posted October 24, 2003 07:32 AM         

my closest friend ever had Sun in Gem. She could talk for days at a time, about anything! Always kept the tv on, on amusic channel. Would lie or just "invent things" for fun. Was very interested in the personal lives of EVERYBODY, and always remembered everything she'd heard, like word for word. She had files in her head about everyone she knew, with facts about every aspect of life. She befriended all the sellspeople and chatted to them everyday. Had a slow manner to move her body, very sensual gestures...

most people thought she was really stupid, but since I was closer to her I say she was just superfficial. VERY! and sorta silly, if you know what I mean. Never took anything seriously. not even our friendship!

she was very jealous and I couldn't do a lot of things without upsetting her. She always tried to get the men I liked (as she trusted my taste!).

Always tried to keep things from me that she thought I wouldn't agree with. Like one-night stands with people I had told her to be trouble.

She asked once to read my diary. At first I took it as joke! SHE WASN'T. I thought about it and since I had decided to learn from her how to be more laid back, I gave it to her. Two or so days later she called me very ****** , telling me we were thru...blah-blah-blah! She called me several times, raging, then invited me over "to talk". On short, she was ****** that "i hadn't written that much about her in my diary". She was in there, but not "that much". I tried telling her that I wrote in there when I was upset, but...she felt betrayed. or something.

our friendship got cold when she met a guy and eventulyy married him. Never told me about it untill afterwards. she left the country and I never heard from her again. we refound eachotherfor a while. It all ended when she said she would call one morning, hadn't by 13:00, and I left home. She called at around 13:30, my mum told her I 'd left, and she got ****** . Never talked to me again!

the end.

my actual work colleague has a gemini asc. some bad karma for me, I guess.

she's just as talkative, superficial, never gets a joke or a hint, can't really do anything for real or be good at, except for talking. She can't keep herself from doing really stupid things when she's not minding her own business. But she's really good getting new clients. But she takes herself seriously as a business woman and that's when she makes mistakes again.

My boss is also gemini SUn.
Also superficial, not good at anything, really, exccept talking. He know just what to say to each in order to get what he wants. Also, he's great at finding others to do things for him, really good others, and do things for next to nothing, too.

Bottom line...geminies have a knack of always finding the easy way and the most fun through life. they are not to be trtusted with anything serious, as they aren't respnsible and they are incapable of any real planning. But they are great fun to be with, real party people, and a real help for a capricorn sun-venus like me, who's sometimes too up-tight and too gloomy.

they really **** me off, but there is some envy there as well...

If there are geminies here, don't throw things at me, pls. I just wrote it as I lived it. And my Sag Merc conj Nep tells of my lack of diplomacy and the fact that my sayings r to be missunderstood...

Not all gem are like that. I guess.

posted October 27, 2003 12:40 PM           

I'm a gemini, and I take offense to your spiel about gems!

"Bottom line...geminies have a knack of always finding the easy way and the most fun through life. they are not to be trtusted with anything serious, as they aren't respnsible and they are incapable of any real planning."

First of all, what is wrong with the "easiest" way through life? Why should I wade through 2 meter deep snow when I can take the cleared and salted road? My husband is a cappy, and that is what irritates me about him the absolute most--just because it takes you LONGER and more EFFORT to get to the same goal, doesn't mean that the way you did it was better and worthier.

Secondly, not to be trusted with anything serious? Pardon me? Incapable of real planning? I'm in a VERY typical Gemini job, I am an event manager. A very good one! And 95% of my work is sitting in front of a computer, doing planning, coordinating, doing a hundred thousand things at once...and not only do I get my job done well, I get it done fast (me taking the easiest way again, shucks!) and am able to carry on at the same time with the other parts of my job, like making proposals, doing the after-event work, sales etc, all at once. What is wrong with that, and why should my boss not be happy with my work? Just because you had a shallow friend who HAPPENED to be a gemini, doesn't mean all geminis should be tarred and feathered. And I'm sure your boss has other qualities, other than just being "good at talking"...otherwise he wouldn't have gotten to be your boss...

Thirdly, geminis are NOT jealous people. I'm the least jealous person that I know (and that with me having a scorpio rising!!) So there was something else in your GF's chart that made her the way she was, but that is not gemini talking. There are too many options in life, too many distractions to get jealous. Maybe that's what you mean by shallow and superficial, and I will give you that, that the bonds that geminis make maybe don't run as deep as you would like. I see that as a self-protection mechanism. Contrary to popular belief, gems are very susceptible to depression, even if they don't show it. Too much emotion is just too scary and we don't know how to deal with it...we feel that we aren't "allowed" to have emotions about things, because they don't "make sense". So if you were my best friend and you betrayed me, I would move on without a tear and find another friend. And you would never know the hole that you ripped in my heart. But just because you can't see it or experience my hurt, doesn't mean it isn't there...we are the silent feelers lol Thank god there's enough other stuff to talk about other than "stupid" emotions!

I really understand the friction between Gems and cappies, but honestly, give us a chance, we aren't all that bad. And since when is having fun a crime?

posted October 28, 2003 01:54 AM           

Dean.

posted October 28, 2003 01:24 PM           

Thank you for the enlightening reply, you have helped me understand greatly the very nature of Geminis I guess.

Not sure what you mean by typical leonine, I am sorry that your boyfriend does not pursue you, however in my relationship, if he called, I called back, I was as loving and caring as he wanted me to be, don't think it was the lack interest that kept him away, I don't play chase games.

I think it was the fact that I was not willing to bend backwards for him and cancel my vacation, how could I ? It was planned before I even met him. Also I noticed that he was quick on the eye like cristiname and thesag mentioned before, I am sure he found something that interested him more, nothing wrong with that, I just wish he would have been honest and open about it that is all.

posted October 28, 2003 02:28 PM           

I hope I did not come across too strong, I am sorry if I did, I have been told before that my writing is a bit stronger than it needs to be at times. I really did appreciate your take on the entire issue, it is good to hear other perspectives.

I am not sure if he is coming back, I just don't think he would like me to call him after he promised to call back. While we were together I got the impression that he liked to chase but not to be chased and he made it very clear that he was with me because I seem so sure of myself and did not take crap from him. Not sure how much of it was true.

posted October 29, 2003 01:36 AM           

I didn't mean that gems are unforgiving - quite the opposite really. But I've felt that if something REALLY bad happens, then I question the person's motives and likelihood to repeat it. I don't think you should've cancelled your plans in ANY way. From the sounds of things, he might've been playing games - in which case give him plenty of room, and be wary if he comes back. Out of every snu sign, I've had the most experience with gems. I've loved some, and I couldn't stand others. They are unpredictable and may take a LONG time to mature. Sometimes you have to decide whether you'd stick around and put up with the maturing, or just live on, and don't worry about it.

Best of Love and Luck

Dean.

posted October 29, 2003 04:43 AM           

I'm sure he hasn't forgotten you, but make sure you tell him that you were worried he didn't call, he'll get the picture.

posted October 29, 2003 09:26 AM           

Dean, I know what you mean about the maturing issue, I guess I will just need to wait and see, if he is to come back around and if he doesn't then I will not need to worry about it, thank you for taking the time to reply.

Nackie, I am giving him all the space that he needs, I miss him but I will not call him, I truly don't think he wants me to. You are right one week if not that bad, what makes me wonder is that he used to call multiple times a day, everyday, he would call me at work, on my way home and at home, I totally did not mind it becasue he was a lot of fun. I thank you too for offering your advice, coming from another Gemini, there must be some truth to it.

posted October 30, 2003 09:51 AM           

Cheer up, give him a call...just don't try to pin him down to why he didn't call you.

posted October 30, 2003 12:31 PM           

Good luck to you I hope everything works out for you two, they are a lot of fun. I enjoyed my Gem's company, while it lasted, to the max, it was a blast.

posted October 31, 2003 01:26 PM           

1. We tend to be distracted by interesting things.

2. We can become focused on a single objective if it is interesting, but tend to juggle numerous projects simultaneously.

3. We do not trust easily, trust must be earned, and it is easy for use to feel that the trust has been broken and it will be harder to earn it again.

4. The part where everyone thinks we are emotionally detached, is most often a ruse to prevent us from getting hurt. the theory being if your cannot see how we feel, then you cannot use it against us.

5. We are fully capable of see both sides of an arguement and reserve the right to change sides mid stream.

6. Just because we can see both sides does not mean we will admit if we are wrong, until you can prove it first, and then we will admit and be glad to learn from it. of course, we may find a loophole that allows us to show how we were actually right in the first place, and just miscalculated a minor aspect.

7. We are not wrong. We may lack all the details, but with the given information we are correct. once more information is provided, our final results may change, but were were still right at the time.

8. If a gemini studies how to do something, and is asked to put this knowledge into use before they can finish the full learning process, we ussually will be able to fill in the missing information on their own. their method may differ from the conventional or accept way, but it will work for the need they are given.

9. given a chance we will talk about something until all other parties have lost any interest in it anymore.

10. No we do not ramble, we are just very thourough with our explanations.

11. Yes, some of this was placed in here for humor value, but it does not make it less true.

Thank you, I hope this helps, but if you make it a rule, we will defy it.

posted November 01, 2003 03:07 AM           

Also, I find with the arguing that If someone has a good argument against, we usually work it into our own argument, and agree, "YES, that is a valid point, and just goes to show that there is more that meets the eye! Thank you for your astute observation, and further clarification of what I'm saying" I also think point 12 should be added that we may NOT be talkitive, unless of course no one else speaks, in which case we can hold LONG conversations with our selves BUT, of course we do ask questions and allow other people to add comments to OUR conversation. We also feel pride that we created such a great conversation - but maybe I'm starting to talk about my Leo Mars but I don't think so