posted May 01, 2008 02:59 PM            

How many times must I admit my faults before people stop accusing me of having a messiah complex?

Its like, if anyone asks you to be a gentler human being, it must be because they think they are Christ, right?

Okay, you got me, I spoke hastily about 26Taurus.
I meant to find that thread and see who had posted.
You win, jwhop. You werte right about that.
This is where you accuse me of never admitting to my mistakes, lol.
But the larger point I was making ought to remain clear.
Are you suggesting that anyone who talks of compassion is a phony
if they have not sounded off on this message board about every important issue?
There is no telling what we have posted on other message boards,
or in places that may make more of a difference than in here with folks like you.
I confess, I was ignorant of this issue, and I thank you and 26T for bringing it to my attention.
I agree that it is not technically a political issue,
and I wonder why you would argue that political affiliations
have everything to do with my neglect to speak at LL on this matter.

For now, I can only repeat what I have said already:
That something must be done to curb the Global Warming Crisis,
and, if people are being asked to sacrifice, they should be handsomely compensated.
Denying that there is any such crisis at all is not the answer,
and, if there is a political motive at work here,
it seems likely that it is yours, not mine.
After all, what party stands to profit by ignoring and denying this issue,
and finding fault with every effort to confront it?
Tell me, is there any action to prevent Global Warming that you would support?
So, you see, it is not about saving lives for you,
its about promoting the right-wihng agenda, all the way.

posted May 01, 2008 03:14 PM            

The phonies are those whose compassion is selective, those who display their compassion only for those who serve their political agenda.

Those are the phonies I'm talking about and you're on that list.

Perhaps if you didn't use religious symbology in your posts you wouldn't get ripped for your Messiah complex...you and LTT.

It is most disgusting to see you've posted a picture of Christ on the Cross when you've been ripped for one of your many errors, fantasies and phony compassion.

posted May 01, 2008 03:16 PM            

In the past,
I have expressed my dissent as delicately and sensitively as possible,
with the result that my words were twisted and I was told that I was just
calling them murderers and sheeple, and all the rest of it,
no matter how hard I tried to show them that i dont blame them,
and that I can see how it appears from their perspective.

The way I see it, they cant understand diplomacy,
and they only see it as some kind of subversive underhandedness.
So here I am speaking the plain truth, in plain language that they can understand.

People like this tend to blindly follow public opinion, anyway, so, it seems to me,
the way to get through to them, is to make these views public and commonplace.
When the things I am saying are being said by many others,
it will be harder to dismiss me as some rogue of the lunatic fringe.

The way to make that happen is by saying what I have to say.
Clearly, the first people to catch on are not going to be jwhop and pidaua.
They wont pick up the scent, like I said, until it becomes popular opinion.
My hope is to reach people who are closer to myself in ideology,
and to progress by degrees from there.

The way I see it, my extremism even makes you look better,
and it makes your approach appear more palatable.
So, perhaps, instead of dismissing you as a total crazy,
they will reserve that high praise for folks like myself,
and, maybe, just maybe, they will listen to what you have to say.

That would be more than enough for me to ask for.

In the meantime, I'll continue to speak for the lunatic fringe,
and make people like you look like a reasonable alternative, lol.

Can you find anything to disagree with about that?

posted May 01, 2008 03:17 PM              

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It is most disgusting to see you've posted a picture of Christ on the Cross when you've been ripped for one of your many errors, fantasies and phony compassion.

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posted May 01, 2008 03:18 PM            

Thank you for reminding me of why I had refused to bother with you.

posted May 01, 2008 03:19 PM            

~ Abraham Lincoln

posted May 01, 2008 03:30 PM            

"Thou Shalt Not Kill"

Perhaps Listens to Trees would do well to stop listening to those trees and use books made from trees to gain some knowledge on a subject she knows nothing about.

"Thou Shalt Not Kill" is a mistranslation and should read..Thou shalt not commit murder. Listens to Trees would have found that out with any investigation at all. Listens to Trees would also have found out..if she had bothered to inform herself that "murder" as understood and accepted in those times meant the deliberate, intentional and willful killing of those who had committed no crime against you.

It doesn't apply to killing enemy soldiers, killing in self defense, executing criminals and it doesn't apply to accidental killing.

posted May 01, 2008 03:35 PM            

Did it ever cross your mind that the house that you live in could be financed by Rothschild ? Why don't you start living on the streets if that insiduous ring of power concerns you? If it does not apply to you, will you advice your friend that does, to do the same?

I think this thread now belongs to one of Linda's other occult forums

Nuff said.

posted May 01, 2008 03:43 PM            

"Opps, I meant to pull the trigger, but it was an accident."

I'd like you to find me one soldier, on either side of this conflict,
who doesnt think that they are killing justly and in self-defense.

Its so absurd, I dont know where to begin with you folks.

Self-defense, lol.

We are in their country, lol.

Self-defense, lol.

We went over there with the intention of killing people.

We are fighting people who had nothing to do with 9/11,
and who had no intention of hurting us until we invaded and occupied their country.

We are "accidentally" dismembering their families and levelling their homes.

What do you expect them to do?

Welcome us with open arms?

Like Christ on the cross?

*shakes head*

Every minute we spend in the Middle East, throwing our military weight around,
we are encouraging more disillusioned and confused poor people to become terrorists.
And, if you were one of them, you would be justifying the "murder" of American troops,
and the "accidental" bombing, shooting, and killing of American civilians, too,
just as you are justifying the killing of innocent Iraqis and their defenders.

posted May 01, 2008 03:52 PM            

Can we stop living by rules of a foreign land and start living by the rules of the constitution ?

I wonder what Ron Paul has to say in his new book for the Americans

posted May 01, 2008 03:54 PM            

As for bin Laden, his family is one of wealth in Saudi Arabia.

Any attorney worth their salt would throw someone like you off a jury in a hurry HSC. You aren't intelligent enough to know the difference between murder and manslaughter. Nor do you understand neither apply in Iraq or any other country where a war is in progress.

I note you continue to evade any talk about the innocent Iraqi civilians terrorists kill. Just as you evade any talk about the innocent Iraqi citizens Saddam murdered. No concern or compassion of them..eh HSC. No HSC, no compassion for them from you or any of the other phonies of the compassion set.

posted May 01, 2008 03:55 PM              

He saw the bodies of his friends lying on the floor; bloody and gruesome. He was sickened to his stomach and shocked.

Then all of a sudden, it struck him.

Only the day or so before, he had seen the same image of Iraqi soldiers lying dead in this way.

Suddenly, he realized the irony. The sight of Iraqi soldiers lying dead had not effected him too much. Not in the way seeing US soldiers had.

Then he knew.

He realized that there really is no difference between the life of an Iraqi soldier and the life of an American soldier.

posted May 01, 2008 04:00 PM            

The 6th Commandment was being discussed not the US Constitution. Further Mannu, the Constitution is not being violated by sending US military forces into Iraq. The Congress of the United States authorized military force to remove Saddam.

posted May 01, 2008 04:05 PM            

Jwhop, Thats my point. What makes people still quote the 10 commandments? Those laws are meant for Israelis , perhaps given by Moses. Not for UK or US folks. I see that bias so predominantly in both countries.

For once get the heck away from the extremist laws of another nation. Only the declaration of independence is worth keeping - all other bullsh1t amendments must be abolished. Too extreme like the 10 and remaining nine hundreds commandments. why do people need to live by the books. Thats one of the reasons I don't like Ron Paul too. Too bookish. Where is common sense? Why is mutual respect and good-will still elusive in the 21st century that we require books?

God knows how many people I may have hurt, but who cares. I say what I mean.

Nuff said.

posted May 01, 2008 04:05 PM              

You claimed you were studying Buddhism. I said that was great. I commented on the trustworthiness of the Eight Fold Path. This qualifies as forcing? I think you could use a little discipline. You know I think this. I don't think you're ready to actively admit that you need this discipline. I promise you I'm not wringing my hands in anguish over that fact. When it comes, it comes. I still don't see any forcing.

I don't see your sensitivity as superior. I think you often mistake sensitivity for immaturity.

As I recently stated, I'd guess in some ways you're more refined than me and in some ways you're less. But I think we'd need someone considerably more refined than both of us to judge. oops I used the "j" word. Is this a race?

I'm "picking on you"? Unforgiving and harsh? Look I'm not going to slobber and genufluct, HSC, if that's what you're hoping for. You've got plenty of people in the club for that already. I'm at loss. I really am. After everything you've said here, I'm unforgiving and harsh? You know, you've got so much damn nerve ... how can I help but laugh?

posted May 01, 2008 04:05 PM            

Lets give more pats to the Big Cat,
for putting up with all those nasty "twits".

Sure he is thick-skinned enough to take it,
and no one can argue that he doesnt bring it on himself,
but lets defend him anyway, and lets defend his right to be an uncompromising jerk
by heaping as much scorn as we can muster on all those nasty, thin-skinned pacifists.

After all, he says something nice every once in a while
(after you pet him and tell him how much you appreciate him,
and how grateful you are, and what a good man he is,
and after you raise a glass in his honor, lol).

Lovely that he's been keeping up with GG's plight,
and praying for the recovering of her husband every day,
despite the fact that he only posted two obligatory, cliched little sentences on page 1 of her thread.

I'm not posting this on that thread out of respect for GG,
and because some of you would take the opportunity to descend on me like cruise missles.
But, I'm sorry, I just couldnt let that slide without saying something true.

lol

This is getting ridiculous.

Long Live Jwhop!

Down with the "nasty twits" offended by his constant disrespect!

Oh, the stupid games we play.

posted May 01, 2008 04:05 PM            

This intuitively rang of truth:
"Every minute we spend in the Middle East, throwing our military weight around,
we are encouraging more disillusioned and confused poor people to become terrorists."

and Jwhop, I appreciate so much that you answered this argument with your truth. It really helps in understanding your position and making others aware of what you have learned... helping to bring objective truth to light. Your whole "strawman" approach tearing down HSC is objectionable to me and also takes the focus off the actual argument which is not necessary if you are sharing objective truth that can withstand cross-examination. You clearly study this subject more. We are here to learn from each other. So let's focus on that rather than "winning". If we get even one step closer, we all win.

posted May 01, 2008 04:06 PM              

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LTT,

Did it ever cross your mind that the house that you live in could be financed by Rothschild ? Why don't you start living on the streets if that insiduous ring of power concerns you? If it does not apply to you, will you advice your friend that does, to do the same?

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Laugh at me if you like.

Oh, why can't I do that?
Oh, of course- most of those communities have been wiped out; murdered, raped and butchered on their homeland; their land was then taken from to be covered with concrete and ugly great big buildings, filled with lonely people every day traveling to work in their cars beeping their horns in anger; a sense of indifference and separation. Economic growth- the new god. Science- the new religion viewed as sacred above the sentient life forms it exploits; they even think they have a right to tamper with human eggs at their own whims; designer babies.
For god's sake.

You Are, Therefore I Am.

Embrace the holistic view.

Why can't we agree on something, or at least agree to disagree once in a while?

Why stand their mocking and ridiculing me, BR and HSC for our viewpoints and beliefs?

posted May 01, 2008 04:07 PM            

It was OK for Saddam to murder about 1,000,000 innocent Iraqi civilians and no action should have been taken against Saddam.

Go ahead LTT, that's what you really mean.

You can follow up with this:

It's OK for terrorists to deliberately and intentionally kill Iraqi civilians and no action should be taken against them.