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Jaqueline
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posted October 20, 2002 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
Ra

Where are you ?
Celebrating already ?


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posted October 20, 2002 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
I'm here again.

But, and there's always a "but",my ex decided to appear again ,and for instance ,to buy things for my daughter that I cannot buy as expensive clothes and to take my daughter for weekends at the beach....
I admit that in the beginning I was a little sad and with fear that she preferred him, but that didn't happen. She knows the exactly difference between me and her father. He can buy what I am not able to, but he doesn't have to give what I have. Love 24 hours a day.

Of course for being stressed, a lot of times I didn't have time for my children and sometimes I fought with them.
But, last year, she went with me to Paris.It was an opportunity and I decided to take her with me.We stayed together 30 days, 24 hours a day and it was wonderful.

One day, we were walking at the Champs Eliseé and she began to sing a Brazilian song that says something like that :

" Nothing that happened will be again the same way that was one day,
everything pass, everything will always pass,
life comes in waves like the sea,
in a infinite going and coming.
Everything that we see now is not same that we saw one second ago.
Everything changes the whole time in the world.
So don't try do flee, nor to lie for yourself.
Now, there is so much life outside and in here,always, as a wave in the sea "

This music is from a very famous Brazilian singer and we began to sing together, given hands, in Champs Eliseé. The two laughing and sung.
When we stopped to cross the street. She hugged me and said:
" Mom, I love you so much, you are the best mother of the world !"

On that moment, all my effort was rewarded. My daughter's love turned off any sadness that I could have in my heart...

To finish. On that moment I had a strong sensation when I looked in Cleo's eyes that she was my mother in a past life. She took care of me and now it is my time of taking care of her.

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posted October 20, 2002 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
By the way

Thanks for the advice, I'll be more specific about my dreams from now on

And i'm quite sure that you saw Kardec's grave. It's the only one with fresh flowers everyday.
My daughter,as an old soul-I know that she's an old soul-just loved Pere Lachaise !

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posted October 21, 2002 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
This morning I woke up very angry, I can't remember what I dreamt, but I'm sure it was something related to my mum...Anyway, I've been taking my "homeopathic pill" today, thinking about something positive about her, something I approve of...And I also used my angry energy to solve another problem that has been bothering me for a while - I feel I'm having a mental feng shui clearing...
How wonderful to hear about you and your daughter! Pere Lachaise has a very god energy. The only grave I remember there with fresh flowers always was one of a revolutionary hero, there was a statue of him lying, with an erection showing under the trousers, and women who wanted to get pregnant was putting down flowers there and praying for fertility...The statue was in cobber and all greenish except from this part between the hero's legs, being touched constantly by wishful women...
...
I looked at your picture - I can't believe how young you look!! Or is it your daughter?
And the platform pictures, of course. You said the one in your dream was in the water. Always when I see pictures like this or science fiction films it gives me a feeling of fear and anguish and COLD...I'm an earth person, I like gardens and flowers and trees...

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posted October 21, 2002 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Stella

I'm an earth person also...I just can't see mys-elf living at the sea...
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Tonight I had an "answer dream". I made a question before sleep and "they" gave me the answer.
But I'm sad...my dog just died minutes ago

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posted October 21, 2002 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
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posted October 21, 2002 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Every day.

Thanks Jaqueline.

I regret hearing of your dog.

I will be back to you soon.

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posted October 21, 2002 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Stella Polaris!!

Thank you for the miraculous dream interpretations you have been posting! I need the help right now, and I appreciate your thoughts much!

You have studied Jung? He is great! Much MUCH better than Freud!

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posted October 21, 2002 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Ra
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Stella , did you saw a movie call "What dreams may come." ?
With Robin Williams & Max Von Sydow ?

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posted October 21, 2002 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry about your dog, Jakie.
I haven't seen the film you mention.
I didn't look at the pictures of people here because of my slooooow connection, it takes ages to download pictures. But when I get digital!!!
Ra, I read some Jung, but got most from Julia and Derek Parker. I've been studying dreams for many years, that's why I so clearly see when my dreams are "different" (and wonder about all this we've discussed above). But I've got a problem now: I dream an "ordinary" dream, start analyzing the dream while still dreaming and wake up remembering nothing! )
Jakie, I'd like to hear about your "answer" dream!

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posted October 22, 2002 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Stella

This movie talks about reincarnation , soul mates, suicide, reunion after death with the people that we loved and also speaks about forgiveness. No that forgiveness that we give to the other ones when they make something that displeases us, but the forgiveness that we have to give to ourselves. And this is the most difficult. To forgive ourselves.
Of course everything is approached in a Hollywood's vision , but if we remove the fantasies, we have a quite perfected vision of Kardec's doctrine .

At this moment, I am having a great problem with my ex. He told me a story and I was making force to believe ,going against everybody's opinion that he was lying to me. If he was really lying I would have to make a decision, therefore on Sunday, before sleeping, I asked that they gave me an answer. I should believe in him or not.
Then I dreamed that he came to visit me, he came with a woman that I could not saw the face,there was a fog in the woman's face . He was very kind and asked me if we could be friends, I accepted,but all the time I felt suspicious and uncomfortable with his presence. Then I saw that he spoke to me in a false way, I felt that his behavior was not natural, I could feel clearly that he was trying to betrayed me. I could saw in his face and in his eyes...

So, that's my answer dream. What do you think ?

Take care
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posted October 22, 2002 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
Ra

When you have a chance of reading what I wrote some posts above about some facts of my life,I would appreciate a lot if you could tell me your opinion if these facts influenced or influence my dreams.Specially the one in German...

I'm thinking about what Stella wrote." A kiss that a father gave in his daughter"...

Stella , feel free to do the same if you want. Ok ?
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Ra... by the way...
Thanks

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posted October 22, 2002 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Jakie, I think the woman arriving with your husband is you. The fact that you arrive together shows that you haven't clearly separated from him yet. Or rather: It seems to me that you haven't separated your anger and mistrust from him yet. What happens when there is fog in front of your face? You can't see clearly.
I think the German dream tells you that your husband really wants you to be friends, he kisses you like a father kisses a daughter - affectionate, non-sexual, friendly...

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posted October 22, 2002 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
The platform dream: There are two futures with your husband, one that scares you, one where you feel safe, familiar, and your daughter is with you. It struck me that it's your husband that is driving and that you had to ask him to take you back to the beach...

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posted October 22, 2002 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
Stella

The woman with "fog face" in my dream could be me,but it's not.
It's his wife. He married 30 days after we divorced.
I never saw her,but I know that she looks like the woman that was on my dream,brunette with long hair.

Maybe I should have told you all the facts,but I feel a certain embarrassment of being speaking certain things...
What I can tell you is that when we divorced I suffer so much,and this suffering was prolonged for a long time,but now it passed.
Believe me,what I feel for him today is a great affection, but we cannot be friends...yet.

Thanks dear

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posted October 22, 2002 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
Stella

I find very difficult to believe that my ex wants to be my friend, but today I had to make a very important decision and your words had not left my head especially because I also want to give him a chance.
My great dream is that we can be friends.

At the end of the afternoon I was at my office with dozens of drawings in front of me and my lawyer called, she was returning my call . I got to answer the telephone... but I gave up .

Minutes later, I called him, something that I didn't do since June
I began the conversation in a quite friendly way and tried to solve with him some problems that are pending and need an immediate solution.
He was quite receptive and assured me that up to Monday he will have a solution.

Don't worry, if he'll make everything wrong I am the only responsible, in fact I always considered myself the only responsible for everything that happens in my life.
I just followed my heart. My head objected strongly, but my heart compromised and ended up winning.

And you know what ? I am feeling much better. I'm feeling light. It's not that I like to follow my heart, he always deceives me,that's why I avoid to follow him to the maximum, but today I could not avoid.

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posted October 22, 2002 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
As today is "follow your heart" day I have one more thing to say that I just can't take out of my head.
Two accidents related to platforms of petroleum happened in Brazil.
The first was in March/2001 and the second 36 hours after my dream.
I believe that it's just a coincidence, but I had to write this here.


Jakie

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posted October 23, 2002 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
I had another dream
In reality were several dreams together .

In the first I was waiting for somebody in a bathroom of a restaurant, while I washed my hands - in an attitude that reminded me Poncius Pilatos - there was a lying man close to me.I found strange for being a feminine bathroom, but a dream is a dream.
I never saw that man before but I remind that he used a navy blue shirt and red pants. Maybe for having a very strong aesthetic sense, that combination - or the lack of - called my attention.

The person that I waited never arrive so I decided to wash my hands once again and I verified that the man continued there. I decided to look closely and I saw that he was dead. I panicked and left for the street. Who I waited had arrived, I entered in his car but I changed idea and decided to go walking .
I remember that I was terrified of walking alone, at night in the street, but then appeared some policemen and I felt holds, only that immediately these policemen left in a bus and again I was alone.

In the second dream I was waiting for a person that was seeking a house to buy, as I commented my house is for sale. Only that the house that I was selling was not mine...maybe it was my imagination,but I felt that the house was not mine. It was a house in front of the sea, a place absolutely beautiful, with a garden with colored flowers, it was a place that seemed the paradise.

When this person arrived to see the house, he said that he would buy because he loved the sea and my house was everything that he wanted. I felt that I was not telling the truth to that man, because I had the sensation that I was selling the wrong house. My house is not in front of the sea.
Suddenly, several people began to arrive to do a New Year's party .

I was more and more upset with that situation and I decided to leave .
I walked for a long time hoping to find somebody to help me understand what was really happen.

I entered in a bar and there was this man alone. The man had black hair and black beard. I approached him and I asked for help, he told me that on that moment he could not help me because he also had many problems. He had a family and a small child that needed him and for this reason he had to work the whole day and sometimes at night.

I said that I didn't want his money ,what I needed was help and only he could help me. Once again he lamented and said that he could do nothing for me.
I looked inside his eyes, imploring for his help ... He stayed impassive.
I left the bar,and still looking behind, I woke up.

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posted October 23, 2002 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Jakie, I will think about what you have written, your dream and come back to you, I'm just getting so stressed because I never have enough time to work and I need to, the kids constantly have holidays from school and this weekend some friends are coming which need some preparations...Though better buzy than bored...
But help me with this dream, please, there are some elements that puzzles me:
Everything was falling apart, there was ruins everywhere, but I kept training, eg. running up and down a corridor and felt very fit and happy. There was this lake and dead bodies being dragged out of the lake (I didn't feel uncomfortable about that or anything). On a rock by the lake sat some collegues from my old newspaper, they where happy to see me and asked me to join them, but I didn't sit down, they had like a pick-nick, but I continued running. Suddenly one room was totally fixed from the ruins and painted salomon pink (disgusting color). The headmaster of my son's school pointed out that everything was fine, but my son kept showing me that the paint was still running and I knew the ruins were just painted over.
Then there was this busy street with a flower shop and I bought flowers. Then suddenly my son and I are out in a field waiting for a train, we get tickets. The coupe is very tiny, there place for my son and the son of the woman we share it with, but the woman and I put down green blankets on the floor to lie down, my son lies down there, too. Then I'm at the balcony of my house, everything is wet or filthy, but drying and being put together, it has to do with just fixing my horoscope. My son is bicycling on the road in front of our house, he's free.
...
The dream definatly has to do with my mother..the lake in the dream is where she has her summer house, I don't like it. One of the my former collegues in my dream actually comes from a farm next to this lake, so it's not so strange he shows up like this...But I can add that my mum was VERY upset when I left my job as a journalist and moved to Greece (one of the things that makes me angry with her is that she didn't come in my wedding, she didn't even call...because she was at this summer house by the lake, without a phone)...I also want to add that my mum is headmaster at a school...

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posted October 23, 2002 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
Stella

I don't have the intention of giving an interpretation for your dream, in fact, I thought a lot before giving my opinion.
I just decided to give my vision, because you said these words: "help me with this dream, please ".

For me, your dream indicates that you have an ambivalent attitude regarding your present . A mixture of both, positive and negative.
What I felt, and please correct me if I am wrong, is that you don't seem to be satisfied with your life. It is as if you wanted to change your life, but at the same time a certain fear exists in relation to the safety that this life that you already know, gives to you.

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- The coupe is very tiny, there place for my son and the son of the woman we share it with, but the woman and I put down green blankets on the floor to lie down, my son lies down there, too…. My son is bicycling on the road in front of our house, he's free.

As if you wanted to retake plans that were undone, a career that was interrupted, old friends, that you think are accomplished with their professions.
quote:
- some collegues from my old newspaper, they where happy to see me and asked me to join them, but I didn't sit down, they had like a pick-nick.

It seems that everything that is around you is in ruins, falling, but a paint covers, like this, anybody can notice what is really happening.
The ruins were painted to hide what cannot be hidden anymore, since even a child can see that something is wrong with this painting.
quote:
- but my son kept showing me that the paint was still running and I knew the ruins were just painted over.

But before doing any change it is necessary to have the certainty that everything will be fine.
quote:
- it has to do with just fixing my horoscope.

But how can anyone be sure of tomorrow?
Make a new bet ?
Besides, there are those who were against our bet . Those who said: You are wrong
quote:
- my mum was VERY upset when I left my job as a journalist and moved to Greece.

But we didn't believe and we did well in not believing, because to grow and to follow our path we had to choose our own road .

Dear Stella, this is just my opinion. Ok ?
I'm sure that Ra can give you a better interpretation .

Take care
Jakie

Lord, give me serenity to accept what I cannot change ,
courage to change what I can ,
and wisdom to distinguish one from the other.

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posted October 23, 2002 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
I'm back.

I put my two neurons to work - please, don't tell anyone, but I have only two neurons - and I had a conclusion that definitively you should ask Ra's interpretation.
But also,I began to think that he will never find your dream in the middle of this mess that I did.
I transformed this thread in a mess.
Here I talk about my life, my dreams, past lives , future and presents lives. This is beginning to be confused for me, imagine for our moderator...

So,as soon as I finish this post, I will make a cleaning in some of my posts.

About my last dream, it is so clear for me that it doesn't remain any doubt.
It's so strange...when I wrote it, I didn't had the smallest idea of what I was talking about.
But, after I read it, here, it was so clear that I wonder, which was mine doubts after all ?
Sometimes, just to put in the paper, makes an immense difference !

Jakie

"So take your time look round and see
The most in time is where you're meant to be
For you are light inside your dreams
For you will find that it's soomething
That touches me"

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posted October 24, 2002 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
I made a cleaning in my posts...they are light now.
I hope you'll notice

Talking about mothers...mine made a Tatoo today
This is karma dear...


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posted October 24, 2002 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
Jakie, you right: I'm not satiesfied with a part of my life: The relationship with my mum. And I try to figure out what the dream is telling me about this. "The dead bodies" being dragged out of the lake has to do with me leaving my job and my mother's reaction to it, this is a big peace of stinking, rotten meat in our relationship, also because now she's trying to copy my new career...Two years ago she even said that when she retired she might move to Greece and become a writer..She's always pushed me to have a career. First she was very upset because I didn't study, in her opinion I should have become an architect like the rest of the family, instead I was travelling and writing. She relaxed when I was having success as a journalist and was very satiesfied when I got a presticious job for a big paper - it didn't matter to her that I felt I spent my whole life at work and wanted to do more with it than that, also that I hated living in Oslo... Me running happily and fit down the corridor shows that I'm pleased with having ran away from my old job, I think, though being in a corridor shows that I'm also trapped and I believe that refers to feeling this problem with my mum is trapping me, I need to solve it to continue my life...Of course the ruins painted pink shows that only on the surface things are fine and the flowers I'm buying definatly that I decided to try to give my mum's compliments to see if that can help changing things around...The headmaster is me, obviously since I've decided treating my mum like a child wanting approval..The train thing I don't understand, also the role of my son...This feeling related to the horoscope just shows that my relationship with my mum shows in my chart and that I want to fix it and become free like my bicycling son...
Got to run!
I'll get back to you later.

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posted October 24, 2002 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
Stella

I love to hear you talk about your profession. My dream, when I was a teen, was to be a journalist and writer. I remember a series called "Mary Tyler Moore ", I don't know if you got to know this series, but it was about a journalist that lived alone, she had a best friend and was totally independent. That was my dream of life, to be a journalist, to live alone and being totally independent. But I ended up following architecture, I married at 18 and soon I had my first son...

My relationship with my mother was always a paradox. My mother was and continues being somebody that at the same time that pushes me to heaven, saying that I am capable to become whatever I want, is also the person that pulls me down, when she says that I'm weak and without her I'm nothing.
When I was younger, my mother's words hurt me a lot. I suffered when I was disapproven by her.

Today I understand that it is because of her own insecurity that she tries to diminish me. In reality she admires me, but she doesn't have the necessary courage to admit that, because I made exactly the opposite of everything that she wanted me to do. Therefore if she praises me, she will be admitting that she was wrong.
And we cannot forget "the factor jealousies" in relationships between mothers and daughters.

But life has their own mechanisms to put things in their owed places. When my father died, my mother inherited a great fortune that she didn't know how to administer and ended up throwing everything out. One year ago she was going by a difficult financial situation and I invited her to live with me. I admit that I was terrified imagining my mother inside my house after so many years. It would be difficult for me and for her, because she was always an authoritarian woman, accustomed to give orders. But she needed me and I would never abandon my mother.

She came and behaves as a guest, we talked a lot, we go out for restaurants as best friends, she tries to interfere in my way of educating my children, I pretend that I don't notice, and things are going better than I thought. Just yesterday I was telling her the history of the prince Sidarta and trying to teach her the principles of Buddhism that she must learn : Detachment and Inpermanence.


Anyway, I hope that Ra can take a look at your dreams when he has time.And now that I made the cleaning at my posts he'll find your posts...He can help you better.

Take care
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posted October 24, 2002 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Stella and Jaqueline! You two have been very busy here! I actually did print out both of the dreams last night. I have interpreted yours, Jaqueline, but have no time to type it out right now! Do you still want me too?

And I have begun on Stella's dream, and will continue if you wish. But I do not know if you two really need me! I must admit that I have only had time to scan through this last page of posts, so I do not know every word, but it seems to me that you both are incredible with each other! Bravo!

Is there a desire for me to interpret these dreams still? I will gladly do so if you wish, but I may just end up repeating the wise words that each of you have already spoken!

The both of you are truly AMAZING!

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