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Topic: The truth: Can a fire sun ever really be with a water sun sign?
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MoonDuchess88 Knowflake Posts: 692 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted December 29, 2005 11:42 AM
Well I've been in that rut all my life. Although my first best friend was really down to earth. Her moon was in capricorn sitting right on my asc. That would explain why we could always depend on eachother. We both came from very similiar backgrounds with similar upbringings. She was what you call a good friend. IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 420 From: Kent Registered: Nov 2003
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posted January 05, 2006 01:51 PM
I am always attracted to cancer signs rather than scorps, I find perhaps a little too intense. What do people think of pisces and Sag pairing?IP: Logged |
Scorpionic Web Knowflake Posts: 135 From: Pennsylvania Registered: Dec 2005
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posted January 05, 2006 04:26 PM
Yes, Arkuar, you have it exactly right about the sibling rivalry feelings between Scorpio and Sagittarius. Unfortunately what I think this creates are a bunch of happy Sagittarians who get turned on by the energy of the sparks and unhappy Scorpios who long for more introspection and understanding, forced to live constantly on the edge of their seat around their Sag, knowing that the next comment the Scorpio makes will be cheapened into a proverbial philosophical issue, with the Scorpio needing to defend themselves against such trivial categorization. IP: Logged |
marsconjunctmercury Knowflake Posts: 292 From: United Kindom Registered: Dec 2005
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posted January 05, 2006 04:59 PM
I can't meet enough Scorpio females. It's as simple as that. They're definate, passionate, and loyal. Sure i get on with Aries instantly, and Leos of course, but Leos are too hectic and Aries have no sincerity on the whole. Scorpios are my top. Must admit i really like Sagittarius girls but hardly ever meet them. They seem rare indeed.------------------ 4th December 1974 18:00GMT Isle of Wight UK IP: Logged |
Lauren Knowflake Posts: 766 From: Registered: Aug 2005
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posted January 05, 2006 10:23 PM
Arkuar, quote: But Aries/Pisces have a big ego. They think they know everything and they think they are perfect.
I know a 29 Pisces guy..so Pisces/Aries, -big ego- is amazingly accurate for him.. though he also has other Aries in his chart.
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Lauren Knowflake Posts: 766 From: Registered: Aug 2005
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posted January 05, 2006 10:50 PM
quote: Unfortunately what I think this creates are a bunch of happy Sagittarians who get turned on by the energy of the sparks and unhappy Scorpios who long for more introspection and understanding, forced to live constantly on the edge of their seat around their Sag, knowing that the next comment the Scorpio makes will be cheapened into a proverbial philosophical issue, with the Scorpio needing to defend themselves against such trivial categorization.
Scorpionic Web, that's not a very nice generalisation. It depends.. I'm sure there are Sags out there like BR for instance with Scorpio moons.. and Scorpios like Arkuar with a LOT of air.. That makes a massive difference.Scorpio, the sign, has great depth, but not every Scorpion is always going to be deep.. It would be a mistake, in my view..to think people will always be the best of their sun sign, when there is so much more to people.. Sag's aren't always going to be monkeys dangling of rooftops either. Sag is hillarious..Sag is blunt.. but that's the sign.. Not every Sag person is going to be blunt. Actually a Sag person with a Pisces asc and water moon could be painfully shy. It would, likewise be a mistake to think people will always be the worst of their sun sign traits… when there are so many other things in someone’s chart.. and through “free will”.. a dozen different ways these things can pan out.. depending solely on the person and the way they choose to be. I knew a Sag/Scorpio couple.. Sag girl, Scorpio guy..where he was extremely abusive- physically- and she ended up in the hospital numerous times before she finally got rid of him.. In very blk and white terms, there are good and bad people everywhere and everything in between.. And there are good and bad (and everything in between) people born on all days of the year, every year. I’m sure there are Sag/Scorpio couples out there who are very happy. I’m sure there are Sag/Scorpio couples where the Scorpion is unhappy.. I’m sure there are couples where the Sag is unhappy and I’m sure there are couples where they are both unhappy. If anyone is unhappy, then split up.. it’s simple.. If you don’t want to split, then you obviously still see traits in the person that outweigh the bad. Noone is forced to live as anything.. You said “scorpio […] forced to live on the edge of their seat around the Sag”.. lol did the Sag tie them up to a bed post and made them stay in the relationship Does your moon square Sag by any chance.. or have you had a bad experience with a Sag whose moon squared your own? These kinds of bad memories, where people get hurt and generalise based on it..come out of squares I've noticed. IP: Logged |
Scorpionic Web Knowflake Posts: 135 From: Pennsylvania Registered: Dec 2005
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posted January 06, 2006 04:00 AM
I can only offer my own understanding of how these two signs interact, I'm not saying Sagittarius and Scorpio can't work, but I can't really understand how they could. And largely, they won't work. I've dated two Sag's, and currently dating a third. When I make a statement regarding Sagittarius women, its only personal experience. And thats all I am trying to relate here- simply my own understanding. Of course every application is different, but I'm a believer that one's Sun sign will usually, by far, describe that person. And as a true-blooded Scorpio, I just can't see how I can mesh with these girls who prove themselves to be true Sagittarians. Which isn't a bad thing at all. There is someone for everyone out there. But likely not a Scorpio. I'm a Scorpio Sun, Libra Moon and Leo Asc. The Sagittarius I am currently dating has a Gemini Moon and Pisces Ascendent. All Mutable luminaries. And yes, that Pisces Asc does make her very shy... at first, and only at first. From my observations, I'm pretty sure she has psychic abilities. Its really cool. And its only fitting with a Sag sun (opposite Gemini) and a Gemini Moon that she would have a twin sister, let alone identical twin. I've only seen pictures and never met her twin. Shes a remarkable woman, but she, like the others, just can't make the connection I'm looking for. I have no "bad" memories with Sagittarius, just many uncomfortable ones. I've never been hurt by a Sag. While I've been spat on by women of every Earth sign, I have never been at the mercy of a Sagittariette. IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 420 From: Kent Registered: Nov 2003
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posted January 07, 2006 04:16 PM
why do we not hear about sag and cancer couples? I love cancers - they soothe me....IP: Logged |
funkyaquarianpixie Knowflake Posts: 284 From: Registered: Aug 2005
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posted January 08, 2006 05:54 AM
muy dad is a sag happily married to my step mum who is a Cancer!She tells my dad off when hes being insensitive! Keeps him in line very gently. i dont know the chart stats for either of them... My Dad was a bit of a violent a- hole in his youth but he got better with age... Young members of each sign still have lessons to learn.. they are an Autumn couple and they work better than he and my mum did. for all those of us still in our spring and summer... hell we have time to evolve and find lasting love. IP: Logged |
Planet_Soul Knowflake Posts: 807 From: The Universe Registered: May 2005
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posted January 08, 2006 06:20 AM
My Sag friend is going through the aftershocks of breaking away with a negative Scorpio man. She moved out of his house with their three daugthers more than a year ago. However, it appears he still sees her as "his". She has made it clear she wants nothing from him and had a restraining order on him. He hurt her very much in many ways, and she would very much like him to move on with this life and leave her alone. The whole ordeal is draining for her as she doesn't want to continue the drama, but he won't stop. She had peace while the restraining order was in place, but now he is back to the stalking and intimidation.IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 420 From: Kent Registered: Nov 2003
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posted January 09, 2006 07:12 PM
Why would a happy go lucky sag be with an intense scorpio? this dynamic interests me...Ive fallen for a scorpio once and I was lucky to get out without being too burned. IP: Logged |
Planet_Soul Knowflake Posts: 807 From: The Universe Registered: May 2005
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posted January 09, 2006 08:04 PM
In my friend's case, it was a case of a big oopsie. They messed around casually, the bc failed and she ended up pregnant by him. He denied the baby was his all the way until a paternity test proved otherwise. So they decided to move in together for the babe's sake and everything continued going dowhill. The irony is this lived together for five years having the biggest dislike towards each other but wanting to "stick it out". I am also a Sag and with the exception of a middle school romance, have never been involved with a Scorp. There was a Scorp DJ who liked me, but he just didn't do it for me. It seemed he just wanted to get on to the making out or whatever. I don't care to mess around with someone just because I can. At the very least I have to at least like the guy and be attracted to his mind. IP: Logged |
CrabbyKitty Knowflake Posts: 20 From: Upper Left Corner Registered: May 2005
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posted January 10, 2006 05:30 PM
My daughter and I were talking about this recently, and I realized that ALL of my friends and my children are Aries, Leos, and Saggies! I was kinda shocked, but there it is. My daughters are Leo and Sag, my bf is Leo, friends evenly divided between all three. I love these people for the way they communicate more than anything. The hard part for me was growing up in a house with two gemini parents and two libra siblings. I was definitely the odd man out and felt it sharply. Interesting topic! cancer/leo/virgo IP: Logged |
arkuar Knowflake Posts: 15 From: Atlanta, GA Registered: Dec 2005
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posted January 31, 2006 12:31 AM
wow, i didn't realize that this thread lasted so long.my most profound relationship as an adult was with a female archer, and we'd argue and fight and make great sparks together. i've not met the likes of her in three years of dating in the wild. when i look back on it, i had a lot of fun with an adventuresome spirit. the page at the end of the link below sums it up nicely. having learned that i'm more strongly influenced by Libra than by Scorpio explains why i've been drawn to the flame like an asbestos moth. Air feeds the Fire, and the Water adds passion and depth. http://www.miltonblack.com.au/compatibility/scorpio/sagittarius.htm ------------------ Sco. Sun Lib: Moon, Venus, Mars, Uranus, Pluto Cap: Ascendant, Jupiter, N. Node Sag: Neptune, Mercury Gem: Saturn IP: Logged |
marsconjunctmercury Knowflake Posts: 292 From: United Kindom Registered: Dec 2005
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posted January 31, 2006 12:20 PM
quote: Sco. Sun Lib: Moon, Venus, Mars, Uranus, Pluto Cap: Ascendant, Jupiter, N. Node Sag: Neptune, Mercury Gem: Saturn
I REALLY like the look of this.
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arkuar Knowflake Posts: 15 From: Atlanta, GA Registered: Dec 2005
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posted January 31, 2006 09:01 PM
[quote]quote: Sco. Sun Lib: Moon, Venus, Mars, Uranus, Pluto Cap: Ascendant, Jupiter, N. Node Sag: Neptune, Mercury Gem: SaturnI REALLY like the look of this. [quote] Thanks for saying so. you're free to adopt the format if you like. i want to include the houses, hopefully it won't look too busy. i see that you like Scorp females; i'm not female, but cheers to you. IP: Logged |
Lissajane Knowflake Posts: 34 From: Auckland, NZ Registered: May 2005
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posted January 31, 2006 09:05 PM
I have a very rocky relationship with a fellow sag - with my cancer & scorp planets, he is always telling me i'm paranoid and hysterical. We should have broken up ages ago, but the physical attraction is amazing.Him Sagittarius – Sun, Mercury Libra - Moon Aquarius - Venus Aries - Mars Me Sagittarius - Sun, Venus Cancer – Moon Scorpio – Mars, Mercury Libra - ascendant
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marsconjunctmercury Knowflake Posts: 292 From: United Kindom Registered: Dec 2005
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posted February 01, 2006 12:13 PM
Yes except if the man is Sagittarius (Ceteris Paribus), and the woman is Pisces (Ceteris Paribus). This is scientifically impossible.------------------ 4th December 1974 18:00GMT Isle of Wight UK IP: Logged |
Yin Knowflake Posts: 1218 From: Registered: May 2004
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posted February 01, 2006 01:13 PM
Hey marsconjunctmercury, you are the first and only Sag guy I know who likes Sag girls/women.I'm mad about Sag guys but it has never been mutual. *sobs* Yin, Sag Sun and Venus
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marsconjunctmercury Knowflake Posts: 292 From: United Kindom Registered: Dec 2005
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posted February 01, 2006 01:16 PM
Yeah i like Sagittarian women. Don't really like Sagittarian men though. Some are funny, but alot of them are twats. (Before Shopp22 says it - yeah like me)------------------ 4th December 1974 18:00GMT Isle of Wight UK IP: Logged |
arkuar Knowflake Posts: 15 From: Atlanta, GA Registered: Dec 2005
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posted February 02, 2006 04:52 PM
i neglected to mention that my mother is a Leo, and her mother and aunt (sibling) are both Sagittarii. Opposites attract, but they seldom complement, and that (complementarity) is what makes relationships work, IMHO. Familial relations may be able to teach one to successfully manage relationships with the diametric elemental signs.
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arkuar Knowflake Posts: 15 From: Atlanta, GA Registered: Dec 2005
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posted February 02, 2006 05:26 PM
Sparkling, you asked about Cancer and Sagitt. couplings, and my Sagitt. friend has apparently found her "soulmate" (whatever that means) in her new beau -- a Cancer. I don't care to know a great deal of detail on their relationship, but suffices it to say that she's happy -- for the nonce <lol>.IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 420 From: Kent Registered: Nov 2003
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posted February 04, 2006 06:06 PM
So, would it be fair to say that most sag couples we hear about are sag/pisces pairings? My cancer friend who i wrote about originally has actually found love with a scorpio woman....so guess the cancer/scorp attraction beats the saggie one!IP: Logged |
sagetree Knowflake Posts: 8 From: Registered: Feb 2006
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posted February 08, 2006 05:38 PM
Saggie here, I never dated a cancer, but my friend is and she doesn't like him to be so clingy. I don't like that either. I don't think I would match with one. I've never atracted one before. I usually get a lot of Libras. LOTS!!!But they never do it for me, only in a friendship kind of way. IP: Logged |
Scorpionic Web Knowflake Posts: 135 From: Pennsylvania Registered: Dec 2005
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posted February 09, 2006 10:54 PM
I would agree that there are a lot of Sag/Pisces relationships out there. Two mutable signs can definitely "form" compatibility. Mutables will match much better than two Cardinals, and two Fixed signs are almost always a disaster. IP: Logged |