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sunshine_lion
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posted December 10, 2008 12:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting theory goodgrl, are you talking about composite or first meeting charts?

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posted December 10, 2008 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just noticed that there are 3 pages to this thread. I only saw the first page when I posted my repy! Oh well.

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posted December 10, 2008 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting Goodgirl, so aries MC with mars in 5th house means... fun and love? Children?

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posted December 10, 2008 01:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, and it makes sense to me. If the MC signifies the purpose in a natal chart, it would also give insights about the purpose of a meeting.


I have three first meeting charts here:

1. MC in Libra; Venus in Taurus in 6th house conjunct Sun, square Neptune in 2nd and square Saturn on the cusp of 9th house


2. MC in Leo with Sun in Pisces in 5th house, no aspects


3. MC in Aries conjunct Part of Fortune and Moon (in Pisces); Mars in Scorpio in 5th house , widely conjunct Jupiter (6°), trine ASC, trine Moon and NN.

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posted December 10, 2008 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So if
MC is Aries
Mars in 5th
Conjunct sun
Sun is AC ruler

What does that mean pls?

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posted December 10, 2008 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In equal system
MC is Taurus
Venus conjunct DC and trine moon

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posted December 10, 2008 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara: I would say it was a romantic involvement or if not that then one that is centered on having fun. Especially if mars is conjuncting the sun and the sun is in the 5th too, this reinforces the other.

Sunshine_lion: I was looking at the first meeting charts.

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posted December 10, 2008 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks GoodGirl

It is a romantic 1st meeting and it's tomorrow!!!! hehe
I will make sure l have lots and lots of fun

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posted December 10, 2008 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
darkdreamer:

1. Mc libra=parntership (romantic or otherwise),venus in 6th = house of service or work. So perhaps love, or perhaps a work partner (also taurus is connected to money)

2.Leo on Mc with sun in Pisces in the 5th= romantic, fun (or involved with kids)

3.Mc Aries with mars in 5th= again perhaps romance but with moon conjunct Mc maybe a family connection?

It is easier when I can see the chart so I can pick what I think is the predominant influence on the Mc.
But also they had stated the content of their relationship and from there it's easier to find the connection in the chart. I was just noticing the trend of the Mc in echoing their statements about their relationsips.
So with yours I was working blind and backwards,LOL.

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posted December 10, 2008 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
darkdreamer:

I was wondering if the unaspected sun in chart 2 would give the relationship no where to go.

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posted December 10, 2008 03:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good girl,

thank you for your effort.


Actually all three were meetings with singers I really like; only fleeting ones of course, the meetings, not the singers.


"1. Mc libra=parntership (romantic or otherwise),venus in 6th = house of service or work. So perhaps love, or perhaps a work partner (also taurus is connected to money)"
Well, we met in his work environment (off stage), and as he is working as an artist, LIbra seems pretty fitting.
Of course I also spent some money when I bought the ticket.


"2.Leo on Mc with sun in Pisces in the 5th= romantic, fun (or involved with kids)"
Funny enough, there were kids involved. I was impressed how nice he was towards some kids who asked him for an autograph, I could see in their faces that he made them very happy. And I was just amazed at what a warm, natural and really nice person he was at that evening.
There was also a lot of energy flowing around. (Leo?)

"3.Mc Aries with mars in 5th= again perhaps romance but with moon conjunct Mc maybe a family connection?"
This is not even a real meeting chart, more like kind of an eye contact chart, but yes, I was completely blown away by the energy he spread and how familiar he felt to me. He kept locking eyes with me from stage. I guess I must have been a good audience. LOL

"So with yours I was working blind and backwards,LOL."
You did a great job!
In the last case it may not have been a romance, but it was in an entertainment-context, which is also a theme of the 5th house.

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posted December 10, 2008 03:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good girl,

" was wondering if the unaspected sun in chart 2 would give the relationship no where to go."
Definitely agree on this one.

It was a weird encounter, and the weirdest thing was, that when I was walking away, I turned back once more (because I couldn`t believe what had just happened; felt like a train had run me over. lol), and the same moment, he also turned around (he had been surrounded by some more children and teenage girls,a nd had his back towards me); it was strange. Well, and then I really walked away.

HOwever, we seem to "meet" each other again and again. Sometimes because I want to see him on a concert, but we`ve also bumped into each other coincidentally. And when me that happened (last year) he was looking at me the same way he did 6 years ago, when that first meeting took place. I am sure he doesn`T remember me, but he had that questioning expression again, when he looked at me. (Actually I wouldn`t have noticed him last year, if I hadn`t felt him staring at me. I guess he was wondering where he had seen me before, or maybe just wondering why on earth I was reading a book before a concert started. lol)

There is never real contact though, true to the unaspected Sun in Pisces.

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posted December 10, 2008 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
good girl, you wrote on page 3:

"Nyah; Also described as a missed oportunity. The ruler of the Mc is mercury in the 12th from the 10th.And noticed all those unexpressed feelings in the 12th from the 10th."

Needs a little correction I didn't miss the opportunity, quite the opposite as I think I wrote hehe! We are still in contact, even though a large distance makes it difficult. You are right about unexpressed feelings though, we both seem to hide our emotions to the extreme, so it's confusing. Also, isn't Venus the ruler of MC in the chart?

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Ascendant: Gemini
Sun: Pisces
Moon: Capricorn
Mercury: Pisces
Venus: Capricorn
Mars: Aquarius

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posted December 10, 2008 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone know what it means when there's a full moon on a 1st meeting chart please?

I believe there is a full moon on friday morning lol

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posted December 10, 2008 04:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, there is, and it is one chaotic full moon as it involves a Grand Cross in the mutable signs. Maybe it just means that the time for a change has come?

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Diandra23
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posted December 10, 2008 04:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!

GoodGirl

what would you say of ours?

MC in Gem,with Merc in the 10H cj Psyche?

Focused in comunication?

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posted December 10, 2008 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh god, don't lol

I just noticed a venus/DNA double whammy in the 1st meeting chart synastry with my guy and a sun/AC and sun/NN along with that vertex/AC double whammy lol

I can feel this one in my bones and it's so exciting... l just know this is it, not cos of the charts but because of how i'm feeling about him. eek!

Thanks DD


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posted December 10, 2008 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Nyah, I was doing it from memory and 'missed opportunity ' was what had stuck in my head for some reason. And yeah venus is the Mc ruler. (Next time I'll make notes, although it makes it a lot easier to fit the interpretation when I can just put the planets where I want them!LOL!)

Diandra23,
Just so you know, I mentioned earlier I was finding the patterns in the chart and related to the Mc after reading how the people defined their relationships.And I could see the whole chart, picking out what I felt (or in Nyah case--apparently making it up! LOL!) were the most obvious indicators.
Okay having said all that abdicating any responsibility if I'm wrong.....
With mercury =communication is prominent somehow, and I'm would say 10th = career/work relationship. Or perhaps responsibility is a factor in the relationship (being saturn's natural house).
Maybe aspects to mercury could give a clue.

P.S. I only use the planets in astrology, so I'm unfamiliar with psyche.

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posted December 11, 2008 06:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Good Girl

i forgot to say that Sun is cj the MC in the 10H too

Sun is trine neptune and opose Pluto.

Mercury is opose Moon(4H),sextile Venus(9H) and ASC and trine jupiter(2H) and uranus(6H)

I think that sun there also means that the purpose of the relationship is also about developing the "relationship´s personality"?

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posted December 11, 2008 08:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Urania;
Described hers as having missed a chance. Notice the leo=romance on the Mc while saturn=missed opportunity,disappointment is in 10th

Couldn't Saturn mean a karmic relationship? or longevity? lol I know I know. The fact that Neptune is in exact opposition of Saturn also says something about how this thing evolved. I wish I at least knew when he was born. Our 1st meeting chart has a lot of conjunctions with my own chart, and it makes sense that I'm still hang up on him. If I only knew how he felt about me at least. Is there any way to see this on the first meeting chart you think?

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posted December 11, 2008 10:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
goodgrl - so our MC is in 10th house, in gemini. Merc is located in 10th house meeting chart. along with the sun and venus.

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posted December 11, 2008 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 11, 2008 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diandra23:
Yeah sun is linked to personality. But also what house does it rule- where is leo? If gemini is on the 10th, is leo the ruler of the 12th? Then 12 house issues color influence the relationship.
Also is mercury (which you said was in the 10th) in gemini?
If leo is on the 12th, and mercury in gemini, (sun cj Mc--in gemini?--and from which side the 9th or 10th?) If sun in gemini cj mc from 9th == then the duplicity of gemini pops out for me if it is combined to the house of secrets (9th being 12th from Mc, leo on the regular 12)

Get back to me on the sign of sun and mercury, the I'll incorporate the aspects.
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posted December 11, 2008 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Urania:
On a first meeting chart, I would say yes, you can find out how you each felt depending on the encounter.
For example, who initiated the meeting? If he, the he is represented by the 1st house and you the 7th. If you then your the 1st and he's the 7th. And from there you (in theory) could tell how he felt.
(We can test this theory however against how accurately your feelings are portrayed in the chart.)
Now if there is a 3rd party involved in introducing you two- that makes it harder because that person would be the 1st and the two of you together represented by the 7th.
Then the male/female planets (sun,mars/moon,venus) are all you have to go on and that's trickier if you are a masculine(aggressive)female and he is a feminine (passive) male. Then maybe tarot chards would be a better medium to figure this out, LOL!!

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