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Sapphire8
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posted August 27, 2008 03:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More are: My moon Trine his Pluto
His Moon opposed my Venus
His Moon opposed my Sun
My moon Square his Uranus
My Mars Square his saturn
My Mars opposed his Neptune
His Mars Trine My Ascendant

His Sun Trine My Neptune (same aspect appears as individuals)

His Sun Square my Uranus (same aspect appears as individuals)

His Venus Trine my Neptune

We are both Leos. My ascendant is Scorpio. His is Virgo. He is currently going through his Saturn Return, and he's doing more harm than good for himself. I want him back, but until then I would like to know what I can do to help him find his way again. Or perhaps I do nothing, and just let him come back on his own. I'd like to think that we can all have a happy ending like Fiona & Robert

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posted October 26, 2008 08:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well Im going thru exactly the same thing now with a runner!
its painful and im trying to look into it.....oh dear, but the missing and the tears....

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posted October 26, 2008 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to hear that Honeybee?
Do you want to share the story?

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well I met him in the strangest way...was very upset over the course of a few weeks before, distracted etc...dreaming of this person, who I didnt know.
I was at work (Im a maitre'd) and my boss told me 'oh theres a really important table booked for this guy, hes important, you must look after him etc etc' I just though oh it will be some person, whatever. then this man walked in and I just knew who he was...I knew he was the guy my boss had mentioned (knew he was a scorpio) knew him, dont ask me how, even tho I had never met him in my life before. And the first words we spoke to each other were bizarre (after we had stopped staring at each other) he said to me 'Ive got such a headache' and I in the middle of a crowded restaurant, put my hand on his forehead and he put his over mine and he said 'thats better, you made me feel better' you have to realise we didnt know each other from adam, people were staring but it seemed so natural to touch each other...anyway I turned to my boss after I sat him down and said thats my next husband! after this I thought about him a few times and began to dream about him and EVERY time I dreamt of him, the next day without fail, he would come to the restaurant with friends and gradually we started to talk and it was very strange. after a month or so of this his friend came in (who i know independently) and said to me...you have to know how much this man likes you, he really really likes you.he drags us in here all the time to see you.
of course I went pink and didnt know what to say.....being a leo girl i brushed it off and said 'how could he not??" bless me. anyhow two days later my scorpio 'husband' was back in and we discovered we wear exactly the same watches and we talked for a longtime. my birthday was coming up the following week and we spoke about it...he asked me where I was going to be etc etc. I said not at work! to cut a long story short flowers arrived at my work the day before my b'day. he told me he had been dreaming of me constantly and had seen me standing beside his bed one night. hes not fanciful, hes almost 40 and a shipping lawyer!! again I knew he would send me flowers, i just knew....two weeks later (after slowly flirting and talking on the phone and by email) we went on a first date...then another then another, then another...the passion brewing was hard to control...too intense...and then he went strange, this man I know absolutely in my gut (i hadnt looked at birthcharts etc, only knew he was a scorp) i will marry went distant and in your words, became a runner.....very, very odd.
the dreams have continued.
I am left wondering what on earth to do, hence the questions about our charts. the feelings were mutually intense, the sex unbearably passionate and knowing, the mind thing too much...he was sent to me.
the last time we spoke last week he told me he cannot deal with so much emotion...that he doesnt 'do missing people very well' and other such bizarre phrases. this has never happened before and I am baffled, hurt and yet and yet I know that this will come good. Am I insane??
so any help with the astro side would be v,helpful
Bee

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posted October 27, 2008 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honeybee-
All I can say is hang in there. Its a wake up call from the Universe. I know its hard to understand. But what you just experienced is what I have come to believe and know is "soul shock". Its like a bolt of lightning, which purpose is to wake you up from the imprisonment of your own conscious. Its your official 7 a.m wake up call and its purpose is to to reconnect you to the Divine. The source of life from which you came and which you inevitably will return too. I know it is hard to see right now through the tears and the pain. But use this time to dig deep within yourself. Discover why you are here, and what your ideal for this life is. Trust that there is a method to this madness. I know that you are going through alot right now, but hang in there. He maybe denying everything right now, and talking crazy. But trust me there is a little voice inside his said saying "Its not over". And regardless of what he says or does, there is still unfinished business between you too. You must trust that. So that you can move on and embrace this opportunity that you have right now to go deep inside yourself and initiate your own transformation.
It is only through this soul shock that we experience the power of destiny.
I know your like "destiny"? WTF
Its the fact that somethings are completely undeniable, you know that you cannot deny what you have experienced with him. If you doubt just feel the "pull", the sensation that you feel, the pain you are feeling to experience just a small example of the powers of destiny.
The pain is part of the waking up process. As wierd as it sounds. What you know inside is the clue. Its just as humans we tend to focus on the the missing part, the physical relationship that we feel we no longer have and that cuts us to the bone and the first cut is definitely the deepest. Its a hard lesson for anyone.
But within that pain, within that cut is the answer. If and when you can tune into the connection and the love, and accept that part as a gift thats when it actually doesnt have any pain with it. Think of how special you are to even have met him Honeybee. Understand and accept the divine forces at work right now, don't fight the love or his human aspects that make him do or say this or that and you can begin to find peace with a process that is more complex than you realize.

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posted October 27, 2008 07:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just feel really weird...what can I do?

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posted October 29, 2008 07:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Phoenix. Great story. I also am experiencing a similar situation and it is nice to know what I am feeling in my heart may be true.

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Pumpkin Peace
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Oooh, gosh... all these stories here just move me to the core and give me so much hope and, well, giddiness.
I, too, feel so so strongly and surely that I have found my soul mate (or maybe my Twin Self), but... it's so much stranger... I decided to write about it here to hopefully gain some insight from all of you enlightened people.
About five years ago I watched a movie. I fell head over heels, heart over soul, madly in love and obsessed with a character in that movie! And not even the actor... just the character. I felt like I had been awakened from a kind of death of my soul as I was constantly feeling depressed, unchallenged, stagnant and unsatisfied around that time. It was as though he opened me up in every way and I could see all of my potential and everything I was capable of doing and knowing, and at the same time I felt so humble and submissive to him and I would do anything -- absolutely anything for him and never feel victimized or like a tool. He inspired me and I felt as though he was teaching me. I felt him all around me all the time.. I never felt like he was 'away' from me. I felt like wherever he was in the world, he was always near me. He made me feel perfect peace, calmness, and security (which is like heaven to a Cancerian like me!) I was like.."What the heck is going on here? He's just a character from a book/movie!! How can I possibly be feeling so much for him??"
I have had dreams of him. One dream in particular stood out to me. I was in a room with several other people. We were all sitting in a semi-circle and HE was there, going to each person in turn and making them carry this large, heavy block of ice that was shaped like a diamond cut to fit in a ring or necklace. They had to hold it for awhile, then sort of toss it back up to him. When it came my turn I could barely take the weight, but I was able to toss it back up and so I passed the 'test'. But after that he just stood before me and didn't move on, so I prayed that if he had any feelings for me at all that he would do something. And then he did something that was quite shocking to me.. something sexual in a way, and he said "Midnight is the sex hour". I could never figure out what that meant. I've tried lexigramming it, but I can't be sure...
Later on, I was reading the poem in Love Signs "we've fought a long and bitter war, my twin soul and I". One part of that poem stood out to me: "Nearly crushed by Saturn's icy weight". I knew by then that the character's sun sign (in the book) was Capricorn, but what I did not know then, but found out later, was that at the time Saturn was passing through my sun sign, Cancer, and that is a sort of test, isn't it? So I figured that when the test was over, something shocking would happen, perhaps, but even though Saturn is not in Cancer anymore, I still feel his presence and influence in my life so strongly and it is helping me grow so much. I feel so much more enlightened and strengthened in Love and confidence. So I don't feel that the test is over yet... and maybe it won't be until I meet my twin. But how in the world could I meet a character from a book? Unless he just really reminds me of my twin from a past life...
Anyway, the whole experience was a huge soul shock for me, I would say, but I feel so good about it. Very few uncertainties... and usually only while I'm PMSing.. ha.. I've had the most wonderful senses of euphoria while meditating on him.
I was also curious as to the difference between a Soul Mate, Twin Self, and an Astral Twin. Could someone possibly shed some light onto this? I feel crazy sometimes because it is such a strange phenomenon to me. I mean, I can accept it quite easily, but when I see it from the average person's perspective, I see .. a crazy person. Lol.

I wish all of you Love.. as this love makes me want to give away all the kindness in my heart. I love all of you.

Love Is All

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posted December 05, 2008 09:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wondering....what are those aspects of synastry comparison that indicate Soul Connections of this magnitude?

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posted December 05, 2008 09:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The one posted at the beginning of this thread?

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oneruledbymars
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posted December 05, 2008 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Crabbyfish, I don't think I have seen you on here before. Nice to meet ya.
If there is one thing I have learned about Soulmates, is that the synastry is the very least you should be concerned about. The intensity of the connection will be enough to let you know what synastry will only confirm. Honestly on my recent soul connection, I wasn't even interested in the synastry. I kept prayin and hopin that it was just a coincidence and that he would disappear as fast as he appeared, but he didnt. lol
So I put on the rose colored glasses that I borrowed from Neptune, and tried to pretend he wasn't that important to me, but that didn't work so well either.
The major things in synastry that will alert you though. Are conjunctions (and I think trines, but I guess some would disagree) 1 and 2 degree orbs between personal planets, the ascendants, vertex/anti-vertex and North Node/South Node. Those are the first things that you will notice.

Why have you made a soul connection?

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sandstorm
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posted December 09, 2008 01:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, all! I have read this board for a while now, and have enjoyed so many of the discussions! Apologies in advance for the rudeness in regard to the first post here being a ramble and a query.

Thank you so much for posting this. Though, have only read the first page before jumping the gun and posting this. I really am sorry for being so rude.

I have a very long "soulmate lost" story that there doesn't seem to be a need to bore you all with, but do have a question about aspect configuration in terms of the synastry. Looking through a very limited "knowledge" regarding astrology, there seem to be so many sweet aspects in this synastry, configurations and house overlays, but most interesting to me is a fractured looking yod-y type thing going on. Not sure if it is an actual yod, though. But, it does seem to be a kind of mutual reception sort of thing. ( i am very sorry, but i don't know how to black out the name/dob and place of birth, so it might not be a good idea to post the chart).

In our synastry, my valentine and amor are quincunx his eros.

His valentine and amor are quincunx my psyche.


Now, in the synastry chart, neither of us have our amor and valentine in sextile aspect to complete the yod formations.

Though, both of us have valentine and amor sextile aspecting in our natal charts.

Strange.


Question: In the instance of these two fractured synastry (almost)yods, would our natal valentine-amor sextiles be applied to complete the yods?


Aside from wondering about this aspect (sort of) configuration, our synastric soulmate connectors seem to me to not be very powerful on paper, (or screen! lo) to say nothing of our composite chart. There seem to be very few bang on indicators, indeed. So i can't help but kick myself a bit when paying an inordinate amount of attention to the astrological as opposed to tangible experience that i have had with a person. Though it seems easy to get momentarily caught up in it.


But the person in (this particular) question- He really does seem to have been a soulmate. With that said...soulmate bah! Soul Smashers is more like! Even if the very last thing we would ever intend to do would be to bleed each other's hearts dry. Too often it seems to be the case. Doesn't it feel that way sometimes?

It's so ridiculous. How could it be that a 16 year old boy who was only in my life for a couple of short months way back when i was a 14 year old girl, and again for a couple of weeks a year and a half later, (with only one crushing, heart breakingly painful face to face meeting at that!)...Still have such a way of making my heart stop with a quickly passing but very deep and real sense of inexplainable existential longing? Though, not longing to "be with" him, in a search him out and try to have a relationship kind of way. It's impossible- and even if it were a possibility, i wouldn't ever want to go back there if the opportunity presented itself. Surely, i believe that the feeling is entirely mutual.

If common sense were applied here, one would believe that i had never actually known that man, nor did he know me. In such a short time frame of contact, when we were just children in the midst of love awakening, how could we have?

But in a completely logic defying way, i feel as though i have known him all of my lives. And felt that way from the moment that we first caught each other's eye. (having a very hard time trying to articulate this, sorry). But, it really feels like homesickness when thinking about this person, and what he meant at the time. I suppose still does in a way...it's insane. really. I'd be absolutely mortified if he ever knew that i thought of him at all, let alone that on the very rare occasion when i still feel the devastating fall-out that the cosmic impact his very presence in my life has had.

That is, i would be mortified. But, i doubt he even remembers who the heck i am after all these years. Because i also doubt very much that the impact or feeling of connectedness was entirely mutual.

Sorry for this very long rambly post....thanks in advance for reading it!

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posted December 09, 2008 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sandstorm, I just quickly wanted to comment on the feeling of "homesickness" you mentioned.. wow, that is so spot on! I have that feeling about a person I've only met two times in my life, and we don't even know each other but I just really love to be around him - we don't even talk. It's weird. The first time I saw him I was actually thinking "if I would kiss him it would feel like coming home.." - strange way of thinking, for me anyway.. I'm sure I've met him in previous lives...

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oneruledbymars
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posted December 09, 2008 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Sandstorm!
Welcome to LL. Looks like you came here following the very same path that I did, that of Soulmates.
Painful path right?. lol
That means you must be a strong soul.

I too am a beginner in Astrology, so in many aspects me telling you this is like the blind leading the blind,... lol but perhaps I can help you.
For starters I would look at your personal planets (IE: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Venus), and see how they relate first (aspects, house overlays). This should occupy you for hours, as there is much to be learned about your relationship, and your soul connections to each other.
Then you can consider how these personal planets relate to each others Ascendants/Descendants, Vertex/Anti-Vertex, MC/IC, North Node/South Node.

By then you will get a clear picture of what is going on and how it relates to your connection.
The rest should be added on to that foundation.

And sweetheart its perfectly fine to be in love with a man you haven't seen in months, or even years if that were the case because you ARE in love with him. And its perfectly ok for you to feel like you come "home" when you are around him, because you DO. And there is nothing wrong with knowing that you have lived past lives with him , because you HAVE. the reason why you felt that from the moment you caught his eye is because there is a Soul connection between you and him. Synastry need not tell you that, because you know it at the very depth of your Soul. How powerful the connection is remains to be seen, that is where Synastry can guide and shine some insight on to your emotions. Knowledge is power.
You are not insane. And you can rest a sure that your beau is feeling it too. But you must understand this.
That love is a one way street. When you love it is like a gift, the most precious you can give. And you give of that gift freely, as you recieve it. You cannot make choices for your Soulmate, you can only live in the moment with that one and understand that everyone has free will. And that means everyone has choices.. Just know that whatever the Divine takes away on a physical level, he gives three fold on the spiritual one when the lesson is learned. And so congratulations my lady because you are the next contestant on "Learn a Lesson". lol, I know its not a laughing matter, but my Sag moon, gives me a dose of humor on any topic. But look at the tool you have gained.

Astrology really is a most exquisite gift from the Divine, it speaks to the Soul like know other knowledge does, because it is from the very Soul that the knowledge came, It is sort of like the snake eating its tail.... I think it is called the circle of Ouroboros. The Ouroboros is an ancient Egyptian symbol of the Universe in motion as it regenerates itself. It penetrates to the very heart of matter.

Look at how your planets fall into his houses, and how your connection influences his energy and you will see that he too loves you but again he has free will, and his choice is not to show.
So what do you do then?
Well you do what you are doing now, you use this situation to learn about yourself and your energy and how you connect with others. This brings you back to the Divine within you, isnt funny everything moves in a circle.
and circle means harmony. Who doesn't want that?


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posted December 09, 2008 10:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you miss someone so much you can’t even conceive of existing without them

If you've lost someone and it feels like your soul left with them then read on…



I'm not sure whether that's the sign of finding a soul mate or a sign of co-dependency(?)

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posted December 09, 2008 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess it does LTT.
But those words speak to me.
Maybe its my planetary placements.

But when I first felt those two sentences I thought I was going crazy, but those particular two are emotions that come from fear, its the ego telling you those things. So no they are not true, and they are not a healthy manifestation of emotions and should you choose to act off of them, the actions could produce unfavorable circumstances.
But failure to acknowledge there existence gives that fear power. When you do however finally transcend the situation and see if from a different dimension, you understand what is going on, and no longer see things from that egotistic point of view.
And the first step of transcendence is acknowledgement..
you do feel in that moment like life is over, lol as retarded as it sounds....

But the truth of the matter is you will exist without them and your Soul is no where close to leaving. lol
Your ego is though, as soon as you ignore it! lol


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posted December 09, 2008 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An interesting thought, LTT.

But another way of looking at it, I feel we are all a bit co-dependent when we have found THAT love...

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posted December 09, 2008 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance"
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posted December 17, 2008 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTtIYN1d8C0&feature=related

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posted December 17, 2008 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read this entire thread the other day and I would like to know if any of you are actually physically involved with these people now or if the situation has faded away. Mars, the guy you are talking about now is a different guy, right? Do you still feel the same about the guy on this thread? If not, what changed it?

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posted December 17, 2008 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavlee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 18, 2008 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lavlee, I'm feel like I'm being intrusive here so if there is anything you don't feel right about answering, I understand! I'm just trying to figure all of this out from a down to earth perspective because I feel like I have been floating around in the mental realm a little much. How long were you together before he started flaking out? Did you live together at first? I thought one thing, then the other while reading your stuff. Do you have a lot of Pluto connections? How long has this been going on total? How often have you been with him physically (like in the same room) since? And about what age are you two, again, if you don't mind me asking!!!!!

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posted December 18, 2008 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Mystic, hey Lav!
Missed you 2, I feel like I have been off in some ancient library for days just reading, reading, readng, I am learning all about Ancient Egypt, and sacred science, its all quite mind boggling! lol So much Esoteric knowledge to be remembered!
I welcome a chance to talk about cutie boy No.1, so thanks Mystic, it has been awhile since I spoke of him.
lol
Mystic, yes there was one before the current one, and he is still coming back I know I can feel it.
He is just finding himself right now, and is so shrouded in darkness I just hope he awakens in time to see what is going on around him, he is a man of great strength, his Natal Chart is verrrrrryyyy interesting. And we indeed have had a few lives together I know that, some happy but most bittersweet. I sigh when I say that, because thats what I feel for him bittersweetness. Always love though, for he is a good man, just very, very unconscious. And very afraid to live, he has some very deep Karma, but his Saturn return is coming up, I think he turns 27 on the 22 of this month, so I am sure is going through some life changing events (His Sun, Venus, and Mars are in Capricorn). I wish I could be there for him, but I learned something from that man, and I am so thankful that I had the strength to walk away instead of getting caught up the Karma. I learned that, that which is not provided in the material realm is return 3 fold in the spiritual one.
Our telepathic connection is huge, there is huge amount of energy conducted between him and I. And I know he will be back. But I think I am in
a different place now, so its not the same.
I no longer feel like I "need a relationship" or "need a soulmate". I feel very complete. I have never been this happy with myself or my life.
The new cutie boy (cutie boy No. 2) is perfect for me right now, in this moment, and so I accept him for what and who he is and what he does for my energy levels.
I require so much space in a relationship, (Aries Sun, Sag Moon) my Venus in Pisces gives me such a great love for everyone that honestly sometimes I forget to show that special person that they are a little more special. And I notice that I have that connection with the new guy. He is ok if I tell him I can't see him tonight because I really am interested in reading this book, or finishing this chart for someone and I need all my concentration to absorb the information and get the blend. He actually finds something else to do, and still answers my phone call with no drudgery when I call to tell him good night at 1 am because time got away from me. This is the first relationship I have ever learned to how establish healthy boundaries in. So whether it last or not, I have already amassed a new tool! And it also works because I am beginning to see that sometimes sex clouds things because that base earthy desire is very hard for us to control and affects our ability to make the proper choices that honor Gods in us. Our spiritual side does not need it, only or Earthly side. Or naybe my Mars being in Aries in the 5th house just gave me a lot to handle in that department, maybe even a little to much! lol
So because I am not having sex with him, I am meshing with him slowly in a way that totally respects who we each are in the blend that our energy creates. Its become an oddly very spiritual experience, and I am bonding with him on very spiritual level. He accepts my "otherwordly" thoughts, ideas and mannerisms. And sometimes he reciprocates them with his own.
His Moon being conjunct pluto in Scorpio has got to be working overtime on his Psyche 24/7!
And God does that man ever recharge me, just to be around him is exciting for me, I am not sure why but it is, he makes my soul smile. Its like having the feeling you have for someone right after you have sex, all the time. You know that peaceful harmonious feeling where you are so connected that everything is seems beautiful around you, even the dirt on the floor!
lol
Or is that just old Neptune talking again?

So I hope that gives you an update Mystic.
I love him still, I do, and I always will, I always have , and I am glad that I learned that from him, it was a precious lesson, and he is a precious man.

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posted December 18, 2008 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad to hear you and #2 are growing closer and learning and having a joyous experience. I am in a time of questioning so I won't say much more right now...

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