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Lara
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posted June 03, 2008 05:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Jugular,

you won't regret it

Sure, he said that my man was my "kindred spirit"... not sure what he means by that and whether he means soul mate or not... that was the only bit that l was left puzzled by.

He said i had huge creative force within me that needed to be expressed and that once l do that, my psychic abilities would increase tenfold. Also, l would move abroad but to relax about it as my need to move was my psychically seeing into my future... which would unfold naturally.

He said l have gone through EGO DEATH and come out the other side and can now express all my energies with multiplicity. I have popped out of my ego and am now more energetically centred.

I have something creative to be fulfilled. I have spiritual work to be done but l am headed in the right direction!!

He said my boyfriend had synchronicity with me and he was a gift for having worked on past karma and lessons, to get to where l am now.

he said l would have a significant female help me with my spiritual work.

ALL VERY COOL!
Just what l needed to hear and he is a great guy.

voila!

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phoenix1111
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posted June 05, 2008 02:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
songbirdhunter-

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Hi - I joined here specifically to reply to this. And because I've never seen anyone else with the same sun, moon, asc.

Welcome to LindaLand, it's nice to have you here! I have not met anyone with the same placements either

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What the chart showed was the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Uranus, and Pluto in the 12th house. Saturn is in the 1st house - conjunct the ascendent. Venus, Mars, and Pluto are also conjunct Asc. The Sun is conjunct Pluto and Uranus, square Jupiter in the third house. The Moon, in the 7th house, is trine Jupiter. Sun and Uranus are sextile Neptune.

All I can say is WOW to that!

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I was not prepared for a casual friendship with a woman half my age to suddenly thrust me into a process that triggered every single relationship issue I've had, from parents to spouses to children. After 30+ years of self work, with particular interest in archetypal psychology, I was not prepared for the enormous amount of material unearthed. "And that's just THIS lifetime," he said wryly.

If you don't mind sharing with me, I would like to know what happened to you after you felt you were thrust into this situation. How long did it take you to work on these issues? What did/have you learned from this experience? I know what you mean when you said you were not prepared for the enormous material unearthed. Brilliantly put IMO I never knew I could FEEL like that.


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She utterly rejects the idea that this could be that type of relationship. Yet neither of us can run - we've both tried. Neither of us can drive the other away - we've both tried. Neither of us can cut it off - we've both tried. Neither of us like drama - and yet together we are like two emo kids cutting themselves with knives. Emotionally - not physically.

This is what hit me the hardest, because I know you understand how I feel and because I understand how you feel. I have problems sometimes in finding the "right words" to explain how I feel. He has done the same thing to me and I to him.
If sharing is too personal, I understand. I have told the full story a couple times here, but I always went back and edited after the other person read it.

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So - it's not just women who see it *wink*.

I should have said that more commonly women see it, that is my mistake. I just don't find many men who are in touch with their emotions they way most women are. It is nice to see a man recognize a soul union and face it the way you did.

I have been here in LindaLand for almost 3 years and the people here are wonderful and compassionate. It is a haven to come to where you feel safe and like you have a support group, because everyone needs one. I tried facing it alone, and it just didn't work! Thank you for your reply!

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seveneieghtorange
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posted June 05, 2008 05:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow what a read!
I was in the same soul shock situation a couple of years back, maybe 5 years ago with my first love, a Scorpio. I thought he was my soulmate which was ridiculous, because we didn't really have a stable relationship but the connection between us was so strong. Reading that story made me reminisce on the times, but unfortunately, the ending didn't really go very well because just like Robert the Runner, my Scorpio very well ran like the wind away from me but he never came back. It was extremely difficult to get him out of my head, it took me years to cope with the pain. He literally disappeared to nowhere, I couldn't find him and at that time when everything was still happening I refused to call him because I felt needy and weak if I did.
I finally realized 2 years ago that it was time to let him go. To this day, I haven't seen him and it's been 5 years. We still live at the same state and not once have we bumped into each other.

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XOXO
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posted June 05, 2008 05:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone,

Very good posts!!!

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oneruledbymars
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posted June 06, 2008 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Phoenix sorry to just be replying to your text but definitely felt more quiet and much stronger during that Scorpio moon, I felt the need to distant myself from everyone more than usual for a couple of days.

Lara- I think you might be learning what I had to learn in love and that is freedom.
I know that this is my soulmate, and I know that he loves me on so man different levels, but our love is triggering tremendous spiritual, mental and emotional growth in us. And fortunately I know whats going on, but he is not interested in a astrology right now so he hasno clue. And he doesnt really run persay because. I to had a reading with Steve Gunn this week. (really awesome by the way!) But I learned alot about soulmate relationships. And my soulmate has only been able to go maybe a week at the most without contacting me when he tries run. Our connection is just that strong. Its kind of funny but I feel bad for his little confused self. At any rate I am learning that love is free and you can not control it nor the universe, it does what it wants to do and all you can do is live in the present and accept that person for who they are right now and love them rather you like them right now or not. And he has to learn that love is stronger than he thinks it is and that he cant just bury his emotions anymore. So be patient Lara and "let go" so to speak. If it is meant to be the universe will make sure it works out.
Until then like me I am sure you have plenty of things to accomplish in this lifetime.

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Lara
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posted June 07, 2008 06:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you oneruledbymars

yes, we have had huge growth in last 6 months too. I was reading an article on twin souls earlier and totally related to this statement:
"The biggest reason twins have to separate after coming together is their individual emotional baggage. Because in the presence of your twin, there can be nothing between you, nothing blocking your closeness. This means that everything comes up for healing that you haven't previously healed. Everything!

When twins reunite, both of them experience an acceleration of their spiritual growth and awakening. They get on the fast track of learning about esoteric wisdom and experiencing other states of consciousness. They usually haven't been together all that often during their series of lives on the planet, and so their backgrounds may be different. "

Luckily my SO is quite spiritual and open to astrology etc.

We are desperate to be together - it's my ex husband who is keeping us apart
It's so frustrating l feel like screaming and sobbing. Outer forces are keeping us from US!

My ex husband won't let me take my kids with me, abroad. I can't afford to go to court over it and it's such a mess.


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oneruledbymars
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posted June 07, 2008 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. We all have our obstacles to overcome dont we? Hang in there Lara, things will get better. Remember we choose this life because we were strong enough to live it!

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phoenix1111
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posted June 07, 2008 12:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oneruledbymars-

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be patient Lara and "let go" so to speak. If it is meant to be the universe will make sure it works out.
Until then like me I am sure you have plenty of things to accomplish in this lifetime


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Lara
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posted June 07, 2008 01:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I TOTALLY agree oneruledbymars... l have always told myself that if l wasn't able to cope the Universe wouldn't throw it at me.

I am on a real low today... feel like just ending the whole thing.

Someone l respect once told me i'd experience a love in this lifetime that would transcend all loves so l am prepared to work for it yet the mountains l must climb seem insurmountable, at times.

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oneruledbymars
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posted June 07, 2008 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara-
Yeah they do. But in the process we become more and more refined, until we have accomplished what we came to learn here in our classroom the Earth. So I am not sure if its my Aries in Sun/Mars or my ascendant in Scorpio, but I am determined to see it through. So hang in there, and be strong if not for you, for him, remember when you feel negative you send negative energy at him and it affects him just as much and so then you have the cycle of sharing negative energy that wears you both down. Been there done that, so I try to stay positive. If I am having a hard time, then I go listen to a song that reminds me of him or of sometime we spent together, and that usually just "melts the ice" away so to speak.. And stabilizes my frame of mind.

Phoenix-
Thanks for the thumbs up!

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Lara
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posted June 07, 2008 06:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes oneruledbymars, we do get more refined. How refined can one get, l ask myself sometimes LOL
Thank you for helping me regain balance.

Relationships are THE lessons in my life. I have in my natal chart

my sun conjunct exact my venus/mars midpoint
my sun/moon midpoint is exact on Aries point (0')
my leo rising is exact on Regulus
uranus is my 7th H ruler

dear me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What did l do in my last life :O

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oneruledbymars
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posted June 07, 2008 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara-
Girl you had me crackin up that with that last message. You do have alot going on in the relationship department girl, yeah just hang in there, its got to get better at some point. Its interesting that Steve told me that my soulmate was abusive during one of our past lives. He said we have not spent many lives together but the ones we did spend together he was not apparently not a very good husband, and being a soldier he died in battle before he could make things right between us. So he is working through all of that karma and I must be very patient with him if I wont this to work in this lifetime. Deep right!
I was like whoa! lol But I just thought that when you said you must have been a mess in your past life.

You feel like such a great person, I am sure there are good things around the corner for you!

Wanna be LL friends? lol


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Lara
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posted June 08, 2008 02:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey oneruledbymars,
Tell me how does one become LL friends? Is there a club or cult or something?

Yeah, i've had it pretty bad with relationships so far... this guy l feel a soul thing with is the first person who feels right and yet i'm messiing that up too

It's a Long-distance relationship and l keep freaking out at the coldness of it all when we are apart.


Why am l so stupid stupid stupid stupid? I know that l shouldn't drive him away so why am l? If l lose him l will have to become a nun - i'll never find a man l resonate with, like l do with him, again

aarrrrrggggghhhh

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Lavlee
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posted June 08, 2008 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavlee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lara
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posted June 08, 2008 09:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so true Lavlee!

Yes, the "he's just not that into you" thing really goes out the window.

I used to not 'get' that concept at all until l met my SO. I used to think that all men were acting the way of "he's just not into you" and that was all there was.

Boy have l had to eat my words - we are all very blessed. Long may it last!

Stay positive

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oneruledbymars
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posted June 09, 2008 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lavlee- that is so true, "hes not that into you". lol

Its like you can no longer view it as a normal relationship, it requires the most extreme amount of freedom, which I guess is very necessary if you are to grow which is ironic because maintaining that amount of space in itself makes you grow! If you detach and look at the whole situation and surrounding circumstances it really is amazing! And you are right Lara, we truly are blessed!

One quick question, what kind of telepathic connection do you guys have with them, mine is pretty profound, on chart and in person.

And how do guys' ascendants and midheavens relate to each other?

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Lavlee
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posted June 09, 2008 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavlee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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oneruledbymars
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posted June 09, 2008 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Lara and also remember that whatever you did even though it may have ticked him off may be ticking him off because its pushing him to grow, and we all know how much we hate growth when we are the center of it, lol trust me, he is not going anywhere. And that goes for you too Lavlee. They are as engrosed as we are. I think we just fortunately happen to be more aware of whats going on. Hey at least we have the understanding of each other, thats better than going through this alone and thinking your crazy! lol

Lavlee- I asked that because no matter whats goes on I feel him. I mean no matter where he is I am aware of his feelings whether they be negative or positive. And when they are really negative I feel like he is sucking the life out of me and I have a tendency to distance myself from people. Later I will find out that he had a really bad day that day, or that he was in one of his Capricorn "stinky" moods. lol
Its all kind of interesting to me since I was not aware of my pyschic abilities before him.

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posted June 09, 2008 03:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hiya Phoenix

I'm not sure what I've learned yet, honestly. Other than that some of my relating patterns go back to material I'd thought I'd dealt with but clearly hadn't.

I guess mostly what I'm learning is to spot the hooks, and to avoid them. Until she's willing to be conscious about what's going on with her - and accept it, more - admit she wants it - it won't go anywhere. Neither will it go anywhere as long as I still respond to the hooks that pull me into my dysfunctional patterns - cause her hooks ALL do that. And god help me, I know my own issues aren't resolved, because I don't want to avoid the hooks.

In fact, it won't go anywhere regardless of what I do. Hard lesson, eh. *sigh*

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Lavlee
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oneruledbymars
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posted June 10, 2008 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lavlee- its is very intense, but since I met him it has been growing steadily everyday, its amazing when I look back at who I was a year ago and who I am now. I am been doing some research on my Scorpio rising and its pretty interesting. Not sure what you mean about he Capricorn Sun, I always looked at that in a bad light. Whats your take on it?

Ok story time!
I have been having these dreams of him and I arguing, constantly sometimes very intensely. And dreams of him standing in my doorway just staring at me while I was sleeping. So I felt and have felt for the last 3 or 4 weeks that something is wrong. Guess what? He has decided that he is going to date someone else, and whats even wierder is that he hasn't told me yet. He usually tells me stuff before he does it. So this is odd for him, I mean I knew he wasn't through with the whole running thing, and I knew that we had something coming up in our charts in June/July. But isnt this a lovely surprise!
Whats funny is that I am surprised that I am handling it this well, again I can see a major change in me, I am so much stronger than I use to be, and so much more secure. I guess I am getting a big dose of humility though huh? Do you know that I have never had anyone I was with break up with me. I have always been the one to break up!
I just realized that today. Again the mountains we are climbing are huge aren't they? One step at a time ladies, but we will get there.

P.S
I found out through one of our mutual kindred spirits, in one of my dreams after we argued, for some reason he was walking so fast that I couldnt keep up with him and I got fustrated and let him walk off, and that particular friend grabbed my hand and we ran off in the woods together! So I knew she knew something and I finally got it out of her. lol She was like your not upset? I was like no, what is that going to accomplish anyway, might as well just keep focused on me and brace myself for his inevitable return!

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Lara
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posted June 10, 2008 01:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oneruledbymars,

Yes l agree
I need to completely chill out now.

I have a few times ****** him off though by freaking out due to being so far away from him. He said to me last night:

"every time you freak out you take a piece away, you mess me up a bit and l lose interest.. I get it back but l have to go away to do it... then you freak that l go away. It's great otherwise it's just you keep making me put on the brakes"

he said he wasn't sure if he wanted to continue and yet l know in his heart he doesn't want to end it.

it's my fault... i'm not good at long-distance lol

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Lara
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posted June 10, 2008 02:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lavlee,

thanks for your words. I won't beat myself up over it anymore... l do need to get to grips with this long-distance crap though as i'm doing a great job of killing off our feelings lol

I know we are soulies though so i'm not giving up on 'us'.
I trust he won't either

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posted June 11, 2008 01:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lavlee, I only read a few lines into your last post and I just KNEW you were talking about an Aqua guy (it was then confirmed by your previous post)...

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