyone was going to break the status quo, and revolutionize politics...Obama would be a prime candidate. With his Aquarius rising, and jupiter in aquarius, he's likely to change things. We're so use to presidents having certain astrological aspects, maybe OBAMA WILL CHANGE THAT. Aquarius is about change, shaking things up, being different, and breaking ground where others fear to tread on. His sun also loosely conjs Uranus(although its very wide, I still think its significant) which gives him even more of a Uranus/Aquarius flavor. This is a chart of a person who cares, and wants to help others, I cant say that about most politicans charts.His Uranus conjs his North node, which points to his life path having to do with politics, and changing the world. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 699 From: Bay Area, California, USA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted June 19, 2008 01:12 AM
We have services that can find out who someone effed 50 years ago and how many times and in what position, and yet they can't find out if Obama has been born in a year that's different from the one claimed in the birth certificate?. WOuldn't that be a matter of national concern and would that have been already addressed and SOLVED WITH DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE by the various political machines who didn't want Obama to even win the nomination? Obama travelled to Asia, which means he must have had some kind of passport to do so. Which embassy delivered it? He travelled back to the US, which means again he must have had some kind of a passport to enter the US and stay there all these years, going to school there and all. All these documents and the paperwork related to it should have had his date of birth recorded thereof. That's a big trail of breadcrumbs if you ask me. But, let's not let reason cloud our judgement. Let's hold on to fantasy. EUREKA!! His mom was a psychic, and she foresaw that her son would be running for POTUS while he was still a baby, and she endeavored to falsify all those documents so that noone, noone would find that out some 40 some years later that he was not born in the US. I told y'all. Don't expect answers that make sense. IP: Logged |
AceNeerav Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Mumbai, Maharashtra, India Registered: Apr 2008
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posted June 19, 2008 03:05 AM
quote: God, first Bill Clinton and now Barack Obama. They both should be kicked out of the Leo Club.
most leos should be kicked out of the leo's club! most of them dont deserve to be called LIONS
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jwhop Knowflake Posts: 11376 From: Madeira Beach, Florida Registered: Aug 2001
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posted June 26, 2008 10:03 AM
Faked certificate suggests that Obama may not be "natural born" US citizen By Reuven Koret June 24, 2008 It is now a certainty that the "birth certificate" claimed by the Barack Obama campaign as authentic is a photoshopped fake. http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm AceNeerav, I feel your pain. Perhaps you should choose your enemies more carefully.
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 3274 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted June 26, 2008 11:00 AM
LOL jwhop..one only learns to chose one's enemies more carefully by getting butt****** first and yeah, l can believe the fake citizenship thing - that certificate is definitely a fake!!!! IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 699 From: Bay Area, California, USA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted June 26, 2008 01:45 PM
Nationalreview.online Jim Geraghty Reporting. http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTIzMDE2OTJiOTkwNmE3MTQwOWZiODYyZTBi MzdhMmI= More than a few readers have asked me what I think of this article from a publication called the Israel Insider, particularly a section which suggests a Hawaiian state official has doubts about the birth certificate posted on Daily Kos and Obama?s StopTheSmears site:I spoke to Ms. Okubo late Wednesday afternoon, and she said she had seen the version of Obama?s certificate of live birth posted on the sites. While her office cannot verify the information on a form without the permission of the certificate holder (Obama), she said "the form is exactly the same" and it has "all the components of a birth certificate" record issued by the state. In other words, she sees no reason to think the version posted on Obama's web site and Daily Kos is not genuine. The ?embossed seal? in question is, she said, probably on the back of the document provided to Daily Kos, but not visible (as in another certificate posted on Israel Insider for contrast). She thinks the difference in visibility can be attributed to the pressure used when applying the seal. IP: Logged |