posted May 26, 2006 07:36 PM            

Are we just going to go round and round until you can think of something of substance to say? I don't think anyone would agree with your assessment that I'm the one ducking, weaving and evading. Perhaps you should put your daughters on, Jwhop. Maybe then a discussion with some semblance of thought would occur.

As far as there being leftist intellectuals, I don't see where you tackled the information I posted at the start of this, so devoid a coherant argument from your side you must agree that I was right in showing you that we're smarter.

Let me make something clear here as well. I'm going to keep allowing you to make an @ss of yourself for as long as you want, but I'm not going to put any more work into this until you can find something of substance to say. So you can keep trying to change the focus of what we're talking about, but until you address any of these things don't expect that I'm gonna provide you anything further.

posted May 26, 2006 07:50 PM              

Jwhop is better at starting arguments and name calling than he is at logical debate.

When it comes to logical debate Jwhop is out of his element.

posted May 26, 2006 08:23 PM            

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There are plenty of intellectually superior arguments on the left, and plenty capable of making them. ....acoustic

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In response, I said the following.

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I'm talking about enunciating a coherent policy...domestic or foreign and backing their arguments up with clear and convincing logic.

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Now acoustic, if you can find one leftist intellectual with a clear, coherent policy argument..either foreign or domestic who can lay it out chapter and verse, logically and reasonably, then post that argument here and let's have a look at that leftist intellectual and their argument.

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Though I've prompted you numerous times, you still haven't come up with even one leftist intellectual nor have you so much as identified one or posted their foreign or domestic policy here.

posted May 26, 2006 10:09 PM            

Innuendo may work on the clueless, but I'm not going to buy it. You can imply all you like that Democratic policies aren't logical, but there are two things you have to keep in mind:

1. You haven't disproved any of them despite my providing you with a few to talk about.

2. You regularly back the policies of a failed administration. This doesn't really make you a genius when it comes to policy.

So whenever you're ready to prove the intellectual superiority of the right, have at it.... as always the best minds in America will be right here to refute you...

posted May 27, 2006 12:40 AM            

I don't see any such thing on this thread. If you did so, then it should be very easy for you to copy and paste the name of the leftist intellectual(s)...and their policy positions in a new post on this thread.

Otherwise acoustic you're blowing smoke out of the wrong orifice.

I don't need to highlight the brilliance of conservative thought in foreign and domestic policy.

It's leftists who are bit*ching, moaning, screeching and whining like children about the Bush policies.

I asked you and others have also asked here WHAT SHOULD BE DONE DIFFERENTLY

You asserted there were plenty of leftist intellectuals with good policy positions.

I gave you an opportunity to put some leftist brilliance on display here and asked you very specifically for leftist intellectual thought in the areas of foreign and domestic policy.

posted May 27, 2006 02:32 AM              

You know the liberal policy on the war in Iraq. They want to end that war and bring our troops home.

You know the liberal policy on working to balance the budget instead of continuing to give tax cuts to the wealthy.

You know they have stated that negotiating with Iran is what is needed and they called for Bush to provide all the evidence that intelligence has regarding Iran's nuclear capacity to Congress because they have stated they are not going to make the same mistakes they did with the Iraq war by believing the lies presented to them.

You know the Democrats want to create alternative sources of energy and in fact Clinton just came out in the news and announced an alternative source. The Democrats are working with the Apollo Alliance to create alternative sources of energy.

You know that the Democrats have always believed in working with the UN and developing good diplomatic relations in the world instead of employing tough guy, John Wayne threatening tactics as a form of diplomacy.

The Democrats would see to it that the social programs are funded and they would work on getting health insurance coverage, especially for the elderly and children.

They would cooperate with unions. Liberals believe that workers have a Constitutional right to organzie without intimidation by the company.

They would raise the minimum wage in the country. Something that has not even been addressed by Bush.

Liberals are good at creating jobs for Americans. Clinton created more jobs for Americans than any president in history.

Bush has put more Americans out of work than any president since Herbert Hoover.

Those are just a few of the policies that would be the liberal alternative to Bush's policies.

In fact, Bush is the perfect blueprint of how not to run a country so just about anything they do, as long as it is the opposite of Bush's policies would be a better way of running the country.

posted May 27, 2006 03:36 AM            

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acoustic, you continue to insist you have already posted the intellectual arguments of leftists in the foreign or domestic policy areas.

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I posted four policies from the left, and you even mentioned them in one of your posts, so I don't see how you're now claiming ignorance.

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I don't see any such thing on this thread. If you did so, then it should be very easy for you to copy and paste the name of the leftist intellectual(s)...and their policy positions in a new post on this thread.

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The policies of the left are, or seem to be created by groups of individuals. Policy isn't about the individuals who wrote them. Democratic policy positions are readily available from many sites. If you'd like to look into them, feel free. They're not a big secret. There's no password necessary to get in. Look them up yourself.

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It's leftists who are bit*ching, moaning, screeching and whining like children about the Bush policies.

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Yeah, 70% of those polled now are what you consider leftists I guess. Maybe you should consider finding a new place for your allegiance.

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I asked you and others have also asked here WHAT SHOULD BE DONE DIFFERENTLY

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I gave you six ideas off the top of my head, and you didn't respond to any of them. 2nd page 5th post of mine.

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You asserted there were plenty of leftist intellectuals with good policy positions.

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There are. I don't need to hold your hand and bring you outside to prove the sky is blue. You can walk outside yourself. I don't need to send you an album to prove that a band has a new song. You can look it up yourself. If you want to discuss democratic policy, and how (being an intellectual) you can disprove it's merit, go ahead. That's a point YOU are trying to make, though. My point has been made. Finding for YOUR sake the myriad policy opinions out there so that you can make YOUR point seems more than a bit counter-intuitive. Besides we discuss policy all the time as it is here in Global Unity.

posted May 27, 2006 12:42 PM            

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You know the liberal policy on the war in Iraq. They want to end that war and bring our troops home.

You know the liberal policy on working to balance the budget instead of continuing to give tax cuts to the wealthy.

You know they have stated that negotiating with Iran is what is needed and they called for Bush to provide all the evidence that intelligence has regarding Iran's nuclear capacity to Congress because they have stated they are not going to make the same mistakes they did with the Iraq war by believing the lies presented to them.

You know the Democrats want to create alternative sources of energy and in fact Clinton just came out in the news and announced an alternative source. The Democrats are working with the Apollo Alliance to create alternative sources of energy.

You know that the Democrats have always believed in working with the UN and developing good diplomatic relations in the world instead of employing tough guy, John Wayne threatening tactics as a form of diplomacy.

The Democrats would see to it that the social programs are funded and they would work on getting health insurance coverage, especially for the elderly and children.

They would cooperate with unions. Liberals believe that workers have a Constitutional right to organzie without intimidation by the company.

They would raise the minimum wage in the country. Something that has not even been addressed by Bush.

Liberals are good at creating jobs for Americans. Clinton created more jobs for Americans than any president in history.

Bush has put more Americans out of work than any president since Herbert Hoover.

Those are just a few of the policies that would be the liberal alternative to Bush's policies.

In fact, Bush is the perfect blueprint of how not to run a country so just about anything they do, as long as it is the opposite of Bush's policies would be a better way of running the country.

All of the things I stated, caring for the needy, the elderly and our children, social programs to help the underprivileged, caring about the working class citizens and negotiating as a means of solving the problems in the world and only going to war as a last recourse are all the very reasons that you hate Democrats and liberals, Jwhop. They are the ones who move the country forward and the world with it. So you hate them for that....acoustic

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acoustic, are you certain you want to advance these points as an integrated and coherent domestic policy of leftist intellectual thought?

Some of these are already in progress..by Bush, some are me-to-ism by the left and some contain the seeds of outright fraud, lying and turning over responsibility to others which is the opposite of leadership.

I'm going to be gone until tomorrow but if you really want to talk about these so called leftist intellectual policies, we will....when I get back.

posted May 29, 2006 10:20 AM            

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* Fiscal Responsibility?
* Stem Cell Research?
* The Clean EDGE initiative?
* Raising the minimum wage?...acoustic

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acoustic, this is not an integrated, coherent domestic policy. This is a hunt and peck through the possibilities of ideas which might be part of an integrated domestic policy and beyond that, none are defined, i.e., spelled out as to what they might entail and some would be harmful to the economy and hurt the very people they are supposed to help. I see you have so much faith in these statements you decided to use question marks at the end of each one.

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* Managed the country's finances
* Kept it's eye on the ball with regard to Bin Laden
* Pursued Iraqi adherence to U.N. resolutions by developing the worldwide sentiment of agreement on the issue instead of going at it cowboy style. (Did you see Bush last night?)
* Offered energy meeting details to the public for scrutiny
* Not established secret prisons which operate outside of the law
* Allowed at least the U.N. to inspect Guantanamo for the sake of the world's trust in our justice system...acoustic

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This fails the giggle test acoustic Again, it lacks the detail but states possibilities which might be incorporated into domestic and foreign policy for the United States. Further acoustic, some of these fall into the category of doing it better, faster, higher or deeper, me-too's of things Bush did do. On the other hand acoustic, some are not policy statements but rather ill concealed lies against the United States for which you are unable to offer a shred of proof or evidence.

This is the kind of kiddie talk leftists have made famous. The kind of kiddie talk which marks leftists as irrational, illogical non thinkers and outright liars but by no means the intellectuals you claim leftists are.

posted May 29, 2006 10:32 AM            

I simply restated what Mirandee posted and asked you if you wanted to go with it...since you were unable to respond in any comprehensive and coherent way.

posted May 29, 2006 12:28 PM            

Since you did, let's have a look at each one of your statements.

"You know the liberal policy on the war in Iraq. They want to end that war and bring our troops home."

This must be the most irrational, illogical and dangerous position any American could possibly adopt. To hand over Iraq to the terrorists who are attempting to overthrow the duly elected government of Iraq would leave the very vacuum in the area which caused George HW Bush to not pursue removing Saddam in 1991. To have done so would have been an open invitation to Iran and Syria to move to seize Iraq's oil fields, especially Iran.

Further, it would embolden terrorists and terrorists regimes around the globe to further attack the United States...as bin Laden noted numerous times and acted on numerous times during the testerone challenged Clinton Administration when the US was under attack both here and abroad.

"You know the liberal policy on working to balance the budget instead of continuing to give tax cuts to the wealthy."

I recall the balanced budget initiative very well Mirandee. I also recall the Republican Congress dragging Clinton to the signing desk and thrusting the signing pen into his hand. The balanced budget initiative was crafted by the Republican House of Representatives and passed by the Republican Senate both of which had the votes to override any Clinton veto.

Beyond that Mirandee, the budget deficits of today are less than half of what they were in the 80's and early 90's when viewed as a percentage of the GDP...Gross Domestic Product. Further, the Bush tax cuts created a boom in the American economy, more people are working in America than at any time in history, their incomes are higher even when inflation is calculated into the mix, more people, including minorities own their own homes than at any time in history, American's net worth is higher than at any time in history and those Bush tax cuts not only set off the boom in the American economy but increased federal tax revenues by more than 15% over what they had been. More people working, making more money, corporation and small business incomes up paying more taxes, hiring more people who also pay taxes, both federal and state.

"You know they have stated that negotiating with Iran is what is needed and they called for Bush to provide all the evidence that intelligence has regarding Iran's nuclear capacity to Congress because they have stated they are not going to make the same mistakes they did with the Iraq war by believing the lies presented to them."

Yes, I'm aware of the "leftist surrender now crowd" wanting to open direct talks with Iran on their nuclear weapons programs. The obvious outcome would be that Iran would stall, evade, talk, agree to do or appear to agree, then change their minds, come back and attempt to renegotiate all over again....while at the very same time continue to develop the means to produce a nuclear weapon until such time as they actually did have it...and all under the guise of talking and negotiating.

Brain dead leftists have learned nothing from history, nothing at all. If they had, they would well remember Hitler and Neville Chamberlain who negotiated, talked and agreed...while Hitler stalled, acted in bad faith and continued his military buildup...under the guise of "Peace in Our Time"....until HE was ready to attack Europe and usher in his 1000 year German rule. That leftist blunder caused the death of 50,000,000 people in WWII. It also caused the partition of Europe and the enslavement of all of Eastern Europe under communist rule.

No thanks Mirandee. The US and western nations are not at all interested in having Iran blackmail the world with a nuclear weapon or weapons, blackmail other middle east nations into handing over their oil fields to Iran and establishing an insane Islamic revolutionary rule over the entire area. That's not going to happen but it's what Iran envisions and is working to bring about.

Leftists also have such a short memory they don't even recall Saddam's stalling, evading, cheating on and thumbing his nose at 16 UN Resolutions demanding he honor his ceasefire agreement....for 12 years.

There is no hope for leftists, none whatsoever because leftists live in a fairyland world which never existed on earth.
Leftists also live in the lying world as your allegation...again without a shred of proof that Bush lied about a single thing he said to the American people.

"You know the Democrats want to create alternative sources of energy and in fact Clinton just came out in the news and announced an alternative source. The Democrats are working with the Apollo Alliance to create alternative sources of energy."

Screw Commander Corrupion. Clinton had an opportunity to start such initiatives during his corrupt regime and didn't. Clinton presided over increased dependence on foreign oil and didn't lift a finger to make the US energy self sufficient.

Bush is and has been funding reasearch and development of alternative fuel sources.

Further, leftists oppose the intitiative which would in fact make the US less dependent on oil and natural gas...both foreign and domestic oil and gas. They oppose every effort to build nuclear power plants in the US. Those plants...if they had been build would have reduced US dependence on oil and natural gas by almost 40%.

Leftists don't have a leg to stand on when they bring up alternative energy sources. The biggest and best alternative has already been rejected by leftists. Now, leftists want to take American productive crop land out of food production and grow grass and corn for ethanol production. A splendid idea for a hungry world.

"You know that the Democrats have always believed in working with the UN and developing good diplomatic relations in the world instead of employing tough guy, John Wayne threatening tactics as a form of diplomacy."

Yes, I'm well aware of leftist attempts to turn US sovreignty over to the corrupt and indefensible United Nations. I'm aware of UN peace keeping forces standing by on the ground while perhaps as many as 2 million Rwandians were systematically slaughtered without the UN lifting a finger. I'm aware of the corrupt UN standing by while the slaughter began and continued in the Baltics...without lifting a finger. I'm aware of the corrupt UN gazing at the genocide in Sudan and doing not one thing, lifting no fingers but talking about how awful it is. I'm aware of the Porno rings run in beseiged nations by UN peace keeping forces, the rape and trading of sex for food to starving people just so they could stay alive a little longer. I'm aware of the utterly corrupt UN involvement in the Oil for Food Program and the utterly corrupt French and Russians reasons for not going along with the US to remove Saddam. Long story short....Saddam was bribbing them and the record is very clear on that point.

"The Democrats would see to it that the social programs are funded and they would work on getting health insurance coverage, especially for the elderly and children."

A leftist wet dream of a nationalized health care system modeled after that of Canada is a long standing dream of leftists...including Hillary who attempted to nationalize 15% of the entire US economy. A Marxist notion which is failing and producing shortages of healthcare, a shortage of doctors, a shortage of new technology and equipment and long waits just to see a doctor. It's also causing deaths for some who must wait for services under the Marxist system and social engineering is a part of that system as well. People have been and are being refused treatment, not because treatment options are not available but because they smoke...or they're overweight or they're something else the little Marxists social planners want to stamp out. Screw Hillarycare and any other Marxist intervention into healthcare.

Social programs for children, for women, for the retired and for the elderly are being funded, funded to the tune of more than 50% of the entire United States budget.

"They would cooperate with unions. Liberals believe that workers have a Constitutional right to organzie without intimidation by the company."

This is the wetdream fantasy of leftists. The US government is not conspiring against Unions. American workers have the right to organize and have for a very long time. What leftists mean is that they want the government to unionize the entire American workforce by government fiat...an unconstitutional abuse of government power.

The very thing which the government can and should do is pass legislation that unions cannot demand businesses payroll deduct union dues from their members paychecks. Why the hell should employers be the bill collectors for unions? A fact of life is that Unions have become nothing more than political entities. The protection of workers is the last item on their agenda. Political power is foremost and they use union dues of union members in political contributions to parties their members do not and would not support. Union membership has fallen to new lows and not because the government is acting against unions or union workers. The working public is rejecting union membership in ever increasing numbers..mainly because of the partisanship, corruption and affillation with organized crime rampant in the unions leadership.

One thing I would like to see the unions...expecially the trade unions adopt again....that they had in the past, is an apprenticeship program. That seems to have fallen by the wayside but it's sorely needed to teach potential workers in trades the skills they need.

"They would raise the minimum wage in the country. Something that has not even been addressed by Bush."

Bush has visited the issue of raising the minimum wage and rejected it as being counter productive to those who leftists say they want to help.

The most vulnerable workers are those making minimum wage and those would be hurt at least 2 ways. Many are in positions which would be eliminated, and low skilled jobs...entry level jobs would dry up. Further, the price of everything would go up and hurt those least able to afford it the most.

Leftists don't have a clue about the law of unintended consequences. They are also clueless about business. Increased costs..taxes, labor, materials and everything else must be passed on to consumers or businesses MUST go out of business. Business reaction to increased costs on any front is to either draw in their horns, lay people off, find new ways to do the same job at reduced cost, automate, increase prices or send work offshore.

Entry level jobs are intended to be just that. A starting point in the work life of individuals to get some job experience and training. Entry level...minimum wage jobs are not supposed to be a way of life. Those in minimum wage jobs are to learn the job, do it well, show up for work reliably, get some job skills and move up to the next level...which is not minimum wage...making room for a new group of inexperienced job seekers.

That's the capitalist system and it benefits everyone. Minimum wage jobs are "On The Job Training" for more responsible positions...either with the same company or another who needs their new skills.

Leftists envision a French socialist system for America. A system with 40% unemployment among the unskilled. A system where those without skills or work experience are frozen out of the workforce or must bribe an employer for a job. A job btw, which is locked in, without any upward mobility to make room for other unskilled workers to get some job experience and training.

No thanks.

When people go to work, they are expected to learn their job, show up on time, do their job, get some experience and move on to bigger and better positions. They are not expected to stay in that job long...let alone forever. Corporations are willing to train and even send willing workers to school and workshops for additional training. Contrary to leftist notions of corporations, they actively look for skilled employees, nurture them through the work process and value them highly.

Minimum Wage is OJT and nothing more. Raising the minimum wage is counter productive to those who need jobs the most and hurts them as consumers at the same time by forcing them to spend more for the very items they need.

posted May 30, 2006 02:54 AM            

Jwhop, I'd suggest doing a real study of deficit spending, and those who are the worst at it before making any more comments. Merely comparing today's deficit with the record deficit spender Reagan isn't enough. If Clinton had continued the spending habits of the two prior presidents we'd be in a much worse place than we are now. The truth is that Democratic presidents do a better job of managing the deficit than Republican presidents do.

Clinton wasn't the only one to take issue with the Balanced Budget amendment. The issue is the enforcement of it when federal receipts fall short of funding the budget. What recourse can the Supreme Court impose, and would those kinds of decisions be right to put in the hands of the court?

With regards to your assertions about the economy I'd like to see the qualifiers. When you say "than any time in history" are you referring to literal numbers (which would be affected by population growth), or are you talking numbers as a percentage of the population? And when you refer to "previously," [what things had been] are you comparing to points during the recession?

I believe there is a point to setting the terms of speaking with Iran. I disagree with the assessment that everyone who wants to have talks should be treated like Hitler, however.

Your accounting of Clinton's energy record is incorrect. In fact, Clinton wished to be more aggressive with his energy policy, but was thwarted by Republicans. http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/new/html/Tue_Oct_3_130025_2000.html

People on the left aren't as against nuclear as they once were. Philosophically, it's interesting the Republicans are all for reacting in fear to all world events, and yet when it comes to adding a nuclear reactor to American's backyard they deem those people's fears unreasonable. It is also a bit ironic to bring up nuclear power, when we were just talking about Iran who claims to simply want nuclear for energy themselves. Perhaps we should tell Iran that they can buy cheap nuclear energy from us if we can put a plant on their soil.

posted May 30, 2006 11:22 AM            

Your mistaken notion, I must prove far left democrats are non intellectuals is laughable. The issue was for you to put forth the intellectual policy of leftists in the areas of domestic and/or foreign policy. That issue only arose because you insisted there were plenty of leftist intellectuals...with good policy positions. Yet you failed to name a single one...either by name or by stating the coherent, integrated policy they put forth.

I'll stand by my statement that the political left is an intellectual wasteland.

Clinton indeed was continuing the spending and taxing policies of the far left. Tax, tax, tax; spend, spend, spend....until the Republican Congress stopped Commander Corruption in his tracks with a comprehensive balanced budget initiative that he couldn't veto. Further, Clinton was and remains today a colossal liar. Clinton got elected by promising the American people he would not raise taxes to implement his asinine social policy. Less than 3 months into his presidency, Commander Corruption gave America the largest tax increase in the history of the world...not just in the history of America but in the history of the world.

Who can forget the kooky, idiotic, asinine Clintonista plan to examine rent structures in different areas of the country....then, if you were paying less rent than the established rates or if your house payment was less than the established rent rate for your area....those idiots would then declare the difference to be INCOME...taxable income. That would sure as hell have thrown grandma and grandpa...who had owned their home for years...right out into the street..along with a hell of a lot of others on fixed incomes.

So, Commander Corruption made a speech....less than 4 months before he left office extolling his energy policy. A policy which did not include building nuclear power plants, did not include drilling where there are untapped oil reserves, did not include building more refineries but did include doling out tax payer money to government hack scientists to find new ways to produce energy. Further, Commander Corruption attempted to summon yet another bureaucracy to liquidate Americans money. It would have been better spent by baling the money, hauling it to the street and setting it on fire. No wonder the Republican Congress told Commander Corruption to stuff it.

acoustic, the jobless rate...unemployment rate for March Was 4.7%, Lower Than The Averages Of The 60s, 70s, 80s, And 90s. Leftists are still running around talking about the depression in the American economy, the bad economy, the sour economy, the slow economy, when just the opposite is true. That unemployment rate has been hovering between 4.6% and 4.9% for some time...years. One of the reasons...along with the boom in the economy, the Fed has raised interest rates about 20 consecutive times...to slow the economy and make sure inflation doesn't get a toehold.

Nothing ironic about producing nuclear power here in American and opposing nuclear weapons for the insane, radical Islamic terrorist regime in Iran. Just good common sense acoustic. Common sense, the missing ingredient on the radical left.

You seem totally incapable of connecting the dots acoustic. Those who want to enter into endless talks with Iran....while they posture, stall, renegotiate and deny, as they have been doing for several years already....are not compared to Hitler. They're being compared to Neville Chamberlain who talked, talked, talked, negotiated, negotiated, negotiated endlessly with Hitler until Hitler had his military machine built to attack Europe....and did just that.

Show me one so called leftist intellectual who is advocating building nuclear power plants acoustic.

This would be the result of following leftist democrat energy policy for America.

posted May 31, 2006 02:27 AM            

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That issue only arose because you insisted there were plenty of leftist intellectuals...with good policy positions

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As a matter of fact, I didn't say anything about policy. I said that the left could make intellectually superior arguments. You took that to mean policy, because of what you said, which was another inaccurate statement:

"There are no intellectually superior arguments on the left and none capable of making them. No ideas except hate, class warfare and envy. Nothing to plug into a political campaign."

The left does not preach hate. The left has nothing to be envious of. Class warfare is attributed to the left, but philosophically that's not where I personally find the left to be.

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Yet you failed to name a single one...either by name or by stating the coherent, integrated policy they put forth.

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Primarily because they are easily found. All you have to do is look. You can look at the democrat's site, or you can look at the policy positions coming out of democratic think tanks across the country.

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I'll stand by my statement that the political left is an intellectual wasteland.

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I wouldn't expect anything less from a person as close-minded... or was that uncompromising?

I see you completely avoided Clinton's handling of the deficit, which again is something that I've come to expect from you.

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A policy which did not include building nuclear power plants, did not include drilling where there are untapped oil reserves, did not include building more refineries but did include doling out tax payer money to government hack scientists to find new ways to produce energy.

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New energy sources are what is called for ultimately. That's the big picture solution. Maybe you'd like to read about hydrogen cars: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/10/1016_TVhypercar.html

Amory Lovins, creator of the car in that article, is very likely a democrat himself and his resume is absolutely insane in terms of accomplishment. Just one of the many intellectuals you might find if you actually looked into who on the left is informing policy.

posted May 31, 2006 05:18 PM            

As for your absurd comment:

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The left does not preach hate.....acoustic

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Leftists are the very manifestation of hate.

Chairman of the DNC...Howard Dean
I hate Republicans

Al Gore...failed Presidential candidate
He betrayed our country, he played on our fears

Al Gore...failed Presidential candidate
Gore: Bush is 'renegade rightwing extremist'

The Steve French
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Just look at their leader....he's an illiterate proto-chimp.
Flinging poo and bananas is all they know how to do.
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posted May 31, 2006 06:19 PM              

Al Gore...failed Presidential candidate
Gore: Bush is 'renegade rightwing extremist'

Just take a look at our reputation around the world. I don't blame them at all.

Boo Hoo Clinton had an affair boo hoo. Who gives a damn. The man sure knew how to handle the country well.

He will never be close to being a baby killer.

Look there's Pidua. Her hair is so blonde and her eyes so blue. She's definitely a confederate :/

NOT

posted May 31, 2006 06:35 PM            

That is exactly what you are. An offensive, narrowminded racist that thinks everyone is less that what she is because she lives in the ghetto in NYC. You don't even like your own face let alone anyone elses. That is sad and pathetic.

posted May 31, 2006 08:14 PM            

Prozac was Commander Corruption's choice...for those times he used his nose like a vacuum cleaner and got wound up a little too tight.

posted May 31, 2006 08:19 PM            

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Boo Hoo Clinton had an affair boo hoo. Who gives a damn. The man sure knew how to handle the country well.

He will never be close to being a baby killer.

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