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26taurus
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posted January 05, 2009 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
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I just have to defend the underdog here - porn deserves a fair trail and so do all the men who watch it. I wonder more about why people are not ok with it.

I know you are defending porn - again! That's cool! But you dont need to do it to me. Really. Youre pov is not new or uncommon. I'm curious as to why you so strongly feel you have to defend it.

And do you really think you are defending the "underdog" here??? Porn and the men who watch is the underdog these days? Come on. I think not. LOTS of females are okay with and enjoy watching porn with their SO.
Cosmo tells them to.

"wonder about people who are not okay with it"?

Why? Is there something wrong with them because pornography doesnt turn them on? Please enlighten me as to why it should.

And it's not even that I'm not okay with it or have something against it. I just dont find it arousing. Am I supposed to? What do you wonder about?

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26taurus
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posted January 05, 2009 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting that I've known men who feel the same way as I do. Porn doesnt do much for them. They seem to have a different appreciation for women in general. And are the ones that have better things to do when their friends go to the strip club. And no, they are not gay.

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26taurus
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posted January 05, 2009 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Call me old fashioned, but being with a man I'm in love with is enough for me. I don't need the extras or to watch other people do it. Maybe katkins is of this ilk and is part of the reason she feels so hurt.

Apparently her main issue is his lying now. Though there seems to be more to it than simply that.

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MysticMelody
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posted January 05, 2009 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
omg, don't you two start now

*makes the gun to head motion and a decent blast sound considering I am a girl... also includes the kick-back motion


-Girls Gone Wild-

Girl Gone Wild
or just a child
with twisted inspiration

Feminine power
Feminine mystique
from the pages of Cosmopolitan

A literary rag unnaturally birthed
from the bulging womb of
masculine agenda

children manipulated
into becoming
cold,
unfeeling

Corporate slaves and prostitutes

Over-used
and
Underpaid

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 06, 2009 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
You seem pretty passionate about this, T.

Incidentally, 99.99% of all porn gives me the "ick" feeling, too.

There are some amateur videos, of couples filming themselves, that aren't bad.

Not that anyone should feel like they have to defend it.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 06, 2009 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, and I dont think anyone is saying that its cool to like porn, or uncool not to like porn.

I think the issue is with the obsessive-compulsive behaviour of trying to control someone else.

It is one thing to say, "Hey, thanks, but no thanks; not for me."

Its another thing to say, "Stop doing that, or I will stop loving you!"

Do you see what we're saying?

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CoralBird
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posted January 06, 2009 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralBird     Edit/Delete Message
My partner and I have watched soft porn briefly a couple of times and I can say in all honesty that it wasn’t the porn we were interested in, but much more so the discussions that took place between us that drew us closer. Watching it most certainly didn’t cause us to lose respect for each other as a man and a woman and if anything, we gained more insight and respect for each other. We have also watched a couple of documentaries on the industry and we know that it is a very different world we live in. Maybe because we did take the time to discuss it that I find it so insignificant and why it’s a little surprising to me that a 7 year marriage cannot survive something that is of so little consequence in our daily lives. It is all about communication and if we can’t even discuss these things with our intimate partner then I have to wonder how strong that connection is. I imagine there are people out there that are so greatly influenced by it that it would cause them to disrespect any man or woman, but instead of pretending it doesn’t exist or feel threatened by it, a little communication would educate us to each other.

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posted January 06, 2009 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Meh, I just get a bit overheated when I see the whole 'OMG it's so wrong to watch porn because it's degrading to women' thing. You know, it just felt like that was being pummeled into a couple of earlier posts, and I just felt like it was a bit stifling in the way it was presented that love and respect in one side of the equation and HERE WE HAVE EVIL YUCKY PORN.
lol.
So it was a bit disconcerting to me to see that.
I mean, I do not think for a second that EVERYONE has to like porn. I mean, if you hate it, it's cool. If it makes you sick to your stomach, that's fine. And I could even understand.
And Cosmo may tell women to watch porn, but that has nothing to do with what this is about, btw. I'm talking about the whole issue in society of people just looking at it like it's taboo...not out of personal taste, but out of morals. There's a difference. I'm curious to see why people feel so icky about it. I think it's weird that we have intimacy on one side and sexuality on another side.
Porn objectifies women, and that can be really disgusting. But I also think there's more to it than just that.

However, I'm done. You guys seem to think there's something wrong with someone voicing something a bit different on the thread and while it hasn't been overtly stated, there's a slight level of snideness in some of the remarks (i.e. good for you, MVM, etc.)
I consider that icky and it feels inauthentic.

So have at it, either way. I'm outta here.

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26taurus
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posted January 06, 2009 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Hi HSC. I'm not passionate about the subject. I'm tired and a little cranky tonight. I knew exactly who the poster was going to be after me and what she was going to say. I already understood what she had said before, but now had to go back and re-explain and elaborate more when it was really unnecessary because it wasnt to hard to simply see where we were each coming from and leave it at that. The way I was hoping it would be. I dont like repeating myself or people repeating things to me especially when I'm not directly speaking to them.

Something that does get me going a little bit is whole "it's normal" thing. And how some people dont see how they are simply sucked into a lot of BS. (*see Melody's poem above ) I could go into a long winded post as to all the resoning behind why I feel the way I do , but you know how I typically don't enjoy doing that. Especially not tonight. People have their opinions and feelings on the subject. This i know, and i'm not trying to change them or go back and forth with someone who I understand has a different view. I said what I thought and wasnt looking for a debate. Or to be told once again about how someone thinks it's the normal, healthy thing to do. But I guess that's part of posting on a message board. So whatever. I was just annoyed because I didnt want to have to get into it with someone; be addressed directly about something I already read.

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Oh, and I dont think anyone is saying that its cool to like porn, or uncool not to like porn.

I know no one was saying that. I was saying it though. I simply brought that up out of nowhere because it came to mind. It didnt connect to anything anyone said here so far. Just something I've observed and mentioned here.

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It is one thing to say, "Hey, thanks, but no thanks; not for me."

Its another thing to say, "Stop doing that, or I will stop loving you!"

Do you see what we're saying?


No I dont. Come on. Yes, I caught that. I don't think she said she would stop loving him. She said she would leave him. Big difference. She's heartbroken. I don't think she flipped a switch and stopped loving him. He promised her he wouldnt do it again. He agreed to the ultimatum and then made a choice and she found out. Maybe he could have made more of an effort at some point to get some help, or open up the lines of communication or try to reach some sort of better understanding with his wife somehow so he could save his marriage. Why is it all her fault?

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 06, 2009 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
I never said it was all her fault.

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MysticMelody
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posted January 06, 2009 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Virgo Mask, I just want you to know that no matter the current energy today... I always read your posts and think you are incredibly smart. Can't wait to get to know you and I have fabulous taste in people, btw.

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26taurus
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posted January 06, 2009 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
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However, I'm done. You guys seem to think there's something wrong with someone voicing something a bit different on the thread and while it hasn't been overtly stated, there's a slight level of snideness in some of the remarks (i.e. good for you, MVM, etc.)
I consider that icky and it feels inauthentic.

It doesnt need to be overly stated. We all said what we thought. I just dont know why you had to repeat yourself to me the way you did and directly. And I had a feeling you were going to and there you were.

I got the same vibes i'm getting from you here in this thread that I did in another thread MVM. It weirded me out the first time and has weirded me out again. Yes, icky and inauthentic.

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26taurus
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posted January 06, 2009 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/004733.html

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 06, 2009 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ERnT1X9HPw

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MysticMelody
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posted January 06, 2009 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Past history I take it...

What karma is this? The Universe says, hey Mel hasn't enough depression and confusion in her miserable lonely life! Let's destroy her little "job" at LL too so that the complete and utter Plutonian destruction to her Capricorn world WILL BE COMPLETE!!!!!!!!! MWAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAAAAAAA

Both of you?
Soul Unions?
Today?
The same thread?

****


Hear Ye
Hear Ye!

I love 26taurus and Heart--Shaped--Cross MORE than the rest of you and if you make them sad at Soul Unions I will have to take their side even if they are totally wrong or even a little wrong. Doesn't matter. Now take my Mod-ship away and one of the joys in life I have left.

Ok, noW where do you two want the bodies hid?
Do I have to dig the holes too?

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAR WOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDSSS


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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 06, 2009 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Mel, its okay. Calm down.

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MysticMelody
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posted January 06, 2009 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
oh, I'm not too uncalm. just open mouthed and astounded at yet another strange event in my life. another straw, another straw... doesn't the Universe know my back is already broken...

I'm ok, only slightly insane.

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26taurus
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posted January 06, 2009 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Sorrrrrry! I don't want to argue with anyone! Just want to be left alone as usual! To say my piece and be done with it. Left in peace.

I've had a rough day too Mel. Met with a new counselor and had to go through my whole situation and what happened with dad. Not very easy or pleasant and flashbacks or having to remember the scene arent nice either. I'm tired. Why arent I in bed?

And you don't have to take my side even though you love me more! lol Really! If you ever feel the need to slap some sense into me, you are allowed.....but no one else is. hahaha

*have a feeling this is going to be "one of those threads'.
Thread gone wild.
off track

doubt katkins will mind. if she ever comes back.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 06, 2009 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
you're not insane. your just silly. goose.

and we're okay. we're just scrappin. kittens.


speaking of kittens,
another shameless segway:


Kittens, fer Chrissake!

Oh you limpid jealous kittens;
Idle rascals with delicate wrists,
Lost inside of crumpled sweaters;
Head-pokers in hollows,
Necks, and sleeves;
Giant-eyed ambiguities, -
'What do you see?'
Curious creatures;
Adorable mad-geniuses;
Scurriers with purpose;
Mewing fellows and frail combatants;
Cowering monsters, vicious when teased;
Slight presences;
Darting ghosts, the color of smoke;
Brave little gymnasts;
Silly scraping buggers;
Tugging pouncers or pouncing tuggers;
Graceful klutzes;
Trippy wonders, religiously kittens;
Not yet arrogant cats.


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26taurus
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posted January 06, 2009 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for the tunes HSC

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26taurus
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posted January 06, 2009 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Mel, please don't let this thread be the straw!

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 06, 2009 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
We love you, T. Get some sleep.

I'd take my own advice, but I'm retaahhded.

Get some sleep for me.

I'll sleep vicariously thru you.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 06, 2009 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
you're welcome

one of my favorites

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26taurus
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posted January 06, 2009 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
okaaaaaaaaay


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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted January 06, 2009 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
night kiddo

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