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iAmThat
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posted September 24, 2004 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Jesus said (not exact words, I am recollecting):

"Kingdom of God is like when a woman bakes a bread. She puts some yeast here and some yeast there and ultimately the whole dough rises and becomes bread"


Jesus predicted 2000 years ago about spiritual awakening amongst all the people of all the nations. Isn't he amazing.

We are at time when Global Village could become a reality.

I am not sure, how many have become spiritual amongst those nations.

But each and every one of us who are spiritual should set an example for others to follow.

Imagine a beautiful world then and when God could walk with men (Please don't take this sentence literally please. Enough pervertion of Gods words have been made in past by people. They have perverted it enought for their own whim and fancy)

What are your thoughts on these?

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Aselzion
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posted September 24, 2004 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

Contrary to outward appearance, I believe that we all walk with God daily... if only we could recognize that fact, I think your vision would abracadabra into a reality!

We are all aspects of God, a little piece of the Creator right here on Earth... now, I know most of us don't act that way, or treat others that way... but wouldn't it be great if we could?

It is a CHOICE after all...

...so let's choose to acknowledge the God in everybody else... even when they are acting more like the Devil.

I believe that is what the word namaste means (however loosely translated): The God in me acknowledges the God in you.

In Conversations With God God tells us: "I have sent you nothing but Angels!"

Let us now take a moment to REALize (that is to make REAL) that statement and walk in Peace, shall we? Let's do!

Brightest Blessings...
A

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iAmThat
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posted September 24, 2004 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Az,

What I meant was the creator himself will take an avatar and rule the world.

I meant right now our eyes don't see. But soon it will.

I kind of contractict myself with my earlier posts by saying God is with in you.

You are right. The important message here is there will be a global spiritual awakening.

The yeasts he spokes of is the various religious beliefs (hindus, buddhists, islams, etc)


There will be ultimately only one worship of the God. And God will make his presence felt, to each one of people alive on earth when that day comes.

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iAmThat
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posted September 24, 2004 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Az,
I really forgor about the meaning of Namaste. Thanks for reminding it to me.

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posted September 24, 2004 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I     Edit/Delete Message
It was also stated that the "kingdom of god is at hand"...if it's at hand then you can reach it. It must be pretty close, if you can reach it.

PS...Heaven and Hell is now also...that is why it was said that heaven and hell will parish along with earth. Heaven and Hell are states of mind...and they never said that Hell wouldn't be a physical place.

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pixelpixie
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posted September 24, 2004 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
that is why it was said that heaven and hell will parish along with earth.

I don't often post here, but I thought this misspelling was somehow perfect.. (in bold.)

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iAmThat
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posted September 24, 2004 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Please don't take the words literally.
I have edited the original words.
Its only a simile.

I think its dangerous to pass messages to people who really do not comprehend it.

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iAmThat
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posted September 24, 2004 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
To I,

First of all I never spoke of heaven and hell.

Heaven and hell are not state of mind.
Because there really is no heaven and hell.
If you consider being happy is heaven its fine with me.

The universe was created with a big bang.
Already the universe is expanding and there will be a time when it will bloat and collapse. It may even contract to a singleton. A big crunch may happen.

That hour only the God almighty knows and no one knows the hour.

Just like it was destroyed, it will be created again. .... a new earth would be created... a new you may be created (if you are recycled)

Aim not to be recycled. Escape this and be with God. The days are near when you will cry for your loved one because they won't be anymore.

I don't wish to scare you. If you walk in righteousness, you have nothing to fear.
If you are not change yourself. This is the time. Don't be recycled back. A lasting peace awaits you.

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pixelpixie
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posted September 24, 2004 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I most certainly hope those last words weren't directed condescendingly at me.
Remember that the jesters of the court are permitted to listen in on the most spiritual of conversations.. whether one believes he understands or not.... just because he laughs it does not mean there is no wisdom behind his foolish eyes.

The 0 card of the Major Arcana is the Fool, after all.. representing a trusting innocence, much like Jesus Christ himself condones. Much like the bending reed of the Tao.

I shouldn't be looked down upon when I bend in the wind. For I will not snap in my unfailing rigidity. Can you say the same?

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iAmThat
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posted September 24, 2004 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Pixie,

No it wasn't directed at you. I never spoke of heaven or hell. Someone has twisted it in that direction.

I only hate superficialities of the world. They do not pay attention to details.

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iAmThat
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posted September 24, 2004 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Pixie, I was thinking of your statment about Jesus condoning a Jester.
I think he would.

Its an interesting thought that came from your mind..."Jester attending spiritual discussio"...I never thought of that. I heard of them being in Kings court. In fact some of them made very important decision.
I am glad you bought it up. I learnt a thing from it.


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peace_23
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posted September 24, 2004 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace_23     Edit/Delete Message
I dont intent to be against anyone but I always believed that heaven and hell were a state of mind! And never really gave hell a chance (if you will) I mean my beliefs are whatever you believe IS, and if you believe hell then thats what you see.
I'm sorry to keep on this IAMTHAT but I have alot of faith in what I believe.
LOVE & LIGHT

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Gia
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posted September 25, 2004 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
"The Kingdom of God is within in you."

Gia

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iAmThat
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posted September 25, 2004 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Peace 23,

I don't want to speak of heaven or hell.

The kingdom of God is within you. In man Truth and Falsehood exists. When he is full of truth he recognises the falsehood. He realizes that he is truth and he is part of God and he is all.

People are missing the most important point of posts. That is people who has realized truth is enlightening people in their own nations. Just like yeast multiplies in a bread.


The time will come when all humans will realize that there is no heaven and no hell. That each is truth and part of All we call God, it is then God will force his will and manifest himself to be loved by all. All this will happen when we are
perfect.

I can list some truths and being perfect such as:

1. Inviting not the rich and wealthy to your wedding but the hungry, the disabled.

2. Treating all as equal. Treating a black as your brother and not a slave.

etc... etc...

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iAmThat
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posted September 25, 2004 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Now that I am thinking of it.
It may not be so near also.

How far are we from being perfect.

One good thing is people are tired of war.

May be God will use force , if he sees we are far from it and make us suffer. I really don't know. Or may be he will never use force because of our free will. Or may be if we all humans get together and teach people about realizing that each is their own brother and sister. May be, the kingdom would then come.


I can only speculate like any other human


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trillian
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posted September 25, 2004 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Aselzion, as always, you rock.

iAmThat:

quote:
Inviting not the rich and wealthy to your wedding but the hungry, the disabled

That's not really treating all as equals, now is it? Invite both, and that's treating all as equals. Although even by distinguishing between the two, you have not treated them as equals.

As Gia said, The Kingdom of God is within You. And Me. And the Saints. And the Sinners.

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peace_23
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posted September 25, 2004 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace_23     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah I like that trillian,
A great way to SEE it!
Does anyone else get a little depressed when there are ppl around you who are so closed minded and think your crazy for the way you view life? I have to get over that!

LOVE & LIGHT
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Aselzion
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posted September 25, 2004 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

One can only try, Trillian!

Thanks... I have a feeling Linda had a bit to say in that post as well.. as I re-read it, it reminded me of the way that she would have written similar thoughts.

In the Light...

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iAmThat
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posted September 25, 2004 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Namaste
Trillian


No when you invite the rich you are not inviting God. You are inviting thier lower selves which does not have God in it.

The poor and sick are the ones who need your love. The God in them is moved by your act and remembers it.

Tell me how is a rich man and poor man equal before God. I am not talking of typical Rich man who also walks with God everyday, but the ones who has been rich by being dishonest. The ones who trampled on needs of poor. The ones who didn't pay the right wages to his employee.

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iAmThat
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posted September 25, 2004 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Pixel,

There will be a time when the parishes will have a few priests. Your joke was in the right context. I thought the parishes over here, does only the basic services such as those of Baptism and Funeral.

Are you saying these are not required? Are we all that enlightened to not require such services? Is the Kingdom of God here.

I know that a time will come that priests will not be required. Each person himself is the priest of Supreme God.

That time is not now.

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pixelpixie
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posted September 26, 2004 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I do not know what you are asking me, but I will say this....
There are people too concerned with money, at whatever means necessary.....
over-full. Poor people and rich people.
Money is a divider, it is not truly of consequence.
There are even poor people who should humble themselves....

"Do not empty your own bowl to over-fill another's; let both bowls contain enough rice." ~ I Ching

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iAmThat
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posted September 26, 2004 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
From what I hear from everyone here I am inclined to think that if God is everywhere. He is in the anger of a person. He is in the pride of a person. And he is also in the Lust of a person.

So far so good. OK. Isn't it true that if in a man, these things take higher priority than goodness, he will be detroyed. How long will happiness last. Old age, will make you unattractive for your partner. That would make you grieve. The lust you had was temporary. How long happiness would last.
Would you not be glad to know that it could.
How?? well read futher.

The Original source of creation, the supremen God whom we call Our Father-Mother, has to be protected from these vices. God is the very cradle of our existence.

So who is doing the filtering, its the creator(the spirit of Christ, the Savior). He is the Jesus for West, Krishna for Hindus..so and so forth. The last avatar (before a new age begins) of the creator or son of God was clearly Jesus. He was born when the age of Pisces began.

The filter, prevents mankind or any other creation (beasts, trees, earth,.. ) from corrupting the great intellect. He interferes in our very own existence. He raises us up when we fall. He reminds us that there is everlasting peace.


Now that you know, why would you not control your lusts or atleast attempt to.

It may have taken the spirit of Christ several births at different places to be born in flesh and resist temptations. This was to achive perfection. But only as Jesus he was successful and was able to conquer death. He was perfect.

He may have been the Buddha . But even Buddha did marry and had a child at 19. May be later he abstained. But the ether got changed.

And if Jesus in flesh can become perfect, we who are also born in flesh can be perfect.

Know what the power of soul can do, it can bring a dead body to life. The only requirement is to be of purity and love. Filter out the lust part. Jesus would not have been able to conquer death, if he was married or engaged in carnal pleasure.

The following statements I am still wondering if it will happen in a way I am imagining. Well I am on a journey and when I get the answer I will post it here. Till that time you may contribute to it in however way you can.

"Just as the universe is made from the breadh of God and is in existence and before that we were all(including beasts, men,trees,angels,amoeba, etc) one with him. One day the breadh would slow down and stop and inhalation would occur. At that time we all have to be pure and full of love(this is because we do not want to corrupt the source when we merge again with him)."

Then the breadh would go out again, and .....someone would write the same thing as iAmThat...is it going to be me again?

Well these were my beliefs. I have rights to hold on to my beliefs correct

Well...I don't want to be considered heretic by my church hence the secrecy in indentity.


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Gia
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posted September 26, 2004 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
It says in the Bible that you shouldn't hide your light under a bushel. I would be most concerned with staying true to my heart and myself, more than I would a particular church. There are hundreds of Christian denominations and all divided.

Is it family pressure perhaps?

A few years back I went to a retreat. It was a remote mountain Monastery dedicated to Ayios Yanni - Saint John. I spent a good deal of time not speaking, and a great deal of time after my silence, having interesting discussions with the monks mainly on religious and metaphysical subjects.

I learned that even the most dedicated of us question our beliefs at times. Your beliefs should always stand close scrutiny by you. If they are indeed truly solid in your heart.

I really enjoy your posts.

Gia

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iAmThat
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posted September 27, 2004 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Gia,

You are so right and hit right on target. Today I noticed another weakness of the church. Those romans deleted references to reincarnation and I could read between the lines of one of Jesus's parable.

You are right, when time comes , I will not hide. I will tell them how I feel.

But first thing first. I have to do what the master commanded that is undergo cleansing by water.

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juniperb
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posted September 27, 2004 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
How glorious will it be when beliefs evolve into Divine Truths?

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If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot

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