posted May 11, 2008 08:16 AM            

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Not so fast, HSC. I actually had the unenviable "pleasure" of seeing the little tidbit you posted underneath the picture of those wounded soldiers. For those who missed it, here it is:

posted May 11, 2008 02:15 PM            

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I think he was allowing himself to stoop down to that level, due to the nature of the personal insults and dirt slung at him,
while no-one did anything about it except, if anything, to praise that behavior. He was merely reacting.
At least he had the decency after to delete it.

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posted May 11, 2008 02:19 PM              

I'm actually in love with you!

(But don't tell him that )

posted May 11, 2008 07:28 PM            

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At least he had the decency after to delete it.

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Throwing something out there that will surely offend and possibly hurt other people's feelings ... and then pretending you did no such thing. That's decency? To each their own and all that but to me? That's cowardice.

Although things are finally starting to come together. Terrorists hiding behind women and children, strapping guns to little kids and sending them to where the troops are and then hiding ... yup. Now I'm beginning to see how you (certainly not I) could possibly see those actions as anything other than the lowest form of cowardice.

posted May 11, 2008 08:38 PM            

We all already agreed that no one wants to cause the deaths of children. Everyone just has different ideas about how to bring the least amount of pain and death to the people of the world. And there are some in high places who are corrupt, right and left.

Just stop. All of you. Go call your mothers.

One of you or one of your loved ones could die tonight.
Is this how you want to spend your last hours?

Weeks this has gone on.
Mars left Cancer last night. Try to tend to your frustration and hurt feelings. You are all loved. Find your peace.

It is sad here. I don't mean that sarcastically. I mean terribly emotionally sad. If everyone wasn't mad they would have tears running down their cheeks. You have to angry just to survive these conversations.
Have a little faith in each other.

posted May 11, 2008 09:43 PM            

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I think he was allowing himself to stoop down to that level, due to the nature of the personal insults and dirt slung at him, while no-one did anything about it except, if anything, to praise that behavior. He was merely reactin

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posted May 11, 2008 09:50 PM            

The only winners in war are the war profiteers.

The only heroes in war are those who refuse to kill.

posted May 11, 2008 11:25 PM            

I'm not angry ... and hardly ever actually get angry at the antics that litter this forum. All I tried to do was create one simple thread to show a different side from just about every other thread here. HSC apparantly didn't understand that and when it was simplified for his sake, he began his childish attempts to disrupt this thread further and thus knowingly. I welcome the various threads on this forum, even if I disagree with them or parts of them. Why? Perhaps because I don't go around preaching about tolerance and then proving my intolerance at every turn.

Do you know how easy it would be to post pictures of mangled babies blown up by terrorists? How easy it would be to post pictures of women raped and battered by terrorists and extremists? These terrorists are people that LTT and HSC refer to as "freedom fighters" and as "understandable" in their "reactions"? Sorry, but there is nothing understandable to me about purposely targetting women and children and civilians in general ... and it is less understandable that some would defend those actions but shriek when (only) our troops actually accidentally kill innocent people.

I'd add a whole section about adding pictures of wounded soliders only now we know that pictures of injured soldiers are only good for a laugh for HSC, so that wouldn't really have any effect, but they'd still be easy to post and certainly they would be equally gruesome.

In other words, do you realize how easy it would be to form only emotional arguments to try and play on people's pity or guilt like LTT and HSC do all the time? But all the rest of us who've tried to keep the integrity of this thread intact don't do that. We may not slap on tulle wings and aluminum halos at every opportunity ... but even we are not that low.

Ask yourself, MysticMelody, who is prlonging this crap? Me? For starting a thread that ... wait, what was it again? Wherein HSC will

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stand alone if [he has] to. [He's] not here to help people feel better about killing children.

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See, as I recall, in one of those other threads you referred to, this exchange occurred:

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Randall

And what if you call the miltary murderers? Some Knowflakes are either in the miltary or have family who are.

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Heart--Shaped Cross

Good point, Randall.
That would a "no-no" too.

The majority of the people in the military,
and their loved ones, do not have ill intent.

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That exchange was in response to the things that would be considered insults.

Sorry, MysticMelody. It's not me tossing myself under the bus here. I don't set out to attack people, then pretend I didn't, then apologize, then do it again, then beg for forgivness, then call people names blah blah blah. That's not my cycle.

Just so you know, MysticMelody, I have no ill will towards you ... or anyone truth be told, as I don't just say that I don't hold things personally against people. And, really, I call my mother on a regular basis. And you're right, any of us may not be here tomorrow or the day after. But I don't see this as time wasted. My family lives this kind of thing everyday because every fool out there spewing their "love" hatred is hurting troop morale and the integrity of our forces.

posted May 12, 2008 12:04 AM            

All of you have given at least as well as you have gotten.

I have a right to inject my own perspective into this thread whether you like it or not.

You can see it however you want to, and twist my words and intentions however you please.

But I happen to think that what you are defending is wrong,
and not only wrong, but "involving the deaths of thousands" wrong.

Please try to understand that without immediately assuming the worst about me.
And just because i have openly apologized for many of my mistakes and flaws does not mean I am two-faced. Have you never gone too far? Have you ever apologized for it?

I can be impulsive, and when I am being personally attacked by half a dozen people I tend to develop a temper, and I recognize that about myself. I deleted the joke I made in response to your post because I felt it was in poor taste. I am sorry you had to see that and sorry you had to repost it for others to see. I think, Eleanore, if you would take the time to view just a few of the Winter Soldier testimonies, you might understand where I am coming from a little better. If you cannot hear these things from me, then look into the eyes of these young men and hear what they have to say about what they saw and experienced on the ground, day to day, in country. I aks you to watch these videos. I beg you. I dare you.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum16/HTML/004095.html

HSC

posted May 12, 2008 12:08 AM              

I'm very sorry about the other people in the world who feel that way though.
You might think its fake of me to say, but I do care about people's feelings....believe it or not.

I think some very unkind things have been said about me and HSC.

I do not feel that I have said anything personal against anyone here. It is the war I am opposed to. I have no hatred towards any individuals. Why can't people understand this?

By the way, if it was me you were referring to who "begged for forgiveness", this has been misunderstood. I was sorry for posting on GG's thread, not for expressing my actual opinion, which is just as valid as anyone else's. I was sorry people's feelings were being hurt, but this was something I never wanted to do, believe it or not. Despite the harsher and crueler things being said towards me and HSC. And I was simply trying to make the peace. That was all I was trying to do.

posted May 12, 2008 12:08 AM            

Thank you.

You are a truly beautiful soul.

posted May 12, 2008 12:24 AM              

Just wanted to put that out there.

Still it remains that I can see where Eleanore is coming from here.