posted May 09, 2008 12:31 AM            

Last updated 7/26/03

A real example of the eRumor as it has appeared on the Internet:

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This is really quite a different story from those you read or hear about
in the
news these days. Listen to what is being said by an Army Major who is in
Iraq and seems to have a pretty good handle on the situation.

OPEN LETTER TO FIRST LUTHERAN CHURCH OF RICHMOND BEACH
It has been a while since I have written to my friends at First Lutheran
Church about what's really going on here in Iraq. The news you watch on
TV is exaggerated, sensationalized and selective. Good news doesn't
sell.

The stuff you don't hear about? Let's start with Electrical Power
production
in Iraq. The day after the war was declared over, there was nearly 0
power
being generated in Iraq. 45 days later, in a partnership between the
Army,
the Iraqi people and some private companies, there are now 3200 mega
watts (Mw) of power being produced daily, 1/3 of the total national
potential
of 8000 Mw. Downed power lines (big stuff, 400 Kilovolt (Kv) and 132 Kv)
are being repaired and are about 70% complete.

Then there is water purification. In central Iraq between Baghdad and
Mosul, home of the 4th Infantry Division, Water treatment was spotty at
best.
The facilities existed, but the controls were never implemented. Simple
chemicals like Chlorine for purification and Alum (Aluminum Sulfate) for
sediment settling (The Tigris River is about as clear as the Mississippi
River)
were in short supply or not used at all and when chlorine was used, it
was
metered by the scientific method of guessing. So some people got pool
water and some people got water with lots of little things moving in it.
We are slowly but surely solving that. Contracts for repairs to
facilities that
are only 50% or less operational are being let, chemicals are being
delivered, although we don't have the metering problem solved yet (It's
only
been 45 days).

How about oil and fuel? Well the war was all about oil wasn't it? You
bet it
was. It was all about oil for the Iraqi people because they have no
other
income, they produce nothing else. Oil is 95% of the Iraqi GNP. For this
nation to survive, it MUST sell oil. The Refinery at Bayji is at
75% of capacity producing gasoline. The crude pipeline between Kirkuk
(Oil Central) and Bayji will be repaired by tomorrow (2 June). LPG, what
all
Iraqi's use to cook and heat with, is at 103% of normal production and
WE,
the US ARMY, at least 4th ID, are insuring it is being distributed
FAIRLY to
ALL Iraqi's.

You have to remember that 3 months ago, ALL these things were used as
weapons against the population to keep them in line. If your town
misbehaved, gasoline shipments stopped, LPG pipelines and trucks
stopped, Water was turned off, power was turned off.

Now, until exports start, every drop of gasoline produced goes to the
Iraqi
people, crude oil is being stored, the country is at 75% capacity now,
they
need to export or stop pumping soon, thank the UN for the delay. ALL LPG
goes to the Iraqi people EVERYWHERE. Water is being purified as best
they can, but at least it's running all the time to everyone.

Are we still getting shot at? Yep Are American Soldiers still dying?
Yep,
about 1 a day from the 4th ID, most in accidents, but dead is dead.

If we are doing all this for the Iraqi's, why are they shooting at us?

The general population isn't. There are still bad guys, who won't let go
of
the old regime. They are Ba'ath party members (Read Nazi Party, but not
as nice) who know nothing but the regime. They were thugs for the regime
that caused many to disappear in the night and they have no other
skills. At
least the Nazis had jobs they could go back to after the war as
plumbers,
managers, engineers, etc...these people have no skills but terror. They
are
simply applying their skills....and we are applying ours.
There is no Christian way to say they must be eliminated and we are
doing
so with all the efficiency we can muster. Our troops are shot at
literally
everyday by small arms and RPGs. We respond and 100% of the time, the
Ba'ath party guys come out with the short end of the stick. The most
amazing thing to me is that they don't realize that if they stopped
shooting
at us, we would focus on fixing things and leave. The more they shoot at
us, the longer we will stay.

Lastly, Realize that 90% the damage you see on TV was caused by
IRAQI's, NOT the war. Sure we took out a few bridges from military
necessity, we took out a few power and phone lines to disrupt
communications, sure we drilled a few palaces and government
headquarters buildings with 2000lb laser guided bombs (I work 100 yards
from where two hit the Tikrit Palace), he had plenty to spare. But, ANY
damage you see to schools, hospitals, power generation facilities,
refineries, pipelines, was ALL caused either by the Iraqi Army in its
death
throws or the Iraqi civilians looting the places. Could the army have
prevented it? Nope. We can and do now, but 45 days ago the average
soldier was lucky to know what town he was in much less be informed
enough to know who owned what or have the power to stop a
1,000 people from looting a building by himself.

The United States and Britian are doing a very noble thing here. We
stuck
our necks out on the world chopping block to free a people. I've already
talked the weapons of mass destruction thing to death, bottom line, who
cares, this country was one big conventional weapons ammo dump
anyway.
We have probably destroyed more weapons and ammo in the last 30 days
than the US Army has ever fired in the last 30 years (Remember, this is
a
country the size of Texas), so drop the WMD argument as the reason we
came here, if we find it GREAT, if we don't, SO WHAT? I'm living in a
"guest palace" on a
500 acre palace compound with 20 palaces with like facilities built in
half a
dozen towns all over Iraq that were built for one man. Drive down the
street
and out into the countryside 5 miles away (I have) and see a family of
10 living in a mud hut herding two dozen sheep, Then tell me why you
think
we are here.

Respectfully, ERIC RYDBOM MAJ, ENGINEER Deputy Division Engineer
4th Infantry Division

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posted May 09, 2008 12:58 AM            

Metzenbaum, whose strategy throughout the campaign included questioning Glenn's civilian leadership experience, apparently remarked during a speech that the career Marine and former astronaut had "never met a payroll," or words to that effect. Somehow this morphed into "never held a job" in the press coverage of the campaign (and continues to be reported that way to this day), and Glenn took the straw man and ran with it in a May 3, 1974 debate with Metzenbaum at the Cleveland City Club.

Here, according to political columnist Mark Shields, is what Glenn actually said in that debate (other accounts differ only slightly):

I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I was through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions.
I was in the space program. It wasn't my checkbook. It was my life that was on the line. This was not a 9-to-5 job where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank. I ask you to go with me . . . as I went the other day to a Veterans Hospital and look those men with their mangled bodies in the eye and tell them they didn't hold a job. You go with me to any Gold Star mother, and you look her in the eye and tell her that her son did not hold a job.

You go with me to the space program, and you go as I have gone to the widows and the orphans of Ed White and Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee, and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their dad didn't hold a job.

You go with me on Memorial Day coming up, and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery - where I have more friends than I like to remember - and you watch those waving flags, and you stand there, and you think about this nation, and you tell me that those people didn't have a job.

I tell you, Howard Metzenbaum, you should be on your knees every day of your life thanking God that there were some men - some men - who held a job. And they required a dedication to purpose and a love of country and a dedication to duty that was more important than life itself. And their self-sacrifice is what has made this country possible.... I have held a job, Howard.

posted May 09, 2008 12:58 PM            

I've very familiar with the little pencil necked geek Metzenbaum and his effete elitism.

I'm sure there are lots of letters from soldiers in Iraq. Perhaps not as direct and not as descriptive of what's going on there as this one.

It's too bad we get our news filtered through the bias of the main stream press.

Front page stories when there's anything casting doubt on the mission there or that the situation is not entirely successful.

On the other hand, when it appears the US and Iraqi army are working together and Sunni leaders are cooperating to identify and fight against terrorists, then those same media news sources go silent on the subject.

Their motto is, it it hurts the credibility of the mission, the military or the administration run it front page. If not, then don't run it at all.

posted May 09, 2008 03:22 PM              

Thank you for posting this. I haven't had the opportunity to keep up much with world/foreign/national affairs as of the last few months, so I appreciate you taking the time to put this up there, for myself and others to read.

Amanda

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The truth is ... everything counts. Everything. Everything we do and everything we say. Everything helps or hurts; everything adds to or takes away from someone else. ~ Countee Cullen

We are weaving character every day, and the way to weave the best character is to be kind and to be useful. Think right, act right; it is what we think and do that makes us who we are. ~ Elbert Hubbard

posted May 09, 2008 04:50 PM            

These soldiers deserve our respect for their sacrifices.
Let's hear what they have to say.

U.S. Soliders Returning From Iraq Testify Against the War at the Winter Soldier Conference

Hear the Eye-Witness Indictments NOT being reported by the mainstream press

US Vets, Active-Duty Soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan Testify About the Horrors of War

US veterans gathered in Maryland this past weekend to testify at Winter Soldier, an eyewitness indictment of atrocities committed by US troops during the ongoing occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Soldiers spoke of free-fire zones, the shootings and beatings of innocent civilians, racism at the highest levels of the military, sexual harassment and assault within the military, and the torturing of prisoners. While the corporate media ignored the story, we broadcast their voices. [includes rush transcript]

Winter Soldier Jon Turner http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m_f3WPvzU4&feature=related

Winter Soldier Mike Prysner testimony, Pt1
Part 1 is introductory, deals with the military teaching and using racism,
and the bulk of the experience on the ground which involved him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i5ZUfpxnV0

Winter Soldier Jason Hurd on DN-IVAW
At Winter Soldier, I reported my own experience and the information that came to me about the shooting. I also gave my own opinion that the shooting was indiscriminant and unnecessary; some in my unit may disagree with me. That being said, this incident did cause some debate within the unit about whether or not the gunner over-reacted. Whether the gunner over-reacted is actually trivial in my argument. My argument was that we do react out of fear imposed by the chain of command and that soldiers shouldn't be placed in these situations to begin with. Finally, I have an addition to my testimony that should be mentioned here. I in no way intended to indict or defame the character of my fellow soldiers with my testimony (a point that I failed to make clear at Winter Soldier). We all did what we had to do to get home alive and I have the utmost respect for the people in my unit. My only intentions are to prevent other soldiers from seeing the things that I have seen and to keep Iraqis from suffering any longer." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_cjkWevHNM&feature=related

WINTER SOLDIER: MIKE TOTTEN
Mike Totten, Former US Army specialist who served with the 716th MP Battalion in the 101st Airborne and was deployed to Iraq in April 2003 until April 2004 (from Democracy Now). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtMlXABWmxE&feature=related

WINTER SOLDIER: JEFFREY SMITH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl65KHxGQRo&feature=related

WINTER SOLDIER: TANYA AUSTIN
Austin, an Arab linguist in Military Intelligence, speaks on behalf of a female soldier who was raped in Iraq and then blamed for her own rape. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLIBCvcCwe0&feature=related

WINTER SOLDIER: HART VIGES
Hart Viges fought with the 82nd Airborne Division in Iraq before being granted conscientious objector status upon his return home. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnldeEEQB0s&feature=related

Iraq Veterans Against the War
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4Wh4XGmfJo4
Short video of the Philly chapter of Iraq Veterans Against the War to draw attention to the upcoming Winter Soldier:
Iraq & Afghanistan events, March 13th-16th in Washington, DC.

posted May 09, 2008 04:59 PM            

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Ex Marine: Soldiers Against the War
To have a war, you must identify the enemy and then destroy them.
A war against ideas like 'terror' can never be won.

Other soldiers for Freedom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmhmEWI_JQk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeJbxT4f7E8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGLUbUzNoW4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzdTaXwPacg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eqe9SMrUMI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyCEQBl84HU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErTMXT-tk54

Former CIA Chief over Al Qaeda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZNfuIvtLos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFbOtPSiHJE

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GI resisters are getting considerable support from other soldiers and veterans. Following the press conference, a group of Iraq Veterans Against the August 11, 2006 Iraq Veterans Against the War Press Conference at the Arlington Northwest Memorial. Seattle, Washington www.ivaw.net Sgt. Ricky Clousing U.S. Army interrogator

A wave of soldiers are refusing to participate in the U.S. war against Iraq.

GI resisters are getting considerable support from other soldiers and veterans.

Following the press conference, a group of Iraq Veterans Against the War, along with former GI resisters and other supporters went with Ricky Clousing to Fort Lewis, where Ricky surrendered himself to military custody.

Seattle Draft and Military Counseling http://www.sdmcc.org/rickyclousing

Courage To Resist http://www.CourageToResist.org

The Movie: Sir! No Sir! http://www.sirnosir.com

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Against the War (working title): a documentary produced and directed by Katherine Niemczyk about soldiers speaking out about past and present war experiences. Look for the The trailer/demo reel for Veterans Against the War (working title): a documentary produced and directed by Katherine Niemczyk about soldiers speaking out about past and present war experiences. Look for the completed documentary at the end of 2008! (more) (less) Added: 6 months ago

SOLDIERS against WAR in IRAQ
BUSH and his war the SAME THING HAPPENED IN VIETNAM we need to stand up for whats right and leave iraq and the middle east...iraq war

13-Dec-07
former US soldier for whom life has taken a new direction - campaigning against US involvement in the Iraq conflict....aljazeera US vetrans Iraq war Kristin Saloomey The US Veterans Associations has said that suicides among returning soldiers have reached epidemic levels.

posted May 09, 2008 04:59 PM            

Winter Soldier (talking truth about Iraq, Vietnam)-2/5
for the Winter Soldier hearings. The soldiers plan to give eyewitness accounts of the occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Organized by Iraq Veterans Against the War, the Winter Soldier: Hundreds of Veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan Gather to Testify in Echo of 1971 Vietnam Hearings
Hundreds of veterans and active-duty soldiers of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are gathering today for the Winter Soldier hearings. The soldiers plan to give eyewitness accounts of the occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Organized by Iraq Veterans Against the War, the gathering is modeled after the 1971 Winter Solider hearings organized by the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. [includes rush transcript]

Iraq Veterans Against the War Chicago 1/2
from Iraq Veterans Against the War in Chicago. 2-15-2008 Discussion includes anti-war actions, soldier resistance, sexual harassment in the military. Gay Liberation Network call in show host Andy Thayer talks with Patty McCann from Iraq Veterans Against the War in Chicago. 2-15-2008

Discussion includes anti-war actions, soldier resistance, sexual harassment in the military.

Protest Actions in Washington DC:

Thursday March 13 to Sunday March 16, 2008
Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan will feature testimony from U.S. veterans who served in those occupations, giving an accurate account of what is really happening day in and day out, on the ground. http://www.ivaw.org

Protest Actions in Chicago:

March 19, 2008 Protest!
6pm rally Federal Plaza Adams & Dearborn, then march to the "Gold Coast"
March 20, 2008 Resist!
Day of creative actions, then "Convergence" 5pm at Federal Plaza http://www.chicagomassaction.org
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The despicible US military caught on film butchering Iraqi children....

Iraq Veterans Against the War march to Valley Forge
with the vets and one active duty soldier along the way. Support our troops-- bring 'em home....iraq veterans against war winter soldier The Philadelphia chapter of Iraq Veterans Against the War marched from Constitution Hall in Philadelphia to Valley Forge on March 1st & 2nd. 25 miles in 2 days. The primary objective of the march was to bring attention to the upcoming event, Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan, which will feature eyewitness accounts of the occupations from veterans, active duty soldiers and Iraq and Afghan civilians. Held outside our nation's capital from March 13th through the 16th, all of the accounts will be broadcast live online. See www.ivaw.org for details.

In this video, Joe Public Films producer Tom Jackson returns to his guerrilla roots, dodging telephone polls and filming while trying to keep up with the vets and one active duty soldier along the way.

Support our troops-- bring 'em home!

Soldier speaks out against Iraq War Oct 27
native active duty war resister speaks out at the New Orleans UFPJ National Mobilization Day 10-27-07....UFPJ IVAW NOLA Anti-war

posted May 09, 2008 05:01 PM            

Winter Soldier Conference

Soldier testifies on corrupt military policies:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sOWCMLmA5e0

posted May 09, 2008 05:08 PM            

Soldiers ordered and permitted to shoot Civilians
http://youtube.com/watch?v=L4bWwi7sn5k&feature=related

posted May 09, 2008 05:23 PM            

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This month, for four days in Washington, DC, beginning on March 13, there will be a second Winter Soldier gathering -- 37 years after the first. Organized by the protest group Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW), US veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan since the 9/11 attack on New York will testify about their experiences.

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As we mark the five-year anniversary of the invasion of Iraq this week, we continue to bring you the voices of US veterans and active-duty soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan testifying about the horrors of war. For four days, soldiers convened at the National Labor College in Silver Spring, Maryland for Winter Soldier, an eyewitness indictment of atrocities committed by US troops during the ongoing occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Organized by Iraq Veterans Against the War, the event was modeled after the historic 1971 Winter Soldier hearings held during the Vietnam War. [includes rush transcript] (more) (less) part 1 - part 2 - part 3 - part 4 - part 5 Added: 1 month ago

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Eyewitness Accounts of the Invasions, Eric Estenzo, Lisa Cantu
March 13-16, 2008
Washington, D.C.

In 1776, Thomas Paine wrote: "These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman."

In 1971, a courageous group of veterans exposed the criminal nature of the Vietnam War in an event called Winter Soldier. Once again, we will demand that the voices of veterans are heard.

Once again, we are fighting for the soul of our country. We will demonstrate our patriotism by speaking out with honor and integrity instead of blindly following failed policy. Winter Soldier is a difficult but essential service to our country.

Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan will feature testimony from U.S. veterans who served in those occupations, giving an accurate account of what is really happening day in and day out, on the ground.

The four-day event will bring together veterans from across the country to testify about their experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan - and present video and photographic evidence. In addition, there will be panels of scholars, veterans, journalists, and other specialists to give context to the testimony. These panels will cover everything from the history of the GI resistance movement to the fight for veterans' health benefits and support.
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Winter Soldier: Hundreds of Veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan Gather to Testify in Echo of 1971 Vietnam Hearings Hundreds of veterans and active-duty soldiers of the Iraq Winter Soldier: Hundreds of Veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan Gather to Testify in Echo of 1971 Vietnam Hearings
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Winter Soldier, public testimony from US military, so that the true face of war can't be denied. http://www.ivaw. Winter Soldier, public testimony from US military, so that the true face of war can't be denied. http://www.ivaw.org Video & Testimony can be found here.

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Eyewitness Accounts of the Invasions, Eric Estenzo, Lisa Cantu
March 13-16, 2008
Washington, D.C.

In 1776, Thomas Paine wrote: "These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman."

In 1971, a courageous group of veterans exposed the criminal nature of the Vietnam War in an event called Winter Soldier. Once again, we will demand that the voices of veterans are heard.

Once again, we are fighting for the soul of our country. We will demonstrate our patriotism by speaking out with honor and integrity instead of blindly following failed policy. Winter Soldier is a difficult but essential service to our country.

Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan will feature testimony from U.S. veterans who served in those occupations, giving an accurate account of what is really happening day in and day out, on the ground.

The four-day event will bring together veterans from across the country to testify about their experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan - and present video and photographic evidence. In addition, there will be panels of scholars, veterans, journalists, and other specialists to give context to the testimony. These panels will cover everything from the history of the GI resistance movement to the fight for veterans' health benefits and support.
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Friday March 14th, 2008

This month, for four days in Washington, DC, beginning on March 13, there will be a second Winter Soldier gathering -- 37 years after the first. Organized by the protest group Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW), US veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan since the 9/11 attack on New York will testify about their experiences.

They will present photographs and videos, recorded with mobile phones and digital cameras, to back up their allegations -- of brutality, torture and murder.

The veterans are not against the military and seek not to indict it -- instead they seek to shine a light on the bigger picture: that the Abu Ghraib prison regime and the Haditha massacre of innocent Iraqis are not isolated incidents perpetrated by "bad seeds" as the military suggests, but evidence of an endemic problem. They will say they were tasked to do terrible things and point the finger up the chain of command, which ignores, diminishes or covers up routine abuse and atrocities. (From the London Sunday Times, see full article in context link below)

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posted May 09, 2008 05:56 PM            

These soldiers deserve our respect for their sacrifices.
Let's hear what they have to say.

U.S. Soliders Returning From Iraq Testify Against the War at the Winter Soldier Conference

Hear the Eye-Witness Indictments NOT being reported by the mainstream press

US Vets, Active-Duty Soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan Testify About the Horrors of War

US veterans gathered in Maryland this past weekend to testify at Winter Soldier, an eyewitness indictment of atrocities committed by US troops during the ongoing occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Soldiers spoke of free-fire zones, the shootings and beatings of innocent civilians, racism at the highest levels of the military, sexual harassment and assault within the military, and the torturing of prisoners. While the corporate media ignored the story, we broadcast their voices. [includes rush transcript]

Winter Soldier Jon Turner http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m_f3WPvzU4&feature=related

Winter Soldier Mike Prysner testimony, Pt1
Part 1 is introductory, deals with the military teaching and using racism,
and the bulk of the experience on the ground which involved him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i5ZUfpxnV0

Winter Soldier Jason Hurd on DN-IVAW
At Winter Soldier, I reported my own experience and the information that came to me about the shooting. I also gave my own opinion that the shooting was indiscriminant and unnecessary; some in my unit may disagree with me. That being said, this incident did cause some debate within the unit about whether or not the gunner over-reacted. Whether the gunner over-reacted is actually trivial in my argument. My argument was that we do react out of fear imposed by the chain of command and that soldiers shouldn't be placed in these situations to begin with. Finally, I have an addition to my testimony that should be mentioned here. I in no way intended to indict or defame the character of my fellow soldiers with my testimony (a point that I failed to make clear at Winter Soldier). We all did what we had to do to get home alive and I have the utmost respect for the people in my unit. My only intentions are to prevent other soldiers from seeing the things that I have seen and to keep Iraqis from suffering any longer." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_cjkWevHNM&feature=related

WINTER SOLDIER: MIKE TOTTEN
Mike Totten, Former US Army specialist who served with the 716th MP Battalion in the 101st Airborne and was deployed to Iraq in April 2003 until April 2004 (from Democracy Now). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtMlXABWmxE&feature=related

WINTER SOLDIER: JEFFREY SMITH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl65KHxGQRo&feature=related

WINTER SOLDIER: TANYA AUSTIN
Austin, an Arab linguist in Military Intelligence, speaks on behalf of a female soldier who was raped in Iraq and then blamed for her own rape. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLIBCvcCwe0&feature=related

WINTER SOLDIER: HART VIGES
Hart Viges fought with the 82nd Airborne Division in Iraq before being granted conscientious objector status upon his return home. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnldeEEQB0s&feature=related

posted May 09, 2008 05:59 PM            

i know you wouldnt be trying to start any trouble.

posted May 09, 2008 07:47 PM            

Wth is wrong w/ you HSC?

posted May 09, 2008 08:05 PM            

I dont understand your objection.

The Topic of this Thread:

Military perspectives ignored by the media

quote:

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the purpose of this thread is to share military perspectives (from any time or place) that are being or have been ignored by the media.

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Thats exactly what I posted:

US veterans gathered in Maryland this past weekend to testify at Winter Soldier, an eyewitness indictment of atrocities committed by US troops during the ongoing occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Soldiers spoke of free-fire zones, the shootings and beatings of innocent civilians, racism at the highest levels of the military, sexual harassment and assault within the military, and the torturing of prisoners. While the corporate media ignored the story, we broadcast their voices.

Please, Isis,
try to keep the thread on topic,
and be respectuful of differing viewpoints.
There's room for all of us.

Blessings,
HSC

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Iraq Veterans Against the War Speak Out (1 of 4)

Iraq Veterans Against the War Washington, DC Chapter president, Geoffrey Millard holds forth on veterans issues, his own experiences while serving in Iraq, and pays tribute to the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, for their having laid the foundation upon which IVAW was built. Geoff was one of 50 Iraq veterans interviewed in the July 30, 2007 issue of The Nation http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070730...

posted May 09, 2008 08:36 PM              

next time maybe you could at least give us a little credit and try a more subtle approach.

posted May 09, 2008 10:35 PM            

I'm serious.

posted May 10, 2008 04:22 AM              

I don't know what happened to this site
I've been waiting for it to work itself out but I guess it's just not going to do that. I left once ... then let someone tempt me back. Big mistake maybe.