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Author Topic:   Picture a Perfect World, Please!
sue g
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posted August 23, 2005 08:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message
One of the hardest lessons I am learning (or trying to learn) is that we cannot force our feelings or views on others. I still struggle with this daily. I have a Taurus moon and mars which equals great stubborness and persistence. With all that Scorpio and Aries rising, I can be a bloody nightmare LOL !!!

A Taurus female friend of mine drove my husband and I away with the very same approach.......push, push, push, until in the end there was no fun in the friendship, so we let her out of our lives. She would persist until everyone around her became uncomfortable.

My sister tells me that in the past my parents were somewhat scared with my "over enthusiasm", it made them feel uncomfortable - I was unaware of being so intense, but in those days I was younger, and now I am in my 40s, and hopefully know better!!

I think it is one of the hardest lessons to know when to hold back, my husband still says this to me and I am making an effort to be gentler in my approach.

As for the fun thing, I feel it is SO important to practise fun as well as spirituality, they balance each other up well...............and love, affection and sex, for me are also very good channels for my intensity...and of course wonderful music.....

Just my opinion, just my feelings, and my experience!!

Love


Sue xx

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sue g
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posted August 23, 2005 08:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hey Fayte

Youre back (I am surprised as you went out with quite a bang girl didnt ya LOL).

Just to say hi and hope you keeping well

Love

Sue xx

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fayte.m
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posted August 23, 2005 09:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message
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lotusheartone
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posted August 23, 2005 02:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message
It scares me so, with everything I've shared, that you all seem not to care, about what we are supposed to be doing.
I guess, I could start to focus on fun, and all the wonderful things there are, But what if we lose it all???
While we're having fun, evil is afoot, in all it's glory, laughing at us. So go on have your fun, but when it's done, what will you have.
All of us, trying to bring Peace on Earth.
I was warned, you would not see, so blatantly, you igonore, my pleas.

Perhaps, today I feel as Linda did, in the end, when still her message was Not heard, and her song was never sung.


Love, Light, Wisdom, and then the Magic!

Love and Light

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fayte.m
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posted August 23, 2005 03:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Squeek!
no one is mad at you...
but you are trying to MAKE...others join in your mission....
you have kind heart...
you mean well...
but you are you...and each of us is unique...
This evil...this bad thing...
explain please.....
you still have not explained...
you mean well...
but something is not right here...
Maybe it is just me...
I am sorry if I upset you...
But I keep hearing fear from you...desperation...and even shades of terror....not an uplifting message...
Humanity for all their problems is not that weak...heartless or stupid as a whole.
Humanity will evolve....the sky is not falling.....just changing.....rainbows and starry nights follow storms.....

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lotusheartone
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posted August 23, 2005 03:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message
The messages and Clues, are all here, and I'm tired.
There is no use in trying, said the Whiterabbit.

That's how I feel.

Love and Light


I can't spell it out, look and see, for yourself...

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fayte.m
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posted August 23, 2005 03:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message

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sue g
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posted August 23, 2005 05:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message
"BUT SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT HERE"

Hey Fayte, I am not sure what it is either, but would be very willing to listen..........if it is gonna happen soon, then I would like to be prepared, is it like the end of our world as we know it?

I was raised as a JW and they used to say the world would end in 1975, luckily even as a kid I didnt believe it! I have an open mind tho and would like to know what I am missing..........and if the end is near...........then I am gonna have more sex and good times LOL !!!

Love and fun to all


Suexxxxx

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fayte.m
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posted August 23, 2005 06:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message

I grew up with hellfire and brimstone and by the time I was 9 years old could recite word for word the book of Revelation. My mother was/is Holy Roller Southern Baptist Rabid Christian...and still periodically rings up to threaten me and curse and damn me. I do not talk to her. She is a very hateful and bigoted intolerant person. She is still hoping and praying for the rapture...and all the evil people...NOTE:that = anyone who is not white..Republican..American..straight..and her religion..or anyone who will not do what or live as she commands by way of Lord God Almighty and Jesus Christ.
Ok...then stepmother...new age...love and light and Aliens coming to save us...along with Jesus!

And people think I am nuts?!?!

BUT...if someone really can show me a valid non freaked out...logical...
reason to be spazing about the end of the world...
I WILL LISTEN!
But no one has yet done anything but variations on the theme of redemption or hell fire and brimstone nightmares....

SO..I WILL LISTEN.....
And with an open mind...but not a flopped open blissed out or fearful one...
SO...
ANYONE>>>>EVERYONE>>>>>
what do you think?!?!?

Gads! What a rant I just did!
Well there it is!


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lotusheartone
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posted August 23, 2005 06:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message
It's Ok now, I don't mind you poking fun at me.

It's not the end of the World, it's the way things will change because of big brother, and power, and greed.
And the fact that things aren't really balanced.
When's the next earthquake, or Volvanic Eruption, or... where's the next terrorist attack.
You see, if w all come together, and work together, we can chacge these event.
As far as for Aliens, if you really think there here to save us your sadly mistaken, your soul cannot be transformed, only the Creator, can do that.
Revelations, they shall come as thieves in the night, and what, your all going willingly, abandoning Mother Earth, Well I remember my promise now, I made an oath, and I intend on keeping it, especially, since they've been trying to make me see for so long, and I refused, But no more. It's my destiny it's your destiny, remember the promise we made with the Creator, Please!

Love and LIght

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sue g
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posted August 24, 2005 03:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hey Lotus

Who is poking fun then - do you mean Fayte and I? Come on girl I really want to understand this thing you are experiencing - cos me being a very sensitiive woman by nature, didnt see you being made fun of?

I would hate to think of anyone struggling here, but at the same time as Fayte says there is something here "thats not right" - most of us dont understand - doesnt that say something?

Love to all


Suexx

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lotusheartone
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posted August 24, 2005 09:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I guess, when it's time, you'll understand, and putting me on the spot, and poking fun, is helping anything.

It's such a simple message, and I can't believe that it's come to this.

Love and Light

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lotusheartone
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posted August 24, 2005 10:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I do not claim to have all the answers, for I do not, I am only trying to send one important message, we are to narrate, now, as one, we are all brothers and sisters, we are all equal, we all need each other, I have repeated the main theme, over and over, yet still, the main message is ignored, and I'm being told by email, that I'm making you feel stupid, Sorry for that is not my intent, and am trying...

Gooberz Page 989

all you need know at present
is that the translation called Ascension
is accomplished through LOVE and LIGHT as ONE

Does that help make things clearer, I believe I've been pretty clear. And when you think about it, it's pretty funny, with all of it right there.

Love and Light

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lotusheartone
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posted August 24, 2005 10:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message
And as I've said, "I can't do it alone", we must unite, with a common goal, of Love and Light. And make this world a better place, if not for ourselves, then at least for our children.

Children are truely magical, and I've learned through all of this, is that, they are my greatest Teachers. Thank-you, for enlightening me, I hope I can do the same for you One Fine Day.

Love and Light

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Saturn's Child
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posted August 24, 2005 11:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message
lotus, goodness gracious girl, get a grip!
People have told you again and again that they are doing what they can to make the world a better place. They've told that they invision a better world, peace, love kindness, etc. And still you act as if you and you alone are in this one woman battle to right the wrongs out there. It's getting tiresome quite frankly. And, why do you think you are the only one who cares and the only who gets the message? Each one of us hears our own drummer. Each one of us does what we can.
If the world as we know it comes to an end today, for whatever reason, some part of us will go on. I for one will not spend my life yelling "The end is near!" I've too much else to do. I've a life to live, family, friends, music, books, movies, nature to enjoy, and so much more! There are millions of us praying and invisioning peace on earth, prosperity for earth and it's inhabitants, good for all. But to do so in desperation negates the effort. To do so in quiet calm faith in our creator promotes the effort.
I find so much joy in the living on this beautiful earth even with all it's disparities, I refuse to sit around with my head stuck in a place of doom and gloom.
We are supposed to be happy and that is what I choose!
If you insist on marching around spouting that you know hidden secrets that rest rest of us are ignoring (a bit pompus if you ask me)and proclaiming the end, then go ahead, but don't look for a line to form behind you, I think you will be disappointed.

There have been natural disasters since the beginning of time and there will continue to be. People have died and will continue to do so. There are good people and bad people. Good events and bad events. What is important is that the spirit goes on and on and on, ever changing and evolving.....and it will, whether there is an earth as we know it, or not. And that is the message that I hear...loud and clear. And I am not afraid.
I wish for Lotus peace and contentment and of course, love...

Hey, Fayte! Good to see you and hear you!!
Sue!! Keep on havin' FUN girl!!!

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sue g
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posted August 24, 2005 11:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi Saturn

And thanks for your support on this - it means a lot and yeah girl I am having lots of fun these days. It has been a great summer - lots of socialising, music, craic etc, in true Irish style.

I feel some sort of renewal, despite the day to day problems, I feel clarity and joy, almost like an excitement - my love and social life are the best theyve been for a long time!!!!

How are you then - are you enjoying life? I always feel very comforted when I read your posts, like you are really grounded or something, must be the capricorn in you hey?

Lots of love and fun


Sue xxx

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fayte.m
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posted August 24, 2005 12:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Saturn's Child!
Thank you for your reply. You hit the nail on the head so to speak!

Lotus...you confuse us...
In MANY replies to many of us..not just me...
You have praised us and thanked us for our wisdom..for making you laugh...for helping you..and more.
But just when many of us have a bead on you..or so we thought...you do an about face and become hurt..angry..vengeful/rude(that sue fayte forum..not very love and light..)
Or act like we are all selfish moronic hedonistic know and do nothings!
I will even here mention another knowflake...Pixie. She and I have had go arounds with each other....but I can still see she is doing her part to improve herself...help others...and make the world a better place.
To each their own..in their own way and time.
You cannot transplant or inject into anyone your experiences...your personal passion..just because it feels right for you.
Look inside....Those messages I suspect are for you......
Look again...are you so sure you interpreted them right?
As I said before...that movie.."The Messinger"....and the bits with Dustin Hoffman....may give you another way of looking at things.
You were not Joan...but as she is depicted in the movie...I see much of her character in you.
She ruined her own life and the joys of family and love and a long life.....
Because she followed the voices and the visions and the signs...
But she did not see past her own fervor and desires and hopes etcetera...to see what really was happening to her and her world.
I am not saying you are even like her that way....but please consider seeing it....and
think about exactly what you got..when..from what/who...and ask yourself again..what is the message...
IT NEVER HURTS TO DOUBLE CHECK!
Well...it may hurt emotionally....but that helps us see clearer.

Again..I would not talk to you if I felt you were a nutcase or evil.
I would ignore you.
No one was teasing you!
TEll us where we teased you please.

Again..your turn....

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lotusheartone
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posted August 24, 2005 02:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I'm Sorry, I'm Sorry, I'm Sorry

Gooberz page 332 and 333

" a time when one may be twice born or more"

a time to ask Saturn the score?

"..a time reorganization of the ego..for by the time this aspect has passed.."

a new person--new?

"..you will have to abandoned old ideas and perhaps struggled hard against the abandonment"

of course! and why not?
who wants to lose humself--herself?

"..for it is here..."

at the seven year Saturn cycle?

"that Free Will operates..as free and untrammeled by circumstances
or outside environmental influences
as it will ever be"

so the will is free--to choose what?

"..a new mastery over Life is yours
for the taking
when Saturn thus aspects his birth position"

a new mastery over Life? I'm all for that!
but how can I be Brown Owl of myself
if stuffy Saturn is still boss over me..?

" the choice made now will forge your fate
for a long time to come
change your basic thinking
and revise your aims and purposes.."

well, yes, I suppose if I did all that
I would be a new person.. ...no doubt
if I chose it myself, that is
without being pushed or forced by Saturn

"..you will stand free
at this periodic Saturn cycle
of many..erstwhile restrictions"

and who releases me from jail?
Brown Owl Saturn? does he hold the key
to my 'erstwhile restristions'?

"..you will be given a chance to shift
but if you refused to be twice-born..."

refused ? ah ! so old man Saturn
is not Brown Owl after all !
if I have the right to accept or refuse
being 'twicw born,' then I am Brown Owl
over the holy trinity
of the three-times-three
of the me-of-me
but, should I refuse..then what?

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Saturn's Child
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posted August 24, 2005 10:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Oh, Sue, I am fine. Having a wonderful summer, swimming in beautiful waters, basking in the sun that heals me so.
Yes i think my cappy rising has helped to ground me all my life...not to mention those "wonderous" saturn lessons that I've been presented with and hopefully learned!
I'm happy that you are doing well, and things are better with hubby, yes? I always enjoy your wisdom and sense of fun..it appeals to my Gem Sun while your obvious love of humanity strikes a chord with my Aqua moon.....

Lotus, I have to ask, in light of your last post and reference to Saturn, etc. Are you experiencing your Saturn return?

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lotusheartone
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posted August 24, 2005 10:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Honestly, I am trying, as hard as I can to figure this all out, and I couldn't possibly explain here, what I am experiencing, and going through. I have refused for so long, that it is difficult to overcome all that is being presented so quickly,
I'm spinning...

You can certainly email me, if you want to know more, lotusheartone@axion.ca

I have nothing to hide.

Love and Light

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lotusheartone
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posted August 25, 2005 12:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Ok, before I go to bed, cuz, I'm a sleepy head.
I'd like to say, that there is nothing hidden, it's plan and simple, like a cute dimple*
I'm not trying to form a cult, or some kind of religious sect, I'm just trying, to say, that all together, at the same time, is very powerful magic, indeed, can you imagine what a Rainbow we'd see, of Love and Light, and Understanding.

We can make a differnce, BELIEVE...

Love and Light

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lotusheartone
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posted August 25, 2005 09:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message
"Collective Consciousness"

I am presenting this idea now, because let's face it, it could take over a year, or more, for us to be ready, to all work together.
I'm not expecting you to just believe.
Search your heart, ask God, read Linda's books over again. Ask me any questions.
This idea, is something anyone can start at home with family and friends, on your own, the more people praying at the same time, means more magic.
Once Again, my apologies, if I have offended anyone.
And honestly, if you feel, there's something wrong, and you would like me to exit Lindaland, please feel free to say so. I don't want to be, where I'm not wanted.

Love and Light

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DayDreamer
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posted August 25, 2005 09:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi lotus, I can tell you only have the best of intentions along with a big heart.

I think for most people to wake up they need to be going through something major in their lives...like some sort of catastrophe. Sad to say, but people usually only pray when times are bad, when they want something and are desperate. Otherwise when times are good in your own small circle of life, you forget about what's happening around you, what's happening to the earth, the bigger picture, the universe?

Maybe people are not convinced by the power of prayer? Why bother praying if you can't see immediate results? Maybe people feel the destruction of this planet is inevitable, so why bother with prayer all together? Will prayer actually do anything? Will they be answered, or is there a set plan that must go through?

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lotusheartone
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posted August 25, 2005 10:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message
DayDreamer,
My heart leaped with joy, to read your words. You must be a earth sign, we're not prone to fantasy, but hear we are.
I believe, and what I've perceived, is the first step, is to all pray and meditate( don't worry how you do it, you will be guided, focus on Love and Light and Understanding) at the same time, would surely make miracles.
After that, it's all about the notes I believe, our individual key, but this won't be, for a very long time.
For now, it's simple, and it will probably take a long time for people to take 15 minutes out of their day, but how ever few the number, it is still, more powerful than 1.

Love and Light and Understanding

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angel_of_hope
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posted August 26, 2005 02:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Nice clarification Lotus!! You are a beautiful soul!!

What time do you usually say your prayers? And what time zone are you in, so i may adjust my time and pray with you? That, i also believe would be more powerful than 1 - cause we'd at least have 2 (that we know of) praying for the same thing at the same time. Love nad Light to you Lotus!!


Angela

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