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lotusheartone
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posted September 04, 2005 01:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Pixie
Why Lie?

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ILove
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posted September 04, 2005 01:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message
fayte.m
I just went to "Through The Looking Glass" . Why are you bashing lotusheartone over there? Why is everybody letting this happen? Pixelpixie why are you? If my kids are being rascals, I ask them "does that show love in your heart? people will know the kind of heart you have by your actions. i know you have a great heart, lets show it to the world." I wandered in to this forum not too long ago, and I don't see much love" That is expressly my opinion. I am not trying to preach, it is what I feel like saying, and ya know what? I am allowed.

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pixelpixie
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posted September 04, 2005 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I do not know, lotus.. why do you lie?

I am not bashing... If I am bashing, I do it with my words.. I do not say "This is revealed" as if some sort of prophesy....
I urge you to look.

I am not saying I am truth..
This is only my opinion and I don't care if everyone follows it.
I have maintained this.
I have been involved, and I have been attacked.
I have been told I am clueless, drunk, in another dimension......
when my words are not veiled at all.
I am willing to let it go and not have a personal vendetta.
But I do not want this to go on with no recourse.
I take responsibility for my words.. always have.
Not censored anything, not changed anything....
I stand behind it.
Why do you insist I lie... go back and reread my posts... where have I lied?

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fayte.m
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posted September 04, 2005 01:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message
HUH??????
I hate no one here! Or elsewhere. I feel sorry for some people but I know why they act that way....so can still have compassion(which you said was a form of poison) for people I feel sadness for..I may not want to be around them...like the girl on crack who tried to kill me...but in her lucid moments we talked. I came to understand why she is so messed up. I felt her pain...I understood...I comforted her..when she was not hopped up on crack...or waving a gun at me....I even sat with her AFTER that..and listened to her sorrows. I was afraid...but if my few times helped her...then it was worth it. Magus and I have discussed these things,,,he knows that I help and have compassion ....even for a person I told him about who regularly calls and threatens to kill me. Why? Because I am not a Southern Baptist. No other reason. She calls and tells me she loves me...then two minutes later will call and threaten to harm or kill me if I do not convert immediately to her religion. Then this will be followed up with apologies and love...but a few minutes later she will flip out again and call back to threaten me AND anyone I know! This cycle has been known to go on for up to 22 consecutive phone calls.
I let her rant. She will not talk. She screams. I just do not have anything to do with her. Magus has heard the story as to why this sad person is so fearful and angry.
He knows that I cannot truely hate her....only what she does. And as I know how she got to be this way and so does he...we can both see she deserves our compassion and pity...not our hate. But that does not mean we would let her or someone like the crack girl with the gun close enough to attack us.

Those that know me know I do not hate people.
Even though pixie and I have had our outs....she never insulted me as a person or I her. And now we are joking and talking again.
If I was a hater...I would NOT have come back to LL to post. I would not have taken a chance and reached out to you or others again if I hated. I left because I felt hurt..not hateful...
Even after some others insulted me....I talked to them in e-mail....after I said goodbye....we may not speak to each other at LL much or at all now....but even ones who some may think I am not speaking to...I still am. But it is private and we agree to maintain peace at LL, and we have had very nice conversations off this place.
So you have no right to judge me...you do not know me. I was trying to get to know you...but your e-mails did not jive with your postings....this sent up red flags for me. I knew something was really wrong....but you stopped e-mailing and the nice letters.
Except for the last where you got mad at me for me disagreeing with you here at LL.
I have compassion for you..not hate. But you deem me evil for defending people you insult..for disagreeing with you...and who knows what other reasons you have.
I can argue but I do not believe I have ever told anyone here that I hate them or anyone anywhere!
If anyone felt hate..I truely apologize.
I can be blunt...but I do not intend or ever mean hatred.
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lotusheartone
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posted September 04, 2005 01:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message
you told me, you hated some here, that's why you left, I convinced you to come back, why do you have to lie?

All you do, his talk about yourself and all the good deeds you do, people who really love, don't have to brag about it everyday.
You're insecurities ARE LOUD AND CLEAR, YOU DO THIS OUT OF FEAR.

KNOCK IT OFF, WE'RE NOT IN HIGH SCHOOL ANYMORE, THE WORLD NEEDS US, WE CAN CHANGE THE UPCOMING EVENTS.

WAKE-UP WAKE-UP WAKE-UP

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pixelpixie
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posted September 04, 2005 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
When someone accuses you of lying, it is like a smokescreen to hide their own words.
Where have I lied?

If you'd like to quote me directly from my post to show me, I'd appreciate that.....
Because I do not knnow where these lies could be.
It is diversion from you so you don't have to back up your own words, just point at mine.

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fayte.m
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posted September 04, 2005 01:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message

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lotusheartone
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posted September 04, 2005 01:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Pixie,
You lied about me, you don't know me, but I know you, and I love you, you do many wonderful things, listen to your heart, and never do anything, that doesn't feel right.
Breathe, let the answers come to you, the Masters, Angels, Sainst and Elders, are all here trying to help, ask, and you shall receive, the answers you need.

Love and Light and Understanding

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lotusheartone
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posted September 04, 2005 01:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Fayte,You are the one who never stops attacking, then you change your mode and say I'm helping defend someone.
You were the first to attack and continue the attacks.

Why are you still here???

Go start your own topic, and get off my back.

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pixelpixie
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posted September 04, 2005 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
You lied about me, you don't know me, but I know you

See, it is this sort of blanket statement that gets my back up.
If you knew me, you'd know that.

Why does everyone else lie according to you, when they state opinions, but when you do, it is wise and sage and prophesy?
See?
Doesn't make much sense.
I don't presume to know you.
Allow me the same courtesy.
I only presume to know what I have seen here..
Which is 'holier than thou', disguised as love.
I think I am finished with this thread.

As long as you remember that the only lie is the one where you assume you know things you do not.
Be humble, perhaps that is the missing element here.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 04, 2005 01:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message
You are reading between the lines Pixie, no need to, it's all plan and clear, and when you choose to SEE, you will SEE

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fayte.m
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posted September 04, 2005 01:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I was not bragging!
You accused me of being a hater!
I gave some examples to show how I am not a hater! How else does someone defend such an accusation? I do not brag...about my good deeds...for crying out loud it was just examples.....
And do not flatter yourself ! I was not convinced by you to return to LL!!!!!! Do you really believe you are the only one who e-mails me or that you are the one with such power to make me come back???? Yes...I saw your post...but I was already peeking in from time to time. You did not convince me to stay...others did...not you....
When you came to LL you were sad at the fights going on. I was hurt and sad. I was angry. I hate what happened but not the people.
You twist and twist anything I say....you are very clever.....that to me is a sign of someone who has alot of experience in fighting...
I am not able to play that game well.
Goodbye Lotus...please just leave me alone and everyone else you disagree with and they will leave you alone.
Pixie..are we fools here beating our heads against all this insanity...?
Should we just stop?
Even when she will not?
I am not sure how to proceed from here.
Except to leave again.
Any ideas pixie?
You have been here longer and are a moderator. I will do whatever you suggest.
Leave...or stay out of this no matter what she does.
Pixie???

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pixelpixie
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posted September 04, 2005 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Aw, don't listen to me...
I am opinionated.
I rarely shut up.. But I am willing to now, as it was stated by some wise ones that it is like beating your head against a brick wall.
If there is no more insult flinging to defend, I have nothing to prove.
I have never let anything make me leave herer.. I am tenacious and strong.
I can disagree and live in peace amoung people.. I also do not hate.

Normalcy will creep in... and sometimes chaos.
I love that about life, and this is true to life.
Be adaptable.. but perhaps you can post on another ... like Astrology/Free for all, etc....
No need to leave.. this place is huge and diverse!

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fayte.m
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posted September 04, 2005 02:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Thanks pixie
I get sad too easily....
You are gutsy!!!

I do not know what I will do. I need to just back away...not try to reason anymore. Lotus wants me and the ones she deems stupid evil and hateful and liars..
in her opinion...to leave.... because they will not bow to her and they are made to defend her attacks...over and over. I did not attack.
But some see it that way.
Unless things radically change in the next few days(yes..I will give it time to settle.

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted September 04, 2005 02:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message
lotus- At first when all this started up, I was able to keep my head turned the other way, simply by seeing it as perhaps you werent taking enough time to better phrase what you have to say, then otehrs where maybe misunderstanding you. SO I figured not to get involved, will be over in a day or two, matter of time before everyone drops it...

Just popped back in and read this reply from you-

"""" you told me, you hated some here, that's why you left, I convinced you to come back, why do you have to lie?
All you do, his talk about yourself and all the good deeds you do, people who really love, don't have to brag about it everyday.
You're insecurities ARE LOUD AND CLEAR, YOU DO THIS OUT OF FEAR.

KNOCK IT OFF, WE'RE NOT IN HIGH SCHOOL ANYMORE, THE WORLD NEEDS US, WE CAN CHANGE THE UPCOMING EVENTS.

WAKE-UP WAKE-UP WAKE """"


This paragraph alone is rediculous. And its not the only one posting in here that is going beyond the relams of clear thinking, and good sense. This one especialy has me ticked. ...

Please do what you can to stop this continuous back and forth,,, Im now feeling like I have to bite my tongue.... Lets just say this entire debate, and what has seemed to become a game for you,,, is gona be check mated if I open up my mouth... I dont want to do that, still prefer to be able to have respect, and kindness for and towards you.... Let me read some more nonsense like that paragraph ,, please just dont.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 04, 2005 03:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Well, I left for a while and have been praying and meditating.

I've come to a Conclusion:

no matter what I say, they will attack, so if I don't mind, it won't matter.

You can think I'm crazy, if you want, that is your choice. I started this thread, if you don't like what I write, then just don't come here, and get yourselves upset.

The evil forces are very strong, and we can be used by them, just as we can the Good Forces, like puppets on strings.

You must choose, to SEE and HEAR,
and, YES, people might think you're crazy, but you will KNOW, and feel the LOVE, and you will HEAR these Good Forces.

As I have stated, never do anything, that doesn't feel right.
Ask, and your questions will be answered, in subtle ways at first, but then, well come on......

LET'S PRAY FOR LOVE AND LIGHT AND UNDERSTANDING, FOR ALL......

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AcousticGod
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posted September 04, 2005 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
What feels right for me is to be another person to ask you to leave.

If you could see, you'd see you're not serving a purpose for your 'Masters' here.

"We can never judge the lives of others, because each person knows only their own pain and renunciation. It's one thing to feel that you are on the right path, but it's another to think that yours is the only path." Paulo Coelho

"If you judge people, you have no time to love them." -Mother Teresa of Calcutta

"A heart is not judged by how much you love, but by how much you are loved by others" -Anonymous

"You can't depend on your judgment when your imagination is out of focus" -Mark Twain

"We do not judge the people we love" - Jean-Paul Sartre

"The more one judges, the less one loves." -Honore de Balzac

"When I am able to resist the temptation to judge others, I can see them as teachers of forgiveness in my life, reminding me that I can only have peace of mind when I forgive rather than judge." -Gerald Jampolsky

"Self-interest is the enemy of all true affection." -Franklin D. Roosevelt

"The greatest crimes do not arise from a want of feeling for others but from an over-sensibility for ourselves and an over-indulgence to our own desires" -Edmund Burke

"Fools live to regret their words, wise men to regret their silence" -Will Henry

"Pain makes man think. Thought makes man wise. Wisdom makes life endurable." -John Patrick

"You are only as wise as other's perceive you to be." -Anonymous

"Who is the wisest man? He who neither knows or wishes for anything else than what happens." -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"The weak have remedies, the wise have joys; superior wisdom is superior bliss." -Edward Young

"The wise benefit more from their enemies than fools from their friends" -Proverb

"When an argument flares up, the wise man quenches it with silence" -Anonymous

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell

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lotusheartone
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posted September 05, 2005 11:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I Have taken this time to reflect, and do listen to some, of the very good avice, that was given.
From this point on, I will ignore any negative comments, will not feed that negative energy.
I rembered Jesus getting pretty mad one day, he learned to overcome this,
just as all of us will eventually. Mastering all the 12 signs.

Also, I have never thought myself better than anyone else, We are all equal, we are all brothers and sisters, no one is better, than another one. Mother and Father love us equally, our struggle here is realize we all have an equal part in this, thus I said, I can't do it alone.

My simple message, find a time of day to pray collectively, to reverse the Earth changes, that are coming, to reach this frequency of Love and Light and Healing and Understanding.
I thought we could share the journey, it can be very scary in the beginning, experienceing, something new always will, but you will feel the LOVE...

Once again, I'd like to thank-you, for opening my eyes wider, and I hope we can grow together, and help each other.
Amen-Awomen

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Lialei
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posted September 05, 2005 11:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message
perhaps this is the missing ingrediant in this thread?:

When You Have Faith in Others,
They Will Have Faith in You.

(I only mean to help...I rarely judge others harshly.)

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lotusheartone
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posted September 05, 2005 12:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Lialei,

Yes, how very true.

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ILove
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posted September 05, 2005 12:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message
re-verse and re-mind

thanks everyone...ILove

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Azalaksh
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posted September 05, 2005 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
AG ~

Thanks for posting those great and timely quotes!

'Zala

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lotusheartone
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posted September 05, 2005 03:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I have come here to formerly apologize for my attacks on you, those of you I attacked. I have behaved very badly, and have looked in the mirror, aaaaackkk, it wasn't pretty.
I hope and pray you will forgive me, for acting like a spoiled brat...
I'm human, with faults, and I'm learning, and my eyes are wide open,
I will not behave this way again, rest assured, I will walk humbly beside you, and listen to what you have to say.
No journey is ever easy, and the diffcult path is the one, where we learn the most, I choose this path, and promise to grow everyday, with all the Love, that is here, in our UNI-verse.

Love and Light

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lotusheartone
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posted September 06, 2005 03:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Can't sleep, wonder why?

If I were to talk of immortality, the seven-Satrun-cycle, or plants really perceiving hurt and pain,
Would you label me crazy, insane, in need of help?

I thought we were all here for the same reasons, to grow spiritually, and help each other get there.

I'm really sad, it hurts deep,
But I still have faith, and I believe in all of us, we can help save the human race.

Love and Light

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26taurus
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posted September 06, 2005 04:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Abstractions:
It is always easy to love abstract things. It is simpler to love humanity than human beings, because in loving humanity you are not risking anything. A single human being is far more dangerous than the whole of humanity. Humanity is a word, an abstraction, there is no corresponding reality to it. A human being is reality, and when you come across reality there are going to be good times, bad times, pain, pleasure, ups and downs, highs and lows, agonies and ecstacies. Loving humanity, there will be no ecstasy and no agony. In fact, loving humanity is a way of avoiding human beings. Because you cant love human beings, you start loving humanity just to deceive yourself.
Avoid abstractions.

Acceptance:
Just for 24 hours, try it - total acceptance, whatever happens. If someone insults you, accept it, dont react, and see what happens. Suddenly you will feel an energy flowing in you that you have not felt before. Normally when somebody insults you, you feel weak, you feel distrubed, you start thinking of how to get your revenge. That person has hooked you and now you will go round and round in circles. For days, nights, months, even years, you will not be able to sleep, you will have bad dreams. People can wast a whole life over a small thing, just because someone insulted them.

Just look back into your past and remember a few things. You were a small child and the teacher in the class called you an idiot and you still remember it and feel resentment. Your father said something to you or your mother looked at you in a certain way and ever since then the wound has been there. Your parents have forgotten and even if you remind them they will not be able to remember it. Yet the wound is still open, fresh; if anybody touches it, you will explode. Dont make this wound your soul.

For 24 hours, just 24 hours, try not to react to anything, not to reject anything, whatever happens. If someone pushes you and you fall to the ground, fall!! Then get up and go home. Dont do anything about it. If somebody hits you, bow your head and accept it with gratitude. Go home, dont do anything, just for 24 hours, and you will know an upsurge of energy that you have never known before, a new vitality. And once you know it, once you have tasted it, your life will be different. Then you will laugh at all the foolish things you have been doing, at all the resentments, reactions, revenges with which you have been destroying yourself.

Nobody can destroy you except you; nobody can save you except you. You are the Judas and you are the Jesus.

Osho.

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