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phoenix1111
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posted May 07, 2008 07:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just thought this was a very interesting read and it may help someone understand if they are going through a simular situation like I have.



SOUL SHOCK

An excerpt from "When Two Souls Connect" by Steve Gunn
eBook available from http://topukpsychic.com/wtsc - paperback from most online bookstores


'The human heart feels things the eyes cannot see, and knows what the mind cannot understand.' -Robert Vallett

If you’ve met someone who’s changed you forever

If you love someone so much you realize you just weren’t alive before them

If you’ve met someone who’s awakened you to the unbelievable beauty of existence

If you’ve met someone who is more you than even you are

If you miss someone so much you can’t even conceive of existing without them

If you've lost someone and it feels like your soul left with them then read on…


Typical of many cases I deal with is the story of Fiona and Robert.


I first met Fiona when she booked a telephone reading and I realized she was suffering a great deal of pain and confusion from the recent breakup of her relationship with Robert. I recommended she seek healing and, a week later, she arrived at my door.

I wish I had a cent for every tear that has been shed on that end of my sofa -- it’s a wonder it isn’t afloat by now. Seeing people in complete despair is a common occurrence for me but it never gets any easier watching someone fall apart, not least because I’ve been there. Some days, you just wonder what the human race is coming to when people can hurt others in the way this girl was hurting. However, she was here now and I was going to help her.

Her total devastation and confusion was apparent and, as I read both her energies and Robert’s, I realized this was a very strong metaphysical ( soul mate ) connection, hence the level of suffering she was enduring. She told me her story, described what seemed an ideal relationship – until, in the midst of it, Robert had turned tail and run without warning. To add to her grief and despair, within a week he had hooked up with someone else and told her he wasn’t coming back.

As in most of these cases, by tuning into him I knew he was in love with her. Fiona, however, was in no position to believe this, not based on his actions. It was totally clear to me, however, that the bond between them was strong and had grown ever stronger and stronger whilst they were together, to the point that it scared the hell out of Robert.

How do you tell someone that a person they love has hurt them because they love them too much? How do you explain that the ‘runner’ fears the intensity of the connection? I could tell this other woman meant nothing to Robert and was just a shoulder for him to cry on. But, to Fiona, it seemed he had been a cheater and had callously lied about loving her. That’s a very natural assumption when someone you trust totally turns a one eighty and goes off with someone else without warning.

For those of us who are emotionally and spiritually open to love on any level, the idea of someone running from happiness is bizarre and cruel in the extreme. Fiona was struggling to make sense of it and wasn’t winning at all, which added to her immense grief.

As I began her healing and looked at what had happened to her energies, I realized she was suffering from what I call ‘soul shock.’ When someone you have a deep connection with suddenly pulls away, the dis-connect leaves you feeling as if your soul has left your body, like an empty shell. You just can’t get back to reality and you can feel as if you simply exist.

This experience is similar to grieving the death of a loved one and I know many counselors, at least those who accept and understand connections, who will treat this pain in the same way as a bereavement

. What we're talking about here is not a conventional emotional relationship. A soul connection is the most powerful soul level connection with someone and when separations like this occur you just can't "get over it" or "move on" however hard you try. Many people can't eat sleep or work for a long time, a lot end up on medication and in counseling.

Even after more cases than I can remember, it never fails to amaze me how powerful healing is and what a perfect tool it can be for dealing with soul mate connections. I pulled Robert’s energy away from Fiona’s so that she wasn’t being tugged around like a leaf in a gale by his confusion. This process forced out some of her grief.

Unexpressed emotions are debilitating and dangerous, so I opened up her heart chakra and used a technique I call ‘accelerated bereavement.’ This acceleration brings out the despair and pain in a burst of crying that’s so deep you know it’s from the soul. But, after twenty minutes or so, this incredible pain eases and the subject calms. That’s exactly what happened with Fiona.

What is unique about soul connections is that we feel our partner’s grief and confusion and they feel ours. This creates a tsunami of pain as the energy flows across our spiritual link and bounces each of us around like two corks on a string. Putting a block in a place eases ‘soul shock’ tremendously, so that’s what I did to allow Fiona a chance to get on her feet again.

As the weeks and months went by, I saw her and treated her on a regular basis. Throughout that time, she grew slowly but progressively stronger, even as she continued to ache badly from the pain of separation from Robert. When you are separated from a soul mate, you miss your partner every minute of the day and most days are nothing more than a torture of aching and needing. The soul mate connection is unlike a conventional relationship for, in these cases, the pain of separation doesn’t lessen. Some days it feels as if your heart will burst out of your chest and fly to your true partner.

Fiona experienced all of this and more, although with readings and healing I was able to reduce the worst of the excesses and keep up her hope that the situation would resolve itself and Robert would come back. At times, she would call in total pain and disbelief and ask how anything could hurt so much and why couldn’t she just get over him? As always, I explained that a connection so strong was something we have little control over and, in time, he would return. While we wait, all we can do is stay strong and accept what has happened. Trying to understand why just adds to the torture.

In time, Robert did contact her. Fiona, however, found it very difficult to talk to him. He frequently contradicted himself and didn’t seem to have a clue what he was doing, how he felt or what he wanted. This, of course, made it much harder for her to be in contact with the man she loved so much, as she still struggled to make sense of why he had run in the first place.

This is a very common albeit totally bizarre and bewildering phase that nearly always occurs in these relationships. While the more aware soul feels the immense sense of pain and loss, the ‘runner,’ who mostly has a ton of issues, is absolutely confused by the power of the connection and will seem to contradict themselves and not know quite what’s going on. It’s common to hear ‘I love you,’ then a week later, ‘I don’t love you,’ and a host of other seemingly weird behaviors.

Understand, however, that this is your soul partner struggling to understand what’s going on within them, as they are also totally overwhelmed by the feelings and confusion that the connection brings.

At this point, I asked Fiona to trust me and to follow some simple rules for communication. She agreed when she realized the present interaction was confusing her even more. I asked Fiona to set out what she wanted from Robert, make it clear to him, then to back away. To insist that, if and when he called, she didn’t want to hear how bad his life was, especially after she had offered everything to make him happy. And that if he could not be there for her, then to put the phone down.

Staying strong in this phase takes an awful lot of guts and faith when your runner seems so close to returning. To push them away unless certain criteria are met is scary when you so fear losing them again. But Fiona did it… And, as in most cases, after a while it worked. It’s said that runners return properly when the pain of separation is greater than the fear of commitment.

And by refusing to negotiate on anything other than coming together properly, Fiona made Robert realize he had to face this once and for all or lose her.

They met, they talked, she called me. Robert had accepted he couldn’t go on as he had and he was prepared to face his fears and give it a go. Many more meetings occurred before Fiona was sure he was ready and knew that he would face his fear of commitment.

When finally they both came together again, and had put the past behind them, Fiona asked Robert to come to me for a reading and consultation. Seeing a runner is a rare opportunity for me, because when most reconciliations occur, my work is done.

Robert arrived and it was apparent he had no idea what to expect. I gave him a psychic reading and saw what was going on within him and how he had struggled to make sense of the past couple of years. What he said was a real eye opener for me, a rare chance to see how the incredible intensity of a soul connection can scare the daylights out of someone seemingly so strong and together.

He started talking about a time before Christmas when he realized just how deeply he felt for Fiona and, although he had always shunned commitment of any sort, he had decided to ask her to marry him. On his way to buy a ring, he talked to a friend about marriage and said he suddenly became very scared and unsure. He never did tell me what the friend said but whatever it was plugged deep into his fears. After that, instead of asking her to marry him, Robert told Fiona it was over and that he had found someone else.

If you’re astounded reading this, so was I when I heard it. His thinking was that he couldn’t go through with it and maybe he wasn’t good enough for her.

What if he wasn’t ready, what if it didn’t work? All the other fear and insecurity-based questions rose up in him. His thinking was if she thought he had someone else, she could move on and not follow him.

When runners run, they really do run. Robert had demonstrated absolute mastery of the runner 180-degree speed turn. It was obvious that this man was unsure about himself - never mind what he could offer in a relationship. He made all his decisions from the head, not the heart. He mistakenly assumed Fiona could ‘get over it.’ It’s one of the most frustrating things when runners make assumptions and don’t give the other partner a chance. That’s just what this one did.

However, now Robert was back and he was talking to me and that meant he wanted to understand what this was about and how he could deal with it. This was a terrific omen for the couple’s future.

The outcome was that Robert did start to deal with his demons. His karmic lesson was to realize that he couldn’t live life by purely mental decisions. He learnt that his heart wouldn’t stay away and that fighting the connection only hurt them both and, ultimately, didn’t work.

I now have an invitation to their wedding on my desk


Fiona and Robert’s case is very typical and, to my mind, reinforces the same message - the heart always wins in the end.




Reiki Master - Devisor of Natural Energy Therapy ( UK 2002 ) - Divisor of (i)Life Energy Mapping - Ordained Minister - Psychic - Courses in Energy & Spiritual Meditation and Psychic Development. Author of "When Two Souls Connect" ( published by Publish America ) and numerous published articles on Metaphysics and the Human experience.


http://www.stevegunn.net/soulshock.html



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posted May 07, 2008 08:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, i've lived through this.....a few times.

Interesting read. Thanks for posting.

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posted May 07, 2008 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting this Phoenix, I am living through this right now as we, type. This is to crazy!

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phoenix1111
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posted May 08, 2008 12:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your welcome to you both :)

oneruledbymars,

You said you are going through this right now..Do you mind sharing or is it personal? How far into this are you?

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posted May 08, 2008 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great article!

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posted May 08, 2008 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmmmm this just helped me with somethings and I am going through this as well. I posted the Heart vs. Head thread..He is the runner..However I have made major head way with this and yes I totally agree and have done just what that therapist said, tell the other person what you want expect and back away..I had never been able to do that in all the time I had known him not verbally. I couldn't bc one out of fear he would run further and two not sure myself what I wanted..

I thought I ws doing it through my actions, but it was just more confusion for him bc he ws not getting what I was trying to say or do..When I needed to just tell him..

I asked God to put things in my path to help me better get a grip, I believe this is part of that..

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posted May 08, 2008 12:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mama Mia- I was hoping that it would help someone

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posted May 08, 2008 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Phoenix, I don't mind sharing, its just such a complicated situation. Literally the relationship seems to have takin on a mind of its own, completely seperate from what I or he wants, its a hott mess! lol And its only been 9 months and it has completely disrupted both of our entire lives! I literally cringe at the thoughts of what its going to be a year from now, much less 5 or 10. I know you are laughing (I am too) but its no fun I can tell you that. At first I thought it was some form of obsession, and I tried to go to counseling, and that was a joke, they tried to put me on Aderol, Xanax and Ambien (and we wonder why so many people are addicted to prescription pills) . Then I decided that I was having a complete mental breakdown, (which I am still not completely convinced has not happened). Then I turned to astrology and that, this, and you guys, :) are
the only reason I have not lost all of "my marbles" ,in this ordeal, I swear. lol
It reminds me of this Latin song I heard the other day:
"Love is so dysfunctional,
It leaves me so emotional.
But Im in way to deep and I can't let,
can't let, I can't let go"
I try my hardest to break free,
but heart is locked and
you got the key,
Im in way to deep and
I can't let go".

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posted May 08, 2008 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See, lol. I just reread what I wrote, I sound insane! ....God help me.... literally, like now would be good.....
lol

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oneruledbymars- NO- You don't sound insane. Like this article says- what you are going through is quite normal of what happens when you meet a soul partner. I wish I had read this 6 years ago, it probably would have helped me understand and not feel crazy.

There have been times when I felt insane- still do at times because I have still can't let it go. I went and spoke with a counselor as well a few months ago and stopped because I got more help with the other situations in my life, he just didn't understand the depth of it all.

After reading this article I felt I had a better understanding of what has been happening, WHY he ran. It just didn't maike sense that someone that loves you would run away..but they do and I guess come around in their own time. I think its easier knowing that it IS possible for them to love you deeply, and move on with bettering yourself than thinking you were lied and betrayed.

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posted May 08, 2008 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah it does make it easier to know that he does love me. But I know that, when I look into his eyes I drown in his love, but I drown in his sadness at the same time. He literally has the most beautiful blue eyes I have ever seen. He is so pitiful, he has lost so much weight, he doesnt look healthy, and he isnt healthy. He told me they sent him home from work the other day because he looked so bad. Mind you he is a model and waits tables during the night, and he got sent home for not looking good?! Our agent says that she cant even work him because he is so tired looking. My heart breaks more for him than me honestly, and whats more I cant help him.
I am not sure what he meant by tell him how I feel though. You see my situation is different because he ran back to his ex, and told me that what he felt for me was just anger that was left over from the fact that his ex had cheated on him. So I said ok, well we will just be friends, and sadly resigned myself to living without him, and then all of sudden he is back, broke up with the ex, and telling me he never should have shut me out of his life, blah, blah, and that he is not trying to start things back up with me but he wants to start dating again. Then bam the crazy ex tries to commit suicide and of course everybody in the exs family and all there mutual friends think it is his fault and so he stops calling me and texting me again. Now its wierd when I am around him, its like he wants me there but doesnt want to love me.
And that kills me more than anything. But yet I cant take it away. He will dance with a stranger in a bar right in front of me, and then freak out and apologize and tell me he doesnt know whats wrong with himself, and that he is so sorry that his life is so messed up. And then he got mad at me that night because I wouldnt sleep in the same bed with him but I just couldnt, I had had all I could take that night. Now that I think about it he sounds insane to, lol.
(just teasin)
Its like wow, what do I say to him... I mean really. Do I pull away from him and just let him go with an ultimatum? That feels to harsh, and I know that will hurt him. Do I stay by his side, and wait patiently? Thats what my heart tells me to do....

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posted May 09, 2008 06:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yup
I'm in this too!!!

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thanks for the Story.

I do love to see that Love always wins in the end.

THis can show that , on the contrary that many would think,SoulMate relationships are much more complicated and difficult than the regular ones..

They awake in us all that we have to work with,deep fears,traumas,uncounscious behaviours...etc...

I hope we all are stong enough to put our hearts above that all and make it win in the end,like in Fiona´s and Roberts History

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oneruledbymars-

I understand

Especially when you said he looks pitiful and that your heart aches more for him because you want to help him, and you know you can't, only he can do that. I know EXACTLY what you mean because that is how I feel as well. It makes you feel helpless.

I think we feel this way because women are more in tune with their feelings and intuition. I think the men DO recognize a soul union as well, but I think it freaks them out, so we want to help them through that and their refusal can cause a lot of hurt and confusion because WE CANT help them, it's true.

So, follow your heart but I think what the couselor told Fiona is the best bet. Easier said than done, but if you tell him what you want and leave it alone, he will have to make a decision to pull it together or fall apart, but it is HIS choice.

This is so hard I know. I am going through this right now...and believe me it's a constant battle. We both have very strong wills and I have been patient and kind and went down that road and I didn't get anywhere. Now I know I have to stop and move on and let things just work themselves out and I know they will some day. It makes time move slower some days.

Diandra-

I agree too that if we could all just put our hearts above it all- we could make it win...sadly, most males have a hard time putting their heart before their mind (like Robert), BUT it is possible!!

"Where there is great love there are always miracles.--Willa Cather

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posted May 16, 2008 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok so its funny Phoenix, yesterday he called me and told me that he was sorry for all the issues that he has caused between us but that he loves me deeply, and he wants me to know that, and he wants us to be together, he just needs time because these emotions are alot for him, almost to much, and wants to take things slowly. (he is a Capricorn!)
So thank the Creator that I choose alot of Pisces to go behind my Aries sun, it must have been entirely for his benefit, lol!
And Diandra you are right, its great to see two hearts rise above there consciousness to embrace the love there higherselves planned from the beginning.
(even if it is my heart I can detach myself from the situation and appreciate it)
But whew! That was rough, and I get a feeling it is just starting!
Let the games begin! lol
You know us Aries, we live for a challenge!

------Hey Lara, I saw you said you were "in this too". What is your situation like if you don't mind sharing, and how are you dealing with it?

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oneruledbymars-


I am so happy for you! My fella is a Capricorn too so I understand what a big deal it is for him to have said that to you!

I hope all of this helps you with your relationship with him and I wish you two the very best!

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posted May 17, 2008 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Phoenix, we will have to see how it goes, lol.
So hey hows this upcoming full moon affecting you, and that Scorpio sun? Mine is my ascendent and I kind of feel a little bit of the "bad ass" part of my personality coming through, lol.
Not good!

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oneruledbymars-

It's funny you said that because I have been feeling a little baddass myself


Finally!

I try to embrace that - especially where I need to have it in dealing with certain people, you know? Why do you feel like it's not good for you?

I don't know why I didn't feel much effect of the Scorpio moon last month,but this one - I am really noticing how I feel much more powerful and in control of my life- and it feels great!

How about you? How are you feeling differently specificly?

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Phoenix said: "I think we feel this way because women are more in tune with their feelings and intuition. I think the men DO recognize a soul union as well, but I think it freaks them out, so we want to help them through that and their refusal can cause a lot of hurt and confusion because WE CANT help them, it's true."

Hi - I joined here specifically to reply to this. And because I've never seen anyone else with the same sun, moon, asc.

It can go the other way, too. In my case, the details might seem fantastical, and in any event would violate the other person's privacy to reveal. However, they inspired me to run a combined chart. At the time, I didn't believe in "soul mates" as empirically true. I still don't, but this certainly has the symptoms. It may as well be "true" if it isn't, in other words.

What the chart showed was the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Uranus, and Pluto in the 12th house. Saturn is in the 1st house - conjunct the ascendent. Venus, Mars, and Pluto are also conjunct Asc. The Sun is conjunct Pluto and Uranus, square Jupiter in the third house. The Moon, in the 7th house, is trine Jupiter. Sun and Uranus are sextile Neptune.

I was not prepared for a casual friendship with a woman half my age to suddenly thrust me into a process that triggered every single relationship issue I've had, from parents to spouses to children. After 30+ years of self work, with particular interest in archetypal psychology, I was not prepared for the enormous amount of material unearthed. "And that's just THIS lifetime," he said wryly.

She utterly rejects the idea that this could be that type of relationship. Yet neither of us can run - we've both tried. Neither of us can drive the other away - we've both tried. Neither of us can cut it off - we've both tried. Neither of us like drama - and yet together we are like two emo kids cutting themselves with knives. Emotionally - not physically. As we both are now, this relationship would be a disaster if it wasn't kept at something of a distance. But the process of change is at work, and we'll have to see where it goes.

So - it's not just women who see it *wink*.

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posted June 01, 2008 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great first post!

Welcome to LindaLand and Soul Unions!

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Hey oneruledbymars

yeah i'm kinda in it too... although it's different for me as we are together. There is no 'other' woman.

I have different issues though with my guy. Been going out for 6 months now. It's a LONG distance relationship. I'm in UK, he's in USA. We love each other totally and when we are together (which is about 5 days every month) it is heaven on earth. It's like we have never been part.... but then l have to leave, which is like being fired from your dream job.

So we go back to msn/email/phone etc and in the beginning it was lots and lots of chatting on cam where he was always so excited to see me. Lots of l love you, l miss you's etc... then suddenly in March/April the cam/love you's/miss you's all stopped :O

No idea why... we had an argument but it can't have stopped because of that!!!! and it's been more pen-pal even since. I miss the lovey doveyness of it all. We have it when together and l know he loves me and is completely loyal to me. He emails me morning, noon and night still.

I guess his emotions got too much for him maybe. I feel depressed if l think about it. If l use my heart i'm ok but my mind depresses me as l remember how it used to be.

This is my first long distant relationship so maybe it's just me lol

aaarrrrgggghhhhh!!!!!!!!

Some days are great... some days are really crap. Today is a crap day!

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I am beginning to think that my love is my twin-flame and not my soul mate.

Does anyone know the difference please?

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Thank you so much for posting this thread! It seems that a fair share of us here are having this problem, including myself. (He's the runner, how typical). lol. It is hard, especially if you've never experienced it before. It's an extremely painful and bewildering experience for both parties. I finally just laid the cards on the table, told him what I wanted and now am ready to walk away. It's so hard but it's the only way to attempt to make any sense whatsoever of the situation. I'm right in the trenches along w/everyone else!

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ok so l had a phone reading with Steve Gunn tonight.

one word: AMAZING!

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Good for you, Lara! I just wrote to him yesterday, and will have a reading two weeks from now hopefully.

So, are you going to share with us? Details, details...

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