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darkdreamer
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posted December 09, 2008 01:08 PM
 
Jane,I agree with all that you said.  Even though I thought it was interesting, that in the composites I researched I didn`t find that Vertex-DSC-conjunction. Not even once.
I`ll keep an eye on this one.  But I agree the Vertex definitely tells something about significant turning points in life. And on DSC it would have to do with relationships. This can lead to a marriage, definitely, but could as well free you FROM a marriage (in progressions or transits). It only means that you will face whatever relationships mean to you.
Looking at the fmc`s here I see that the Node is not ALWAYS in close aspect to ASC or MC (even though often), but I think in all cases the theory about angular placements of angular rulers holds true.
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Diandra23
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posted December 09, 2008 01:47 PM
HI all I´m back after a long weekend! this is our fmc with asteroids - I know..cant help it...razz (stick out tongue)  Looks like..nothing conjunct the ASC Jane  Uranus is on the DSC and it should - it was sudden and it was unpredictable,the way we got togther,so fast and no one would imagine to ~have a serious bond when we met online. Uranus can also mean unpredictability in the relationship itself...but as we are long distance..dont know if it also has do with it! NN in the 7H makes me smile along with the Union cj Valentine cj IC Moon in the 4th and trine Venus which also trines AC says much of what we felt and still feel interesting that Moon is solsctic conj the IC IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted December 09, 2008 01:52 PM
Diandra,why should anything conjunct the ASC? But here we have it again ruler of 1st and 10th house in 10th house, an angular house, the house of purpose and public appearance.
This surely is not meant to be a secret relationship. IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted December 09, 2008 02:21 PM
Jane - yes, vertex is definitely a big player!I also noticed in ALL synastries of people married for a long time that Juno is aspecting Juno in either conjunct/trine/square/opposition/sextile and within 5 degrees. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted December 09, 2008 02:33 PM
Lara,sorry, that I have to disagree yet again, but I couldn`t find the same thing, even though I agree that Juno is important.
But I haven`t found the Juno-Juno-aspect in ALL synastries.
I have found Juno to be in aspect to other personal planets though. IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted December 09, 2008 02:35 PM
in long term marriages?
ok... well they are in all the ones l looked at.
Where there none in any of them?IP: Logged |
Diandra23
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posted December 09, 2008 02:53 PM
DDCause it is always positive to have sth cj the asc? but then again... you found sth which i missed hihi and therefore it plays a big part on the chart itself hihi Lara for us to make assumptions we must do a full study with many charts - i remember from my Math Classes that we must do a lot of calculations to get the hipotheses right hihihi it takes a lot of work and time. That´s why only DD makes it - she is the one who knows it best - and the only one who have the patience,persistence enough to pursue it isnt it DD ?  Lara you can try to look at the charts of people you know,famous couples etc and then calculate the % in which your hipotheses was right. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted December 09, 2008 02:55 PM
Antonio - Melanie: no
Friends of mine (together for 10 years, married for 4): no
Paul Mc CArtney - linda: no
my parents (married for 35 years): no
Paul Newman - Joanne Woodward: no
Johnny Cash - June Carter: yes (trine)
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darkdreamer
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posted December 09, 2008 02:57 PM
Juno usually has strong aspects to other personal planets or ASC though.IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
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posted December 09, 2008 03:00 PM
Thank you for the compliment, Diandra.  ACtually my research is only a mini one and wouldn`t be enough to really PROVE a hypothesis, but the more charts fulfill the hypothesis, the more likely its truth becomes.
Of course lookinga t 6 charts is definitely not enough.
But I can say for sure this aspect does not appear in EVERY chart (thus we do not need and should not discourage people, who don`t share that aspect; you can live together for quite a while without it, and without VErtex on DSC inm Composite as my parents prove for example or a lot of celebritiy couples. Of course it`s always nice to have a Juno-Juno-aspect or a Vertex-DSC-aspect, never would deny that). IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted December 09, 2008 03:01 PM
Interesting DD, thanks for that.IP: Logged |
jane
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posted December 09, 2008 03:04 PM
Diandra -
That's a lovely chart. Who needs an Asc conjunction when you have that Venus-Asc trine? (That NN on the Aries point isn't too shabby either!)I'm kicking myself now for not originally saying "cnj's to the AC-DC axis" b/c that would've been more in line with what I've seen overall. It's just in my own case that it's always specifically the AC. (Oh and while you're here, I wanted to offer you a very late thank you for sharing that Gibran poem on my Asc thread a while back. I had thought I was the last to respond in that thread, and only recently went back to it and saw your two posts. That poem was perfect, and I appreciated you sharing your info too. ) IP: Logged |
jane
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posted December 09, 2008 03:05 PM
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posted December 09, 2008 03:07 PM
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posted December 09, 2008 03:09 PM
ok, jane, I'll try posting it again..
I'm really curious to what you'll find here, I loved this man dearly..
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Diandra23
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posted December 09, 2008 03:14 PM
So it doents necessarily has to have a specific conection or placement in them all...I think the chart itself will stand its importance in diferent ways , concerning the two unique individuals. i looked at the fmc and natal: 
Notice the pattern: - 1ºM.Juno is wide cj his asc; 1ºM.Union was cj his VX;1ºM.Osiris cj his Karma. They all place importance on relationships and committment versus ideal husband along with Fate and Karma His DSC falls in the 5H of romance. MINE -1ºM.Osiris cj my Juno;1ºM.eros cj my Moon;1ºM.Sun cj my NN;1ºm.sATURN AND MARS cj my Valentine: they all indicate a coming of a man ( sun cj nn) who would "Be" my ideal man and at the same time my committed lover ( osiris cj juno),who would merge with me as a woman ( eros cj Moon). IP: Logged |
Diandra23
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posted December 09, 2008 03:19 PM
Jane I love Gibran so i am always pleased to share his wisdom with those who yet dont know his wonderful Gift to the World. I just wished some more Souls like him would be here today. DD, Yes, you are right.We must look into our own charts and deduce our own Truths isnt it?IM sure your parents share a beautiful relationship that is based on more than a particular placement or conection IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted December 09, 2008 03:21 PM
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Lara - I'm curious what else you've noticed, since I seem to also have whatever you mention in my own relationship chart.
hehe Well Jane, apart from vertex and juno l have noticed NN on angles, conjunct/trine within 2 degrees. I have also weirdly enough found that in long-term relationships there are more sun/moon square than sun/moon trines or conjuncts! Any of those fit? LILITH is another one... lilith conjuncting or opposing a personal planet or angle exactly. IP: Logged |
jane
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posted December 09, 2008 03:29 PM
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posted December 09, 2008 03:31 PM
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Lara
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posted December 09, 2008 03:40 PM
hehe how cool!
well at least my theories work on you Jane lol
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october_child
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posted December 09, 2008 04:08 PM
thank you, jane, u were right on the point
i had one other thing to ask you.. whether our fd chart reflects the importance our relationship would have in our lives.. like.. if it was meant to be something light (flirty, as you put it), or if it was to turn into something deeper and more meaningful. i'm asking you because we were on and off for quite some time, and it always felt intense like hell.. or well.. heaven
so basically, how does our chart say it was suppose to play out between us?
merci!
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darkdreamer
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posted December 09, 2008 04:43 PM
I think a chart can only tell us what will likely happen, but is no guarantee.However, I think you often can see clearly what impact a meeting made on both person if you compare the first meeting chart with the natal charts. In my example:
The ASC of one meeting`s chart was exactly conjunct my NN, and the guy`s Mercury.
For me it was an important step on my path, for him it was a nice, flirtative, but rather fleeting talk I guess. IP: Logged |
CrabbyFish
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posted December 09, 2008 08:18 PM
This my natal n progressed chart of the day we met ( I think its special)
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_25gw_11_donna_gorsuch_2008528_he.3798.18540.gif&res=100&va=&cid=5hkfilejioQgk-u1194119728 And here is HIS NAtal and Progressed chart of the day we met.
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_25gw_05_s_murphy_2008528_he.4663.6970.gif&res=100&va=&cid=5hkfilejioQgk-u1194119728 IP: Logged |
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posted December 10, 2008 12:36 PM
Hi everyone!
I was noticing a strong connection between the Mc and the direction the relationships took.
For example:
Writesomething;
in one chart you were friends with older guy but was secretly attracted to him. (Notice ruler of Mc is mercury in 11th= friendship. venus=love saturn=restriction are in leo= romantic feelings in the 12th house from the Mc. 12th= secrets.)
Your other chart you described as fated, notice scorpio on the MC; its ruler pluto is in the 11th opposite saturn in the 5th.
11th=friends 5th=romances and the saturn opposition suggests some frustration or restriction.Alanabelle86;
Your Mc was cancer, but also has mars=sexual attraction in leo=romance. Ruler of cancer is moon in 2nd=a sexual house. Urania;
Described hers as having missed a chance. Notice the leo=romance on the Mc while saturn=missed opportunity,disappointment is in 10th Nyah;
Also described as a missed oportunity. The ruler of the Mc is mercury in the 12th from the 10th.And noticed all those unexpressed feelings in the 12th from the 10th. Jane;
A serious friendship. Leo is on the Mc with the sun found in the 11=friendship. So I think that the Mc/10th house can point to the dircetion/purpose of the relationship shown at first meeting! That's my thought anyway.
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