posted June 17, 2008 09:20 PM         

This chart has circulated all the astro sites and sadly is a fake.

this BC has:

posted June 18, 2008 01:00 AM         

She seems a Leo type too...look at all that hair
He met Michelle at work. Sun ruling 7th, placed in the 6th of work.

posted June 18, 2008 02:14 AM         

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Why do you like those, AG?

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posted June 18, 2008 04:31 AM         

What happened to all the signatures too!

Writesomething, i'm sorry, it is a fake but i won't argue with you anymore as l can tell you are convinced so,... i'll just leave this thread.

What idiot would put AFRICAN down for race in 1960? lol
It's pretty obvious it would have been stated as Negro.

posted June 18, 2008 04:59 AM         

This is not personal writesomething - but do you understand why he took off the number? I mean why make a mockery out of it from the beginning!!

posted June 18, 2008 05:12 AM         

Almost every U.S. president has had Pluto or Saturn or both in either the 1st house, 9th house, 10th house or 11th house. Obama has none of these. With Neptune in the 9th house, it makes me wonder about his foreign policy experience. Will it be muddled, confused, deceptive, or compassionate? Perhaps it suggests that he'll know what to do instinctively.

With Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in his 12 house, will most of his politics and governing occur in secret? Or does that 12th house suggest the large institution which is the government?

I'm nervous about his Pluto and Saturn placements. But then, who knows, it might be a refreshing change, but looking at the transits and Solar Arcs for this country over the next 3 years, I'm not sure what's going to happen, we're in for some turbulence in this country. Hold on to your seat no matter who becomes president.

With Pluto in his 7th house I'm thinking that his open enemies will be very powerful. With Mars in the 7th I'm thinking they'll be extremely aggressive with the details.

Geocosmic Valentine

posted June 18, 2008 05:17 AM         

his chart looks more stronger for presidency, who really know how everything is gonna end up.

posted June 18, 2008 09:23 AM         

As for the Leo remark, Just because he has a Sun in Leo doesn't mean that he can't be selfless. His Sun is modified by not only the square to Neptune but also the conjunction to the North Neptune Node. Those can be indicators of his idealism,inspiration as well as the issues of his father who wasn't around as well as his past confusion about his identity as bi-ethnic Black,White person. 9th house involved can also indicate cultural,ethnic issues. His Sun is trine and contraparallel Eris,and so can indicate a divergent identity and strongly related to diversity.

He has Neptune in 9th, but its dispositor(also 9th house ruler),Pluto sextiles it, and that might be good for foreign policy.

also..if you use traditional rulership,9th house ruler Mars is in Virgo trines Saturn-Jupiter in Capricorn. That can be good for being organized,practical,grounded in regards to foreign policy.

posted June 18, 2008 09:36 AM         

and then there's T. Neptune
God of Smoke and Mirrors

Jwhop

posted June 18, 2008 12:15 PM         

She seems to have a lot of political upside. She's a 6 year
governor,and so she has political executive experience. She was
regarded as one of the most popular governors in the country in 2006.
She's a moderate Democrat and has worked well with Republicans. She
even convinced Kansas Republicans to switch parties in 2006. She
erased a $1.1 billion budget deficit in her first year as governor
without raising taxes. Most of all,she is not at all polarizing which
is something that Hillary Clinton has been viewed as being.

She is a native of Ohio. Her father was a Governor of Ohio,and so even
her father has political executive experience. Her husband is a
federal magistrate judge.

Some say that her downside is no foreign policy experience,but Obama
could just have highly experienced people in cabinet positions like
Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense. Therefore,I don't see how
that would be a problem.

I think that she would not only make a good vice president, but would
make a good president. I believe that she's capable of becoming the
first female President of the United States. I would vote for her.
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=b2280f10-7bd0-478d-9f18-ae5e5d184b66 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius http://www.governor.ks.gov/about/bio.htm

Her Moon is in the same sign as Obama's Sun - Leo,and that can
indicate that they can find common ground with each other because they
have basic similarities which can include
passion,self-expressiveness,confidence,warmth,generosity...but if not
handled properly, egotistical,arrogance,wanting to take center stage
too much. Her Mercury is in the same sign as Obama's Moon -
Gemini,and so there is more similarities like
intellectual,curious,inquisitive,versatile,into variety....but if not
handled properly, flighty,fickle,scattered.

Her Saturn-Pluto conjunction to Obama's Sun seems to point that they
could have a shared significant destiny. Her Pluto is only 6 minutes
conjunct his Sun! His Saturn trines her Sun. Therefore they have a
Sun-Saturn double whammy,and so they can ground each other. Her Sun
in Taurus forms a grand trine with his Mars in Virgo trine Saturn in
Capricorn, and that can indicate that together they have a strong
connection that indicates the ability to be
organized,practical,grounded,and run things together which is perfect
for a President and Vice President. Their Venuses conjunct in
Cancer,and they do like each other. That can be a nurturing and caring
influence. Her Saturn conjunct her Descendant indicates that she can
be grounding to him and be a rock for him at times. Her Jupiter 16
minutes trine his North Node seems like she can help him with his
karmic path.

My only concerns are her Uranus square his Mars which can indicate
sudden irritations at times. His Uranus squares her Sun,and so he
could be erratic to her at times, but his Uranus sextiles her Uranus
and trine her Jupiter which indicate that they share progressive views
in common.

Their composite chart has Sun-Venus-Mercury-Moon-North Node in Cancer
trine Saturn in Scorpio! Mars in Virgo trine Jupiter in Capricorn
Wow....this seems like a great partnership.

I hope he picks her. She has a lot of political upside,and she would
be a great asset with her ability to work across party lines,her
executive experience,and her family and political connections to Ohio.

If Hillary's supporters are angry about another woman being picked, ah
well.....we can't always get what we want. No matter what the outcome
is, there will be a lot of people that will be displeased and who will
complain. You see it with the Democratic nomination and you will see
it with the Presidential Election.

Raymond

posted June 18, 2008 12:43 PM         

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They blacked out his birth certificate number because he's really an ALIEN SENT TO DESTROY AMERICA.

Please, people.

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