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venusdeindia
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here is the full story for citizens interested
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This was the biggest scandal in the history of the U.S.A history. The story received some newspaper coverage but there was a TV News Media blackout on the subject. For this reason, most Americans have never heard of it.

Former republican Senator John Decamp was involved in the production a documentary called "Conspiracy of Silence" it was to air May 3, 1994 on the Discovery Channel. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired.

Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired F.B.I. chief, Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved. You can purchase a VHS copy at this link. Or you can view an online copy at this page. Franklin Cover up video page

Boy prostitutes 15 years old (and younger) were taking midnight tours of the Whitehouse. There are 19 more Washington Times articles in full text about this case available here at this link.
Newspaper scans or text are not for commercial use. Solely to be used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion.

The Washington Times, Pg. A3 July 26, 1989 Headline: Secret Service furloughs third White House guard

The story was also covered in the New York Times and other major east coast newspapers,
but because of the links to Whitehouse and control from the top the story was killed..

There are two main suspects in the child ring were Craig Spence and Lawrence E. King Jr. here are some pictures of them. Both were involved in the republican party. King sang the National athem at two republican national conventions during the 1980s. He served time in jail for bank fraud and is now living somewhere on the east coast.. Spence was an important republican lobbyist, he commited sucide. Several of his partners went to jail for being involved in the adult part of the homosexual sex ring. Democrats were also involved in this as well, so don't expect them to expose the sex ring.
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"Franklin Case Witnesses Implicate FBI and U.S. Elites in Child-Torture and Murder."

What is the FBI Protecting?
Since the 1992 publication of John DeCamp's book, The Franklin Cover-Up, Paul Bonacci has filed new affidavits and has given extensive interviews to investigators including reporters for Executive Intelligence Review and New Federalist. Bonacci's disclosures have been cross-gridded with evidence supplied by authorities in law enforcement, psychiatry, and the intelligence community. The result goes a long way to explain the high stakes involved, and the frantic nature of the Franklin cover-up. . . .

Paul Bonacci has described in detail being dragged to Washington for use as a sex toy for Larry King's clients. Bonacci told investigators he was in one of the private White House tours for young male prostitutes conducted by lobbyist Craig Spence, a close political associate of Larry King in the cloak-and-dagger Contras enterprise. Spence turned up dead in a Boston hotel room in 1989, soon after his and King's "compromising" business was exposed in a Washington Times June 29, 1989 story, headlined: "Homosexual Prostitution Inquiry Ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush."

'Monarch' or Auschwitz - Take 2
From very early childhood, Paul Bonacci was subjected to tortures as profound as any the Nazis inflicted on their captives. This is not merely a comparison; rather it is an actual continuation, as we shall see. From sexual degradation, from witnessing and forced participation in Satanic cult murders, Bonacci suffered the cracking of his mind into what is called "multiple personality disorder" (MPD). Tens of thousands of American children have been diagnosed MPDs; virtually all of them are thought to have resulted from sexual abuse, of which perhaps 85 percent were cases of Satanic ritual abuse.

Psychiatric professionals specified in Paul Bonacci's legal proceedings that through it all, Paul's different "personalities" have emerged incapable of lying, with an ultra-sharp memory. In one instance detailed in The Franklin Cover- Up, Paul was taken by Larry King and others to a wooded area in California - identified after publication as the Bohemian Grove. There Paul and another boy were forced to do sex acts with and to consume parts of a child whom they had watched being murdered by the cultists. The body was to be disposed of by "the men with the hoods." A "snuff" pornography film was made of these events; it was directed by a man the party had picked up in Las Vegas whom Paul identified as "Hunter Thompson" -the same name as a well known sleaze-culture figure.

Paul has told investigators that the ring which plunged him into Satanism was centered at Offutt U.S. Air Force Base near Omaha; that he was taken to Offutt to be sexually victimized by a babysitter's boyfriend when he was about three years old, around 1970. Offutt is the headquarters for the Strategic Air Command, and has had a cadre of thousands of intelligence personnel.

At Offutt, and later at other military installations, Paul says this ring "trained" him by tortures, heavy drugging, and sexual degradation, while instructing him in military arts including assassination. In fact, his personal knowledge in these realms can scarcely be accounted for other than by crediting the indictments he has made.

Larry King, FBI agent Gerry Wahl/ Alan Baer, Harold Andersen, and a former Omaha Police Chief have all been reported as collaborators with this Satanic military-based ring. King reportedly told Paul's captors at Offutt, "He's young-but you trained him good." A member of Nebraska's Concerned Parents group reported hearing from two North Omaha witnesses that "King used to send limousines down to Offutt Air Base to pick up CIA agents for parties." Larry King reported his own adoring relationship to the late CIA Director William Casey in a Sept. 7, 1988, interview in the Omaha publication Metropolitan.

Psychiatrists who have treated a growing number of MPD cases, victims of Satanic ritual abuse, report an alarming pattern of findings in many of their child patients. There is a structure to the personalities, conforming to what is evidently a deliberate breaking and reshaping of the mind. This phenomenon was identified to Paul Bonacci by his tormenters, and to other victims and witnesses, as the "Monarch" project. At Offutt Airbase, Paul was told that what he and other children were being subjected to was in aid of national security.

The use of mind-altering drugs, sensory deprivation, and other brainwashing techniques on U.S. citizens as subjects was the admitted practice of the CIA, certain military arms and private institutions joined in the MK-ULTRA, Artichoke, and Bluebird projects beginning in the early 1950s. A national security pretext often cited was the need to keep up with the Soviets in the race to develop a workable Manchurian Candidate human robot. With the "Monarch" (or whatever official title may be attached to it) project, the idea is extended to the production of a horde of children in whom the soul is crushed, who would spy, ***** , kill, and commit suicide.

The material presented here, on this subject, must be under- stood to be only a bare introduction to a complex story with immense political and strategic ramifications. It is a beginning. Professionals probing the child victims of "Monarch" say there are clearly two responsible elements at work: the government/military, and cooperating Satanic (or more exactly pagan) cults. These are multi-generation groups, where parents donate their own children-who are proudly called "bloodline" or simply "blood" cultists - to be smashed with drugs and electric shock, and shaped. Other children are kidnapped and sold into this hell, or are brought in gradually through day-care situations.

Paul Bonacci and other child victims have given evidence in great depth on the central role of Lt. Col. Michael Aquino in this depravity. Aquino, alleged to have recently retired from an active military role, was long the leader of an Army psycho- logical warfare section which drew on his "expertise" and personal practices in brainwashing, Satanism, Nazism, homo- sexual pedophilia and murder.

A former director of the CIA was asked directly, "what about 'Monarch' "? He replied angrily, and ambiguously, "We stopped that between the late 1960s and the early 1970s." If a statement of fact, this would presumably relate to official participation of the CIA.

Some Codes and Assignments
The disclosures of Paul Bonacci, which cohere with reports of MPD professionals in other cases, point to a particular artificially induced mental structure as common to many victimized children. Space permits only the briefest treatment of this here; this is intended mainly to begin to "blow the circuits," so to speak, when followed up by professional therapists and investigators.

These are some of the widely occurring separate "persons" which have been formed under torture, and the corresponding "triggers":

. General personality-accessible under the code name ALPHA, with possible Alpha-001, Alpha-009, etc. "persons" with distinct task orientations.

. Sex programs, accessible through code name BETA; particular programs (and thus commands) are for pornography, acting, oral sex, etc.

. Assassination programs, utilizing very specific modes, and espionage, accessible through code DELTA.

. OMEGA, self-destruction programs, ranging from self mutilation to suicide by many different specific possible acts.

. GAMMA, system deception, amnesia and disinformation programs. Under this or 'other codes are track-covering false origins for the structure, giving the child memories of tormenters dressed as space aliens or Mickey Mouse or in Wizard of Oz costumes.

There are said to be such other personality levels as Master Programmer, Black Master, and different mental levels of backup programs. There are reported to be personnel who have large numbers of child-victims' assignments and triggers neatly filed in their little computers.

Paul Bonacci reports the following "Monarch"-related activities, often involving his "Commander" at Offutt AFB, Bill Plemmons, and Lt. Co!. Michael Aquino:

. Picking up cash in exchange for drugs at various Tennessee locations. Bonacci identifies several country music personalities as contacts.

. Trips on behalf of the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), the pedophile group now given semi- official status by the United Nations. Paul cites travel to the Netherlands and Germany carrying child pornography for sub- sequent "import" to the U.S.A. to avoid prosecution. In Amsterdam, he names "Charles Hester," and the British "Tommie Carter," who had on computer a global list of child pornography users. NAMBLA is also cited for organizing auctions of children.

. Travel to Hawaii, New York, Washington (in connection with Craig Spence) to compromise public figures by performing homosexual pedophile sex with them.

. The trip to California where the boy was ritually murdered, accompanied by "Monarch" contact, Mark Johnson of Denver, Colorado,

. Travel to .Mexico for the transportation of drugs, guns, and children. Paul was accompanied by the gangster-figure "Emilio," who otherwise directed the kidnapping of Johnny Gosch of Des Moines, Iowa. Johnny Gosch's parents commend Paul Bonacci as an accurate witness relative to that crime.

. Training under "Captain Foster" (survival skills) at Fort Riley, Kansas, under "Lt. Dave Bannister" (intelligence) at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, under "Col. Harris Livik" at Fort Defiance, Virginia, who is said to run a military school and to have housed "Monarch" boys. "Col. Bill Risher" of Bamberg, South Carolina, is said to have supplied children for Michael Aquino.

. Travel to Dresden in communist East Germany, where weapons were inspected. There and in the Federal Republic of Germany, the "Monarch" personnel were frequently neo-Nazis. This milieu is a special project of Lt. Col. Aquino, who was a West European adviser to the U.S. Chiefs of Staff. Paul Bonacci has extensive experience in the Aryan Nation and other White Supremacist cults.

An account of the origin of the "Monarch" project has been compiled by those who have been debriefing MPD child-victims. Nazi experimentation in World War II concentration camps were said to have gone beyond simply insane physical tortures. They brainwashed people, for military and strategic purposes. After the war, Allen Dulles and other Western intelligence people brought Nazi doctors out for use in the United States. A teenaged concentration camp inmate named Greenbaum, who had participated to save himself, also came to the United States. Known later as "Dr. Green," he became a high- level brainwasher, and is widely represented in brainwashing programs with a distinctive Cabalistic magic theme.

[at the time this aritcle was written, Anton Chaitlin did not know that Dr. "Greenbaum" was yet another pseudonymn used by Dr. Josep Mengele of Auschwitz notoriety. Arizona Wilder identified Mengele as using both the names of "Dr. Greenbaum" and " Dr. Green" in her 1999 video interview with David Icke titled, Revelations of a Mother Goddess. ]

The precise details of these horrors lie deeply buried in national security archives. But this history, as told to psychiatrists, dovetails with what is definitively known about Anglo- American intelligence operations and the German Nazis. And once again, the story goes right back to Nebraska.

The killers in the Nazi camps were themselves trained and organized by psychiatrists and eugenicists, operating from the "T4" bureau. These psychiatrists had long been the pets of white supremacist British and American financier networks.

At least some of these Nazi doctors were spirited out of Germany under the supervision of for Bank of England Governor Montagu Norman and Tavistock Institute Director John R. Rees on behalf of the British government. Norman, personally an insane Theosophist who had been chief of the prewar pro-Nazi faction within England, and Rees organized postwar propaganda and continuing psychological warfare activities, and created "Orwellian" groupings within U.S. psychiatry and mental health fields.

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"
Most of us don't profess to be citizens of the world...and we don't intend to be.

If that bothers you, then up yours.

" JW


in the summer of 1987 a second cousin went to Kashmir on a class trip.
he was 10 years old.his friends say he vanished in thin air.

in 2001 my first cousin and her husband moved to Redmond, Washington, he works as a techie in Microsoft.
a few months later they went to a weekend trip to Seattle.
at a public park, stopping for a break from the sightseeing, my sister saw a suspicious stranger eyeing her.
a few minutes later when she was heading to uy water bottles for her family, she heard her name being called and turned around.
the stranger asked her if she was " ,, "
shocked at being known by a stranger in a foreign land my sister was speechless when she realised he had eerie likeness to the missing cousin

, in which time, he told her to tell his parents that he is safe, and is sorry but cant come back.

then he just turned an walked away. leaving her shouting his name amongst the crowd.
she rushed to her cellphone to call his parents.

they had spent their lifesavings on private investigators to find their only son , for a decade .

when his mom heard the message she went quiet, started sobbing , kept sobbing for 3 days and passed away on the fourth.

u , JW dont want think u r a global citizen, but her pain is shared by the mothers of all those 500000 kids who disappear in ur country every year.

those who are traced are found to be sexually abused.

is the pain of their parents any more or less than that of an indian mother ???

15000 indian girls disappear every year like the 500000 in US, victims of trafficking.
some kidnapped, some lured on the promise of a job, from poor villages.
they end up victims of a paedophile industry, centred in south asia

that caters primarily to americans and europeans, 25 % of these paedophiles are Americans, as per the a UN Estimate, broadcasted on an Oprah special on trafficking.

think urself a citizen of a piece of land u may,
but our problems are the same, as are our dreams, heartbreaks and illusions.

next time a non american states the facts on the mess that ur administration is creating across the globe , TRY not to make personal insults or question his intentions.

he may be born of a third world country but he is human.

do him the honor of proving he is wrong , thru research and broad- minded thought processes.

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posted December 20, 2007 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Allllll Aboard... the crazy train has just pulled into the station.. Your conductor VenusdeIndia welcomes you aboard!

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posted December 20, 2007 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh.. I forgot to add some interesting details about this Rajneesh / Osho topic...

RAJNEESH FOUNDATION

Typical was the Rajneesh Foundation of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. Born in India in 1931, he experienced a spiritual death and rebirth in 1953, going on to found his cult in Poona, near Bombay, in 1974.
A mixture of humanistic psychology, meditation and sex, in 1981 he bought a 64,000 acre ranch in Oregon, living a life-style which included 93 Rolls Royces, surrounded by his four thosand followers. However, he was soon outgrowing his ranch and decided to take over the near by town of Antelope, wanting to call it Rajneeshpuran.
This involved various conspiracies with his lieutenant Ma Anand Sheela, including an attempt to assassinate a prosecutor (two British women were eventually jailed for this).
Money was also ploughed in to buy up the businesses, even opening an airport to bring in his regular seven thousand festival visitors.
However, his cult collapsed in 1985 amid faction fights and he left America following immigration and fraud trials. Believing that you could only be spiritual if you were rich, Rajneesh died in 1990, his ideas continuing with Osho, an organisation that runs hundreds of small centres through the world.

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posted December 20, 2007 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what

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posted December 20, 2007 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm? You make point after point yet can't deal with information concerning someone you referenced? You make me laugh. LOL... I hope venus made room for you on his crazy train. LMAO..

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posted December 20, 2007 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So What

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posted December 20, 2007 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG... you sound like that hormonally challenged high schooler you keep referencing. "So what" is your best witty remark?

LMAO...

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posted December 20, 2007 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venusdeindia, not positive what planet you think you inhabit...but on this one, it takes more than simply saying something is so or not so to make it stick.

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in the privacy of his own trashy Indian caste system thread that i blew into smithereens
December 19, 2007 11:25 AM
"You should learn to pick your battles more carefully. Choose battles you could possible win"

oh dear, the elder brotherly advice that can save my life

from what ???

what did u do to mannu ?
sneak to other forums to find some personal potshots to take.
because it was an insult to your intellect to google and prove that mannus facts are wrong ?
because being a taxpayer who is financing a military dictatorship in Pakistan makes the u " Voice of America" on this public forum ?

because i blew every single " shining light " post of yours to smitherens ?


" All battles are not about winning,
some are about doing what is right.

an Ego slave might think of nothing but winning his battles.

a Human being is concerned most about doing what he believes is Right . "

quote dec 20 2007 4 :34 a.m. .. Guru Venusdeindia....Venusdeindia


How many posts would you like to see from different sources about the horrors of the Indian caste system venusdeindia...that is if one is not among the higher castes?

And, exactly what goodness of character, splendidness of intellect or superiority of spirituality or morality qualifies one for the higher caste and therefore a more enjoyable lifestyle...as opposed to the lifestyle of say....an untouchable?

Care to comment on this venusdeindia?

Just to clear this up in your mind venusdeindia:

I don't sneak around anywhere and most certainly I don't sneak around to other forums to take potshots at people I do not agree with...or who are not present in the conversation on whatever thread I happen to visit...rarely visit.

Mannu, I should have seen immediately you were unfocused. Your opening post on this thread was scatterbrained, to put it in it's best light. Problem with talking with those who don't have their sh****t together is that they ramble all over the pasture and can't stick to any one subject/thought long enough to form a coherent response to what ever is at issue.

What does come through loud and clear however is your contempt for the United States. In that Mannu, you know what you can stuff, you know where you can stuff it and if you're in doubt about when to stuff it, the time is now.

Hi Pid, have we ever discussed the value system before? Rather, I guess I should say the concept that all actions have the same value of Zero (0). No good, no evil, no right, no wrong...all actions being equal.

I saw this concept had crept into this thread and couln't remember if we ever discussed it before.

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posted December 20, 2007 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi jwhop,

No, I don't think we've discussed the value system. I am interesting in learning more.. do tell

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ur begging days are over PID,
just log into the biased thread from ur intellectual friend who knows the horrors of the caste system becoz he has experienced it first hand and having lived in India for a 100 years is the best source on the subject

btw, PID, if u can LMAO one american citizen for making an assault at another citizens personal spiritual practice , what stops u from LMAO- ing the latter when he returns the favor ?


"jwhop.. LMAO.. you kick butt!"


"Mannu,
Why bring in a "Jewish Master or God" and tie it into Republican's?"

some hypocritical diatribe THAT
talk about rac..........ego defences clouding judgement


here is something from Fayte's thread to give U the opportunity of saying " So what ? "

Christianity- "The belief that a medieval Jewish Zombie died for something that is inside U, becoz a rib - woman ate an apple at the advice of a talking serpent.Makes perfect sense "

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that is if one is not among the higher castes?

And, exactly what goodness of character, splendidness of intellect or superiority of spirituality or morality qualifies one for the higher caste and therefore a more enjoyable lifestyle...as opposed to the lifestyle of say....an untouchable?

"

r y Slyvia Browne picking up my caste from across the globe.

I BELONG TO NO CASTE
there is no caste system in my religion or community


it was a system that existed before India was a DEMOCRACY
SINCE THEN IT DOES NOT EXIST
PERIOD

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Hmmmm? You make point after point yet can't deal with information concerning someone you referenced? You make me laugh. LOL... I hope venus made room for you on his crazy train. LMAO..

'

try to read my post disowning OSHO
really
mannu was right this is Kindergarten

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And, exactly what goodness of character, splendidness of intellect or superiority of spirituality or morality qualifies one for the higher caste and therefore a more enjoyable lifestyle...as opposed to the lifestyle of say....an untouchable?
"

thsi u ask after i post the constitutional reservations granted to economically backward Lower castes
here is ur selective amnesia straight from ur thread >>>

EVOLUTION OF RESERVATIONS*

By: N. Manohara Prasad

source:http://www.dalitindia.org/reservation/RsEvo.htm

India appears to be the only State, to have Committed the Nation Constitutionally, to Social Justice and Reservations. That important was Social Justice, to the Founding Fathers of the Nation, and equally so to the Framers of the Constitution. It still is as it was in the 40s, and will be even so for a long time to go. For, this is a Nation of Contradictions, with a very long and continuous history of Exploitations, tradition of Oppressions, millenniums of Socio-Economic Slavery, and a totally silent and long drawn continuum of unspoken Apartheid, that won’t yield and loosen its grips so easily or by anyway early.

The Preamble of the Constitution of India, apart from Speaking about the universal liberal concepts of Liberty, Equality and Fraternity, promises Justice – Justice Social, Economic and Political to all ….

No other Country, and no Constitution has so specifically and that explicitly provided for Social Justice, that too right in the Preamble. Then, in the Chapter on Fundamental Rights, very specific Provisions have been made for Reservations. That is also further reaffirmed, in many other Provisions elsewhere in the Constitution. And, India is the only Nation with specific Reservations in the Elections to the Parliament, to specific Groups of People – the SCs&STs.

Reservations, have a long history in this Country.

AWAKENING OF THE BACKWARD CLASSES

Jyothibha Phule was the unique and first individual to observe the socio-economic and cultural exploitations and marginalisation of large sections of the People by the State and its Rulers, spoken against them publicly and openly, and sought a Change. He was thus a great Pioneer in the Country. And he sought for all and every Section of People, their Shares in Education, Benefits derived and flowing out of State Funds, and in the Affairs of the State.

Mahatma Phule pointed to the irrational expenditures from the Public Exchequer, in maintaining Temples and Feeding the lazy parasitic stupid brahmins, leaving almost nothing for the Welfare and the Good or Development of the People.

Mahatma Phule went ahead, to start his own Schools for non-brahmins and girls. Thus he sowed the seeds of Education for all and particularly to Girls and Women.

RESERVATIONS IN THE THEN MADRAS PRESIDENCY, AND THE PRINCELY STATES LIKE MYSORE AND KOLHAPUR

1. THE PRINCELY STATE OF KOLHAPUR

As a Result of Jyothibha Phule’s Works, Reservations were Introduced in 1902, in the State of Kolhapur, by the then King – Sahu Maharaj, though his Cabinet Protested.

The brahmins like Tilak, claiming themselves to be Social and Political Leaders, and going around, arrogantly behaving calling themselves to be the Indian Bourgeoisie, protested. Sahu Maharaj pointed out to them, the need necessity and States Responsibility to Develop the Backward Communities, especially the Criminal Tribes like the Baeds, Nayaks, Pindars, who considered killing one Tilak Bearer, was equal to the Good Deed of Feeding Hundred People!

Reservations were then introduced, in the neighbouring States of Mysore, Madras and Bombay Presidency, and also in Cochin and Trivandrum. Those Reservations were the Reasons for the overall Development, Literacy, Education, Efficiency, and Economic Progress of the Southern States.

2. PRINCELY STATE OF MYSORE

The History and Evolution of Reservations in the Princely State of Mysore, is interesting. Reservations in the State in Independent India, and Post State Reorganisation Karnataka had seen many the ups and downs and Road Blocks, and in the process contributed to the evolving future of Social Justice in the Country and World!

British took over the Reins of the State of Mysore, in 1831, after the Fall of Tippu Sultan in Srirangapatnam. British ruled Mysore directly, till 1881. A Representative Assembly was Constituted for the Mysore State, after Rendition of the State to the King. That was the first State Assembly and Legislative in the Country.

After the Rendition of the State of Mysore to the King, a Dewan was Appointed to Assist the Mysore King. It so happened that all the Dewans appointed in the initial years were only from the then larger Madras Presidency – Tamil or Telugu brahmins. That was naturally an irritant, and the Mysore brahmins, resented that domination of the brahmins from Madras Presidency, in the affairs of the Princely Mysore State everywhere – in the Services, Appointments, and Education. The Tamil and Telugu brahmins were there everywhere, especially in Maharaja’s College, Mysore.

The Maharaja of Mysore, in 1910, conceded the Demands of Mysore brahmins, and Appointed Visweshvaraiya a brahmin Engineer of Mysore, as the first Dewan from Mysore. This in turn opened the gates of domination by the Mysore brahmins – 100% in higher services, and 82% in all jobs.

Representations to the Mysore brahmins, their growth and domination in all the State Services and Education, gave raise to strong Voices of Protest by many of the then Backward Classes, and Claims for Reservation to BCs. The Lingayats, Muslims, Mudaliars, Veera Saivas and Vokkaligas were in the forefront of the Demand for such Reservations. In fact, they Demanded an end to all brahmin Monopoly.

Important Backward Castes, had in fact, started in 1905 Veera Saiva Education Society, and their Mutts opened their Schools; and in 1906 Vokkaliga Sangha started their own Schools and Hostels. The King also ordered opening of Non-Vegetarian Messes in Govt Colleges and Hostels. This small step, went to a long extent in greatly helping the meat eating backward classes to have higher education.

Having conceded the demands of Mysore brahmins for Representation in Services, and Appointment of Visweshvaraiya as Diwan, the King saw no Reason in denying the Demands, and refusing Reservations to Backward Classes. The King, in 1918 Appointed Millers Committee, headed by Mr Miller, Chief Justice of the High Court of Mysore to look into the Claims of BCs. In protest, Vishwesvaraiya resigned from his position as Dewan. Miller after examining the Demands of BCs, in his Report submitted in 1919, Recommended Reservations for the BCs.

CJ Miller Recommended –

1. Seventy-five percent Reservations

2. Time Bound Target to Achieve at least 50% share of Jobs to BCs!

3. Appointments not on the basis of Marks, but on the crucially important Characteristics of Sincerity, Honesty, Courage and Compassion

4. Fellowships and Scholarships for BC Students

5. Free Sites and Land grants for Schools and Hostels

The Maharaja agreed with the Chief Justice Miller, and provided Reservations for the BCs. The BCs in Mysore then meant, everyone other than the BAEs – brahmins, Anglo-Indians and Europeans. Muslims also got the Reservations. And the Reservations provided for the Muslims in Mysore, continues in Karnataka till date, though it is made to appear a very big Controversial Issue, elsewhere in other States in the Country today.

The Reservations for BCs so upset the brahmins, that even the Representative of Mysore brahmins Vishwesvaraiya, in Protest, resigned and left his Office of Dewan of Mysore.

The Reservations for the Backward Classes, brought about considerable changes in the social fabric of the then Mysore State. It rightly loosened the Grips of the brahmins, to a considerable extent. But, it sadly benefited powerful backward classes like the Vokkaligas, who took large and undue benefits from the Reservations for the BCs. Added to that, in the Name of Economic Backwardness, influential brahmin communities with the right connections, and powerful BCs with good contacts and better influences forged ahead, particularly during the Decades of Planned Developments, after Independence. These distorted and skewed Developments, created a lot of Social Unrest in the State with the Most Backward Classes, demanding Justice.

With Reorganisation of the States in 1956, Karnataka was formed by amalgamating the Five different Regions of Kodagu, Madras Karnataka, Hyderabad Karnataka, and Bombay Karnataka with the old Princely Mysore State. That required many Administrative Adjustments. Those, and other Interventions of the Courts like that in Balaji Case Judgement, had badly and sadly derailed the journey towards Social Justice, and stalled the overall Development of an Equitable and Egalitarian Society in Karnataka.

The Chief Minister of Karnataka, Devraj Urs in 1972, constituted the first Backward Classes Commission – Havanur Commission.

Havanur Commission had Judicial Powers, to –

1. call and summon anyone and take evidence

2. examine any document

Havanur submitted the Commission’s Report in 1975, and said that Reservation –

1. is not for full Employment

2. is not a Programme to Abolish Poverty

Havanur Commission said that, the only Objective of Reservation is to Provide Representations to Backward Classes, for ensuring Participation and achieving Equality between Castes, and providing Jobs for all the Communities and Castes.

If the Royal Millers Committee of Princely State of Mysore, headed by the Chief Justice was the first in a State, Havanur Commission had clearly brought out, stated, and established the basis and foundations, on which are laid out the Principles, on which the entire edifice of Reservations Raise!

3. MADRAS PRESIDENCY

Mahatma Jyothibha Phule’s Pioneering Work, had its impact beyond his State, and created Waves of Ripples all over the Country, particularly in the Southern States and the adjoining Bombay Presidency.

The Non-brahmin Movement in the Madras Presidency, grew into a very big powerful Social and Political Force. The Non-brahmin Movement in the Madras Presidency, was then spearheaded by the Justice Party of Madras Presidency. They were all along agitating against the brahmin Domination in the State. Realising the Monopoly of the brahmins in Education and Jobs under the British Rule, they started to Demand for the Shares of Non-brahmins in Education and Jobs.

The Works of Justice Party of Madras Presidency, had its wide impact on the People. Hence, when the Provincial Elections were held in the Country, it was the Justice Party that won the Elections in Madras Presidency.

The Madras Presidency, then spanned virtually the whole of Southern India – covering many parts of the present day Kerala and Karnataka, almost the whole of the present State of Tamil Nadu, most Parts of Andhra’s Rayala Seema Area and the whole of the Coastal Area then stretching into the present day Orissa up to Berhampur.

The Justice Party, which won the Elections in Madras Presidency, assumed Power of Provincial Governance in the Presidency, on 17th December 1920. Making use of the Political and Administrative Power of Governance in their hands, the Justice Party issued a GO No 613 on 16th September 1921. That GO of Madras, popularly known as the Madras Communal GO, apportioned all available Opportunities – full 100 Percent, under the Control of the Provincial Government, amongst all the identified Block of Communities. The No of Jobs and Percentage of the Share apportioned, to the identified Communities, in a block of 12 Jobs were –

1. Non-brahmin hindus 5 Opportunities 44 Percent

2. The brahmins 2 Opportunities 16 Percent

3. Muslims 2 Opportunities 16 Percent

4. Anglo-Indians and - -

Christians

5. Depressed Castes (SCs) 1 Opportunity 8 Percent

Total Jobs 12 Opportunities 100 Percent

One can see that the brahmins got an high percentage of Opportunities – 16%, but were definitely confined to only 2 out of 12 Jobs, or one sixth of the Opportunities. That was naturally, very strongly resented by the predatory brahmins, and the Implementation of the GO was effectively blocked by them from being enforced. However, they had to ultimately yield later, and the GO was enforced in 1929. Implementation of this Roster of Opportunities during the 30s and 40s, opened up the Gates of Opportunities to many Non-brahmin Communities, but sadly resulted in a few dominant non-brahmin castes with wealth riches facilities advantages and their own powers, monopolising most of the Opportunities of Education and Jobs, for the Non-brahmin hindus.

Periyar EV Ramasamy Naicker, or Periyar EV Ramasamy, popularly known as EVeyRa, or EVR or Periyar, or Periyar EVR, or as EVR Periyar highlighted this new monopoly, and made a powerful Demand to allocate separate Share to the hindu Backward Castes. At last, in 1947, during the Time of the then Premier of the Madras Presidency – Omandur P Ramasamy Reddy, a friend of EVR Periyar, who held Periyar in high Esteem and Regard, Periyar EVR had his way.

A new Communal GO was issued in 1947, apportioning all the Positions afresh, in a Block of 14 Positions, to Six Categories of identified Communities –

1. Non-brahmin hindus 6 Positions 44 Percent

2. Backward Caste hindus 2 Positions 14 Percent

3. The brahmins 2 Positions 14 Percent

4. Depressed Castes (SCs) 2 Positions 14 Percent

5. Anglo-Indians and 1 Position 7 Percent

Christians

6. Muslims 1 Position 7 Percent

Total Jobs 14 Positions 100 Percent

Then also, it could be seen that, the brahmins got an high percentage of Opportunities – 14%, and they along with the Non-brahmin hindus, as a block of DCHs got away with a very high 58 % – 14 plus 44 percent. But they were all confined to only 8 Positions, 2+6 Positions out of 14 Positions, or more than half of the available Opportunities. Now it is the same 2% brahmins and their other 7 % DCH Friends and Lawyers, who are protesting and fighting against Reservations, particularly that for the OBCs, and demanding an unreasonable Cap of 50% to all Reservations. So unjust unreasonable and intolerable are the brahmins and the DCHs.

It was that Communal GO, which saw some SCs adorn High Offices and Positions, such as the Mayors of the Corporation of Madras, and in many other Important Positions, in the then Madras Presidency.

It was that same GO, which was Challenged in the Champagam vs State of Madras, and was Struck Down by the High Court of Madras, and the same negation was also upheld by the
Apex Court
in Delhi. The Case was that, a Girl named Champagam could not get a Medical Seat to get Admission in a Medical College for a MBBS Course in the State of Madras.

Interestingly, the Case Champagam vs State of Madras, was not filed by the concerned girl Champagam at all. But, it was done by the intolerant brahmin communities. It was that Intolerance of the brahmin communities, the brahmin leaders, the brahmin advocates and lawyers, the brahmin courts, and the brahmin judges, which Resulted in the First Constitutional Amendment, right in the Year 1951 itself. That, to the Constitution of India, adopted so solemnly with lots of Promises to the People of India, only on the 26th November 1949, and brought into right effect and Force wef 26th January 1950. Thus we see a clear pattern and sequence, in the series of brahmin intolerances, chain of subversive activities, and brahmanic sabotage against all the Social Development, Educational Progress, and Economic Growth of the Nation. Then, there can be no Doubt for the overall Backwardness of the Country.

Here we must also Note that, a similar Problem of a DCH handicapped MBBS Doctor, not Managing an Admission to an MD Course of Studies in Gujarat, triggered the Caste and anti-Reservation Protests in Gujarat, and other neighbouring States in the Eighties.

Those Anti-Reservation Protests ended, only with the shock waves produced by Meenakshipuram Conversions in Tamil Nadu, where a Couple of Families, both Men Women and Children, fed up with the caste hindu intolerance oppression and atrocities converted themselves to Islam, and became free Muslims. That, in fact reportedly spurred the then Prime Minister of India, Mrs Indira Gandhi, who had earlier empathised openly with the DCH Doctor, and the anti-Reservation Agitation; and had reportedly observed that Reservation is a Crutch, and that it had gone too far; to wakeup, and get into action. Thus, the then Prime Minister of India, Mrs Indira Gandhi, was forced to come out, at least in the Public, on to the sides of SCs and STs, and stand behind the Reservations for SCs&STs. Not only that, but it is reported that she called up many heads of the Religious Matts to do something for the SC&ST Dalits to keep them trapped within the so called hindu influence and under the brahmin control, and not let them go out towards the Muslims, or even the ways of Baba Saheb Dr BR Ambedkar. She feared that, while the first would strengthen the Pan-Islamic Movement across the World, the later would do more damage in weakening the brahmin power and survival. This had made many hindu religious matts take up some social health and educational programmes for SC&ST Dalits, with State Funds under the cover of promoting Peoples Movements, Voluntary Organisations and NGOs. Sadly that had not only kept the SC&ST Dalits, but many BCs also trapped under the control of brahmins with a dangerous fascist fundamental agenda, specially directed against all Minorities, particularly against the helpless poor Muslims in the Country.

The situation now appears to be very hopeless for the SC&ST Dalits, what with the widening differences between the SC Dalits and ST Dalits; the gaps between significant groups of ST Dalits in different States developing into big gulfs; dangerous cracks appearing amongst various ST Dalit Groups within various States; and the unsavoury rifts between adjacent SC Dalit Groups even in Cities and right in the Work Places, Govt Offices and Educational Institutions. Added to that are the deliberate silent steps taken by the DCH Officials Politicians, Political Parties to weaken Reservations and turn it redundant. Increasing Liberalisation Privatisation, in the name of Globalisation, Opening up of the Economy, and Structural Readjustment; dismantling of PSUs, Banks, Insurance, Industries etc; shrinking Employment in the Public Domain; and restricting Reservations and its Scope with various black negative Orders and Court Decisions.

The above are all big threats no doubt, but are also potential Opportunities to Mobilise and Rally the SC&ST Dalits around Baba Saheb Dr Ambedkar’s Ideology. The present helpless situation offers a big opportunity for the SC&ST Dalits, to realise and rightly understand in full, the brahmin subversions and sabotages. The SC&ST Dalits thus have an opportunity to get enlightened, and free themselves away from the brahmanic controls. Can the SC&ST Dalits then emerge free, with an alternate agenda as a powerful political force on their own, with natural alliances with like minded backward classes like the MBCs and backward marginalised Minorities? In any case the contradictions amongst the DCHs, specially between the brahmins and vaishyas for domination, the competition for wealth between the vaishyas and kshatriyas, the antagonism over share in administration amongst the brhmins and the kayasths are unbridgeable, and are bound to burst out. That would throw out all the SC&ST Dalits, off on their own separate course with the MBCs and Minorities. That is inevitable. How the SC&ST Dalits, MBCs and Minorities are going to manage the Reservations, and the Movement towards Social Justice, Equity to begin with and Equality ultimately, brushing aside the selfish elements amongst themselves, only time will tell!

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Reservations and Competitions

Reservations ensure Competitions. And those who are against Reservations are scared of Reservations. They know pretty well that Reservations will soon end all their unfair Advantages! They are scared of the Competitions Reservations will bring in.

Without Reservations, how can one bring-in real Competitions in Education, Employment, Development, Innovations and Progress? Only Reservations can bring in SC&ST Dalits, carefully kept outside Education, Employment, Recognition and Development, and pit them against all the bogus and false brahmin brats and bitches. Only then, can we bring out the many Ekalavyas publicly into the open, and expose the weaknesses of not only the much media hyped brahmanic Arjuns, and their equally hollow brahmin Teachers like the evil Dronacharya. Had there been something like Reservations to pit against the Arjuns and Dronacharyas over the Ages, we would have had billions of Arjuns and millions and millions of Dronacharyas by now, to talk about, and really be proud of. Not the second rate Arjuna, and condemnable third rate evil individual like the Dronacharya as a model Teacher. What an horrible Model he was? We need not have had to woefully rely on only Arjuna Awards and Dronacharya Awards, and still be left with empty hands, returning with failures again and again, and shameless shame heaped on us always. Or, there would not have been any need to remember, only the second rated or failed Arjuns and Dronacharyas, as our best and the classic greats of all ages and times! Even our Times!!

Lack of any Competition had brought this Country to the present sorry State. Always looking up to the West or to Japan, now even to the Middle-East, South-East and China. Both for fresh products, improved products, new designs, better designs, and lower prices! With protected lives and enjoying without any competitions, the brahmins have been living comfortably amongst themselves, exploiting the poor and the workers, and eating out of the loans, gifts and aids of the West and Japan. They were always looking for designs technology developments and drawings from West and Japan, and Could not design even a small switch or produce a pin on their own. For, the brahmins can not work, and are always unwilling to work. In fact the brahmins do not know how to work, don’t have the mind to work. The brahmins don’t have the willingness to work, or have any knowledge of work. The brahmins neither have the skills to work, nor have the stamina to work.

One can always find a brahmin man or woman asking any individual working – Why are you working? It doesn’t like good! Why don’t you ask anyone else to work? Why don’t you engage someone to do the work? Thus, the brahmins not only shirk work always, but also discourage even others from working. They always look for someone else to do even the minimum of their work. Except for taking food and ablutions, they don’t do anything on their own. They always depend on others to do their work. They wait for others to get their works done, and also for their own personal needs, protection, survival and even food. As a result the brahmanic people have developed a culture that, they need at least a third rate servant, or send for some aid to even water the small plants in the pots, withering in their balconies. Their bodies don’t bend or cooperate, and they don’t have a mind to get up and fetch a pail of water, from the faucet in the nearby kitchen or bathroom. They are that lazy, or consider physical work as inferior. They not only look down at every work and worker, but badly denigrate and exploit the working classes as lesser species, far less than human beings. That is why, we don’t have any work culture, work ethics, or any improvements in skills design and quality of work.

Opposition to Reservations

There is a strong Lobby Opposing Reservations. Naturally they are dominated by brahmins, with most of the rest coming from other brahmanic classes like the DCHs – the dominant caste hindus. There may be some stupid arrogant dominant backward castes also who form part of the Lobby Opposing Reservations. The brahmins oppose Reservations vociferously and publicly because they are asked to, motivated instigated supported and financed by their brahmin and brahmanic elders, press, visual media of cinema, TV Discussions motivated structured Debates focussed News and so on.

The brahmanic brats and bitches under the cover and smokescreen of being students, are in the forefront of all Oppositions to Reservations, only because they want to have and continue to enjoy all that their elders parents and forefathers had stolen from the large numbers of poor small helpless and the weak, and still stealthily shamelessly unfairly unjustly and dishonestly cling to. And they are hopeful that their brahmanic elders in bureaucracy and courts will manage to bring sufficient forces and influences to bear on both the brahmanic politicians and weak-kneed backward and SC&ST Politicians to succumb to Pressure and back out, or provide extra and very undue compensations to them. that is why they come to the streets again and again, against some form of Justice being done to the Weaker Sections through some Reservations. And the brahmins shrewdly see that Reservations if really unleashed freely, will Roll out unstoppable, and Emerge as the Power of Governance. For, Reservation is Really Power and Governance. That is why the resistance and opposition. Power is never shared, allowed to slip out, and never given up. And Governance is never abdicated or given up. And Power and Governance in the hands of SC&ST Dalits, OBCs and Minorities can never be thought of, conceded and accepted.

B. RESERVATIONS IN EDUCATION

Reservations have produced whole lot of Original Thinkers, Eminent Engineers, Great Doctors, New Scientists etc from Weaker Sections.

Reservations in all Educational Institutions are necessary, as Education is for Teaching all People to Learn to Read, Write and New Skills, especially to Teach the Illiterate and Uneducated. Govts should concentrate on Educating the Poor and the Weak, with the best of the Schools. Those who oppose Education to the poor weak and helpless, have no business to come to Govt Institutions, and Talk against Reservations and other Weaker Sections. Education must really be made available for all. Whenever there are Shortage of Seats in Educational Institutions whether in Govt or Private, they must be divided and shared proportionately by every Region and Community in the Society, through appropriate Policies Procedures and Practices like Reservations.

Educational Institutions must actually be accessible only by the local people living and working in the area on a regular basis. Education generally, save for genuine exceptions, shall not be open for outsiders. That will otherwise open the gates to all those selfish and greedy elements, who keep fishing for opportunities to enter anywhere, and take personal private exclusive advantages of what they feel good or better Institutions. That will deny the opportunities hope and future of genuine local poor people, and affect their aspirations progress and future.

Education should never be allowed to be monopolised by any group of Students, Teachers or Communities

Monopoly in any Sector or Sphere of Life is anti-Democratic, anti-People and bode evil to the future of the Nation

Merrit, assumed Merit, conferred Merit, can be allowed to become the smokescreens for domination, appropriation and depriving the proportionate rights shares and dues of all the other Peoples

We need not produce geniuses wanting to prostrate before employers or foreign companies or other Countries, and are ready and willing to work for them

We must always be interested and promote, ordinary citizens compassionate and prepared to work with poor labourers in the Country, and for our ordinary farmers

Those who want to further Education to serve other countries and FMNCs to make more money, let them go to their own private institutions or abroad

Reservations in Education, as is elsewhere, are required as long as evil brahmins don’t change their fraudulent ways of life, and give up their practices of cheating and stealing

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POVERTY ALLEVIATION AND INCOME GENERATING SCHEMES

for

SC, ST, OBC, MINORITIES AND WOMEN

N Manohara Prasad

Govt of India at the Center, took up the task of the Nation as whole, with all seriousness, after Independance. Govt set up a Planning Commission at the Centre, amidst many opposition, resentments and criticisms. The Party in Power, Congress appeared to be fully committed for the Development of the Nation, Welfare of the Society as a whole, and all Sections of the Society. That appeared to be inevitable in a Democracy, and a Republic. Moreover, the Congress Party during the Freedom Movement and after, had been in all Public Statements, championing the cause of the Weaker Sections like the SCs&STs, Minorities, OBCs and Women. And Special Provisions had also been made in the Constitution, for the Development of the Poor and the Weak in the Country. Further, many specific Provisions have been incorporated in the Constitution for the Welfare, Development and Protection of different Weaker Sections of the Society, like SCs, STs, Minorities, OBCs and Women.

The Constitutional Promises and Guarantees, and Legal Protections for the SCs&STs were followed by the Congress Govts, with Reservations in Services. This has helped a good number of them in different regions to participate in different spheres of National Activities, Development, Administration and Governance, where Reservations have been allowed to operate.

The Scientific Socialistic Development and Justice oriented Modern Vision of Jawaharlal Nehru, the first Prime Minister of India, and his choice to go in for Planned Development through Five-Year Plans, laid a great emphasis in Developing all the Weaker Sections. In addition, Special Programmes and Schemes were also taken for the Welfare, Growth and Development of many SCs, STs, Minorities, OBCs and Women from amongst them, as well as other Women. These helped, to improve the standards of the lives of the Weaker Sections, in a Nation where they were otherwise marginalised, neglected and oppressed, depending on the situation.

NEED FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE WEAKER SECTIONS – the SCs STs OBCs and MINORITIES

The SCs STs OBCs and Minorities, have been forced to remain as the Weaker Sections of India, and the Women confined or oppressed to be the most and multiply exploited sections of the Country, for nearly four millenniums. This bad situation, can not and should not continue anymore. Definitely not in the Twenty-first Century of the third millennium, in an age of fast travel and mass communication.

There is a need for the Govts to do something special and tangible, to free and liberate the Weaker Sections, from the cobwebs of oppression, marginalisation and backwardness. They have to be uplifted to the levels of normal human-beings of the World.

THE THEN PRIME MINISTER JAWAHARLAL NEHRU’S VIEWS

The need to Develop the Weaker Sections, and the sensitivity with which appropriate Policies have to be adopted, can be better appreciated by what Jawaharlal Nehru, the then Prime Minister of the Nation, wrote on 9th Oct 1958 regarding Development of the STs.

We can not allow matters to drift in the Tribal Areas, or just not take interest in them. In the World of today, that is not possible or desirable. At the same time, we should avoid over-administrating these areas, and in particular, sending too many outsiders into Tribal Territory.

It is between these two extreme positions that we have to function. Development in various ways there has to be, such as communications, medical facilities, education and better agriculture. These avenues of Development should, however, be pursued within the broad framework of the following five fundamental principles;

1. People should Develop along the lines of their own genius, and we should avoid imposing anything on them. We should try to Encourage in every way their own Traditional Arts and Culture.

2. Tribal Rights in Land and Forests should be respected

3. We should try to Train and Build up a team of their own people to do the work of Administration and Development. Some technical personnel from outside will, no doubt, be needed, especially in the beginning. But we should avoid introducing too many outsiders into tribal territory

4. We should not over-administer these areas, or overwhelm them with a multiplicity of Schemes. We should rather work through, and not in rivalry to, their own social and cultural institutions

5. We should judge results, not by statistics or the amount of money spent, but by the quality of human character that is evolved.

The above reflects the special sensitivity with which the then Prime Minister, approached the issue of Tribal Development. We should have by now developed adequate strategies for the Development of Scheduled Castes, OBCs, Minorities and Women. Special Strategies should have been evolved for the Women from SCs&STs, OBCs and Minority Communities, who suffer the most in the Country. Special steps should have been taken, particularly for the SC&ST Women, who were subjected to multiple exploitations as –

1. poor and helpless people

2. SCs&STs

3. at times as Minority Community SCs&STs, and

4. top of them all as easily vulnerable Women

Sadly, even today there are no special Cells in the Planning Commission even for the 260 million plus SCs&STs. How then can we really hope that, the Weaker Sections of the Country will ever be developed?

The Development of the Weaker Sections have to have a bearing on their Occupation, Problems, Requirements, Needs and Aspirations.

GOVTS’ EFFORTS TO DEVELOP WEAKER SECTIONS

General and overall Developmental Planning in the Country, was launched in 1951, in the form of Five-Year Plans. When the Five-Year Plans could not be finalised due to Political and other Considerations, Annual-plans were adopted. All these Plans, took into consideration the need to Develop the Poor and the Weaker Sections. It kept in view the concerns of the first Prime Minister of India, which was subsequently evolved as the Policy of the Govt and Planning Commission.

The First Five-Year Plan, during the years of 1951-56 believed in Trickle-Down Theory. It envisaged that Programmes under various sectors of Development would benefit all sections of Population including the Weaker Sections of Society. But sadly, this reliance failed and the expectations were belied. Benefits of Development never reached the poor and the weak, for obvious reasons. Hence, Special Programmes for the Backward Classes were formulated, especially and separately under the Backward Classes Sector, with a very Small Backward Class Division in Planning Commission, New Delhi. The Special Requirements of SCs&STs were particularly taken into account.

The Second Plan over the years 1956-61, was formulated with the promise to ensure that, Economic and Social Benefits of National Development would accrue to the Backward Classes also, and to the relatively much marginalised and less privileged SCs&STs. These were expected to bridge the gaps between the dominant castes and the weaker Sections on the one hand, and lift the neglected SCs&STs at least to near the levels of the Other Backward Classes. The important component of the Second Plan, were separate Tribal Development Plans, with respect and understanding of their Culture and Traditions. This was based on the Philosophy of Panchsheel for Tribal Area Administration and Development enunciated by the first Prime Minister of the Nation. During the Plan, 43 Special Multi-Purpose Tribal Blocks were opened, which later became Tribal development Blocks for about 25,000 Tribals as against the normal 65,000 per Block.

The Third Plan of the Years 1961-66 and the three Annual Plans during 1966-69, advocated Greater Equality of Opportunities, and reduction in the Economic Disparities and differences in Income and Wealth in the Society. Its thrust was towards even distribution of wealth, reduction of inequalities in the community, and levelling up the economic power of most sections of the society.

The Fourth Plan of 1969-74 envisaged, the Basic Goal of Rapid Increase in the Standard of Living of the People, through measures which also Promoted Equality and Social Justice. In 1971-71, six pilot-projects were set up in Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Madhya Pradesh and Orissa, with a separate Tribal Development Agency for each Project.

The Fifth Plan during the Years 1974-79, was a watershed for the STs. In the Year 1975-76, Tribal Sub-Plan was launched, by keeping aside Plan Funds for the Development Scheduled Tribe Areas with exclusive allocations for specific and separate Programmes and Schemes for STs Welfare and Development. This approach, and its success was appropriately copied and adopted for the Welfare of SCs in the subsequent Plans.

The Annual Plan of 1979-80, saw the launching of the Special Component Plan for SCs so that they could also receive their due share of Plan Allocations and Benefits of Development from various Developmental Sectors. This facilitated convergence and pooling of available resources and Plan Allocations from every Sector to Develop the SCs in proportion to the SC Population in the Society.

The Sixth Plan 1980-85 continued with the SCP for SCs which became a significant feature of the Five-Year Plans, along with TSP for the STs. These facilitated monitoring and evaluation of the Development of both SCs and STs.

The Seventh Plan 1985-90, saw the strengthening of SCP and TSP, with the flow of funds from the State Plans, Central Plans and Special Central Assistance (SCA) and Institutional Finance, facilitating enlargement of infrastructures and expansion of their coverage to benefit more SCs&STs. In 1989, National SC&ST Finance Development Corporation (NSFDC) to provide loans to SCs&STs for taking up gainful and profitable self-employment productive activities, and business was established.

The Eighth Plan 1992-97, aimed at bridging the gap between the Development of the Weaker Sections and others, by the beginning of the Twenty-first Century.

The Ninth Plan 1997-2002 was said would Empower the Socially Disadvantaged Groups to become agents of Change and Development by themselves. It was expected to create an enabling Environment Conducive for SCs&STs, Minorities and OBCs to exercise their rights freely to enjoy all privileges, and lead a life with confidence and dignity at par with the rest of the society. Disparities were to be removed, exploitation and suppression eliminated, protection provided to the disadvantaged groups of Weaker Sections, such that benefits of Development would reach the unreached through Equitable Distribution and Social Justice. These it was said would facilitate the weaker sections not merely as beneficiaries but also as participants in the Planning and Implementation of the Developmental Process. It was expected that funds would also flow to Women of the Weaker Sections, for their Development.

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DEVELOPMENT OF SCHEDULED CASTES AND SCHEDULED TRIBES

The basic need of the SCs&STs was to end their forced Segregation by the Caste System. The best Strategy that could be considered was Reservations for SCs&STs. Reserving the dues of SCs&STs to SCs&STs, was the only way to ensure their proportionate share in all walks of life. As a result of Baba Saheb’s Struggles, and his demands in the First and Second Round Table Conferences in 1930-32, the British agreed to provide some Reservations.

RESERVATIONS AVAILABLE

Today Reservations for the SCs&STs are available in –

1. Political Reservations in Parliament (Lower House of the People - Lok Sabha) and the State and UT Legislative Assemblies (Lower House of the People)

2. Reservations in Employment

3. Reservations in Education

4. Reservations for Economic Development

5. Some Reservations in Housing

POLITICAL RESERVATIONS for SCs&STs

Of these only Political Reservations, though time-bound are compulsory and inescapable, being a firm Constitutional Provision. This opened the way for the SCs&STs to participate in the Governance of the Country, directly to some extent possible, and force the Govts to take the Problems of SCs&STs seriously, and Plan for their Welfare and Development.

However, there are no Reservations for SCs in the Upper Houses in the Centre and the States. As a result, the Representation of SCs&STs in the Upper Houses are still poor. There is a need to introduce Reservations for SCs&STs in Rajya Sabha in Parliament, and Legislative Councils in the States.

RESERVATION IN EMPLOYMENT FOR SCs&STs

and to OBCs at the time of making Appointments.

Reservation in Employment, though without any time-limit, is only an enabling Provision in the Constitution, that also in Public Services. It is therefore left to the discretion of the Bureaucrats, Governments, Parliament and Legislative Assemblies. This was the Most Effective Programme for the Development of SC&ST Communities.

Reservation in Employment is a means for Community Participation in the Governance of the Country through Administration, its Executive Functions, and Decision making roles for day to day business of the Govts. It should not be - as it is often prone to – mixed with the Development of any Individual or family. It should not be seen just as a means of Employment, for getting a respectable and regular income as wages pay and allowances or salary every month. Yes, Employment of the Individuals are incidental to reservations in services. From 1990, Reservations for OBCs at the time of making Appointments had been introduced. It was challenged vehemently in all Political Fora, in every possible manner in Society, in the educational Institutions, and in the Streets. Hence the Govt of India, mad compensatory Reservations in favour of the poor amongst the dominant castes. In spite of this, the decision of the Govt in introducing Reservations for the OBCs in the matters of Appointments was challenged in the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court finally in its Judgement in 1992, upheld the Reservations for OBCs, at the time of making Appointments. But, they set aside the compensatory Reservations for the Poor amongst all other Dominant Sections of the Society.

Employment of an individual, is the best and direct method of Developing the Individual, family, the larger family associated with the person to a large extent, and the section and area of the community from where the individual hails, to a certain extent. For, it helps to provide a decent and regular income over a period of 30 to 40 years, depending upon the age of the individual at the time of recruitment and employment, and type of job employment and retirement age. And it provides encouragement, facilitates guidance and incentives for others around to study and seek better and higher employment. Therefore, it is suggested that SC&ST Institutions, should directly employ SCs&STs as much as possible, as it is in the case of other Minority Institutions.

AVAILABLE PROGRAMMES AND SCHEMES

Govt has come up, from time to time, with a number of Schemes and Programmes for the Weaker Sections. They are –

LONG-TERM PROGRAMMES

1. Education

a) Special Schools for STs, SCs, Minorities and Girl Children

b) Residential and Ashram Schools

c) Freeships, Scholarships, Fellowships and Bank Loans at Low Interest

d) Girls’ Hostels for STs, SCs, OBCs and Minorities

e) Colleges and Hostels for Women

f) Working Women’s Hostels

2. Distribution of Surplus Land to SCs&STs

3. Reservation in Education

4. Reservation in Jobs for SCs&STs and OBCs

5. Reservations in Job Promotions for SCs&STs

SHORT-TERM PROGRAMMES

1. Bank-Loans for Higher Education

2. Creation of Community Assets

3. Infrastructure Building

POVERTY ALLEVIATION PROGRAMMES

1. Integrated Rural Development Programme (IRDP)

2. Drought Prone Areas Programme (DPAP)

3. Multi-Purpose Tribal Development Blocks

4. Jawahar Gram Samridhi Yojna (JGSY)

5. Pradhan Mantri Gramodaya Yojana 2000-01 (PMGY)

6. Pradhan Mantri Gramodaya Yojana – Gramin Awas (PMGY – Gramin Awas)

7. Pradhan Mantri Gramodaya Yojana – Rural Drinking Water Project (PMGY- RDWP)

8. Pradhan Mantri Gram Sadak Yojana 2000 (PMGSY)

9. Antyodaya Anna Yojana 20001 (AAY)

10. Annapurna 2000

11. Indira Awass Yojana (IAY)

12. Valmiki Ambedkar Awas Yojana 2001 (VAMBAY)

INCOME GENERATING SCHEMES

1. National Rural Employment Programme (NREP)

2. Rural Landless Employment Guarantee Programme (RLEGP)

3. Training of Rural Youth for Self-Employment (TRYSEM)

4. Village and Small Industries (VSL)

5. Minimum Needs Programme (MNP)

6. Employment Assurance Scheme (EAS)

7. Swarnajayanti Gram Swarozgar Yojana 1999 (SGSY)

8. Sampoorna Grameen Rozgar Yojna 2001 (SGRY with EAS and JGSY integrated)

9. Jai Prakash Rozgar Guarantee Yojana (JPRGY)

10. Swarna Jayanti Shahari Rozgar Yojana (SJSRY)

GAPS IN THE IMPLEMENTATION of PAP and IGS

Though there are multiple numbers of Poverty Alleviation Programmes, and Income Generating Programmes, in reality they are parts of the original Community Development Programmes, conceived and taken up immediately after Independence. That had been muted modified renamed or separated from the original main scheme, to make them appear new. This, just to fool the people. Sometimes, few old ones have been clubbed together, under a new name, or merged together as a new programme. All these are really confusing, to even the educated. The poor Weaker Sections are therefore totally confused, and are totally at the mercy of the Block and District Level Officials, especially those in the Rural Areas.

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Reservations and Competitions

Reservations ensure Competitions. And those who are against Reservations are scared of Reservations. They know pretty well that Reservations will soon end all their unfair Advantages! They are scared of the Competitions Reservations will bring in.

Without Reservations, how can one bring-in real Competitions in Education, Employment, Development, Innovations and Progress? Only Reservations can bring in SC&ST Dalits, carefully kept outside Education, Employment, Recognition and Development, and pit them against all the bogus and false brahmin brats and bitches. Only then, can we bring out the many Ekalavyas publicly into the open, and expose the weaknesses of not only the much media hyped brahmanic Arjuns, and their equally hollow brahmin Teachers like the evil Dronacharya. Had there been something like Reservations to pit against the Arjuns and Dronacharyas over the Ages, we would have had billions of Arjuns and millions and millions of Dronacharyas by now, to talk about, and really be proud of. Not the second rate Arjuna, and condemnable third rate evil individual like the Dronacharya as a model Teacher. What an horrible Model he was? We need not have had to woefully rely on only Arjuna Awards and Dronacharya Awards, and still be left with empty hands, returning with failures again and again, and shameless shame heaped on us always. Or, there would not have been any need to remember, only the second rated or failed Arjuns and Dronacharyas, as our best and the classic greats of all ages and times! Even our Times!!

Lack of any Competition had brought this Country to the present sorry State. Always looking up to the West or to Japan, now even to the Middle-East, South-East and China. Both for fresh products, improved products, new designs, better designs, and lower prices! With protected lives and enjoying without any competitions, the brahmins have been living comfortably amongst themselves, exploiting the poor and the workers, and eating out of the loans, gifts and aids of the West and Japan. They were always looking for designs technology developments and drawings from West and Japan, and Could not design even a small switch or produce a pin on their own. For, the brahmins can not work, and are always unwilling to work. In fact the brahmins do not know how to work, don’t have the mind to work. The brahmins don’t have the willingness to work, or have any knowledge of work. The brahmins neither have the skills to work, nor have the stamina to work.

One can always find a brahmin man or woman asking any individual working – Why are you working? It doesn’t like good! Why don’t you ask anyone else to work? Why don’t you engage someone to do the work? Thus, the brahmins not only shirk work always, but also discourage even others from working. They always look for someone else to do even the minimum of their work. Except for taking food and ablutions, they don’t do anything on their own. They always depend on others to do their work. They wait for others to get their works done, and also for their own personal needs, protection, survival and even food. As a result the brahmanic people have developed a culture that, they need at least a third rate servant, or send for some aid to even water the small plants in the pots, withering in their balconies. Their bodies don’t bend or cooperate, and they don’t have a mind to get up and fetch a pail of water, from the faucet in the nearby kitchen or bathroom. They are that lazy, or consider physical work as inferior. They not only look down at every work and worker, but badly denigrate and exploit the working classes as lesser species, far less than human beings. That is why, we don’t have any work culture, work ethics, or any improvements in skills design and quality of work.

Opposition to Reservations

There is a strong Lobby Opposing Reservations. Naturally they are dominated by brahmins, with most of the rest coming from other brahmanic classes like the DCHs – the dominant caste hindus. There may be some stupid arrogant dominant backward castes also who form part of the Lobby Opposing Reservations. The brahmins oppose Reservations vociferously and publicly because they are asked to, motivated instigated supported and financed by their brahmin and brahmanic elders, press, visual media of cinema, TV Discussions motivated structured Debates focussed News and so on.

The brahmanic brats and bitches under the cover and smokescreen of being students, are in the forefront of all Oppositions to Reservations, only because they want to have and continue to enjoy all that their elders parents and forefathers had stolen from the large numbers of poor small helpless and the weak, and still stealthily shamelessly unfairly unjustly and dishonestly cling to. And they are hopeful that their brahmanic elders in bureaucracy and courts will manage to bring sufficient forces and influences to bear on both the brahmanic politicians and weak-kneed backward and SC&ST Politicians to succumb to Pressure and back out, or provide extra and very undue compensations to them. that is why they come to the streets again and again, against some form of Justice being done to the Weaker Sections through some Reservations. And the brahmins shrewdly see that Reservations if really unleashed freely, will Roll out unstoppable, and Emerge as the Power of Governance. For, Reservation is Really Power and Governance. That is why the resistance and opposition. Power is never shared, allowed to slip out, and never given up. And Governance is never abdicated or given up. And Power and Governance in the hands of SC&ST Dalits, OBCs and Minorities can never be thought of, conceded and accepted.

B. RESERVATIONS IN EDUCATION

Reservations have produced whole lot of Original Thinkers, Eminent Engineers, Great Doctors, New Scientists etc from Weaker Sections.

Reservations in all Educational Institutions are necessary, as Education is for Teaching all People to Learn to Read, Write and New Skills, especially to Teach the Illiterate and Uneducated. Govts should concentrate on Educating the Poor and the Weak, with the best of the Schools. Those who oppose Education to the poor weak and helpless, have no business to come to Govt Institutions, and Talk against Reservations and other Weaker Sections. Education must really be made available for all. Whenever there are Shortage of Seats in Educational Institutions whether in Govt or Private, they must be divided and shared proportionately by every Region and Community in the Society, through appropriate Policies Procedures and Practices like Reservations.

Educational Institutions must actually be accessible only by the local people living and working in the area on a regular basis. Education generally, save for genuine exceptions, shall not be open for outsiders. That will otherwise open the gates to all those selfish and greedy elements, who keep fishing for opportunities to enter anywhere, and take personal private exclusive advantages of what they feel good or better Institutions. That will deny the opportunities hope and future of genuine local poor people, and affect their aspirations progress and future.

Education should never be allowed to be monopolised by any group of Students, Teachers or Communities

Monopoly in any Sector or Sphere of Life is anti-Democratic, anti-People and bode evil to the future of the Nation

Merrit, assumed Merit, conferred Merit, can be allowed to become the smokescreens for domination, appropriation and depriving the proportionate rights shares and dues of all the other Peoples

We need not produce geniuses wanting to prostrate before employers or foreign companies or other Countries, and are ready and willing to work for them

We must always be interested and promote, ordinary citizens compassionate and prepared to work with poor labourers in the Country, and for our ordinary farmers

Those who want to further Education to serve other countries and FMNCs to make more money, let them go to their own private institutions or abroad

Reservations in Education, as is elsewhere, are required as long as evil brahmins don’t change their fraudulent ways of life, and give up their practices of cheating and stealing

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POVERTY ALLEVIATION AND INCOME GENERATING SCHEMES

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SC, ST, OBC, MINORITIES AND WOMEN

N Manohara Prasad

Govt of India at the Center, took up the task of the Nation as whole, with all seriousness, after Independance. Govt set up a Planning Commission at the Centre, amidst many opposition, resentments and criticisms. The Party in Power, Congress appeared to be fully committed for the Development of the Nation, Welfare of the Society as a whole, and all Sections of the Society. That appeared to be inevitable in a Democracy, and a Republic. Moreover, the Congress Party during the Freedom Movement and after, had been in all Public Statements, championing the cause of the Weaker Sections like the SCs&STs, Minorities, OBCs and Women. And Special Provisions had also been made in the Constitution, for the Development of the Poor and the Weak in the Country. Further, many specific Provisions have been incorporated in the Constitution for the Welfare, Development and Protection of different Weaker Sections of the Society, like SCs, STs, Minorities, OBCs and Women.

The Constitutional Promises and Guarantees, and Legal Protections for the SCs&STs were followed by the Congress Govts, with Reservations in Services. This has helped a good number of them in different regions to participate in different spheres of National Activities, Development, Administration and Governance, where Reservations have been allowed to operate.

The Scientific Socialistic Development and Justice oriented Modern Vision of Jawaharlal Nehru, the first Prime Minister of India, and his choice to go in for Planned Development through Five-Year Plans, laid a great emphasis in Developing all the Weaker Sections. In addition, Special Programmes and Schemes were also taken for the Welfare, Growth and Development of many SCs, STs, Minorities, OBCs and Women from amongst them, as well as other Women. These helped, to improve the standards of the lives of the Weaker Sections, in a Nation where they were otherwise marginalised, neglected and oppressed, depending on the situation.

NEED FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE WEAKER SECTIONS – the SCs STs OBCs and MINORITIES

The SCs STs OBCs and Minorities, have been forced to remain as the Weaker Sections of India, and the Women confined or oppressed to be the most and multiply exploited sections of the Country, for nearly four millenniums. This bad situation, can not and should not continue anymore. Definitely not in the Twenty-first Century of the third millennium, in an age of fast travel and mass communication.

There is a need for the Govts to do something special and tangible, to free and liberate the Weaker Sections, from the cobwebs of oppression, marginalisation and backwardness. They have to be uplifted to the levels of normal human-beings of the World.

THE THEN PRIME MINISTER JAWAHARLAL NEHRU’S VIEWS

The need to Develop the Weaker Sections, and the sensitivity with which appropriate Policies have to be adopted, can be better appreciated by what Jawaharlal Nehru, the then Prime Minister of the Nation, wrote on 9th Oct 1958 regarding Development of the STs.

We can not allow matters to drift in the Tribal Areas, or just not take interest in them. In the World of today, that is not possible or desirable. At the same time, we should avoid over-administrating these areas, and in particular, sending too many outsiders into Tribal Territory.

It is between these two extreme positions that we have to function. Development in various ways there has to be, such as communications, medical facilities, education and better agriculture. These avenues of Development should, however, be pursued within the broad framework of the following five fundamental principles;

1. People should Develop along the lines of their own genius, and we should avoid imposing anything on them. We should try to Encourage in every way their own Traditional Arts and Culture.

2. Tribal Rights in Land and Forests should be respected

3. We should try to Train and Build up a team of their own people to do the work of Administration and Development. Some technical personnel from outside will, no doubt, be needed, especially in the beginning. But we should avoid introducing too many outsiders into tribal territory

4. We should not over-administer these areas, or overwhelm them with a multiplicity of Schemes. We should rather work through, and not in rivalry to, their own social and cultural institutions

5. We should judge results, not by statistics or the amount of money spent, but by the quality of human character that is evolved.

The above reflects the special sensitivity with which the then Prime Minister, approached the issue of Tribal Development. We should have by now developed adequate strategies for the Development of Scheduled Castes, OBCs, Minorities and Women. Special Strategies should have been evolved for the Women from SCs&STs, OBCs and Minority Communities, who suffer the most in the Country. Special steps should have been taken, particularly for the SC&ST Women, who were subjected to multiple exploitations as –

1. poor and helpless people

2. SCs&STs

3. at times as Minority Community SCs&STs, and

4. top of them all as easily vulnerable Women

Sadly, even today there are no special Cells in the Planning Commission even for the 260 million plus SCs&STs. How then can we really hope that, the Weaker Sections of the Country will ever be developed?

The Development of the Weaker Sections have to have a bearing on their Occupation, Problems, Requirements, Needs and Aspirations.

GOVTS’ EFFORTS TO DEVELOP WEAKER SECTIONS

General and overall Developmental Planning in the Country, was launched in 1951, in the form of Five-Year Plans. When the Five-Year Plans could not be finalised due to Political and other Considerations, Annual-plans were adopted. All these Plans, took into consideration the need to Develop the Poor and the Weaker Sections. It kept in view the concerns of the first Prime Minister of India, which was subsequently evolved as the Policy of the Govt and Planning Commission.

The First Five-Year Plan, during the years of 1951-56 believed in Trickle-Down Theory. It envisaged that Programmes under various sectors of Development would benefit all sections of Population including the Weaker Sections of Society. But sadly, this reliance failed and the expectations were belied. Benefits of Development never reached the poor and the weak, for obvious reasons. Hence, Special Programmes for the Backward Classes were formulated, especially and separately under the Backward Classes Sector, with a very Small Backward Class Division in Planning Commission, New Delhi. The Special Requirements of SCs&STs were particularly taken into account.

The Second Plan over the years 1956-61, was formulated with the promise to ensure that, Economic and Social Benefits of National Development would accrue to the Backward Classes also, and to the relatively much marginalised and less privileged SCs&STs. These were expected to bridge the gaps between the dominant castes and the weaker Sections on the one hand, and lift the neglected SCs&STs at least to near the levels of the Other Backward Classes. The important component of the Second Plan, were separate Tribal Development Plans, with respect and understanding of their Culture and Traditions. This was based on the Philosophy of Panchsheel for Tribal Area Administration and Development enunciated by the first Prime Minister of the Nation. During the Plan, 43 Special Multi-Purpose Tribal Blocks were opened, which later became Tribal development Blocks for about 25,000 Tribals as against the normal 65,000 per Block.

The Third Plan of the Years 1961-66 and the three Annual Plans during 1966-69, advocated Greater Equality of Opportunities, and reduction in the Economic Disparities and differences in Income and Wealth in the Society. Its thrust was towards even distribution of wealth, reduction of inequalities in the community, and levelling up the economic power of most sections of the society.

The Fourth Plan of 1969-74 envisaged, the Basic Goal of Rapid Increase in the Standard of Living of the People, through measures which also Promoted Equality and Social Justice. In 1971-71, six pilot-projects were set up in Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Madhya Pradesh and Orissa, with a separate Tribal Development Agency for each Project.

The Fifth Plan during the Years 1974-79, was a watershed for the STs. In the Year 1975-76, Tribal Sub-Plan was launched, by keeping aside Plan Funds for the Development Scheduled Tribe Areas with exclusive allocations for specific and separate Programmes and Schemes for STs Welfare and Development. This approach, and its success was appropriately copied and adopted for the Welfare of SCs in the subsequent Plans.

The Annual Plan of 1979-80, saw the launching of the Special Component Plan for SCs so that they could also receive their due share of Plan Allocations and Benefits of Development from various Developmental Sectors. This facilitated convergence and pooling of available resources and Plan Allocations from every Sector to Develop the SCs in proportion to the SC Population in the Society.

The Sixth Plan 1980-85 continued with the SCP for SCs which became a significant feature of the Five-Year Plans, along with TSP for the STs. These facilitated monitoring and evaluation of the Development of both SCs and STs.

The Seventh Plan 1985-90, saw the strengthening of SCP and TSP, with the flow of funds from the State Plans, Central Plans and Special Central Assistance (SCA) and Institutional Finance, facilitating enlargement of infrastructures and expansion of their coverage to benefit more SCs&STs. In 1989, National SC&ST Finance Development Corporation (NSFDC) to provide loans to SCs&STs for taking up gainful and profitable self-employment productive activities, and business was established.

The Eighth Plan 1992-97, aimed at bridging the gap between the Development of the Weaker Sections and others, by the beginning of the Twenty-first Century.

The Ninth Plan 1997-2002 was said would Empower the Socially Disadvantaged Groups to become agents of Change and Development by themselves. It was expected to create an enabling Environment Conducive for SCs&STs, Minorities and OBCs to exercise their rights freely to enjoy all privileges, and lead a life with confidence and dignity at par with the rest of the society. Disparities were to be removed, exploitation and suppression eliminated, protection provided to the disadvantaged groups of Weaker Sections, such that benefits of Development would reach the unreached through Equitable Distribution and Social Justice. These it was said would facilitate the weaker sections not merely as beneficiaries but also as participants in the Planning and Implementation of the Developmental Process. It was expected that funds would also flow to Women of the Weaker Sections, for their Development.

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DEVELOPMENT OF SCHEDULED CASTES AND SCHEDULED TRIBES

The basic need of the SCs&STs was to end their forced Segregation by the Caste System. The best Strategy that could be considered was Reservations for SCs&STs. Reserving the dues of SCs&STs to SCs&STs, was the only way to ensure their proportionate share in all walks of life. As a result of Baba Saheb’s Struggles, and his demands in the First and Second Round Table Conferences in 1930-32, the British agreed to provide some Reservations.

RESERVATIONS AVAILABLE

Today Reservations for the SCs&STs are available in –

1. Political Reservations in Parliament (Lower House of the People - Lok Sabha) and the State and UT Legislative Assemblies (Lower House of the People)

2. Reservations in Employment

3. Reservations in Education

4. Reservations for Economic Development

5. Some Reservations in Housing

POLITICAL RESERVATIONS for SCs&STs

Of these only Political Reservations, though time-bound are compulsory and inescapable, being a firm Constitutional Provision. This opened the way for the SCs&STs to participate in the Governance of the Country, directly to some extent possible, and force the Govts to take the Problems of SCs&STs seriously, and Plan for their Welfare and Development.

However, there are no Reservations for SCs in the Upper Houses in the Centre and the States. As a result, the Representation of SCs&STs in the Upper Houses are still poor. There is a need to introduce Reservations for SCs&STs in Rajya Sabha in Parliament, and Legislative Councils in the States.

RESERVATION IN EMPLOYMENT FOR SCs&STs

and to OBCs at the time of making Appointments.

Reservation in Employment, though without any time-limit, is only an enabling Provision in the Constitution, that also in Public Services. It is therefore left to the discretion of the Bureaucrats, Governments, Parliament and Legislative Assemblies. This was the Most Effective Programme for the Development of SC&ST Communities.

Reservation in Employment is a means for Community Participation in the Governance of the Country through Administration, its Executive Functions, and Decision making roles for day to day business of the Govts. It should not be - as it is often prone to – mixed with the Development of any Individual or family. It should not be seen just as a means of Employment, for getting a respectable and regular income as wages pay and allowances or salary every month. Yes, Employment of the Individuals are incidental to reservations in services. From 1990, Reservations for OBCs at the time of making Appointments had been introduced. It was challenged vehemently in all Political Fora, in every possible manner in Society, in the educational Institutions, and in the Streets. Hence the Govt of India, mad compensatory Reservations in favour of the poor amongst the dominant castes. In spite of this, the decision of the Govt in introducing Reservations for the OBCs in the matters of Appointments was challenged in the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court finally in its Judgement in 1992, upheld the Reservations for OBCs, at the time of making Appointments. But, they set aside the compensatory Reservations for the Poor amongst all other Dominant Sections of the Society.

Employment of an individual, is the best and direct method of Developing the Individual, family, the larger family associated with the person to a large extent, and the section and area of the community from where the individual hails, to a certain extent. For, it helps to provide a decent and regular income over a period of 30 to 40 years, depending upon the age of the individual at the time of recruitment and employment, and type of job employment and retirement age. And it provides encouragement, facilitates guidance and incentives for others around to study and seek better and higher employment. Therefore, it is suggested that SC&ST Institutions, should directly employ SCs&STs as much as possible, as it is in the case of other Minority Institutions.

AVAILABLE PROGRAMMES AND SCHEMES

Govt has come up, from time to time, with a number of Schemes and Programmes for the Weaker Sections. They are –

LONG-TERM PROGRAMMES

1. Education

a) Special Schools for STs, SCs, Minorities and Girl Children

b) Residential and Ashram Schools

c) Freeships, Scholarships, Fellowships and Bank Loans at Low Interest

d) Girls’ Hostels for STs, SCs, OBCs and Minorities

e) Colleges and Hostels for Women

f) Working Women’s Hostels

2. Distribution of Surplus Land to SCs&STs

3. Reservation in Education

4. Reservation in Jobs for SCs&STs and OBCs

5. Reservations in Job Promotions for SCs&STs

SHORT-TERM PROGRAMMES

1. Bank-Loans for Higher Education

2. Creation of Community Assets

3. Infrastructure Building

POVERTY ALLEVIATION PROGRAMMES

1. Integrated Rural Development Programme (IRDP)

2. Drought Prone Areas Programme (DPAP)

3. Multi-Purpose Tribal Development Blocks

4. Jawahar Gram Samridhi Yojna (JGSY)

5. Pradhan Mantri Gramodaya Yojana 2000-01 (PMGY)

6. Pradhan Mantri Gramodaya Yojana – Gramin Awas (PMGY – Gramin Awas)

7. Pradhan Mantri Gramodaya Yojana – Rural Drinking Water Project (PMGY- RDWP)

8. Pradhan Mantri Gram Sadak Yojana 2000 (PMGSY)

9. Antyodaya Anna Yojana 20001 (AAY)

10. Annapurna 2000

11. Indira Awass Yojana (IAY)

12. Valmiki Ambedkar Awas Yojana 2001 (VAMBAY)

INCOME GENERATING SCHEMES

1. National Rural Employment Programme (NREP)

2. Rural Landless Employment Guarantee Programme (RLEGP)

3. Training of Rural Youth for Self-Employment (TRYSEM)

4. Village and Small Industries (VSL)

5. Minimum Needs Programme (MNP)

6. Employment Assurance Scheme (EAS)

7. Swarnajayanti Gram Swarozgar Yojana 1999 (SGSY)

8. Sampoorna Grameen Rozgar Yojna 2001 (SGRY with EAS and JGSY integrated)

9. Jai Prakash Rozgar Guarantee Yojana (JPRGY)

10. Swarna Jayanti Shahari Rozgar Yojana (SJSRY)

GAPS IN THE IMPLEMENTATION of PAP and IGS

Though there are multiple numbers of Poverty Alleviation Programmes, and Income Generating Programmes, in reality they are parts of the original Community Development Programmes, conceived and taken up immediately after Independence. That had been muted modified renamed or separated from the original main scheme, to make them appear new. This, just to fool the people. Sometimes, few old ones have been clubbed together, under a new name, or merged together as a new programme. All these are really confusing, to even the educated. The poor Weaker Sections are therefore totally confused, and are totally at the mercy of the Block and District Level Officials, especially those in the Rural Areas.

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What? "my begging days are over" Please explain what you mean by that.

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Done got democracy now.....soooo, no more caste system for India.

Oh wait, here's an article from Sept 2007..about the Indian caste system.

The Indian Caste System

Although many Hindus subscribe to the belief that one is born into a certain caste this belief is not supported by their scriptures. The caste system in India has degenerated into a system falsely recognizing men born in Brahmin families as Brahmins, even though they don't exhibit the qualities of Brahmins. This has caused so many problems.

Madhudvida dasa (09-21-07)....................
http://india.krishna.org/Articles/2000/07/00057.html


Of job hunting and Indian caste system

Suman Guha Mozumdar in New York | November 02, 2007 14:03 IST
Last Updated: November 02, 2007 14:10 IST


Despite India's bid to integrate itself into the global economy that counts more on merit than on lineage, Indian employers continue to follow age-old hiring practices that discriminate against lower castes.

This is the view of Katherine Newman, professor of sociology in Princeton University and Paul Attewell, professor of sociology at the City University of New York, who led a research study along with Surinder S Jodhka of Jawaharlal Nehru University and Sukhadeo Thorat.

"Indian employers, especially the large employers, do continue, despite their views that they do not rely on the caste factor for employment decisions, to have preconceptions or stereotypes about applicants in the labour market that reinforce caste as a source of employment discrimination," Newman said.
http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/nov/02hire.htm

BTW venusdeindia, where is the crap you're posting coming from. I'd like to see the source.....for the biggest scandal in the history of the United States.

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posted December 22, 2007 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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AG.. between you and me, WE have both made inflammatory statements and are the last people to talk about someone hitting below the belt in written speech.

What I was trying to say was that it wasn't fair to try to guilt one party into censoring themselves when the opposing party doesn't censor himself. I can understand being insulted by what Mannu said, but I don't think that was the way to deal with the issue.

Further, on the issue on gurus:
People are individual. The student can never be the master. They are separate entities with separate personalities (with varying empathies and talents). No Cardinal sun would ever agree to completely mimic another person. It's not in our nature.

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posted December 24, 2007 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Healthcare (we have some of the worlds best hospitals, equipment and professionals but these are inaccessible to a great percentage of our population);

Education/illiteracy rate (again we have some of the best schools but our illiteracy rate is much high than it should be and a large percentage of our population is ignorant in all things not American (a not so small percentage is ignorant in everything - American and not American)

Our Poverty level is much higher than what most Americans think and what most of us would like to admit!

Quality of Life – From what I have seen I think we are far away form a many Europen countries – Switzerland and Ireland I’ve never been, but we are miles away from Scandinavian countries for example.

Life Expectancy – As an observer, it’s difficult for me to say – but I confess that being at # 29 is not a surprise. Our eating habits are amongst the worse in the world and as we all know this has huge implications in our health and life span

Currency strength –The Dollar is getting weaker and weaker. To the point of having countries convert their foreign currency reserves from Dollars to Euros. Just yesterday I read an article in a newspaper saying that even some super models are refusing work unless they get paid in a currency other than the Dollar (!).

Financially speaking we are still world leaders what happens here has repercussions around the world (if we sneeze and most of the world catches a cold!) but we are starting to loose ground, specially to China. China is growing like mad and is fast becoming the worlds #1 economy. Example: PetroChina is valued at more than 1 billion (!!!) - that’s almost twice the size of Exxon!!!!

Press independence – No comment! I’ll just leave a suggestion – see how different the same piece of news is treated on American channels (like FOX – In my opinion the epitome of biased) and then BBC, EURONEWS, France 24 etc. etc. and take your own conclusions.

The list goes on and on!

We have grown fat and lazy and have stopped questioning things. If we see it on TV or read it in a magazine it has to be true. We seem to forget that are so many BIG interests out there - political, economical, religious, etc etc. – that the word “truth” has taken a whole new meaning - all of a sudden the “truth” depends on what angle you are looking at it from.
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Mannu
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posted December 24, 2007 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>>FOX – In my opinion the epitome of biased


Is it just me thinking rubbish or is this person referring to O' Reily

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posted December 24, 2007 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG

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I can understand being insulted by what Mannu said, but I don't think that was the way to deal with the issue.

Mannu knew precisely what I said and why I said it That`s the intent and issue here and the very reason I spoke directly to him

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posted December 26, 2007 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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