posted November 25, 2008 06:49 PM         

"Wow. Revelation. Thank you. I had never considered that I would act like the certain house in certain situations. I thought I might act like the PLANET energy and combined the planet energy with the house, but never just considered the house for some reason.

I have Cap on the 1st and Gemini on the 5th.
But Saturn is also in the 5th so it is hard for me to explain, but I look back and see some behavior and remember someone said something about my nervous chatty energy in a romantic situation. I think what you say is true but it is more difficult for me to explain since the energies are so similar and blended for me. My Cap moon and AC are always so hard to differentiate and I have Merc in Virgo so my Mercury ruled mind in the 8th house combined with Mercury ruled 5th house Gemini with Saturn sitting there has me orating on often enough. And Mars in the first in Aqua. I'm weird, bossy, and come off as know-it-all in relationships. So I have basically suppressed a lot of it... you know, to keep the Libra (sun) peace and to please others....

aww crap

now I have to figure out how to bring it all back out and channel it properly.

I was reading Mamma Mia's thread earlier and trying to think of "desires" and I kept thinking I just wanted to Know WHAT was going on with me and what I was supposed to be learning because it is like I am stuck lately and can't get homework or house-cleaning or other chore type things done and I spend WAY too much time online just searching... and for what, I didn't know or couldn't articulate for the thread.

I can feel that this piece of information is a Key. Thank you. Had to look to see who I was thanking. Cappadora. From Hawaii and here since 06... but doesn't post much? Reminds me of Capricorn and Dora the Explorer (I have a daughter hehe). Hi Cappadora Thanks for being the bearer of my message from the Universe. "

I added this here because it also explains why I think music is a communications medium for relationships and teaching... and why I feel this intense feeling right now like something SERIOUSLY BIG IS COMING.

I'm going through this intense learning experience or beginning to...

something is happening in my life. And I feel it like a huge sublime looming pressure.

posted November 25, 2008 08:50 PM         

I was looking at the Progressed Venus thread below and his Gemini sun is progressed to the exact degree of my Cancer Descendant. My progressed moon is conjunct his sun, by 4-5 degrees, so not exact, but close. How quickly does the moon progress?, because for all I know it was exact when we first met.

It's like the Vertex guy. The planets are describing the energy... and this is something big. I think there is still more on this journey. Pluto in Capricorn and my moon and AC in Cap... and The Baron says since I'm a Libra, in the 4th house... home... that there will be complicated living arrangements. I keep wondering if I am going to move during this time... or travel. I said long ago I would only be in a hurry to move "if"... and the "if" seemed unlikely but now the "if"s are manifesting as unusual annoying neighbor events and physical objects that are impossible to ignore. I try to peacefully accept and OM one and then another is piled on... and another. I think it's about time to go and if I don't, PLuto will MAKE SURE I GO. If you know what I mean. So, I have my eye open for the new direction and the open door.

So, anyway, this person might simply be the catalyst to the next step in my journey, like the Vertex guy... but I know the energy is already more important and bigger. It's ... oh yeah.... interesting.

posted November 25, 2008 08:51 PM         

I'm so delighted to hear about your Twinsian friend
I've been going thru a really inarticulate period where my fingers/tongue cannot drag down into words what the brain/heart is thinking/feeling
But I'm so happy to see my two favorite Libra ladies intrigued by fellas -- two Mutable fellas, hmmmmm.....

posted November 28, 2008 04:57 PM         

Chapter 1
He's Just Not That Into You If He's Not Asking You Out

because if he likes you, trust me, he will ask you out
men find it very satisfying to get what they want
if a guy truly likes you, but for personal reasons, needs to take things slow, he will let you know immediately. He won't keep you guessing because he'll want to make sure you don't get frustrated and go away.
don't let him trick you into asking you out
men, for most part, like to pursue women
an excuse is a polite rejection. Men are not afraid of "ruining the friendship."
you are good enough to be asked out.

Chapter 2
He's Just Not That Into You If He's Not Calling You

men know how to use the phone
when you like someone, they just don't slip your mind
you know they mean it when they actually do what they said they were going to do
men are never too busy to get what they want
if he's not calling you, it's because you are not on his mind
if he's choosing not to make a simple effort that would put you at ease and bring harmony to a recurring fight, then he doesn't respect your feelings and needs
you deserve a ******* phone call

Chapter 3
He's Just Not That Into You Is He's Not Dating You

"hanging out" is not dating
a man who's really into you is going to want you all to himself
better than nothing is not good enough for you!
if you don't know where the relationship is going, it's okay to pull over and ask
there's a guy out there who will want to tell everyone he's your boyfriend

Chapter 4
He's Just Not That Into You If He's Not Having Sex With You

when men like you, they want to touch you, always
if a man is not trying to undress you, he's just not that into you
if you're tempted to spend countless nights just cuddling with someone, buy a puppy
there's someone out there that does want to have sex with you, hot stuff

Chapter 5
He's Just Not That Into You If He's Having Sex With Someone Else

there's never going to be a good excuse for cheating
cheating doesn't just "happen". It was planned and executed with the full knowledge that it could end your relationship
cheating is a complete betrayal of trust
100% of guys polled said that they have never accidentally slept with anyone

Chapter 6
He's Just Not That Into You If He Only Wants To See You When He's Drunk

if he likes you, he'll want to see you when his judgment isn't impaired
it doesn't count unless he says it when he's sober
drinking and drug use are not a path to one's innermost feelings
you deserve to be with someone who doesn't have to get loaded to be around you

Chapter 7
He's Just Not That Into You If He Doesn't Want To Marry You

love cures commitment phobia
don't spend your time on and give your heart to any guy who makes you wonder about anything related to his feelings for you
if you don't feel like you're rushing, why are you waiting?
there's a guy out there who wants to marry you

Chapter 8
He's Just Not That Into You If He's Breaking Up With You

"i don't want to go out with you" means just that
always be classy. Never be crazy
a breakup is a definitive action, not a democratic one
breakup sex means you're still broken up
cut him off. Let him miss you

Chapter 9
He's Just Not That Into You If He's Disapppeared On You

sometimes you have to get closure all by yourself
there's nothing worse than hving no answer. No answer is your answer.
don't give him the chance to reject you again
there's no mystery-he's gone and he wasn't good enough for you

Chapter 10
He's Just Not That Into You If He's Married (And Other Insane Variations Of Being Unavailable)

if you're not able to love fully, it's not really love
he's married
unless he's all yours, he's still hers
don't be that girl

Chapter 11
He's Just Not That Into You If He's A Selfish Jerk, A Bully, Or A Really Big Freak

if you really love someone, you want to do things to make that person happy
you are the catch
life is hard enough as it is without choosing someone difficult to share it with

I know that whoever typed this didn't do the best job but I'm too tired to edit it. The two people who bother to read this will probably figure it out...

Here's a guy arguing the "other side" http://www.tbd.com/group/16/discussion/262800/show?startIndex=7

Second poster down, "Mike".

posted November 30, 2008 03:45 PM         

Everything is happening just as it should.

posted November 30, 2008 10:55 PM           

you first!

posted December 01, 2008 10:10 AM         

Well, vis-a-vis your relationship Mel,
it is one situation and you are very quick to think "He did THIS so it means THAT". I don't know without seeing the pair of you together really but try not to swing back and forth wildly in what you think is happening. That "Hey" wavy thing may not have meant a great deal in the great scheme of things. Does any snippet of interaction between two people tell the whole story. I don't know really. I don't know why he's not asking you out, I hope he will, I really hope he will.

posted December 01, 2008 03:12 PM         

Wheels,

""""some woman wades in to the end of it and starts abusing Mike by using 5 long words where 1 short one would do - quite entertaining, stuff like "How does that particular paradigm fit into the quasi-emotional flange-hopper that you have the temerity to embark upon whilst adopting a pseudo-Marxist paradox of the situation vis-a-vis relationships?"""

LOL priceless!
No, I didn't read it all... I started... I can't keep my focus on anything.

posted December 01, 2008 03:13 PM         

(I gave up here and decided to DO SOMETHING instead of just endlessly worrying and kvetching... and I am getting tons of stuff done. I think it is sometimes a matter of waiting for the energy to change... but sometimes it seems like the change will never come and deadlines loom and pass regardless of best intentions.)

but back to the post... hehe (call this a "break") yes, I would say that I am in this "limbo" but I'm not really. I can logically see it all unfolding as it is meant to... the love we are meant to give to people is not something that is given in expectation of receiving love back from them. We do receive... and WOW has this "relationship" as we call it ♥ which it is... everything and every person we interact with we have a "relationship" with and to...
but yes, this relationship has already "given" so much to me. I am thankful to him and to the Universe for bringing me these experiences and great joys and moments of great emotions... and I'll take the bad with the good. I've had worse. ;^)

It's just so hard when you begin to get lost in delusions of media designed "loooove" that is the media version (stealing from Marianne Williamson's ideas next) of "you and me against the world" when it is REALLY supposed to be you and me together to help the world. And if that means I don't get to bunch you up into a ball like a kleenex inside my heart-shaped-box and keep you all to myself (my PRECIOUS!!! hehe) ... well that takes some bravery and some introspection and some real HONESTY with YOURSELF... but ultimately it is the only way to really love someone and really have the right people love you back.
But what do I know? Seriously.

posted December 01, 2008 09:26 PM         

I believe you are, too.

Thank you.

posted December 01, 2008 10:07 PM         

So it could just be "timing". Ok? Trust your heart.

posted December 02, 2008 01:14 AM           

to the advice given too.

posted December 02, 2008 05:55 AM           

Especially in his second post.

posted December 02, 2008 08:29 PM         

The idealistic -vs- the realistic as the Baron says!

That's what has been going on with me.

And probably you too.

posted December 03, 2008 03:09 PM         

visiting my memories

on a snowy, overcast day
in early December.

Glimpses of the past
answering questions of the present
with indications
of the future

things forgotten
out of conscious awareness
rise
and remind
and prompt their lesson again
like watching a good movie or listening to a good song
a second time

and catching the things you missed.

Coming Home
playing in the background
on the soundtrack of my mind

(remember)
remember... my mind whispers

and I do.

I pass the place where...
and that's where they...
and Oh yeah, I remember that experience.
Such a profound growing time
and interesting people...

The heat is warm
the worst memory (from a more recent ghost of Christmas past) rises on the horizon
(to the surface)
i put away the pen.
and

change my route

take a right

choose a new direction

What's on the radio? the nervous, fearful voice inside my mind quickly asks
to change the direction of my mind.
a click
and then REO Speedwagon belting out: "keep on runnin' keep on runnin' "
-guitar solo-

**** (fu..

ok, maybe I am running but why do I have to think about this? it was so painful and
"Classic Hits 97X!"
American Woman starts
I miss a stop sign and then almost hit a parked car.

I confirm to the Universe I am listening
and I get it, yes yes, I participated, I made mistakes...
and on the right is a lit up, glowing, Nativity
though it is only 15 minutes after noon.

There's a stop sign
and I stop this time.
"Bye byyyyye
bye byyyyye"

"It's all about the music... the greatest classic hits..."

but what about the present?...

"I ain't never been with a woman long enough
For my boots to get old
We've been together so long now
They both need resoled

If I ever settle down
You'd be my kind
And it's a good time for me
To head on down the line

Heard it in a love song (3x)
Can't be wrong

I'm the kinda man likes to get away
Like to start dreaming about
Tomorrow, today
Never said that I love you
even though its so
Where's that duffle bag of mine?
It's time to go

Heard it in a love song (3x)
Can't be wrong

I'm gonna be leaving
At the break of dawn
Wish you could come
But I don't need no woman taggin along
I'll sneak out that door
Couldn't stand to see you cry
I'd stay another year if i saw teardrops in your eyes

Heard it in a love song (3x)
Can't be wrong

I never had a damn thing, but what I had
I had to leave it behind
You're the hardest thing
I ever tried to get off of my mind
Always something greener on the other side of that hill
I was born a wrangler and a rounder
and I guess I always will

Heard it in a love song (3x)
Can't be wrong"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPu5d6O9Nw0

posted December 03, 2008 03:21 PM         

The above song reminded me:

Once you get so close to someone... you get so wrapped up and lost in your own fears that you can't see theirs... and then the "loving" is lost and becomes more of a struggle to "get" energy from each other. Pretty much the definition of hell.

posted December 09, 2008 04:10 PM         

Oh, it's called "Something's Coming". I couldn't stand the song when I was younger though I loved the movie. It was my least favorite song but I see it's meaning now. I have thought of it a couple times recently.

Could be!
Who knows?
There's something due any day;
I will know right away,
Soon as it shows.
It may come cannonballing down through the sky,
Gleam in its eye,
Bright as a rose!

Who knows?
It's only just out of reach,
Down the block, on a beach,
Under a tree.
I got a feeling there's a miracle due,
Gonna come true,
Coming to me!

Could it be? Yes, it could.
Something's coming, something good,
If I can wait!
Something's coming, I don't know what it is,
But it is
Gonna be great!

With a click, with a shock,
Phone'll jingle, door'll knock,
Open the latch!
Something's coming, don't know when, but it's soon;
Catch the moon,
One-handed catch!

Around the corner,
Or whistling down the river,
Come on, deliver
To me!
Will it be? Yes, it will.
Maybe just by holding still,
It'll be there!

Come on, something, come on in, don't be shy,
Meet a guy,
Pull up a chair!
The air is humming,
And something great is coming!
Who knows?
It's only just out of reach,
Down the block, on a beach,
Maybe tonight . . .
Maybe tonight . . .
Maybe tonight . . .

And he falls in love that night...
and dies... I think that same night.

I'm feelin' it, SW. It might not be just the quindecile since my Pluto is one of the many upper points/stellium that connect a grand trine with the Gemini Saturn and Aqua moon. I can't sort it all out, I just know the last full moon in Gemini was INTENSE and here it is again. Intensity beyond belief.

I feel like I am watching the destruction of everything I have worked for and I am powerless to do anything about it. I'm sure that has something to do with PLuto's little two-step into Capricorn (my AC and moon) so I'm just standing paralyzed watching it burn.

God help me. Or help me See this as help and not my failing.

posted December 09, 2008 11:03 PM         

~from American Beauty