posted December 28, 2008 12:04 AM         

ME 12/19/61 4:48pm
(US) U.T. 21:48
74w16, 40n30 sid. time 22:43:55

PLANETARY POSITIONSplanet sign degree
Sun Sagittarius 27°46'19 in house 6
Moon Gemini 2°13'39 in house 12
Mercury Sagittarius 29°47'03 end of house 6
Venus Sagittarius 18°33'23 in house 6
Mars Sagittarius 26°22'31 in house 6
Jupiter Aquarius 7°51'05 in house 8
Saturn Capricorn 28°19'56 in house 8
Uranus Virgo 0°27'39 in house 3
Neptune Scorpio 12°38'30 in house 5
Pluto Virgo 10°07'00 in house 4
True Node Leo 19°19'48 in house 3
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)Ascendant Cancer 2°28'11
2nd House Cancer 22°21'30
3rd House Leo 13°29'13
Imum Coeli Virgo 9°24'28
5th House Libra 13°36'01
6th House Scorpio 24°42'20
Descendant Capricorn 2°28'11
8th House Capricorn 22°21'30
9th House Aquarius 13°29'13
Medium Coeli Pisces 9°24'28
11th House Aries 13°36'01
12th House Taurus 24°42'20

HE 08/10/65 7:06 pm
born on 10 Aug 1965 local time 7:06 pm
(US) U.T. 23:06
79w49, 37n49 sid. time 15:03:35

PLANETARY POSITIONSplanet sign degree
Sun Leo 18°04'37 in house 7
Moon Aquarius 2°56'09 in house 1
Mercury Leo 26°37'08 in house 7
Venus Virgo 19°42'38 in house 8
Mars Libra 24°03'43 in house 9
Jupiter Gemini 24°18'20 in house 5
Saturn Pisces 15°44'24 in house 2
Uranus Virgo 13°30'13 in house 8
Neptune Scorpio 17°16'22 end of house 9
Pluto Virgo 15°05'51 in house 8
True Node Gemini 11°40'46 in house 5
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)Ascendant Capricorn 26°41'43
2nd House Pisces 10°22'50
3rd House Aries 19°21'46
Imum Coeli Taurus 18°21'17
5th House Gemini 11°18'29
6th House Cancer 2°34'01
Descendant Cancer 26°41'43
8th House Virgo 10°22'50
9th House Libra 19°21'46
Medium Coeli Scorpio 18°21'17
11th House Sagittarius 11°18'29
12th House Capricorn 2°34'01

Composite Horoscope midpoint method

PLANETARY POSITIONSplanet sign degree
Sun Libra 22°55'28 in house 7
Moon Aries 2°34'54 in house 12
Mercury Libra 28°12'06 in house 7
Venus Scorpio 4°08'00 in house 7
Mars Scorpio 25°13'07 in house 8
Jupiter Aries 16°04'42 in house 1
Saturn Aquarius 22°02'10 in house 11
Uranus Virgo 6°58'56 in house 5
Neptune Scorpio 14°57'26 end of house 7
Pluto Virgo 12°36'25 end of house 5
True Node Cancer 15°30'17 in house 4
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)Ascendant Aries 14°34'57
2nd House Taurus 16°22'10
3rd House Gemini 16°25'29
Imum Coeli Cancer 13°52'53
5th House Leo 12°27'15
6th House Virgo 13°38'11
Descendant Libra 14°34'57
8th House Scorpio 16°22'10
9th House Sagittarius 16°25'29
Medium Coeli Capricorn 13°52'53
11th House Aquarius 12°27'15
12th House Pisces 13°38'11

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The issue is not the porn, it's the deceit. My husband has ruined the basic foundation of our marriage. I can't trust him. I was working toward trusting him again but then caught him in another lie. He promised the last time he was caught, he would never do it again. Never jeopardize our marriage...
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My response

posted December 28, 2008 03:45 AM         

we dont know the exact extent of the issue.. if its an addiction...then it sure is an issue and NOT NORMAL

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asc/sun/moon: Capricon/leo/libra

posted December 28, 2008 02:19 PM         

Some of the current transits for katkins:
Pluto is about to enter your 7th house of marriage/partnerships

posted December 28, 2008 02:28 PM         

Saying he is just an ass because he is to the point where he pathetically resorts to porn for some sense of fulfillment is like saying that about a lonely woman who resorts to chick flicks for same. It's what we do when we are single and alone and that is what is really bothering you. You have lost your connection. It is as if he has left you. Now you have to decide how bad you want the connection back and what you are willing to do to share yourself... and find the connection again if it is worth it.

Deux knows the name of a great book on the differences between the sexes. I can't think of the name right now, but maybe she will see this. I have a copy somewhere so otherwise it will come to me eventually and I'll post it.

Good luck... I know it sux... but things will get better and either your relationship will make it through this and become stronger and more deeply intimate or you will part and have a better, deeper relationship with someone else in the future.

Either way, the important thing is remembering to love. Even if the most loving thing you can do is to let him go because you can't ever feel the love and trust for him again due to how distant and deceitful he has become.

posted December 28, 2008 02:42 PM         

It takes an hour or two to create an account on astro.com and then use photobucket to post the picture of the chart so if you want others to read your chart, you will have to do the work of posting them. It is unlikely that someone will do those two hours of work for you and then also take the time to study and interpret your aspects since you are a first time poster here at LindaLand. But it is nothing personal. You might not even have the two hours to spare to do it yourself. But if you do, you will get many more astrological responses.

I hope you take the time because following that thread above will help you get started and open a lot of doors for you to insights that I promise will be very meaningful to you.

Welcome to LindaLand and to Soul Unions.

posted December 28, 2008 11:08 PM         

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Is porn really breaking your marriage apart? because honestly, I find that sort of ridiclious.

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posted December 28, 2008 11:28 PM         

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If we have this powerful connection and are fated to be together, then why are there forces pulling us apart?

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posted December 29, 2008 05:49 PM         

is porn a sin?

Why is he looking at porn? Is your marriage in trouble sexually?
If not, personally l don't see the problem with porn but hey, l don't know your situation in full.

posted December 29, 2008 09:12 PM         

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If she wants a guy who doesn't lie and/or watch porn (addiction or not, doesn't matter) then she has a right to set her boundaries and go and find someone who is fine with them.

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It sounds like the boundaries have been set…but they haven’t been discussed. It takes both people to be involved in the discussion and each has to be willing to listen and each has to be willing to open themselves up. There are definite individual differences and if we don’t try to understand each other then we will live in a very lonely world, because there will always be something in someone else that doesn’t necessarily sit right with us. Taking Mystics example, if he is really irked that you read romance novels and asks you to stop (fearing that you are looking for some ideal in a relationship that he might not be fulfilling), but you continue reading them in secret, then is it okay if he leaves you because it is intolerable to him, without any discussion as to what is behind it all? The irony is that most men do not want to marry a porn star, whereas most women do want to marry the hero in that romance novel.

This in itself is not irresolvable, unless there are other deep-seeded issues and this has just become the catalyst to a marriage dissolving. Many men do watch porn and that’s why it’s such a lucrative industry, but there are also many couples that watch porn together. Every man and woman has fantasies and it can be a healthy way to discover them as a couple, as long as each treats the other with respect and consideration; it is just another vehicle to being intimate with your partner. A lot of women would probably find this repugnant but I’m not sure why; this is your life partner; the person you have chosen to share your most intimate self. Who else would you discuss these things with?

posted December 29, 2008 10:34 PM         

As a woman, but one who can also put on her "man cap", I can see why finding your husband viewing porn (especially on some of the hardcore sites) can be upsetting. Maybe you feel inadequate, like you cannot compare to these women on screen. Or maybe you feel that he is perverse for enjoying some of these sites. Whatever the reason, in my opinion, it ultimately doesn't matter much. Because the fact is - your husband wants to view it.

I think the only reasonable way to handle this kind of thing is to decide for yourself if you can live with that. Or not. But to expect to confront him and have him stop? Well....

It's like when my husband-to-be caught me smoking outside the building at work. Fury. Outrage. "How could you? You've ruined my image of you." "You have to stop, otherwise I can't be with you." What does everyone think I did?

Answer: hide it better. I couldn't just stop smoking on a dime. So I used gum, perfume, air fresheners, the works. Avoided seeing him sometimes if I knew I couldn't get rid of the smell. It took me another year and a half to get to the point where I could part with my cigarettes, and quite frankly, I myself had wanted to stop for years, which is why I gave in to his demand ultimately.

But what if the husband doesn't think there's anything wrong with his porn habit, but feels compelled to say he won't view it anymore because he loves his wife and doesn't want to lose her? The wife has made him a liar because of the ferocity of her reaction.

posted December 30, 2008 04:35 AM         

People have such easy access to it that you can indulge and over indulge like any bad habit.
My sister who is a reporter recently interviewed a policeman who had been working on a child porn case and then was found guilty of downloading child porn.
His explanation was (and this sounds rational to me) was that in the past he had been repulsed by it, but because of the nature of this case had had to spend long hours viewing evidence.
He then found himself, to his horror, being stimulated by it with the subsequent result.
Now he had 2 children of his own and his wife stood by him because essentially he was a good bloke but...
All I am saying is;
You can have a glass of wine but do you need to drink 2 bottles every day?
Can you smoke a joint without immediately going onto hard stuff?

posted December 30, 2008 04:58 PM         

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The issue is not the porn, it's the deceit. My husband has ruined the basic foundation of our marriage. I can't trust him. I was working toward trusting him again but then caught him in another lie. He promised the last time he was caught, he would never do it again. Never jeopardize our marriage...
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Aside from the fact he has admitted to a porn addiction and refused counseling because he can quit on his own (Sorry that was omitted, I was worked up in a frenzy),
the issue is really about his lying.
Is Pluto entering my 7th house and Saturn squaring my Sagittarius planets bring negative news?

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in case anyone missed it. She edited her first post instead of hitting the "Reply" button at the bottom or top of the page.

I'm glad CoralBird caught it, because I didn't even think to check the first post.

posted December 30, 2008 05:43 PM         

But in the end it's really for you to decide whether or not you have a powerful connection. Maybe you don't anymore - it happens. Maybe you do and its being tested.

I think Jugular's post was right on target - actually, I think there are a lot of great responses on here, so much though and consideration.

I understand the principle of being lied to is maybe what bothers you the most, and that's what it should remain about. However, I also agree with Jugular with it being human nature to lie about something when you don't want to lose the one you love yet can't quite deal with parting with an aspect of your life which feels comfortable.

But in all honesty, I have to say this: There is more going on in this marriage besides lying about pornography. I just feel there is more. Maybe I am wrong. But after 7 YEARS and him being caught 4 TIMES... it's just not adding up for me. There's more going on here. Yes, I understand betrayal very well. But I sense there is either more lying involved or there is something else he's done which has made you not trust him in order to feel justified in leaving him after 7 years of marriage and severing this connection you two had/obviously still have.

posted December 30, 2008 06:16 PM         

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There's more going on here. Yes, I understand betrayal very well. But I sense there is either more lying involved or there is something else he's done which has made you not trust him in order to feel justified in leaving him after 7 years of marriage and severing this connection you two had/obviously still have.

So, are you going to tell us, or what?

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She was asking for astrological indicators, something which can be discussed without turning this into a gossip site and asking her to reveal perhaps more than she wanted to. Maybe you could have a closer look at her transits? I'm sure there's a lot you can comment on and point out without knowing every detail. She mentioned that betrayal/lack of trust is the main point here, and I think that's all you need to know in order to let her know what is going on in her chart.

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Is Pluto entering my 7th house and Saturn squaring my Sagittarius planets bring negative news?

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