posted February 12, 2004 01:34 PM            

Hi...I am a chemist...Oxycontin is not the same as Herion -it is an analog, but it is not the same. Guess what else, My father is retired DOJ -Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement - he led some of the state of Cali's biggest busts on HEROIN not oxycontin - because the latter is legal by RX whereas Heroin is not.

The US invented Heroin and gave it to the world. The Japanese invented meth and gave it to the world. How else do you think they got those Kamikazi dudes to give up their lives so fanatically. Watch Sultan Sea...it's a good movie.

Oxycontin and Oxycodone can both be crushed and injected - but who in the hell does that anymore? Most people are not even injecting Heroin - the snortable kind is much purer and easier to ingest - just don't inject the pure form or you may just die. (Nope, I have never done it nor ever will - but I do know alot about drugs LOL)

Harpyr,

I am more afraid of the evil diatribes of Terry MacCuliffe (sp) than I am of Rush. I would equate him to a Nazi at all. His words are not full of venom, in my opinion, either. Isn't he entitled to his say in public? I mean, we let everyone else spew whatever they want, but because some people don't like Rush, they want him off the air and they call him a Nazi. That doesn't seem fair at all.

posted February 12, 2004 03:43 PM              

MILLIONS$$$$$ off of dittoheads by telling them things like that....
most of those quotes come directly from HIS 35 undeniable truths LOL
http://ivycenter.com/allamerican/rush.htm

so do you think rush wouldve "taken responsibility" if his housekeepers
pharmacist husband hadnt been BUSTED?

and yes doctor shopping is ILLEGAL....

There's a simple way to solve the crime problem: obey the law; punish those
who do not.

If you commit a crime, you are guilty.

Compassion is no substitute for justice.

Morality is not defined by individual choice

-rush limbaugh

"Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws
against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the
laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and
neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating
the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be
convicted and they ought to be sent up."
-- Rush Limbaugh. October 5, 1995 show transcript.

"What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug
use, too many whites are getting away with drug sales, too many whites are
getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity
is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others
in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones
who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river,too."
-- Rush Limbaugh. October 5, 1995 show transcript.

It's kind of like sentencing. A lot of people say that we have a heavy
sentence for this crime and a light sentence for another crime, and what we
ought to do is reduce the heavy sentence so it's more in line with the
other. Wrong. In most cases we ought to increase the light sentence and
make it compatible with the heavy sentence, and be serious about punishment
because we are becoming too tolerant as a society, folks, especially of
crime, in too many parts of the country."
-- Rush Limbaugh. October 5, 1995 show transcript.

i also listen to Rush....my juxtapositioning of his quotes with Hitler's was prompted by his often used propoganda claiming that Hitler was a leftist and that socialists are trying to rewrite history by calling Hitler a right-wing fascist. actually Rush is trying to rewrite history by repeatedly offering the ONE fact he knows about ww2....

(said with haughty arrogance....)
"Ladies and Gentlemen did you KNOW that the Z in "NAZI" stands for SOCIALIST??"

I for one do not believe Rush is a conservative,i believe he's a right wing extremist who hides his real nature by offering unoriginal common sense sayings only to carry his true extremist,polarizing agenda...

posted February 12, 2004 05:59 PM            

Before you blow a head gasket you should know I looked up Limbaugh's website and it's not the same site linked on this thread.

That doesn't sound like things I've heard Limbaugh say but probably the thing that comes closest to something he might say is that Liberalism must be defeated, politically. There isn't anything in that to get hot and bothered about. When I have happened to catch parts of his show and that's unusual, he is unfailingly polite to liberals who call in. In fact there is a large backlog of callers waiting to get on and those who say they are liberals and want to give him hell go right to the top of the call list.

I browsed his site and found the 35 undeniable truths link but you have to be a member to read from that section and I'm not. I don't believe Limbaugh would license someone to take material from his website that his members pay for and put it on a free site---so, I doubt the authenticity of what has been posted in his name. I couldn't find links to any associated outside site on his website either.

I don't know if that answers your question or not but if you want to check for yourself, the address is www.rushlimbaugh.com

Hmmm, dittohead as I understand it is someone who agrees with Rush Limbaugh. By the way, he has an sizable audience of liberals listening. Are they dittoheads too?

posted February 12, 2004 07:55 PM            

In the case of John Kerry, he lies liberally.

posted February 12, 2004 09:13 PM              

So, its ok to lie and send Americans off to die for a fabricated, pre-emptive war, as long as no sex is involved? And yes, we must keep the image of the evil Clinton alive and well to frighten people....its always a Clinton's fault.
Clinton didn't lie to start a war.
Clinton didn't allow companies to outsource American jobs to save CEO's stock options.
Clinton didn't use fear to take away our civil liberties.

No, he was not perfect.

posted February 12, 2004 09:49 PM            

quote:

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The most beautiful thing about a tree is what you do with it after you cut it down.

---

AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
I'M BLOWING A HEAD GASKET!!!!!!!!!!!

*whew* Okay, I feel better now that I've let off some steam.
But, really..
That is a sick and twisted statement, IMHO.
Indicitive of someone who seriously needs to get back in touch with their humanity.

As for all that crud about peace not being the absence of war.. (sounds familiar.. WAR IS PEACE, right?)

I prefer to subscribe to the notion so eloquently summed up by a very wise man..

posted February 12, 2004 10:18 PM              

- Open-minded
- Free-thinkers
- Creative
- Compassionate
- Honest
- Truth-seekers

Not that all conservatives lack those traits. But I've learned through experience that many do. And not that all liberals are angels. Most of them aren't.

I'm not unpatriotic, or anti-American. I'm anti-Bush and anti-war, which isn't the same thing. Some liberals aren't Christian- why is that a bad thing? So we're treehuggers- again, why is that a bad thing?

posted February 13, 2004 01:57 AM              

And isn't it a little lame to bring someone who died forty years ago into this in an attempt to prove liberal hyprocrisy?

posted February 13, 2004 02:21 AM              

"According to Susan Trento's 1992 book, The Power House, he [George H. W. Bush] had been getting some on the side, too.

"The story goes that he had had an affair with a State Department official who worked for him back in the 1970s. Some reports have suggested that the affair spanned nearly 20 years. Trento alleged that George and the woman shared a private cottage in Geneva in 1984.

"The U.S. Ambassador to Switzerland told Trento's husband that it was clear they were having an affair. But the ambassador died of cancer four years before the book's publication, so with no first-hand substantiation, press coverage of the affair was scant." http://home.earthlink.net/~zkkatz/page19.html

posted February 13, 2004 10:43 AM              

rush rants like that for THREE HOURS A DAY...he only grants phone calls on friday (if you can get thru)
yea someone go pay FIFTY DOLLARS A YEAR to access his little files and articles LOL no thanks i already got conned into buying both his books
or better yet , BUY his newsletter, he guarantees that if you read it youll be able to bounce bush bashers like me off the walls
"Liberal" is such a dirty word to ditto heads most of them even think the Libertarian Party are leftists(lol) for two reasons, it "sounds like" liberal and because Rush would never promote a moderate conservative party like that on his show.to him anything even close to center is communism.

pidaua, how do you "know" rush is conservative if you dont even know what a dittohead is? LOL
and if youre a good judge of character then what do you make of Neil Bush??
(most "conservatives" i know never even heard of him )
i consider it to go straight to his upbringing and character.
this KID was GIVEN a cushy job on a banks BOARD OF DIRECTORS. instead of kicking back and being paid a fortune to do nothing, he promptly embezzles HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS$$$$. this doesnt make you wonder how bush sr taught his kids responsibility???(it only confirms it to me)
and of course "conservatives" LOVE skyrocketing deficits(it only makes them richer) so bush sr waited to bail out the s&l's.by that time the interest on Neil Bushs' "withdrawal" alone was a BILLION $$$$$(thats BILLION with a B!!!)

and noone needs point ME at bill Clinton, in my opinion he was only "allowed" to run for President as a political payback for covering up his own role in the iran/contra scandal....
Oliver North was moving huge amounts of "contraband"(lol) thru Mena airstrip only miles from the governers mansion in little rock??
does the phrase "out of the loop" sound any better to me coming from clinton? lol not!!
(i wont accuse clinton of helping north to move DRUGS for the contras, someone here might all of a sudden DEMAND the PROOF LOL)
and no one is a little curious why the SAUDI'S would be paying A MILLION DOLLARS A MONTH to help fund bush sr.s honduran terrorists??

"IN A POST 9/11 WORLD"(I hear that phrase all the time from rush and sean) if they were such honest folks bush jr would restore the presidential records act he revoked and release EVERYTHING under the freedom of info act before the elections so that people could really know what they are voting for... "

Motherkonfessor hit the nail directly on the head with the term ive been searching for....CARTEL
do you think these middle east cartel dictators are "liberal"??

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

posted February 13, 2004 11:47 AM            

This can't be repeated enough in this country right now, if you ask me.

It really bugs me when some people accuse me of being a "communist" and then proceed to proclaim that the natural progression of communism is to become facism. As if by making sure that the US remains hyperactively capitalistic we are somehow immune to fascism. That is a bunch of BS though.. This rabid capitalism is JUST as capable and already sliding in the direction of fascism. Heck, just go out in the street in Miami and try to excercize your first amendment rights..

These are the primary symptoms of our decline towards the 'corporatism' Mussolini described-

Capitalism has transformed law and culture so that Capital has acquired private property rights over-
*the Constitutional rights of natural people
*limited liability
*free speech; campaign contributions; rights against unreasonable search and seizure
*live forever
*"lost profits" and "future profits"

posted February 13, 2004 11:48 AM            

For months I have been trying to figure out the reason for the incessant anti-Bush and hate speech from the left. I have read and researched but just could not come to a plausible conclusion as to the underlying rationale for the anger. There had to be some type of explanation.

Today I attended a conference on customer service. The topic turned to dealing with difficult customers. The speaker passed out a chart comparing the traits of a mature person with an immature person. I was scanning the list when the proverbial light bulb came on. What was once cloudy, was now as clear as glass. It is simply a matter of immaturity.

Let's examine the characteristics of an immature person and see how it compares to the actions and language of the left.

JEALOUS OF OTHERS
President Bush won the 2000 election no matter how you try to spin it. One of Bill Clinton's cronies lost to a Republican. After Sept. 11, Bush became relevant. He fought back like Clinton had never done. Then the 2002 election rolled around with the resultant hammering of the Democrats. The Dems are losing the power and they can't handle that.

HOLDS GRUDGES
See the 2000 election.

ARGUMENTATIVE
Have you ever tried to have a calm rational discussion about the war against terrorism with a Democrat? It is a complete impossibility. As soon as the discussion begins, you'll hear the words "illegal", "unjust", "immoral" etc. Try to counter their claims with facts and the Dems turn red in the face and their voices rise in pitch. At any moment, you expect their heads to start spinning around and steam to start pouring out of their ears. Facts don't matter -- their point of view does.

LIVES IN A DREAM WORLD
The Dems just can't face the facts. World peace is a wonderful thought but just not a reality. Appeasement and negotiation with terrorists is not an effective tactic. Conspiracy theories are the forte of the left. Terrorism will not just go away if ignored.

BLAMES OTHERS FOR MISTAKES
Gore lost because Bush cheated. Bill Clinton was a scapegoat for the Republican's power struggle. Bush ruined the wonderful economy that Clinton left us. Enron was the Bush administration's responsibility. North Korea's nuclear threat rose because the Bush administration dropped the ball. Sept. 11 was the result of the Bush administration's failure.

BELITTLES THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF OTHERS
We were successful in ousting the Taliban and capturing Saddam Hussein. The economy is getting stronger daily. More countries are joining our coalition in Iraq. Libya acquiesced to turning over their weapons of mass destruction. Ask any Democrat about this and you'll get replies that start with "Yeah, but…" You may also hear "It's no big deal."

DOES NOT CONTROL THEIR TEMPER
See Howard Dean, Ted Kennedy, Michael Moore, Charlie Rangel, etc.

ENJOYS OTHERS' FAILURES
Members of the left are quick to jump on anything that could be perceived as a failure by the Bush Administration or the Republicans. The left uses the deaths of coalition soldiers as a statistic for failure. The deaths of Iraqi civilians are tallied on a site called the Iraqi Body Count in order to prove their point of a failure in Iraq.

DEFIES MORAL CODES
See Monica Lewinsky, Perjury, Ted Kennedy

PLAYS JOKES ON OTHERS BUT CAN'T TAKE ONE THEMSELVES
The left thinks that name-calling and Bush bashing is okay. Websites denigrating our President are an example of free speech. It's okay to call the Republicans "fascists." Ads using vulgar names to describe our president are just a form of sarcasm. On the other hand, any name calling by others is inconsiderate, rude or stupid.

SELF-CENTERED
See Bill and Hillary Clinton.

So after reviewing the characteristics of immaturity and recalling the attacks from the left, I think we've found an answer. It's not just the election of 2000. It's not just about peace. It's just a matter of the level of maturity. Maybe the Dems just need a "time out" because spanking is no longer politically correct. Do I think that the Dems will ever behave in a mature manner? Yeah right...WHEN PIGS FLY!

2-13-04

Note: Just call me a dittohead.jwhop

posted February 13, 2004 11:59 AM            

j/k.. sorry.. it's the computer geek in me coming out.

I really do prefer to drop the petty finger pointing back and forth between Dems and Repubs. It's just a distraction from coherent discussion of the REAL issues at hand.

------------------
Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high;
Where knowledge is free;
Where the world has not been broken up into fragments by narrow domestic walls;
Where words come out from the depth of truth;
Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection:
Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way into the dreary desert sand of dead habit;
Where the mind is lead forward by thee into ever-widening thought and action--
Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country (or our world!!) awake.

posted February 13, 2004 12:12 PM            

No, YOU'RE not supposed to take seriously the opinion of someone who subscribes to AOL

The more pressing question is, do you want to be taken seriously and if you do, do you think making wild, unfounded and unproven accusations against The President, his motives and character advance your cause?

posted February 13, 2004 01:02 PM            

I am a DITTOHEAD!!! LOL....

People may not like what Rush Limbaugh has to say, but he does back up his statements with FACTS. That is a hell of a lot more than I can say for the Lying Left that uses poetic license to support their fabrications ala..Michael Moore, Gore, Clinton..etc..

Pick up Ann Coulters book on Slander to find out the real truth behind these lies of the left. She has factual documents because it is well known that a conservative better have at least 10 supportive documents in order to make a statement versus a Liberal who just pulls this stuff out of the air and then can't back it up.

posted February 13, 2004 01:07 PM            

LOL...I found the reference now. Sorry, I don't pay that much attention to certain things..but I do like Rush, I just can't listen to him very often because I am at work and I have CD's versus a radio.

Anyway, the last time I checked we didn't hold a brother accountable for his brothers sins. If that were the case neither Clinton nor Carter would have been electable.

posted February 13, 2004 03:20 PM              

HOLDS GRUDGES
who went to WAR over a 12 year old grudge with a former employee who tried to "kill my dad!!"

ARGUMENTATIVE
no one calls the war on TERRORISM illegal or unjust, perhaps youre confusing the war on terror with the war on IRAQ people only want the facts about the cia's role in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Pakistan and with Bin Laden so that we can START a rational discussion about the WAR ON TERROR

Webster's Dictionary

Definition: \Ar`gu*men"ta*tive\, a.
1. Consisting of, or characterized by, argument; containing a
process of reasoning; as, an argumentative discourse.

I am not a child to be told "be quiet"
nor is the Bush administration an infallible father figure LOL
ive asked you many rational questions but you dont seem to want to discuss them

LIVES IN A DREAM WORLD
terrorism will not go away if we ignore our own "allies" role in it
when suadi's attacked on 9/11 we attacked afghanistan, then iraq, then more saudis killed americans IN SAUDI ARABIA and we started eyeing iran, syria...only the saudi royalty and bush jr live in a dream world....

BLAMES OTHERS FOR MISTAKES
who does rush blame for EVERY problem in the country?
the day after the northeast blackouts Rush was blaming environmentalist WHACKO'S for stopping power companies from building new lines.anyone whos ever had a 100 foot tall powerline pylon planted in their front yard without notice knows that power companies arent obligated in any way to listen to COMMUNITY PROTESTS

BELITTLES THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF OTHERS

Rush should pat Clinton on the back for lying to North Korea with his offer of lightwater reactors, but instead claims that clinton GAVE them their nuclear technology!!!....."yeah but...""
see also Blames Others....

DOES NOT CONTROL THEIR TEMPER

if you have no passion you cannot get angry
just look at bush jrs face when Card tells him "America is under attack!!!"
then watch as he just sits there blankly.....

ENJOYS OTHERS' FAILURES
OMG!!! an IMPEACHMENT trial over sex....
they just did that because its "so important to America"
see also jealous of others

I'm not defending clinton , I'm only adding counterpoint to your Limbaugh induced fog of self righteousness

i remember how quiet Newt Gingritch was during those procedings...

DEFIES MORAL CODES
"The U.N.(who's ENTIRE MISSION is to PREVENT armed conflict and BLOODSHED) ladies and gentlemen, is irrelavent"
see Newt Gingrich
(ever heard of Lawrence[LARRY] E. KING, Jr.,?)
ever heard of Neil Bush?

PLAYS JOKES ON OTHERS BUT CAN'T TAKE ONE THEMSELVES
OMG!!!
youve never seen or heard Rushs' long drawn out parody segments?
starting from day one of his tv show??
Daschle the "devil"
13 year old chelsea clinton "the white house dog" !!

nobody called Limbaugh a NAZI til he first opened his mouth and started speaking...
i remember something about european nazi's being fired by bush sr. during his 1988 campaign, that was well before Rush became popular

SELF-CENTERED
omg!! see the entire profession of politics!!!
ever studied Ayn Rand philosophy, the centerpiece of "conservative" thought ??? see her title..."the virtue of selfishness"
Rush parrots it all the time but never mentions her name because
1. she was an atheist
2. her philosophy was inspired by Nietchze, who was also Hitlers Idol
3. he wants everyone to think he thought that stuff up himself
(dont get me wrong here, MUCH of Ayn Rand philosophy is good...just too many absolutism's for me)

ahhh facts...i once listened to rush argue for an entire segment that second hand smoke wasnt "that bad"( the first report came out saying that second hand smoke causes cancer) because even potatoes have trace amounts of nicotine....
so he said that one could sit in a smoke filled room for three hours and get the same amount as eating three pounds of potatoes....
any one see where his train of logic jumps the tracks??(like usual)