posted January 13, 2012 04:09 PM            

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posted January 13, 2012 04:13 PM            

My Lilith conjunct his Dejan - significance?

His nessus conj your Moon. He will want to abuse you, at the deepest level of you.

Your Lilith conj His deja
Your raw sexuality touches his victim energy. You may be too raw in your sexuality, for him. Is this true? I am trying to figure it out. How would this play out? I will put up info on both and lets see if we can figure it out, together?

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posted January 13, 2012 04:15 PM            

My picture of Lilith is of a librarian taking down her hair, taking off her glasses and getting in to a black, silk little something. We,all, have a passionate side with raw primal emotions. God made us that way, so it must be how he wanted us.Lilith shows this slice of the human. Lilith can be in a place, in the chart, where it causes problems, though. I did a chart of a woman with Lilith conjunct Ixion. The person was a child molester. I do not believe someone is fated to be such. As I said earlier, Jesus can change, anyone . Jesus is above any condition or any chart. However, the chart will show one’s proclivities. What one does with them is up to the person. However, Lilith can have a beautiful place in the chart. One’s erotic passions are beautiful, in the right setting. Lilith can show that there will be powerful passions between people when it conjuncts another persons planets or chart angles.

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posted January 13, 2012 04:16 PM            

Is one fated to be a victim, if one has a dominant Dejaneria ? The answer would be no, in the same way that one is not fated to be an abuser with a strong Nessus. However, one will have to confront with the energy of the victim.I suppose Jung would call it the victim archetype. . If a person was abused, Dejaneria will show up in a strong way. Was it that persons fault that she/he was abused? No, it is never a child’s fault.. Is it her fault, if she enters in to abusive relationships as an adult? I don’t think so because she has been programmed to repeat her past. Can it end? Yes, when she finds and embraces another paradigm.

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posted January 13, 2012 04:16 PM            

If someone tells me about their relationship, in such a way that they feel they are going to die if they don’t get the person, I KNOW it is a Nessus/Dejaneria relationship. Why is the Nessu/Dejaneria relationship so powerful? I think it brings up childhood abuse. When you are abused, you equate abuse with love .You don’t want to It makes no sense, but you do. Abuse and love are intertwined. When you feel the Nessus in another person, it feels like your abuser. You may not like it or want it, but you are compelled to repeat it. The Nessus/Dejaneria relationship is the stuff of Wuthering Heights, Gone with the Wind and Romeo and Juliet. It is the stuff of which romance novels are made. It sweeps you up and away. You can’t help it. It has the power of eons of love stories and hearts which wanted to touch their true love. Nessus/Dejaneria is inexorable. What happens at the end? I don’t know. I don’t know the end.. I know that the passions are those of which murders and lusts and rapes and kingdoms rising and falling, are made. Nessus and Dejaneria cannot be taken lightly. Do so at your own peril. You see what happened to Romeo and Juliet. This is Nessus. This is Dejaneria. Use wisdom.

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posted January 13, 2012 04:29 PM            

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posted January 15, 2012 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
His Nessus conjunct my Moon - what is the significance?

My Lilith conjunct his Dejan - significance?

His nessus conj your Moon. He will want to abuse you, at the deepest level of you.

Your Lilith conj His deja
Your raw sexuality touches his victim energy. You may be too raw in your sexuality, for him. Is this true? I am trying to figure it out. How would this play out? I will put up info on both and lets see if we can figure it out, together?

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So, the Nessus/Moon conjunction...this means he wants to abuse me at the deepest level of me??? He has done a lot to hurt me, and in fact, the cause of our split was an increase in temper outbursts, one in which I felt frightened that he would actually hurt me (a time before, this normally sweet, patient, loving man, had punched his fist through a box) a both times were in front of our young daughter. His behavior was disturbing and for my daughter completely unacceptable.

What hurt most was when he told me, after saying "you're right, we need help, I've got to get a handle on my temper. I want things better - I never want to hurt you and our daughter like that again", he never followed through, and when I asked him why - he said " I don't want to bull**** you, I'm never going to change, so I'm not going to 'get help'". That hurt me at the core.

Or when we tried getting back together - and when I upset him with a need for sleep to myself - he flipped out, and insisted I was breaking up with him, then told me he'd been seeing someone else the entire past five months! (it was a lie, he later told me - said with the purpose to inflict pain)...

Is that what you mean? Or does it get worse?? This week he told me despite what we've done for two years now he won't do family holidays together - and snubbed my heartfelt birthday wish to spend it with my family at the beach.

My Lilith conj his Deja:
My raw sexuality is perfect for him, as long as it is entirely focused on him. I do think I have some fantasies that, while they began with him, carried on with other lovers to a new level (this is a bit too much info for even me)...I sensed he wasn't entirely comfortable with some of the newness initially - though he seemed to get into it.

Post-partum, my hormones and mood was so bad - I had no sexuality at all - it was like the death of Lilith. We both mourned - he took it personally though, and I felt guilt/shame. Perhaps that has something to do with that conjunction, at least when there's also a mans Pholus conjunct a woman's Juno?

Dunno...motherhood has been downright stressful and he hasn't been supportive of it. I find it interesting that though his Sun sign (OMG im just putting this together!) is opposite my father's - they both impact my sense of self in Aquarius (Father as Sun, he Pholus on Juno?!)

Lots of food for thought...thank goodness for the powers of analysis to assist in removal of emotion! Looking forward to your thoughts on all of this, and the synastry between he and daughter, me and daughter, especially now you have the pictures of us.

posted January 15, 2012 05:41 PM            

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posted January 18, 2012 10:51 AM            

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posted January 18, 2012 01:50 PM            

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posted January 18, 2012 04:46 PM            

Anyhoo - I guess this thread is where my heart is right now (though the relationship I've got with myself (natal), and my synastry with my daughter - also on my natal, and her syn w her father are also relevant, I feel those relationships have stability - and there exists enough similarities which extend from this synastry for me to make some practical applications. Plus, I just recently put most of myself and energy into this one...and I'm curious to know more of your responses/observations.

Take your time. And take a break if you need one.

posted January 18, 2012 04:51 PM            

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posted January 19, 2012 09:23 AM            

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